The New Percy Jackson Story Is An Evolution In Writing

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  • The newest installment in the Percy Jackson saga changes the very nature of storytelling...Find out in this video why! Let me know how I can improve these videos and also let me know if there is anything specific you would like me to cover!
    Songs:
    Johann Strauss II - The Blue Danube Waltz
    Matchbox 20 - How Far We've Come
    Jonas Brothers - Blue Danube [Rock Version] (Audio)
    Arthur Benson - Stay Whimsical
    Gabriel Lewis - Ancient Discoveries
    The Godfather Soundtrack
    Tchaikovsky - Waltz of the Flowers
    Reunion in the Tent / Searching for the Well
    Washington Ending / Raiders March
    Johann Strauss II - Voices of Spring Waltz
    Credits:
    The books and characters belong to Rick Riordan
    Artists:
    Viria
    John Rocco
    Ilyone
    Mari Victal
    Livibis
    Alessia Trunfio
    Meetmyglowinthedarkboyfriend

ความคิดเห็น • 418

  • @tolis19
    @tolis19 ปีที่แล้ว +1105

    Honestly when tou think about it its kinda crazy that house of hades is still considered a children's book considering everything that was going pn in that book

    • @ignisfelix5837
      @ignisfelix5837 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Ppl think that? Wow 😂

    • @Onezy05
      @Onezy05 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      That was always my favourite. I loved how dark and mature it got as the heroes made their way through a literal hell.

    • @plantinapot9169
      @plantinapot9169 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I read it so long ago I don’t even remember : (

    • @griffins750
      @griffins750 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Honestly the whole Heroes of Olympus series is pretty mature for a kids or even young teen’s book… Sure that language is pretty simple but the weight behind the character’s motivations is surprisingly mature in its nature, from ptsd to an attempt to save your father from being eaten… To literally using your soul (or something) to free the chains of a death god whilst knowing that doing so will likely lead to your own demise and or the demise of your best friend/gf! Like what?! Fucking drowning in mud as your friends try to save you and your nemesis is trying to offer you a perfect life with your loved ones but your forced to give up this prospect as an illusion in order to save yourself, your friends and the world Like WHAT THE FUCK?!? Seriously The Son of Neptune is metal as fuck!

    • @tolis19
      @tolis19 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@griffins750 honestly i never thought of that before but you absolutely right son of Neptune is really metal

  • @olliecook2860
    @olliecook2860 ปีที่แล้ว +579

    I love the sun and the star SPOILER especially when nemesis and her other children tells Nyx that she’s more than the goddess of revenge and it was fucking amazing

    • @olliecook2860
      @olliecook2860 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      But all of it was excellent and way much better than most of the Harry Potter books

    • @olliecook2860
      @olliecook2860 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Fight me on it

    • @sophtheloaf_books
      @sophtheloaf_books ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@olliecook2860 i won't Percy Jackson is so much better and the sun and the star was an amazing book
      Nico and the cocoa puffs is the best band name ever

    • @andrecarpenter2432
      @andrecarpenter2432 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s amazing to see characters growing beyond their myths and becoming their own people. Even the monsters can change and become good if they want, there’s hope for the demigods to eventually coexist with them

    • @thedukeofchutney468
      @thedukeofchutney468 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If we’re talking about the OG Percy Jackson and the Olympians then I’d argue any one of those pare just as good if not better than HP. However if we’re talking about Heroes of Olympus then those as kinda mid. Trials of Apollo is a bit better and The Kane Chronicles are pretty good. But after the original series it feels a bit like the late stage MCU most of them aren’t bad but they aren’t particularly good either.

  • @trayryy
    @trayryy ปีที่แล้ว +844

    I like how this book is gives us a better insight to nico and will’s characters. Many people say nico is just a plot device who’s character is all sadness, but this novel gives us more sides to nico. In will’s case, a lot of people thought it was random for him to end up with nico (and thought leoxnico made more sense for some reason), and well we didnt know that much about him.
    But through tsats we all got to see their characters get fleshed out :D.
    I like how it isnt another “the world is ending soon” prophecy that involves percy, bc
    1) that storyline’s been used 3 times already
    2) it would get repetitive and bland
    3) percy deserves his rest
    Instead, I love this being a book to give us more information about what’s happening in the pjoverse and characters. I hope we get more of this, maybe one for Piper. It could be about her pov during the events of TOA.
    Sorry if this all made no sense im writing it all at 12 am :)

    • @andrecarpenter2432
      @andrecarpenter2432 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Percy deserves to rest so bad

    • @Gr0ot
      @Gr0ot ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In comparison with many other novella…Percy Jackson just pales in comparison.
      Nice series, very overrated in terms of writing. It’s the most basic of basic…which is okay.
      Basic=Good.
      Doesn’t always equate to bad. Y’all equate it to bad.

