Adequately demonstrating why I think the Model 1895/.405 is the best lever rifle/cartridge ever. Though the Model 71/.348 is my favorite. I have an original of both and a Miroku made repro of both. Mine were made in the 1990s (model 71) and 2002 (Model 1895). When they both were drilled and tapped for receiver sights and no unnecessary crossbolt safety. I like the case coloring on your 1895. That was not available when I bought mine.
The 4 leverguns that is still in my list of wants. Winchester Model 88 in 358, savage 99 in 250-3000, Winchester 1895 in 30-06, and a Winchester 94 big bore in .356 win
@@Leverguns50 its magical. Im 32 my first guns gonna be either a .357 marlin or a 45-70 marlin (45-90 maybe??) Havent figured it out quite yet. I do wanna deer hunt with it and have meat left on the deer lol
I would have really liked to have gotten an 1895 405 like yours with the color case hardened receiver, but when I was looking for one, the only one I could find at the time was the Teddy Roosevelt commemorative model, the one with the silver receiver. I was looking for a "using" model but the price was right and Teddy would have approved. The rifle does have pretty wood and all the engraving is nice too. Best of all, the rifle shoots well and took a real nice 13 inch antelope buck. I would like to get a deer with it now. I was tempted to take it on a moose hunt but my tag was a "once in a lifetime" affair and I decided something with a bit more reach would be better. My favorite 30-06 served nicely. I would still love to take the 405 on an elk, moose, or bear hunt, but with my advancing age and deteriorating health, a deer would be more likely.
😁 watching a gel block flip flops and flying 👍. I made a comment to a guy that said he liked the way the gel block giggles and I told him to check you out .
It absolutely TOSSED it. Like armor or no.. do you even live through the energy exchange? Does it knock you out if you actually do live? Entire torso = deeply bruised. Lol damnnnn
Iv always wanted a .405 Win 1895 Win rifle. I know there are bigger badder guns, small cuter tamer , but the .405 has always been like that gun that just really hit my fancy. 1895 in 7.62x54R as well. I have yet to find a 1895 Win in the calibers I want in my budget range though. I figure it isn't going to get any better with the current political environment.
Really liked the video, would be even better if the blocks had been at 100 yds, or 150 yds. I think it would show something more pertinent to a hunting scenario.
Good morning Leverguns happy 4th of July. I have never had the pleasure of shooting the ballistic gel. Would you happen to know what one of the blocks of gel weighs? If memory serves me right, the 1895 was Teddy Roosevelts favorite rifle, for Africa, and large and dangerous game. Thanks, Tiefastman
They weigh A little more than 17 pounds, I would definitely say it was one of his favorite caliber rifle combo, I know one of his favorite was also the 1876 in 45-75 WCF
That 1895 is one beautiful looking rifle - appreciate you taking the trouble to run these tests - we all learn a lot from your penetration testing. I wonder how hard cast projectiles would hold up in that ballistic gel fired from some of your collection. Thanks again.
Wow, that 405 is really moving. I would like to see how your brothers uberti 50-95 with the 300 barnes would do with the gel !!! Awesome videos. Thanks
Another outstanding comparison with impressive performance by both calibers. They performed just as you predicted with the longer .405 with great sectional density really penetrating deeply. I also agree that the 45-90 should have a heavier bullet because that also gives it greater sectional density. Thank you again for the great comparisons because they are very beneficial and very educational. Outstanding!
@@Leverguns50 I always enjoy your thoughtful demonstrations. Have yet to meet anyone that knows this much about heavy hitting rounds from Leverguns as yourself. I also really appreciate the way you ask God to bless us...Sometimes the only Bible the others read that’s what they see us do or say. You do a great job of both sharing your knowledge with these firearms and ammunition, But you let your light shine! God bless you too!
I would be disinclined to be the shaking block of jelly at the receiving end of either but am happy I have the 405 1895 as it appears to be a bit more traumatic. TR's lion medicine. In optimization of both calibers I am going to go with John Browning's assessment that the spire type bullet will give appreciably better performance.
