Towing 11,000 pounds with a Ford F-150 Lightning... MAXED OUT!

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  • Yeah Electric Trucks are fun - but can they DO stuff? Today we find out how far the Ford F-150 Lightning can tow its MAX payload of 11,000lbs. Huge thanks to Weigh Safe for sponsoring this video: www.weigh-safe... And thanks to Ford for letting me borrow the F-150 Lightning. Sorry for going over the max capacity - i dont count good.
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  • @SupernovaeTech
    @SupernovaeTech ปีที่แล้ว +728

    Now we need the Rivian retested and both the HMMWV EV and Hummer EV tested the same way. A leaderboard of electric trucks with towing range and acceleration would be pretty sweet as more options reach the market.

    • @kingzach74
      @kingzach74 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He already tested the Rivian.

    • @SupernovaeTech
      @SupernovaeTech ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@kingzach74 It would be interesting to see how much the range improves in warmer weather

    • @hazard_209
      @hazard_209 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@SupernovaeTech plus tires and figuring the tongue weight in.

    • @Mr_MikeMikeMike
      @Mr_MikeMikeMike ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@kingzach74 hence the "retested"

    • @bitelogger
      @bitelogger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agreed

  • @jd5179
    @jd5179 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    12 secs while towing 10k lbs of weight is insane

    • @roosoorschot93
      @roosoorschot93 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      While going up!

    • @XLRSAv
      @XLRSAv ปีที่แล้ว +12

      My Honda Ridgeline does that by itself on a dry day! 😅

    • @chadd587
      @chadd587 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Range: 50 miles

    • @blue_ig1
      @blue_ig1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chadd587 it had about a hundred

    • @chadd587
      @chadd587 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@blue_ig1 lol yeah on a full charge too

  • @XLRSAv
    @XLRSAv ปีที่แล้ว +444

    Nothing like Zack pushing the limits of every vehicle!

    • @YAHUWAHISKING
      @YAHUWAHISKING ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You mean shilling

    • @Mr.BobsDog
      @Mr.BobsDog ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You mean pineapple

    • @andrasbrunczel3777
      @andrasbrunczel3777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is pushing literally everything to its limits

    • @kyohiromitsu4010
      @kyohiromitsu4010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Too much monry

    • @techs1smh13
      @techs1smh13 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want the H1 take my DMAX engine trans install.

  • @danieltaylor4819
    @danieltaylor4819 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Try it in the wintertime, when it's snowing and blowing with outside temp of 10 degrees. That would be interesting.

    • @MeltingRubberZ28
      @MeltingRubberZ28 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah with the heater blasting

    • @Johnny-es1wl
      @Johnny-es1wl ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Lol, 5 miles at best.

    • @bfields1448
      @bfields1448 ปีที่แล้ว

      Junk

    • @Ragranos
      @Ragranos ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah then you guys would just invent some other niche unlikely scenario where ICE beats EV. You search for the conditions that make EVs bad because you're scared.

    • @EVMan298
      @EVMan298 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Only if he tests a fossil powered truck under the same conditions.

  • @davidhuber6251
    @davidhuber6251 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's nice seeing a test like this with no obvious bias. Good job.

  • @MumstheThird
    @MumstheThird ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That's my e-GOLF charging next to you that's rated for 124 miles. It's crazy that you can match my range while towing 10K.

    • @coldnapalmFJ
      @coldnapalmFJ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well the lightning was 100k how much was your golf cart ?

    • @MumstheThird
      @MumstheThird ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @coldnapalmFJ MSRP was $31K, back in 2017. But the dealer discounted it $4K, NY state paid for $2K, and then I got the $7.5k federal rebate, so not factoring taxes and registration, I paid $17.5k and VW fiananced it at 0%.

  • @shawntoadally
    @shawntoadally ปีที่แล้ว +225

    I want to see this done with the Rivian again, under the same conditions (spring weather, road tires). If you do, it would be good to know if Rivian has provided any software updates since your first towing test (perhaps they've improved the range estimations when towing and/or added options to see more data on the screen).

    • @navithefairy
      @navithefairy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Especially the cold weather makes a really big difference

    • @zachbendixen21
      @zachbendixen21 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rivian increased the range by around 20 miles since his test via a software update.

    • @cruiser97eric1
      @cruiser97eric1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also the route followed and the average speed needs to be the same to have a fair comparison.

    • @SaltySouthTexan
      @SaltySouthTexan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@navithefairy Not in a gasoline truck!

    • @SaltySouthTexan
      @SaltySouthTexan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zachbendixen21 20 whole miles??? HAHAHAHAHAHA. I could almost make it halfway out of the ranch.