    • @thedukeofchutney468
      @thedukeofchutney468 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is really unpopular as an OG fan (I started reading just before Titans Curse came out) I didn’t think Nico being gay was done particularly well. It felt like a bad plot twist and just going by the books it made more sense that if Nico was into anyone it was Annabeth, and I’m not even arguing that idea. Unfortunately if you say that some of the newer fans will either say your a fake fan or just call you a homophobe. Anyways due to this poor plot twist (IMAO) we Will comes off as even MORE of a flat character. We’re always focused on who Will is in relation to other people. To Apollo he’s his son, to Nico he’s a romantic interest and to everyone else he’s Nico’s boyfriend thus making him pretty bland. So I completely understand why people don’t really like Will x Nico.

    • @knightsblight
      @knightsblight ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @thedukeofchutney468 never saw any chemistry with Annabeth whatsoever

    • @trayryy
      @trayryy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thedukeofchutney468 i respect your opinion. I personally don’t see him with annabeth though, they dont really have the same interests or any chemistry. Its not the same as percabeth

  • @Ķii567huh
    @Ķii567huh ปีที่แล้ว +670

    Rick riordan has to be my favourite writer

  • @meninhx
    @meninhx ปีที่แล้ว +212

    I read th sun and the star in one day, because i couldn't stop reading. It's a great book with a great history, great characters and a lot of things that i love.
    But the thing i like most is how it shows the friendship between Jason and Nico and how Nico deals with Jason's death. I really love that.

    • @andrecarpenter2432
      @andrecarpenter2432 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same

    • @TheOnlyWay2Go.
      @TheOnlyWay2Go. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      JASON DIES???

    • @meninhx
      @meninhx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheOnlyWay2Go. Sorry for the spoiler. Really
      It happens in Trials of Apollo

    • @MyNameIsOng
      @MyNameIsOng 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I feel like mark oshiro and Rick gave Nico one of the best character arcs, that ended in said book, of any fantasy book characters in the world. I remember finishing this book and being like: "okay, Nico is happy the book had a perfect ending Nico and Will had a perfect ending, both in content and in writing of said content". This book is really one of my favourite PJO books

  • @sibergirl2645
    @sibergirl2645 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Wow one of my beloved pairings is finally canon! Nico x Happiness!!!
    I have had that listed as one of my top ships for over a decade :')

    • @Halfwithero314
      @Halfwithero314 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now we just need Kaladin x happiness... who am I kidding that could never happen

    • @milkman4407
      @milkman4407 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Halfwithero314you’re funny pal, Kal will find happiness when the Night Brigade stops chasing Zellian

  • @JanbluTheDerg
    @JanbluTheDerg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    What struck me about Mark Oshiro being onboard for The Sun and the Star is the books inclusion of lgbtq+ topics. It was always going to happen, but I don't think Rick alone could have written all of what we got. It's like, possibly the next phase in the Riordanverse, where Rick can work with writers who know more about some of the topics Rick wants to write about, expanding the inclusion in the books to be... well better.

  • @Narniandemigod
    @Narniandemigod ปีที่แล้ว +396

    I am jealous of the kids that grew up with the books. I wish I was able to read PJO and HOO when they first came out. I could have read the stories when I was the same age as the characters, but I was just able to read them during pandemic after hesitating to read PJO because I am a massive Potterhead. haha.

    • @luvmeday
      @luvmeday ปีที่แล้ว +10

      lol similar to me i reread hp so many times growing up and finally read pjo and hoo during the pandemic

    • @corvair5454
      @corvair5454 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I grew up with PJO. I tried rereading it during pandemic as well and it doesn't feel the same anymore. Must be because I'm old now lmao.

    • @savi2634
      @savi2634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@corvair5454 same

    • @griffins750
      @griffins750 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Got my House of Hades signed for my birthday 😅 Was never a Potterhead but rejoiced!!! At least you got a movies series that wasn’t an embarrassment… Then again your author isnt much to write home about sooooo 🤷 I guess we’re even lmfao 😂😂😂

    • @HiHi-lt1cb
      @HiHi-lt1cb ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha same! I read HP in middle school and PJ in high school!

  • @henrikbaum
    @henrikbaum ปีที่แล้ว +275

    For me the first "children" book that was way more brutal and mature than other books for the 10-12y category was Gregor the Overlander from Suzanne Collins. These books were so dark and graphic, I honestly dont know how she even managed to label them for this age.
    After watching this video I want to read the percy jackson series again and also finally read the heroes of olympus

    • @luvmeday
      @luvmeday ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i will never tire of saying the heroes of olympus series is so good i would definitely check it out

    • @Comicbroe405
      @Comicbroe405 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luvmeday Yup. For me it would've bee my favorite series from Rick if the finale wasn't a bit flawed. Also I think ToA is underrated.