I'd love to see you get together with Scott AKA: Kentucky Ballistics and make a joint video. He's a big bore enthusiast just as you are. I'd love to see how your 45-90 and 50-110 stack up against his 458 Lott and 500NE.
As usual you produced an excellent lever gun video featuring big bores. As you know by now I love me some Big Bore Lever Guns for hunting purposes. Maybe I missed it, but if you ever run up on an original or reproduction Winchester in .40-60 (thanks a lot Tom Selleck), I would really like to know your opinion of the round. I'm considering having a gunsmith conversion to .40-60 done to one of my real Marlins but I'm just a bit reluctant to go that route since the .444 Marlin factory chambering works so well for me on hogs and deer. out to about 250 yards or so. Keep up the great Big Bore lever action videos/work! You are the best in my opinion!
Hello again, I love these two weapons as well as these two calibers and have watched this wonderful comparison numerous times as well as left laudatory comments. A thought came to me as I was watching the outstanding penetration of the .405; have you ever compared the 40-82 Winchester using full loads of smokeless powders in a strong action to the .405? Just curious. Thanks in advance for your kind reply and God Bless!
Simply amazing how much energy is delivered at the target! Always loved the 405, and 45/90 thx for sharing, I would love to see how the big 405 does at a higher velocity with the TSX bullets?
I was watching the 55 gallon drum in the slo-mo. They both rocked it pretty good, all your stuff was bouncing around. I really like both of those rifles but that 45-90 is an awesome round.
I personally based on your test would use the .405 on Boar and Buffalo. The .45-90 on Elk and Bear. Faster energy transfer on light skinned game and deeper penetration on heavier muscled game.
I wish you'd get off all the solids and jacketed bullets and go back through your lever collection using casts only. Everyone would want to cast for you if you didn't have all the moulds you wanted to try. Don't take me wrong, I just have a special interest in the old'skool casts.
why not ratchet strap the gel down to the beam? i had a 1895 take down made in 1923 in 30 army (30-40 krag) and being the genius i am after about 20 years owning it i traded it off,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I liked watching the kinetic energy dance its dance. Shows you the raw power of the rifle/round combo. If tht was the belly of a beast (strapped down and not able to translate the energy into flying) im sure it would rip and tear more though.
The 45-90 was originally a black powder load with lead bullet making velocities and energy way different than the handloads your using comparing it to the 405 which that was a smokeless loading. Can you put it through the real test??
The original factory Load was a 300 grain bullet doing 1530 FPS it come with soft lead it penetrated 13 boards a jacket soft point which penetrated 15 boards or a full metal jacket which penetrated 19, the 405 was a 300 grain bullet at 2200 FPS it had a soft point that penetrated 13 boards or a full metal jacket at penetrated 48 boards. according to original Winchester advertisement.
A new Model 1886 it’s rated for 50,000 psi in 45-70 The 92 Winchester in 454 is rated for 65000 psi which is a scale down model of the 1886 The bighorn armory model 89 is a slightly scale down model of the 86 or upscaled model of the 92 and it’s also a 65,000 psi gun, and that is the science behind what I’m doing here, making sure I’m well within the same pressure range
Normally a 405 which is a 300 grain bullet about 2300 FPS with modern powders that can be pushed a little bit faster about 3400 fps, The 45-90 with modern guns and modern powder can be pushed to 2600 FPS with a 300 grain Bullet
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Love these older cartridges. Modern propellants and projectiles breathing new life into them.
Adequately demonstrating why I think the Model 1895/.405 is the best lever rifle/cartridge ever.
Though the Model 71/.348 is my favorite. I have an original of both and a Miroku made repro of both. Mine were made in the 1990s (model 71) and 2002 (Model 1895). When they both were drilled and tapped for receiver sights and no unnecessary crossbolt safety.
I like the case coloring on your 1895. That was not available when I bought mine.
The 4 leverguns that is still in my list of wants. Winchester Model 88 in 358, savage 99 in 250-3000, Winchester 1895 in 30-06, and a Winchester 94 big bore in .356 win
Those old calibers always throw that Ballistics Gel around, it never gets old.
