Dominic I really appreciated your story and genuine tone throughout this interview. Although I’ve never been a regular traditionalist, so much of your story rang true with my own upbringing. I have about a thousand things I would love to discuss with you but will simply leave you with a thank you.
its great to meet you friend, and I welcome your notes and questions any time. :) You can visit my site at dominicdesouza.com and send me a message, and we can schedule a videochat to connect. I'd enjoy that. :)
Dominic, thanks for sharing your story. Having spent years mentally maintaining a very traditionalist viewpoint, many of the comments sounded familiar to me. You touched on the beauty of the message of Fatima and it brought to mind Card. Ratzinger's Theological Commentary on the Third Secret. What to me is the center piece of that document and words worth reflecting on far more than they have been in the last 24 years. "In biblical language, the «heart» indicates the centre of human life, the point where reason, will, temperament and sensitivity converge, where the person finds his unity and his interior orientation. According to Matthew 5:8, the «immaculate heart» is a heart which, with God's grace, has come to perfect interior unity and therefore «sees God». To be «devoted» to the Immaculate Heart of Mary means therefore to embrace this attitude of heart, which makes the fiat - «your will be done» - the defining centre of one's whole life." Fiat Domini.
44:13 I don't disagree, but I begin to wonder why infernalism has been the focus of our religion for so many centuries for so many people. I begin to wonder if my beliefs are really Catholic. I can't help but wonder if I should stick around.
these are real questions, friend. Paul and myself have asked ourselves a lot of these questions through our podcast Pope Francis Generation, on this channel. maybe one of the episodes will be helpful.
it seems to me that that is something that is a small "t" tradition, not part of the deposit of faith but part of some people's experience and focus; I think it is quite telling that all of the most popular devotions relate to God's mercy and desire to heal us
@@josephclark1431 Yeah, we've all heard that "fact" about a million times by now. I've never seen any evidence of that at all. People who research it say things like "What I discovered was there are 1900 plus verses in the four Gospels that contain Jesus’ words. Surprisingly, only about 60 of those verses, or just three percent of them, might be construed as either directly or indirectly referring to Hell. On the other hand, there are more than three times as many verses in the Gospels in which Jesus references Heaven, eternal life, or his coming kingdom: 192 verses in all, or almost 10%." Please stop repeating this "fact". Thanks.
@EremiasRanwolf-d6z I guess it depends on how you count every allusion and shorthand He uttered. It's indisputable that Jesus regarded hell as real and tragic possibility for many
The more i listen to this interview, the more im convinced that this guy's problem was not Catholicsim, noe even "traditional Catholicism", but rather his family life ans his parents!
@@clelia8885 Do you? Or do you know very well when certain teachers and a select few priests taught you what the position was??? That type of argument sounds exactly like non practicimg Catholics who claim authority merely bc "I was in Catholic school." Living in the society I have found as many interpretations of their "position" as I have found people. Ya know.... Kindof like how Catholics are in the wider Church! Everyone has their own understanding of what the teaching is.
No, I know their position. Watch their crisis series- I was taught that and tested on it. Everyone I know, priests, religious, etc in the SSPX believes all the same thing.
You walk away from this wondering if these guys actually believe whether the teachings of the Catholic Church are OBJECTIVELY true and actually equate to reality. Is CONFESSION actually the objective and ordinary means to have mortal sin healed or is that just my subjective experience of how I relate to God which is equally as valid as other religions or expressions etc. This only leads to agnosticism.
So what are people who leave going to replace it with; if they completely leave it.? A Muslim perspective; eliminative materialism (only matter exists); or trans humanism; (humans embedded with technology. The Church is a human institution and as such is not perfect. St.Francis got the message ‘build up my Church, and he did just that. Stay and work for necessary improvements and reform. Leave it for what; there is not much out there; unless you want to join the latest atheistic ideology and there is always a new one in the pipeline.
The hunt for truth will never fail anyone, because Truth is a person, and he seeks us with infinite effort. Thats why I don't think we need fear any journey or side quest that compel us, or those around us. The real issue is where are we personally in Christ, on the daily.