    • @ritawilbur6128
      @ritawilbur6128 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I agree about Suzanne Collins- both Gregor and the Hunger Games. These were the first juvenile/YA books I ever read where the characters actually had PTSD from the trauma of their "adventures." It was incredibly realistic.

    • @KevinACarroll1996
      @KevinACarroll1996 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It really is a shame the Gregor books get slept on so much. But man this video makes me want to reread all the old Percy Jackson books I read growing up and the new ones I've missed.

    • @Super21Nash
      @Super21Nash ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Holy crap ! Just a few days back I was trying without much success to recall the name of this awesome book with giant insects and insect-sized humans. Thank you so much for mentioning it !

  • @calico_snail
    @calico_snail ปีที่แล้ว +60

    "Lay it on me, Will. I'm your grilled cheese."

  • @Playerr237
    @Playerr237 ปีที่แล้ว +1862

    A freaking children’s book being the evolution of storytelling tells you how great the book actually is
    Edit: not meant to offend children’s content or that it being the evolution of storytelling is strange :>

    • @justincummings8557
      @justincummings8557 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Considering many “children’s shows and movies” have better writing, characters, action, and world-building than in live-action, not really that surprising.
      I know those aren’t the same thing, but the point stands

    • @Playerr237
      @Playerr237 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@justincummings8557 most TH-cam series’ like Eddsworld or Crash Zoom also have better writing then other TV Shows so I completely agree with you lol

    • @justincummings8557
      @justincummings8557 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Playerr237 indeed

    • @jaygin6518
      @jaygin6518 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s not

    • @Playerr237
      @Playerr237 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaygin6518 heh?

  • @andrecarpenter2432
    @andrecarpenter2432 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I really love how the theme of changing the status quo was used in this book. It makes me hope that eventually it will be possible to have a more peaceful relationship between demigods and monsters, that they don’t need to be locked in this stupid forever war created by the gods

  • @luvmeday
    @luvmeday ปีที่แล้ว +57

    here's my take: the writing was good, the storytelling was good, the plot?? maybe a little weak, and i feel like i would have changed a bit about will and nico's dynamic. imo the story did a great job of completing nico's story but it was kind of sad in a way letting that go. i wish the setting had been more of the underworld not tartarus that would've really changed the tone for the better. idk just a thought. i missed the lightheartedness we should've gotten more of.

  • @ysabellanotfound
    @ysabellanotfound ปีที่แล้ว +41

    LOVE THIS SM
    I'm really glad that I'm seeing a lot of praise for The Sun and The Star, it's such an amazing book.

  • @virtual_studios5862
    @virtual_studios5862 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I got my childhood trauma from the house of hades and i loved every second over it

  • @ALeopard.
    @ALeopard. ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I've learned SO MUCH Greek mythology just from this series, ITS GREAT. Also, people say its a kids book while go to 1:47 of the video-

    • @jessec.6876
      @jessec.6876 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There's no need to get defensive over liking a book for children. It is a book for kids, but it's still great

  • @ADecentHandle
    @ADecentHandle ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is my comfort story
    When I feel down, I just open this book and spent 10 hours on it

  • @galwaybudris8359
    @galwaybudris8359 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    No matter how old iv gotten or all the books iv read the Percy Jackson universe and Ricks similar works will always hold a special place in my heart

    • @windghost2
      @windghost2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here, especially the Kane Chronicles for me as a little spin off into other Mythologies.

  • @johnnyhall9154
    @johnnyhall9154 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember reading the 3rd book and instantly loving Nico, glad he finally found happiness

  • @abbynew4188
    @abbynew4188 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Spoilers for the sun and the star: I preordered it as an ebook so the second it was midnight I got access to that book 567 pages finished that day and it’s so good in the house of hades we have the other povs to keep us out of Tartarus for to long so it isn’t hat depressing the entire time and for this book it was nico and wills stories about there life which made me mad whenever they popped up but made me sad every time they ended I especially love how nico accidentally came out to the camp because he wanted to ask will out for a picnic but when he asked the satyrs or nymphs to set it up they made it a coming it party. I was so happy they saved bob to and I have never wanted to hug nico more than in this book like when he revealed what really happened in Tartarus and the end with Piper was just an icing on the cake I loved this book so much

  • @melissa10101
    @melissa10101 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I read the books in the Percy Jackson and the Olympians Series more than 10 years ago and I didn't know there was another arc! can't wait to jump into it

  • @eveningstarwall7909
    @eveningstarwall7909 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I just wanted to say thank you for two things in this video it is awesome that you shared the information of a new book from the Percy Jackson universe. Let's just say I am a big fan of the Percy Jackson universe franchise. Another thing I wanted to say thank you to is for addressing the fact that oftentimes people try to put Band-Aids on things to heal things when in reality it doesn't fix things, healing is a far more longer process.