They really do, I'm surprised
@@Leverguns50 its magical. Im 32 my first guns gonna be either a .357 marlin or a 45-70 marlin (45-90 maybe??) Havent figured it out quite yet. I do wanna deer hunt with it and have meat left on the deer lol
This is one of the better channels on the whole of youtube.
Thank you so much 👍🇺🇸
I would have really liked to have gotten an 1895 405 like yours with the color case hardened receiver, but when I was looking for one, the only one I could find at the time was the Teddy Roosevelt commemorative model, the one with the silver receiver. I was looking for a "using" model but the price was right and Teddy would have approved. The rifle does have pretty wood and all the engraving is nice too. Best of all, the rifle shoots well and took a real nice 13 inch antelope buck. I would like to get a deer with it now. I was tempted to take it on a moose hunt but my tag was a "once in a lifetime" affair and I decided something with a bit more reach would be better. My favorite 30-06 served nicely. I would still love to take the 405 on an elk, moose, or bear hunt, but with my advancing age and deteriorating health, a deer would be more likely.
😁 watching a gel block flip flops and flying 👍. I made a comment to a guy that said he liked the way the gel block giggles and I told him to check you out .
Thank you so much, I hope he liked it
Both are beautiful guns now no doubt about that brother be safe and GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏
That’s something how that little explosion happens in the gel like that
This guy has some of the most beautiful rifles in odd calibers. Some of which I had never heard of but still extremely powerful
Thank you
Oooooh The .405 Winchester 😀👍🏼 My Second Favorite Levergun 😀
Roosevelts “lion medicine “. Love it!
Yea you are right 👍
great vidio sir and the round ball in the other vidio was great too thank you for sharing those beautiful guns and the action shots
You’re welcome
Cool to see the 1895 back.
Both are heavy hitters for sure. The 405 is a penetrator with its higher sectional density bullet. Guess that’s why TR liked it so good 👍🏻
Great and insightful test! Two wonderful old cartridges in two really great rifles!
I have never seen gel get hit that hard. Damn was 🤩
It absolutely TOSSED it. Like armor or no.. do you even live through the energy exchange? Does it knock you out if you actually do live? Entire torso = deeply bruised. Lol damnnnn
@@jesseredfield8194 rightooo
Iv always wanted a .405 Win 1895 Win rifle. I know there are bigger badder guns, small cuter tamer , but the .405 has always been like that gun that just really hit my fancy. 1895 in 7.62x54R as well. I have yet to find a 1895 Win in the calibers I want in my budget range though. I figure it isn't going to get any better with the current political environment.
I want em all Joanie 🤩🤩🤩
Im in love with marlin 1895 square tops 🤔
@@Bucky1836 Marlins are nice too. I just have a thing for the Win 95
Excellent video!
Jeremy you are making my gun list grow 🤑🤑🤑🤑
Well you needed a bigger collection anyhow 😂
@@Leverguns50 🤣🤣🤣
Actual facts. 😭💰🪦
Holy cow those are hard hitters
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Really liked the video, would be even better if the blocks had been at 100 yds, or 150 yds. I think it would show something more pertinent to a hunting scenario.
Be interesting to see the 444 marlin compared aswell, not quite the sectional density or power of 405 win but pretty dang close
Good morning Leverguns happy 4th of July. I have never had the pleasure of shooting the ballistic gel. Would you happen to know what one of the blocks of gel weighs? If memory serves me right, the 1895 was Teddy Roosevelts favorite rifle, for Africa, and large and dangerous game. Thanks, Tiefastman
They weigh A little more than 17 pounds, I would definitely say it was one of his favorite caliber rifle combo, I know one of his favorite was also the 1876 in 45-75 WCF
nice
That old Browning 1886 FS commemerative is one slick piece of hardware. Probably the best of its kind
Thank you so much
Wow! What a cool test! Both of those pack some serious energy.
Thank you
Beautiful rifles, beautiful expansion of the bullets. Great video. Thanks for sharing it with us.