  • @Caseys_jeep_that_could
    @Caseys_jeep_that_could ปีที่แล้ว +40

    7:13 so if you switch it to one pedal mode, it actually applies full re-gen as soon as you let off. You can come to a complete stop without using the brake on one pedal too

    • @JerryRigEverything
      @JerryRigEverything  ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I normally have one pedal mode enabled. But when I switched to tow mode it disabled one pedal driving.

    • @Scott-sm9nm
      @Scott-sm9nm ปีที่แล้ว

      Good nugget there. thx. -- "SWITCHING ONE PEDAL DRIVE ON AND OFF -- Press CONTROLS; Press Drive Modes; Switch 1-Pedal Drive on or off."

    • @IGmeanwell
      @IGmeanwell ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep Lightning disables one pedal while in Tow/Haul mode. Can’t really control the regen.

    • @wolfpack09nh48
      @wolfpack09nh48 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bro… it’s against physics to keep regen/stopping with a trailer attached..it can get jackknifed for being stupid

    • @Scott-sm9nm
      @Scott-sm9nm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wolfpack09nh48, A well designed regen system will work just like regular brakes as far as trailer towing is concerned. Regen systems can turn on the brake lights and thus trigger the trailer brakes as well just as if you manually were applying physical brakes. In a few electric vehicles I've owned the brake lights turn on during 'harder' regen. In fact, there are laws/regulations related to the G force limits when brake lights are engaged.

  • @linkpaivichit7651
    @linkpaivichit7651 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zack, your info provided, narrating, and editing really show the quality level of content you produce. I Love my Lightning and am truly thankful that you’ve developed extraordinary content of this level. I’ve never seen your vids before, nor do I know whether they’d be useful to me, but you’ve got my subscription! Have a great one!!

  • @jacksonsneed7689
    @jacksonsneed7689 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My girlfriend got her Lightning in November 2022, and I think she loves her truck more than she loves me. I'm joking of course . . . . I KNOW she does! I don't blame her, it's absolutely incredible; SO MUCH FUN TO DRIVE! 😀👍
    Great video as always Zack! Thanks brother!

  • @phakyou
    @phakyou ปีที่แล้ว +160

    9:53 Goes to show the crazy amount of engineering that goes into making these machines efficient. No one could've seen this coming 20 years ago.

    • @tschuuuls486
      @tschuuuls486 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Other than GM, that had an awesome electric car but killed it (GM EV1).

    • @randho5150
      @randho5150 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Elon saw it coming.

    • @kyohiromitsu4010
      @kyohiromitsu4010 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah for all that money i could buy a semi truck

    • @Ryan-sw3km
      @Ryan-sw3km ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@tschuuuls486 that thing was kinda a junker. The battery was crap in anything but super ideal conditions

    • @ryanvirgil1395
      @ryanvirgil1395 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      electric vehicles have always been more efficient than gas ones. This is why your gas engine gets so dang hot because it's less than 35% efficient (all waste heat). EV is like 85% efficient.

  • @CraigMatsuura
    @CraigMatsuura ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Love to see all trucks tow, especially here in Utah. Maybe try something many do where they tow there boat up to Strawberry go fishing and drive back down to the valley. I personally would like to see if a 18 to 20 bass boat (dual axle) can be towed to strawberry and back. Or a longer trip to Flaming Gorge, where you would need to charge on the way there. A boat is a bit more aerodynamic so it would be interesting, and less weight. BTW: Great job Zack!

  • @jarmis777
    @jarmis777 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    You should redo the Rivian test in this same weather. I bet they’re neck and neck! The previous winter drive in the Rivian puts it at a significant disadvantage.

    • @Aragorn450
      @Aragorn450 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The real question would be if Rivian fixed their range estimates. That was the biggest issue with the Rivian's test...

    • @jarmis777
      @jarmis777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Aragorn450 that as well

    • @ericroe
      @ericroe ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The weather I'm sure played a big part of it, but remember the Rivian is more aerodynamic than the Lightning, so the Lighting will loose slightly less range than the Rivian with the non-aerodynamic load behind it.

    • @jarmis777
      @jarmis777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericroe good point.

    • @USUG0
      @USUG0 ปีที่แล้ว

      indeed, as it always comes down to aerodynamic drag, the larger frontal area of the lighting as compared to the rivian, comes in handy when towing a brick like the hummer. Poking out slightly less.

  • @glennlisagore
    @glennlisagore ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome content, thank you Ford for the loan. Great interesting video.

  • @camonly849
    @camonly849 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Pulled my 5500lb trailer with my dad's 16 f150 2.7. Towed it 180 miles to the track, towed it back, and still had 100 more miles if not more of range.....man I love gas 🤣

    • @michaelallen2870
      @michaelallen2870 ปีที่แล้ว

      AWESOME COMMENT

    • @eagle25311
      @eagle25311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love diesel more. 600 miles of range.