  • @PJO.demigod
    @PJO.demigod ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Nico is my favorite character ever uncle Rick should write some story’s about where Nico was between the end of Titans curse to camp Jupiter

  • @josephdawson8073
    @josephdawson8073 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I read this book a couple months after it came out and god it's *so* good!! It was like reading the first PJO book all over again, a truly special experience from the very first page, the kind that captures the emotional brilliance of the entire book and franchise as a whole.
    Every sequence with Gorgyra and the stories Will/Nico told about their adventures was so precious. It was a story not only for her but for us as well! Truly a special book from a special series!

  • @RoselinBooksOfficial
    @RoselinBooksOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was already super hype for The Sun and the Star and now I'm even MORE HYPE! I can't wait til it comes out in paperback so I can buy it

  • @jamesbratten4407
    @jamesbratten4407 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My aunt Erin got me the lightning thief is like 2010 or something and I grew up with PJ and followed every series. I reread that Annabeth and Percy kiss scene a million times and it was formative of my youth and views on romance

  • @NikoN-xw6xy
    @NikoN-xw6xy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really appreciate how this book also broke the stigma of the “underworld is bad” thing and how it affected will and nicos relationship to some degree as well. Also the Persephone talk was pure 👌👌👌👌 can’t wait to read The Chalice of the Gods.

  • @bibble_asmr
    @bibble_asmr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, this video was hands down the best i've seen in years! Not only was everything you said obviously correct, but the flow of the video, the excitement in your voice and all the research you did, pulled it together into an amazing captivating video.💗

    • @ThatPJOGuy
      @ThatPJOGuy  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I try. Thank you! 🥰

  • @azure_blue
    @azure_blue ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My only problem is that tSatS read more like fanfiction than Rick's previous work

    • @KayKayBayForever
      @KayKayBayForever ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do you have any specifics about why it felt like fan fiction?

    • @addu6066
      @addu6066 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I AGREEEEEE

  • @ryenis
    @ryenis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never have i ever wanted hear spoilers from a video that actually cares about not spoiling stories well done. Great vid.

  • @AlexisXavier
    @AlexisXavier ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh man
    I grew up with the original gang
    I was 13 when I read The Lightning Thief. This makes me feel so nostalgic

  • @williammawuko544
    @williammawuko544 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Am i the only one who thinks after the sun and star ,jason deserves his own book,hes the only one of the seven heroes who feels imo underdeveloped

  • @Onezy05
    @Onezy05 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Damn, I might have to pick up the series again.
    Read the original series and 'Heroes of Olympus', but gave up half way through the Trials of Apollo series. Might be worth giving it another shot.

  • @KneeGrowDoingKneeGrowThings
    @KneeGrowDoingKneeGrowThings ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This makes me finally want to read mark of Athena and the subsequent books

  • @Personian
    @Personian ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This franchise is THE most nostalgic piece of media for me and even still in 2023 I’m following it

  • @jemm113
    @jemm113 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Unfortunately I never got invested into Percy Jackson as a book series. By the time the movies came out I was reaching past the target audience, the films left a very mediocre impression on me, and I was at the beginning of my anime exploration phase. I should at some point set aside time to take a look at the series, I love reading various levels of literature to expand my horizons of understanding.
    But for my time, there was a kids’ series unlike ANY OTHER, one that sadly ended right when PJ was hitting its stride, and one I STILL love to this very day:
    BIONICLE
    That was the most mature storytelling I have ever seen, kids media or no. The weight of consequences, the characters. I still remember Takua braving the depths to Makuta’s lair, Vakama’s journey to becoming a leader, Matoro and his friends walking through the tunnel to Karzahni and all the horrors the Matoran saw there, the climb down the volcano’s spiraling staircases to the Mask of Life… the ultimate sacrifice… I remember it all. And it’s beyond my wildest imagination!

    • @ThatPJOGuy
      @ThatPJOGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DAmmm I remmeber Bionicles. I gotta re-catch up on it, it was lowkey fire!

  • @hudsonhaynie1632
    @hudsonhaynie1632 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember reading those books as a kid, it was the first “big book” I ever read, I was glued to it for days.

  • @mateophillips9502
    @mateophillips9502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man I appreciate you blasting my ears with that intro 😃

  • @Randomathenakid
    @Randomathenakid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best quote of tsats is….
    “It is Nico di Angelo, son of Hades! I have returned with my glow-in-the-dark boyfriend, Will Solace!”