I'm glad you enjoyed it
I love the jelly, sir
I subscribed because of the .405 Win
Thank you here’s the other 405 videos I have th-cam.com/play/PLtgVFK0LOEdOZhSeleNDZ-GofpetmdXYl.html
That 1895 is one beautiful looking rifle - appreciate you taking the trouble to run these tests - we all learn a lot from your penetration testing. I wonder how hard cast projectiles would hold up in that ballistic gel fired from some of your collection. Thanks again.
Thank you so much
Wow, that 405 is really moving. I would like to see how your brothers uberti 50-95 with the 300 barnes would do with the gel !!! Awesome videos. Thanks
Great video. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Another outstanding comparison with impressive performance by both calibers. They performed just as you predicted with the longer .405 with great sectional density really penetrating deeply. I also agree that the 45-90 should have a heavier bullet because that also gives it greater sectional density. Thank you again for the great comparisons because they are very beneficial and very educational. Outstanding!
Thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it
@@Leverguns50 I always enjoy your thoughtful demonstrations. Have yet to meet anyone that knows this much about heavy hitting rounds from Leverguns as yourself. I also really appreciate the way you ask God to bless us...Sometimes the only Bible the others read that’s what they see us do or say. You do a great job of both sharing your knowledge with these firearms and ammunition, But you let your light shine! God bless you too!
Dang that’s got the thump to it brother
I would be disinclined to be the shaking block of jelly at the receiving end of either but am happy I have the 405 1895 as it appears to be a bit more traumatic. TR's lion medicine. In optimization of both calibers I am going to go with John Browning's assessment that the spire type bullet will give appreciably better performance.
Wau!
I like this kind of videos.
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Thank you
I'd love to see you get together with Scott AKA: Kentucky Ballistics and make a joint video. He's a big bore enthusiast just as you are. I'd love to see how your 45-90 and 50-110 stack up against his 458 Lott and 500NE.
That would be a lot of fun, he make some really cool videos
I am going to get me one of those 405s, Teddies big medicine.
You’re gonna love it
As usual you produced an excellent lever gun video featuring big bores. As you know by now I love me some Big Bore Lever Guns for hunting purposes. Maybe I missed it, but if you ever run up on an original or reproduction Winchester in .40-60 (thanks a lot Tom Selleck), I would really like to know your opinion of the round. I'm considering having a gunsmith conversion to .40-60 done to one of my real Marlins but I'm just a bit reluctant to go that route since the .444 Marlin factory chambering works so well for me on hogs and deer. out to about 250 yards or so. Keep up the great Big Bore lever action videos/work! You are the best in my opinion!
As you can tell I love big bore rifles
Its cool to see the different calibers you have.
I’m glad you enjoy it
Gorgeous Lever action rifles !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you
Just diggin' the color case hardened look on that '95. Mike
It's beautiful isn't it
What is the brand/ make of the rifle on top in the pic? Is it a repro? If so,who makes it?
Holy cow that detonated in the gel! Great video man
Glad you liked it
4570 and 4590 and 5110 when you want a grizzly bear to do a somersault in the air
Thank you
Hello again, I love these two weapons as well as these two calibers and have watched this wonderful comparison numerous times as well as left laudatory comments. A thought came to me as I was watching the outstanding penetration of the .405;
have you ever compared the 40-82 Winchester using full loads of smokeless powders in a strong action to the .405? Just curious. Thanks in advance for your kind reply and God Bless!
Simply amazing how much energy is delivered at the target! Always loved the 405, and 45/90 thx for sharing, I would love to see how the big 405 does at a higher velocity with the TSX bullets?
I would like to see it at a higher velocity too, thanks for stopping in
I was watching the 55 gallon drum in the slo-mo. They both rocked it pretty good, all your stuff was bouncing around. I really like both of those rifles but that 45-90 is an awesome round.
Amazing!
Thank you
I personally based on your test would use the .405 on Boar and Buffalo. The .45-90 on Elk and Bear. Faster energy transfer on light skinned game and deeper penetration on heavier muscled game.