@@willchristie2650 It is not just leaving the Church it is leaving religion altogether that is what I also meant. Material science does not have all the answers either. It can investigate the laws of nature, discover electricity or electricities; electromagnetism and at some future date understand magnetism, but it cannot change the laws of nature which are dual; every boon comes with a bane. It is true of nuclear energy and of all else. There is birth, life, and death and even though the lifespan may be extended with reasonably good health, and painkillers help, life ends eventually. It is natural for people to long for permanence. The idea of reincarnation gives some of that although starting over and going through the whole thing again in different cultures, and in different circumstances, is not something to look forward to. However it is we can make the best of it that we can, and that is about it. What people choose it their right, and righty or wrongly they reap the rewards and benefits; or the reverse, as that is how the cookie crumbles.
@@willchristie2650 My reply doesn’t appear to show up so I will try again. Whatever people will find it may be good or bad it depends on their common sense and what they are looking for. They may find it in psychedelics but that may have implications for the brain down the road. The definition of religion is that to which we are bound so people will look for some substitute.
@@willchristie2650 I would like this to appear next to what it is responding to. Leaving the Church may be a solution and many are doing it. I have respect for the Church, it kept the Dark Occult out of the mainstream on the ascent from the Dark Age to the Age of Reason. It will likely also play a role in the modern world of keeping the worst excesses of atheism at bey as it did when it defeated communism. There is trans humanism in the pipeline (humans embedded with technology). Atheists are always coming up with some dangerous ideology or other. The Church is aware of this and is not going to allow it to happen. We have to acknowledge that it took in a lot of pedophile oriented clergy back in time. Whether there was awareness; promoted from within or unawareness; being caught off guard, is something that has yet to be determined. The world also has a pedophilia problem; it may even be organized; not random. The ideologies that atheism comes up with are concerning and as a world wide institution the Church is well placed to be a bulwark against them. I do not see anyone else taking them on.
I don’t get why is there a review website of decent films especially if it gave an actual good film a negative review I always like a good enjoyable popcorn film that would at best have a 6 something on IMDb films like battleship, 2012, volcano, con air and White House down come to mind
Dominic I really appreciated your story and genuine tone throughout this interview. Although I’ve never been a regular traditionalist, so much of your story rang true with my own upbringing. I have about a thousand things I would love to discuss with you but will simply leave you with a thank you.
its great to meet you friend, and I welcome your notes and questions any time. :) You can visit my site at dominicdesouza.com and send me a message, and we can schedule a videochat to connect. I'd enjoy that. :)
Beautiful interview! Thank you for sharing.
very glad it connected with you!
I know, right?! They even kept their voice level and inflection like the the converts had on "The Journey Home" circa 1998!
Thank you for sharing your story. I enjoyed listening to this.
Glad it connected with you, friend!
Dominic, thanks for sharing your story. Having spent years mentally maintaining a very traditionalist viewpoint, many of the comments sounded familiar to me. You touched on the beauty of the message of Fatima and it brought to mind Card. Ratzinger's Theological Commentary on the Third Secret. What to me is the center piece of that document and words worth reflecting on far more than they have been in the last 24 years.
"In biblical language, the «heart» indicates the centre of human life, the point where reason, will, temperament and sensitivity converge, where the person finds his unity and his interior orientation. According to Matthew 5:8, the «immaculate heart» is a heart which, with God's grace, has come to perfect interior unity and therefore «sees God». To be «devoted» to the Immaculate Heart of Mary means therefore to embrace this attitude of heart, which makes the fiat - «your will be done» - the defining centre of one's whole life."
Fiat Domini.
very glad you stopped by and chimed in :) thank you!
Well put and greatly relatable.
I'm glad it connected with you!
Welcome back to the Church!
44:13 I don't disagree, but I begin to wonder why infernalism has been the focus of our religion for so many centuries for so many people. I begin to wonder if my beliefs are really Catholic. I can't help but wonder if I should stick around.
these are real questions, friend. Paul and myself have asked ourselves a lot of these questions through our podcast Pope Francis Generation, on this channel. maybe one of the episodes will be helpful.
it seems to me that that is something that is a small "t" tradition, not part of the deposit of faith but part of some people's experience and focus; I think it is quite telling that all of the most popular devotions relate to God's mercy and desire to heal us
Jesus talked more about hell the heaven. By sheer word count. Fun fact
@@josephclark1431 Yeah, we've all heard that "fact" about a million times by now. I've never seen any evidence of that at all. People who research it say things like "What I discovered was there are 1900 plus verses in the four Gospels that contain Jesus’ words. Surprisingly, only about 60 of those verses, or just three percent of them, might be construed as either directly or indirectly referring to Hell.
On the other hand, there are more than three times as many verses in the Gospels in which Jesus references Heaven, eternal life, or his coming kingdom: 192 verses in all, or almost 10%."