  • @The-Shadow-Realm
    @The-Shadow-Realm ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ok - shut up and take my money! 😂
    But seriously - I really need to get back into this series. Damn - I really needed this, to be honest. I haven’t read this series since I was maybe 12 or 13 (I’m 27 now, retired from the Army, and going to Graduate School), but I’m convinced I need to re-read the Percy Jackson (and the Carter Kane series too, as I left off there).
    I just remember the absolute love I had for these books back in the day - so thank you letting me know about this new entry!

    • @ThatPJOGuy
      @ThatPJOGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😁😁

    • @onething361
      @onething361 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U mean Dam not Damn

    • @The-Shadow-Realm
      @The-Shadow-Realm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@onething361 no - I actually meant “damn”. So - shut up and don’t say stupid things, yeah?

    • @stargazer137
      @stargazer137 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@The-Shadow-Realm Its a Percy Jackson pun

  • @hpownsyou
    @hpownsyou 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Loveddddd this book! I think it’s actually one of my favorites. I just wish Apollo made a brief appearance, I got spoiled with the last series

  • @EuropeanApple755
    @EuropeanApple755 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I’m 99% sure there is but I’m holding out hope: are there spoilers for the Nico & Will Book?

    • @ThatPJOGuy
      @ThatPJOGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nope, no real details are spoiled!

    • @EuropeanApple755
      @EuropeanApple755 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ThatPJOGuy Great video! I’ve been worried that the book will just cheaply undermine house of hades, but what you said about the finale puts that fear to rest, as a satisfying conclusion is more important

  • @ruriva4931
    @ruriva4931 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    House of Hades was dark, but the one that really boggled my mind on how it got a pass was the Series of Unfortunate Events. Heroes of Olympus always skewed closer to YA but series of unfortunate events seemed to be more on the younger end of middle grade.

  • @TheMVPThanatos
    @TheMVPThanatos ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is what Marvel should have done with their legacy stories

  • @Morro12250
    @Morro12250 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And not to mention relatable characters in Percy jackson

  • @audiobooksforfree7857
    @audiobooksforfree7857 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    0:34 Ew. Not the Peter Johnson movies.

  • @d2dMiles
    @d2dMiles ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I liked the book, don't get me wrong. The character development is well written and sound, there are interesting side characters, and as always in this universe, depth and humour finds a place in the story side by side. The only thing that bugged me was Nico suddenly being an expert in contemporary queer art, memes etc. He is literally from the last century, lives in demigod camps that are not really queer, and in the Underworld. And he can't use electronic devices. Every time something of that kind was mentioned, I was pulled out of the story. But that's maybe only me.

    • @udayanbanerjee1
      @udayanbanerjee1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i wouldnt say that it pulled me out of the story but yeah it was the same for me it felt kinda weird

    • @Itwasnme
      @Itwasnme ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Not really, he didn't really stay at the camp much, and if you really like something you'll find out all about it og

    • @CoralCaper
      @CoralCaper ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I didn’t really like the book, but I did also think it was pretty funny

    • @vegetablea9611
      @vegetablea9611 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i haven't read the books in a long while, and haven't read the sun and the star yet (looking for spoilers to decide whether i want to or not). but are the camps in the books not queer? the greek gods are incredibly queer. from zeus to apollo, a lot of gods were in a gay relationship at some point. is this somehow not part of the pj series?

    • @d2dMiles
      @d2dMiles ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vegetablea9611 No, in the books Nico is the first openly queer character. Which is kind of surprising, but it is how it's written.

  • @MICHVEl12
    @MICHVEl12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wasnt one to ask my parents to get me stuff but these books are something that I really wanted and I received. My parents regretted it bc I’d get in trouble for reading these books during class and when I was supposed to be sleeping.

  • @BlackXSunlight
    @BlackXSunlight ปีที่แล้ว +3

    House of Hades was everyone's favorite? I thought the general consensus at the time was that its very premise was super hype, but Mark of Athena kind of kicks its butt in terms of the larger cast and their relationship dynamics playing off better.

    • @mintbrownieangelfish-6114
      @mintbrownieangelfish-6114 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know the hype for house of hades was crazy big, probably bigger than mark of athena's was. I remember everyone trying to read each other's copies in middle school. I begged to read other people's chapters because I couldn't get it yet. I think mark of athena was a better book and it's still my favorite, but maybe the hype affected the rating?

