Can You Fly this ODP? | Obstacle Departure Procedures Explained

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  • @-The-Stranger-
    @-The-Stranger- 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Got all but the last question correct. I've actually never heard of the triple correction. I'll never forget it though. Thanks a lot! More of these please!

    • @RedSailor1701
      @RedSailor1701 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Captain Joe did a 2/3 part video on VOR holds some years ago iirc

  • @PghGameFix
    @PghGameFix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As always... love your vids, but your first question has 2 right answers. The "700 is greater than the 380'nm" is also true. At 95ks, you need to climb aprox 580'min. (depending on actual ground speed) Leaving that feet/min tag off doesn't change the answer. either way.... it's good to keep things sharp.

    • @iNcog_AoE
      @iNcog_AoE 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Climb RATE is fpm. 700 is fpm, gradient is in feet per nautical miles. The units of measure aren’t the same making that answer incorrect

    • @PghGameFix
      @PghGameFix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iNcog_AoE It's semantics, and interchangable when converted. Without a label, we go with the info in the question. (Ft/Min) the climb is more that the gradient.

  • @CptJakeA
    @CptJakeA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I trained out of Provo for a while, so I'm very familiar with this one already lol. Feels like cheating

  • @iNcog_AoE
    @iNcog_AoE 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank god. Odp are hard to get

  • @brianhill716
    @brianhill716 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the airport that I instruct out of. You forgot to brief the notams. Answer the question 1 is no, because there’s an FDC NOTAM changing the climb gradient to 445 Ft/nm.
    2) correct
    3) incorrect because again per that notam we are to delete “and hold” from all of the departure route descriptions. If you lose communication, it’s not a short range thing anymore you just continue or start an approach. No hold.
    4) this question is not applicable because there is no hold per the aforementioned NOTAM.

    • @brianhill716
      @brianhill716 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m just joking with you, as always great video. ;)

  • @johnopalko5223
    @johnopalko5223 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would have gotten them all but, for the first question, I said yes, because we could make the climb gradient *for that runway* (the upper left answer). I don't understand why the upper right answer was correct because it only mentioned one climb gradient when the procedure specified multiple gradients, depending on the runway.

    • @RedSailor1701
      @RedSailor1701 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Semantics. The top left says “climb rate” and top right says “climb gradient” which is technically more correct.
      The ODP is asking if you can achieve a gradient, so I think examiner would expect you to answer the question with respect to the gradient

    • @johnopalko5223
      @johnopalko5223 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RedSailor1701 Oh, drat and fiddlesticks! You are absolutely correct. I misread it.
      Thanks!

  • @ericthomas8147
    @ericthomas8147 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got the first one wrong because I was calculating for a 600 FPM climb, thinking the plane probably isn't going to get POH performance :)

  • @MrSixstring2k
    @MrSixstring2k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Entries into the hold was the only one missed, entries give me a hard time.

    • @I_know_you_are_right_however
      @I_know_you_are_right_however 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless you are on a checkride or taking a knowledge test/quiz, there is no "right" answer on how to enter a hold. In the "real world" you could have used any of the three to enter that hold and nobody would have batted an eyelash. Although a Direct entry would have been pretty difficult from that position, either a Teardrop or Parallel entry would have worked just fine in this situation. There is, of course, one entry that is the book answer "better" than the others, but none of them are legally wrong. Since you are not technically "in the hold" until you cross the holding point on the inbound course, what is important is that you set yourself up for that proper inbound course to the holding point and make the turn to the correct direction after crossing the holding point.

    • @TiagoSeiler
      @TiagoSeiler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whenever you see you'll approach a hold and "spill" onto the outside of it, that's a parallel. Whenever you see you'll approach and it just makes sense to enter straight into it, with minimum turn, that's a direct. If those two don't fit, teardrop.

  • @IOTrooper
    @IOTrooper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Starting to think the creator of the channel is a UVU alumni or trained out of KPVU.