Please stop repeating this "fact". Thanks.
@EremiasRanwolf-d6z I guess it depends on how you count every allusion and shorthand He uttered. It's indisputable that Jesus regarded hell as real and tragic possibility for many
The more i listen to this interview, the more im convinced that this guy's problem was not Catholicsim, noe even "traditional Catholicism", but rather his family life ans his parents!
The issue is the rejection of VII and the “post conciliar church” and magisterium.
@@clelia8885 to use a term from Lofton, the Society's position on that is actually quite "nuanced".
I know the SSPX position very well- I was raised in it and went to their school.
@@clelia8885 Do you? Or do you know very well when certain teachers and a select few priests taught you what the position was??? That type of argument sounds exactly like non practicimg Catholics who claim authority merely bc "I was in Catholic school."
Living in the society I have found as many interpretations of their "position" as I have found people. Ya know.... Kindof like how Catholics are in the wider Church! Everyone has their own understanding of what the teaching is.
No, I know their position. Watch their crisis series- I was taught that and tested on it. Everyone I know, priests, religious, etc in the SSPX believes all the same thing.
You walk away from this wondering if these guys actually believe whether the teachings of the Catholic Church are OBJECTIVELY true and actually equate to reality. Is CONFESSION actually the objective and ordinary means to have mortal sin healed or is that just my subjective experience of how I relate to God which is equally as valid as other religions or expressions etc. This only leads to agnosticism.
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Right off the bat this guy makes a false claim: E.g. "... the SSPX claim that theres no pope..." Well, thats blatantly false.
You would be surprised how many SSPX people I know who are actually sedevacantist.
So what are people who leave going to replace it with; if they completely leave it.? A Muslim perspective; eliminative materialism (only matter exists); or trans humanism; (humans embedded with technology.
The Church is a human institution and as such is not perfect. St.Francis got the message ‘build up my Church, and he did just that. Stay and work for necessary improvements and reform. Leave it for what; there is not much out there; unless you want to join the latest atheistic ideology and there is always a new one in the pipeline.
The hunt for truth will never fail anyone, because Truth is a person, and he seeks us with infinite effort. Thats why I don't think we need fear any journey or side quest that compel us, or those around us. The real issue is where are we personally in Christ, on the daily.
@@willchristie2650 It is not just leaving the Church it is leaving religion altogether that is what I also meant. Material science does not have all the answers either. It can investigate the laws of nature, discover electricity or electricities; electromagnetism and at some future date understand magnetism, but it cannot change the laws of nature which are dual; every boon comes with a bane.
It is true of nuclear energy and of all else. There is birth, life, and death and even though the lifespan may be extended with reasonably good health, and painkillers help, life ends eventually. It is natural for people to long for permanence. The idea of reincarnation gives some of that although starting over and going through the whole thing again in different cultures, and in different circumstances, is not something to look forward to. However it is we can make the best of it that we can, and that is about it. What people choose it their right, and righty or wrongly they reap the rewards and benefits; or the reverse, as that is how the cookie crumbles.
@@willchristie2650 My reply doesn’t appear to show up so I will try again. Whatever people will find it may be good or bad it depends on their common sense and what they are looking for. They may find it in psychedelics but that may have implications for the brain down the road. The definition of religion is that to which we are bound so people will look for some substitute.
@@willchristie2650 I would like this to appear next to what it is responding to.
Leaving the Church may be a solution and many are doing it. I have respect for the Church, it kept the Dark Occult out of the mainstream on the ascent from the Dark Age to the Age of Reason. It will likely also play a role in the modern world of keeping the worst excesses of atheism at bey as it did when it defeated communism. There is trans humanism in the pipeline (humans embedded with technology). Atheists are always coming up with some dangerous ideology or other. The Church is aware of this and is not going to allow it to happen.
We have to acknowledge that it took in a lot of pedophile oriented clergy back in time. Whether there was awareness; promoted from within or unawareness; being caught off guard, is something that has yet to be determined. The world also has a pedophilia problem; it may even be organized; not random.
The ideologies that atheism comes up with are concerning and as a world wide institution the Church is well placed to be a bulwark against them. I do not see anyone else taking them on.
I don’t get why is there a review website of decent films especially if it gave an actual good film a negative review I always like a good enjoyable popcorn film that would at best have a 6 something on IMDb films like battleship, 2012, volcano, con air and White House down come to mind