  • @fantastical_dawn
    @fantastical_dawn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    tbh i haven't read this book yet but i already know it's going to be awesome because I need development on solangelo

  • @janieceng2153
    @janieceng2153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sun and the star is absolutely amazing, couldn’t wait for even more from rr in chalice of the gods

  • @themythosarchives7520
    @themythosarchives7520 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Oh good gods above do I have things to say about Star Wars and the MCU. The MCU technically still has Kevin Feige as a uniting visionary but the output required thanks to D+ has made it a bit of a disorganized mess. Star Wars I have so much to say I don’t have the energy or time for it (right now at least). I was a Star Wars fan for years before I even knew about Percy Jackson, but all I will say for now is that there are a multitude of reasons why the only official Star Wars content I engage with anymore is Visions.
    I love The Sun and the Star and other books in the Riordanverse in part because they tell new stories often centered on other characters rather than retelling the same story or being centered on characters who have already had their stories told. Something that Hollywood as a whole has a serious problem with. Alien, Terminator, Jurassic Park, etc. which tell the same stories or tell more of existing stories that don’t need to be told and they make the original stories weaker. Sure the emotional impact of the original is still there, but if you watch a movie to see the heroes accomplish something great and then there’s sequel movie in which the accomplishment effectively didn’t matter it leaves a bad taste.
    The Riordanverse doesn’t have this problem for the same reason I mentioned before. It expands on what it has rather than milk the same stuff.
    As for the book itself I loved what it did for healing Nico and for how much it fleshed out Will, and how it expanded Wills powers in a way that fit thematically. And a whole lot of other things. And yeah, I couldn’t tell who wrote what either. Beyond this one moment that Mark said at an event that they wrote. It’s possibly my new favorite Riordanverse book, I do have issues like just how overwhelmingly happy the ending was and I don’t think it’s as well written as The Dark Prophecy or The Burning Maze, but it hit upon a lot of things I love about this universe and it’s characters and even some new things that I grew to love.

    • @ThatPJOGuy
      @ThatPJOGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wonderfully said. TSATS isnt my number 1, there were other stories in the riordanverse that I think I still enjoy more than this one (will prolly touch on that when I make my full riordanverse book ranking vid), but I could not get the idea out of my head that this story did so much better than most of the legacy media nowadays. It was a great mix of old and new, that introduces new characters and themes, but also touches on some recurring themes that these stories have always told such as how being yourself is powerful.

  • @misslangleysoryuisiconic
    @misslangleysoryuisiconic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When PJO had a mass existence, I was listening to UDD’s songs

  • @tgl.9078
    @tgl.9078 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just two months ago of this video. Thanks so much, for keeping this amazing book kn the spotlight. It is indeed and amazing book. It left all perfectly concluded, and still, its so well done... that I still want more about this characters and this franchise. Still, Its so well written that I could wait another decade for a new book, and it would be like not one single day went by since I closed that book for the first time...

  • @giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947
    @giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It still has cool cover art although it is by far a writing and a universe that pleases me, I'm happy that it was successful and that Rick Riordan has obviously grown as a writer and the public has matured, although I didn't ask for another book, true fans really want it.

  • @kanishkpandey6068
    @kanishkpandey6068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly I was not that big of a fan of the sun and the star but I’m still excited to read the chalice of the gods

  • @mystery1317
    @mystery1317 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sooo, I take that this is a sign I should finish Trials of Apollo so I can read this, yes?
    I've followed the riordanverse since like 2009 but I dropped off with the fourth ToA book bc I just wasn't feeling it so much at the time but I've deffo been curious about The Sun and the Star. Also, Rick and Mark were promoting the book at a librarians conference in Chicago this summer that I happened to attend but I didn't know about their appearance until it was too late and I think I'll be mad about it forever 😭

  • @Aria_Dragonneel
    @Aria_Dragonneel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So i just learned about this book.
    Went to Rick’s website.
    And learned that a day or so ago, a 6th book was just released in the Percy Jackson series.
    There’s a _6th book._

  • @Raz0r_Ang3ll
    @Raz0r_Ang3ll ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really loved THE SUN AND THE STAR

  • @daydeer9912
    @daydeer9912 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I finished blood of Olympus years ago, and was hesitant to start the trials of apollo. I don't even think i got through the first book, it was such a blur i might not have. I felt like the story was going downhill. i first felt it when nico and will got together because i thought it felt a little forced for nico to have all this beautiful character development to be paired with some random side character with less screen time than the stoll brothers. But i've been rereading the books from the begining, and i think ill just jump back to it. Im convinced the sun and the star is good but i want to finished trials of apollo first. I already failed reading the kane chronicles so heres hoping. thanks dude. hopeium restored.

  • @mastermutiple2001
    @mastermutiple2001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am so so excited to read this book!

  • @wolfking099
    @wolfking099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ive recently been dragged back into this fandom, screaming and having to be yanked by the ear but I don't regret it, i gotta say i truly missed this place

    • @luigiloujoy
      @luigiloujoy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The fandom is great except for
      "ThIs gOes AgAiNsT mY ChRisTIanIC BeLiEfs."

