Stress causing lesions in the horse's mouth? With Wouter Demey - Podcast #14
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- In this episode, I speak with Wouter Demey, a veterinarian and specialist in equine dentistry.
We talk about a lot of interesting topics, like why some horses are very sensitive on the bars, what the effect of stress is on the blood flow in the head, what it means when a horse has a lot of saliva during riding and much more.
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Another cutting edge fascinating podcast that every equestrian who thinks they “know” should hear
Chronic pain in humans is difficult to treat as it involves both physical Cal and mental. Riders need to think of this
That comment we can't est grass made me remember a conversation I had with a Dutch lady who survived ww2 we tried eating grass but it did didn't help. Humans can't eat grass. I never forgot her
Amazing conversation. More of this, please.
Wow! This kept me focused the whole 1,5 hrs! So much food for thoughts and explained in such an easy and relaxed way. Even though I don't have horses anymore, I am so looking forward to the next pod with these two. Thank you soooo much, Tristan! Love your work!
Great information. All this fabulous new information. Thank you Tristan for presenting with such interesting and knowledgeable guests
This is awesome! Thank you so much for this ❤
Finally I found my feel of a thought I had about horses 50 years ago proved right in your work. I am so glad that you open up the world of these animals in such a broad perspective. Thank you. Check out this scientist Andrew Haberman you have a lot in common.
Ongelofelijk interessant! Al 50 jaar paarden …heb dit nooit geweten! Dankjewel 🙏
Mind blown! 💣
Excellent topic! I appreciate the focus on horse welfare from all facets of the equine industry. Education truly is the key. Please continue to open the doors and expanding our knowledge.
Thank you very much for this! Informative, interesting and entertaining. I'm absolutly with you re to the age of horses doing competitions and on which level. E..g. : 4-6 level E (or none), 6-8 level A, 8-10 level L, 10-12 level M, 12-14/16/18 (individually) level S or Grand Prix. 18- ? Retirement... 😅 best wishes! And please keep that kind of programms up.
Thanks TRT. Very informative and interesting. But so many 'horsey' people seem reluctant to critically examine how we interact with our horses. There is so much to learn. An open, inquiring mind is necessary.
More please. In 25 yrs of learning about equine dentistry have never heard this.
One of the best podcasts ever! Education is key. Thanks so much to you both for sharing.
This was an extremly enlightening interview I would love to see more of these kind of informative interviews.
Fantastic info, every owner and rider should watch this 👍 👌
Wow this is really good. The vet is really carrying about his job and it’s make me happy to see. We need more ppl who is telling the trues.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Food for thought. So much to learn.
This was so helpful! Great podcast. All the right questions were asked, so much to think about. Thank you 🙏
I have an 18 yr. old Haflinger gelding. I've only had him for about 4 yrs. I've had 2 different dentist look at him. The one said there was no problems and the other used an electric drill to float his teeth. This did not solve the problems either. I ride with a hackamore as he can't stand a bit or any pressure on his bars; even a gentle thumb message.
I have to soak his grain to soften it otherwise he dribbles it out of his mouth.
I really wish we had someone like Dr. Derney here in the US.
Thank you for this informative podcast.
What an amazing podcast! I’ve learned so much from your content. Could you recommend some books of horse behaviour science and anatomy on basic level. I’m slowly trying to get to prepare myself for my own horse in the future.
Thank you, for these information from this eloquent guest. I am sure Tristan will transfer them into his courses. I very much hope, some of the judges will see and understand in depth what has been said. They are in power to change the rule in a long run. I have to smile when I imagine tristan beeing a judge. It would be like a fox amongst chicken, not knowing there is a teacher around them.
What a brilliant podcast! Thank you for sharing!
Thank you once again for another excellent podcast with so much valuable information.
As others have said, thanks Tristan for this really interesting podcast. So much information giving us more knowledge. A lot to think about.
Always enjoy these podcasts. This one was exceptionally full of great information.
Fascinating, thank you
Indeed E.D.U.C.A.T.I.O.N. so important ... love this episode ... 🙏
Very very interesting and informative thank you 👍
Thank you for a very interesting podcast. I am looking forward to a follow up on this item.
Loved this Podcast, so informative. Thank you
Mega interesting! Thank you so much for sharing ❤
A lot of interesting information here, thank you for this podcast Tristan. Wouter is amazingly articulate in English so that is also helpful! There were also very interesting comments about the plastic bits. I take a lot of photos of horses in competition and one thing I noticed was that the horses with plastic bits were constantly opening their mouths and looking very uncomfortable, even though their rider may have had only the lightest contact (and had clearly chosen that bit with a view to it being the kindest for the horse).
However, I do take issue with the opinion expressed by Wouter, without any scientific backup that hypersalivation “if it constantly happens is not a very good sign”. Firstly, Wouter has stated that a dry mouth is often associated with chronic stress. Then he says (30:32) “Sometimes they can go into hypersalivation, so the clear signs of hypersalivation where you see the foam coming out. I would say (pause)... it’s tricky….if it’s just happening sometimes it’s OK it’s just the excitement of the competition but if it constantly happens I think it’s not a very good sign either.”
So what is he saying here? First of all, instead of saying “I don’t know enough about hypersalivation, that’s something we need to research more”, he states a judgemental opinion “I THINK [opinion] it’s not a very good sign either” . OK, well, where is the evidence? I would be very interested to see it, because in my experience, my horse “hypersalivates” a thick white foam because he is enjoying an elastic, sensitive contact (he may also likes the taste and feel of the Sprenger KK Ultra bit). Now if the saliva were to be thin, runny and “stringy” I might share Wouter’s opinion. It’s not good when an expert on a subject inserts an opinion into the discussion without disclosing it as such.
Apart from that, lots of interesting discussion! Thank you.
OMG that makes so much sense about the leasions. I have that myself cause i am always stressed and therefor my mouth doesnt work as it should. Thanks for this new inside. I now know what to do with myself (relaxation of the facial tissue/ mouth tissue). Now i need to find a way to relax.
Interesting to hear that this talk helped you somehow, that's great!
Such a good load of knowledge! Thank you!
fascinating discussion xx
Wow thank you so much for this 🙏🏼
Very interesting talk, thanks a lot!!!! ❤
What about a loose neckstrap instead of bridle or bit
I only use an Equine Dentist Veterinarian. A Vet that only does Dentistry.
The vets aren't always the best educated in dental needs of horses. Usually too aggressive with power tools, and unbalanced outcomes at that.
With the acknowledgement in this (great) episode that 60% of riding horses suffering from bit injuries… how are we not taking that super seriously? And while I do agree that simply switching to bitless is not the whole answer because, as he said, it’s just shifting where the pressure goes… then isn’t that the solution… to STOP the PRESSURE? If bits cause oral injuries, and nosebands cause injuries, then the problem IS obvious: pressure on the horse’s head/mouth/face is causing damage. Until the equestrian world is willing to face this and start training with radically different physical training principles (that do not involve pressure on the head/mouth/nose), horses will continue to suffer, and social license is at risk. Modern movement science has answers for training physical skill without direct pressure in the body, but we’re too stuck on traditions to bother exploring 😢
I have two horses who have to wear grazing muzzles. I worry how this may impact their teeth.
We didn’t have a ton of sugar in our diets 100 years ago either.
my horse loves his cavesson on with a fist sized gap, minumum. Why dont I take it off? he has a blaze and it looks better!
So 5 languages might bet dementia Well done