Both devistating rounds
Bear ,moose ,caribou ,buffalo, boar ,deer elk and really aren't gonna really g
Love your videos. Do you have one coming up on the Winchester Mod. 71 in .348?
Sure do
A narrower pointed holly point on the 45-90 might give deeper penatration & not act as a drag." Thanks much Michael"
Hey brother
405 win Teddy Roosevelt took it to Africa calling it his, "big medicine".
those things are monsters..
They sure are, thanks for watching
I wish you'd get off all the solids and jacketed bullets and go back through your lever collection using casts only. Everyone would want to cast for you if you didn't have all the moulds you wanted to try. Don't take me wrong, I just have a special interest in the old'skool casts.
I always enjoy shooting cast bullets, so I put up a survey to see what people would like to see me shoot don’t forget to enter
@@Leverguns50 Thank you, that's very kind of you....charlie
Either round will do the job on anything around this part of the world.
Good stuff brother
Thank you
2500 fps is well over the original 45-90 HV velocity which was near identical to the original 405 loadings of about 2200fps
Leverguns 50 what are the sectional densities of the 405 and the 4590 ? Bother 300 grains right? Was either one moving faster than the other?
My45-90 generally has a muzzle velocity of 2600 FPS
I really want a 45-90
Good to see you brother
I’ve been trying out the 300gr TSX in my .45/70 Ruger No1 using the less open point version because I’m not concerned with magazine chain fire.
How are they working for you?
@@Leverguns50 58.00gr RL7 gives the 300gr TSX 2320fps and sub MOA have not yet used them on deer here in the UK.
why not ratchet strap the gel down to the beam? i had a 1895 take down made in 1923 in 30 army (30-40 krag) and being the genius i am after about 20 years owning it i traded it off,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I liked watching the kinetic energy dance its dance. Shows you the raw power of the rifle/round combo. If tht was the belly of a beast (strapped down and not able to translate the energy into flying) im sure it would rip and tear more though.
Interesting to see a comparison w block 1 strapped and not.
I need a 1895 in 405 now
Yes
Unless you have 3 blocks for each gun you wont get a very reliable outcome .
What's your 405 load? Darn good penetration.
Thank you
The 45-90 was originally a black powder load with lead bullet making velocities and energy way different than the handloads your using comparing it to the 405 which that was a smokeless loading. Can you put it through the real test??
I'll see what I can do, but I need you to be more Pacific, what is what you would consider a real test
@@Leverguns50 Hi! Thanks! Original factory loading of the 45-90 cast bullet and black powder vs 405 factory load (smokeless)
The original factory Load was a 300 grain bullet doing 1530 FPS it come with soft lead it penetrated 13 boards a jacket soft point which penetrated 15 boards or a full metal jacket which penetrated 19, the 405 was a 300 grain bullet at 2200 FPS it had a soft point that penetrated 13 boards or a full metal jacket at penetrated 48 boards. according to original Winchester advertisement.
@@Leverguns50 Thanks for the reply!
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Thank you
Teddy Roosevelt took one to Africa. Guess he knew a bit about firearms
Thank you
Looks like 45-90 win. I say thiscause more hit to 45-90 with 28 inches kill anything. 405 go deep so damage
A model 1886 wasn't made for these types of pressure's He's holding on to a grenade their"
A new Model 1886 it’s rated for 50,000 psi in 45-70 The 92 Winchester in 454 is rated for 65000 psi which is a scale down model of the 1886 The bighorn armory model 89 is a slightly scale down model of the 86 or upscaled model of the 92 and it’s also a 65,000 psi gun, and that is the science behind what I’m doing here, making sure I’m well within the same pressure range
225 grains I don't care what it is 2000 fps or better it will flatten anything even a old 38 55 buffalo bore load get out of the way
I think 405 is faster than 45-90
Normally a 405 which is a 300 grain bullet about 2300 FPS with modern powders that can be pushed a little bit faster about 3400 fps, The 45-90 with modern guns and modern powder can be pushed to 2600 FPS with a 300 grain Bullet
I probably used older table or figured 45/70....stand re-educated
....would like modern 1895 t/d 405
But can't seem to find one here in North B.C.