  • @na.meless
    @na.meless ปีที่แล้ว +2

    tbh i will never get out of how far we´ve come

  • @Whum12
    @Whum12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    watched .2 seconds of the video and already love it

  • @abnrmlgmr64
    @abnrmlgmr64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't know that nico gets a lot of development after the last olympian, it makes me want to read the rest of the books

  • @Comicbroe405
    @Comicbroe405 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a really amazing video! Was gonna read the later but now I'm very invested.

  • @MediumDSpeaks
    @MediumDSpeaks ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally couldnt make it through the Apollo books so im glad to know the new ones are good, ill check it out

  • @potatobrain8379
    @potatobrain8379 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy mackerel NICO was written in the same year I was BORN?!??!

  • @CoolScratcher
    @CoolScratcher ปีที่แล้ว

    fellow video essay maker here (across a few channels) this was very well-crafted and is a really cool analysis of TSATS and PJO/The Riordanverse in general

  • @giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947
    @giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I like about the concept so far is the idea of ​​opposites, For me, Percy Jackson forgives those who are not Otaku, but PJ is very anime and manga Battle Shounen in my opinion and here we have two characters who are the literal kind bright guy contrasting with the dark and dark character who needs to resolve himself this was a good idea from the more Battle Shounen book, focusing on main characters that has this trope of light and darkness.

  • @tortured_jo
    @tortured_jo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently finished the PJO series and i just wish i got to experience reading it early on cuz i indeed missed out on a lot

  • @guessmyname1246
    @guessmyname1246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was able to get through my childhood trauma by escaping into the house of hades ans the rest of HOO
    That book SAVED me
    So now that Im older i cant wait to read sun and the star. It'd be like finishing a painting

  • @Dan-zc3ou
    @Dan-zc3ou 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    House of Hades has a special place in my heart, as a closeted italian guy i saw myself a lot in Nico.
    Also it was when i started shipping him and Jason lol

  • @IamHattman
    @IamHattman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    'Fot it's entirely 462 pages..'
    Me: So it's a light read..
    'Wow that's a big book'
    Me - who's finishing a reread of Stormlight Archive: What? Oh right..
    😅

    • @jacksondavies1451
      @jacksondavies1451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me who is reading the stormlight archive right now

  • @hanazonolyllian7189
    @hanazonolyllian7189 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love tsats finally a good ending for nico ! he deserved his happiness
    also
    the first demigod that I saw that gets help y'know related to his mental health xD

  • @lemonhscott7667
    @lemonhscott7667 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God I wish he was still writing the Kane Chronicles.

  • @emmy8628
    @emmy8628 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    finally someone who's not shitting on tsats. I loved this book and everyone i asked about it hated it

  • @thezenlu
    @thezenlu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you made some BIG proclamations here that don't quite stand.
    Comparing movies to books is always going to be a rough go, especially when it come to franchised movies which usually have many hands touching it even before a director gets to it. While books, unless you are dealing with again legacy franchise storytelling (star wars, star trek, warcraft) are usually the property of a single voice. Solo efforts compared to collaborative efforts are by the nature of the industries they represent going to play with different rules and have different experiences they evoke.
    Basically, you could have still made an amazing argument for this book without mentioning marvel or star wars, and there was never a guarantee the iron man would lead to end game... a lot of things had to go right to make that "inevitable".
    As for The Sun and the Star, I think it does a lot of justice for Nico that he deserved for being the kid who stopped being allowed to be a kid so early in the series.
    This is definitely new territory for Rick actually having a book focused on the maintenance of a relationship and focusing on those left behind in a quest. I hope to see more from Rick here.

  • @wickerhazbrownsauce8564
    @wickerhazbrownsauce8564 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fucking awesome video man!
    I would recommend looking into some of the audio mixing on this video though, blasted my ears a couple of times on the music segments.
    :)

  • @christianmccauley7340
    @christianmccauley7340 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t know if I’d say a revolution, but it’s good.

  • @pizzaquate
    @pizzaquate 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh man, PERCY JACKSON BOOKS ARE ABSOLUTE AWESOME RICK RIORDAN IS THE BEST AUTHOR IN THE WORLD TEACHERS NEEDD TO PUSH THIS OUT TO STUDENTS

  • @crimson-rain
    @crimson-rain ปีที่แล้ว

    i love it when my ears start bleeding again after a wonderful intro

  • @kareemgrant8394
    @kareemgrant8394 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I keep getting pressured to read Percy Jackson by my friends they would get so invested in the books it's like they would start to escape reality anybody think that they are right is Percy Jackson that good

  • @user-jl8td7tb9y
    @user-jl8td7tb9y ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want to buy and read the book and I hate that I had to get rid of my books because I had too much stuff and very little room. My other books by Riordan the original 5 books, Magnus Chase trilogy and the Trails of Apollo.

  • @littleboo2002
    @littleboo2002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always wanted Nico to have a happy ending. I even wrote an extra chapter in The Blood of Olympus solely for him to get his happy ending...and I don't do fan fiction. I never got around to reading Trials of Apollo when they came out, I thought it was a completely separate story from Percy Jackson. Only this year did I find out that Nico and Will became canon and even more excited when I found out that The Sun and The Star was released only a few months ago was a story based around Nico and Will. I'm almost done TOA, I can't wait to read TSTS.

  • @omegaminoseer4539
    @omegaminoseer4539 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm interested in hearing how The RIordanverse is able to increase in size. The House of Hades actively murdered my interest in his universe, since the book was too quality that it crushed everything else past it. The fight against a spoiler character warped Percy so severely that he has basically been reeling with being a monster, forever. Not being able to see that throughline come to pass-especially with, "Foes bearing arms to Doors of Death," in The Trials of Apollo being so weak by comparison made me drop the series.

    • @ThatPJOGuy
      @ThatPJOGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel similarly about House of Hades, its probably my favourite book in the entire franchise. However I disagree about quality further on in the franchise. I agree Trails of Apollo is a bit slow in the beginning (mainly book 1 and 2) but it really picks up in book 3. If you get there and are still not engaged then thats preference, but if you havent gotten farther into Trials of Apollo i'd truly reccommend it!

    • @omegaminoseer4539
      @omegaminoseer4539 ปีที่แล้ว

      Inshallah, @@ThatPJOGuy. I will pick up the third book. I read one and two and the pace felt like a snail's crawl. I'll comment again with a Gyazo when I finish it.

    • @ThatPJOGuy
      @ThatPJOGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonderful! 😁😁@@omegaminoseer4539

  • @theidpboi6205
    @theidpboi6205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did anyone else click this video JUST because it told us there was a NEW FREAKING BOOK HOLY SHIT

  • @ri-ch-es
    @ri-ch-es 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really good music choice dude

    • @ThatPJOGuy
      @ThatPJOGuy  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks 😁😁

  • @percyjacksonwebseriesla
    @percyjacksonwebseriesla 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video made me so nostalgic!! Love it!! And if you can't wait for the new disney+ tv show, check out our fanmade adaptation of "The Lightning Thief" in the meantime! 💙

    • @ThatPJOGuy
      @ThatPJOGuy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its a fantastic teaser! Could I promote it on my community page?

    • @percyjacksonwebseriesla
      @percyjacksonwebseriesla 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ThatPJOGuy We would LOVE that! Thank you so much!!

  • @arky5674
    @arky5674 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i would totally reread the entire percy jackson franchise if it was adopted into a manhwa/webtoon style

  • @Cl_ve4r-smth
    @Cl_ve4r-smth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not the persassy meme in the intro

  • @jenijive3319
    @jenijive3319 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's crazy how people complain that these books are too adult, but kids still have parents going to war, being physically and sexually abused, and sometimes literally working while going to junior high and high-school to support their family.
    You may not LIKE this reality, but it's still reality, and all children should be exposed to it. This is how we spread empathy.

  • @kingdragoncat
    @kingdragoncat ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, I wanna see how Rick will end this. Will he have some massive "Avengers Endgame" type of battle with our demigods, favorite heroes and gods against some grand evil that transcends all the Pantheons of the magical world?
    Will Percy end it all with some epic duel, or a sacrifice of some sort, locking away all opposing monsters, or putting all Gods/Giants/Titans and all immortals to sleep in a statis like form, where they can only manifest in dreams or as ghosts for short periods before returning back to Stasis?
    Like... what does this man have planned?

  • @johntimothyvalenzuela8146
    @johntimothyvalenzuela8146 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    462 pages a big book? its been a while it seems that i read a normal book other than sanderson's

  • @mooky01
    @mooky01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I barely remember anything about this franchise, I read it years and years ago. This video, however, very much makes me want to read the novel. Do you think I can just pick it up and it it'll work for me or should I try to dig back into the stories and characters first?

  • @Ghostking606
    @Ghostking606 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think you mean 45% Rick 45% mark 10% wife

  • @pianopaeonia
    @pianopaeonia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    do you have a video on the trials of apollo series? or ur views of it? would love to see that ^^

  • @EspeonaSparkle
    @EspeonaSparkle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! :D

  • @gandalfthewhite.5245
    @gandalfthewhite.5245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It sounds like an interesting book. I don’t really care for anything after heros of Olympus unless it’s oriented around Percy, but it sounds like a good book.