    • @camonly849
      @camonly849 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ryan M ya idk if it's worth it with light weight. You might get 2 mpgs better...which isn't anything.

    • @alekseyabramchuk6718
      @alekseyabramchuk6718 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love my Cummins more

    • @camonly849
      @camonly849 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alekseyabramchuk6718 diesel is awesome, but it would upset me if I got the same mpg and am paying more in gas.

  • @investingjim2801
    @investingjim2801 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am here for the drone shots....and I am not disappointed. Those snow covered mountains!

    • @gcauldwell
      @gcauldwell ปีที่แล้ว

      Now, I MUST go back and watch the entire thing again!

  • @paramotorbrandon
    @paramotorbrandon ปีที่แล้ว +91

    1:07 well the warmer temps alone will make the range go up quite a bit. Definitely do it again with the Rivian in this weather for a good comparison!

    • @SN-hn9zi
      @SN-hn9zi ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He says that at the beginning

    • @kazzxtrismus
      @kazzxtrismus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rivian battery is heated....itll only effect the first few minutes (maybe 20 mins?)

    • @derteater
      @derteater ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@kazzxtrismus wanna tell me how they heat up the batteries?

    • @kingzach74
      @kingzach74 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kazzxtrismus That probably actually killed the range from the fact that it had to heat up the batteries.

    • @wildepawthefox
      @wildepawthefox ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kazzxtrismusWarmer air is less dense, meaning it’ll have less effects on the car. The drag in hot air is smaller than cold air. Nothing to do with heated batteries

  • @camb9319
    @camb9319 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great content as always. Love the drone shots, pretty cool being able to see portions of your drive from above and following along with Google Maps. :)

  • @Marksin866
    @Marksin866 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your voice. You have this calm voice during teardown's you don't strain or force words just smooth and and you pronounce you words on key. You make a mistake there is no silent pause no awkwardness like you meant for it. And most people like that seem emotionless when they speak but you're not. You can hear the variations and tone changes. It's a very calming voice. You would make a very good interrogator. While someone is trying to get under your skin to make themselves fire up and become defensive. You remain calm and throw them off their game. It's just WOW! Rare to hear a voice like that.

  • @bryce6870
    @bryce6870 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very insightful video! Enjoyed how you showed the reverse pilot on the Ford lighting!

  • @motorv8N
    @motorv8N ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Fantastic video thanks -must admit it went further that I thought it would. Awesome reverse assist. Been backing up trailers for close on 40 years so it doesn’t intimidate me but that’s a nice feature anyway!
    Unfortunately that truck is still way too expensive to meet my ROI expectations as a simple weekend warrior…

    • @davedavenport8673
      @davedavenport8673 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you done the Total Cost to Operate calcs? It might surprise you. Most people only calculate monthly payment since many ICE vehicles are the close to the same on other operating costs, but EVs are different. You can have higher payments because fuel is way cheaper and very little cost on maintenance.

  • @craigbucci7950
    @craigbucci7950 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Great video! The lightning did better than I thought!

    • @robertdoyle8785
      @robertdoyle8785 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't understand why the EV crowd keeps under estimating FoMoCo and GMs electric offerings. Yes, they aren't always going to be on the cutting edge of technology like a start up like Rivian or new kid on the block Tesla. But none in the world has more experience building pickups than they do.
      There is a reason Rivian made a partnership with Ford to begin with.

  • @haydenwhite2413
    @haydenwhite2413 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video about an amazing truck! I haven't needed to tow anything in mine yet, so this is very helpful info. Thanks!

  • @675daytonarider
    @675daytonarider ปีที่แล้ว +6

    According to Rivian the A/T tires rob 54 miles of range. As a fellow Rivian owner I’d be interested in those results. Love the content.

    • @hdvictoryford5329
      @hdvictoryford5329 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rivian R1T Owner's $42,000 Repair Bill - The Shocking Cost Of A Minor Fender Bender On A $73,000 Electric Truck

  • @justinsugay1149
    @justinsugay1149 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super useful. This is inspiring. Not yet ideal but not as bad as I thought. Much better actually. Same test under cold conditions would be also useful. Thank you!

    • @kennedy98796
      @kennedy98796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it would be a lot different in colder weather, even hand held lithium tools have a shorter battery when its cold

  • @MichaelSinz
    @MichaelSinz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    With out F150 Lightning and the 4-hour trailer (which is basically a big 25 foot long, 8.5 x 8.5 foot box (height and width) box (with rounded front), the big cost is aerodynamic drag on the highway. We get around 1 mile/kWh when doing long trips (just did 110 mile round trip yesterday)
    I do wish that we could get a bit more range - would need more batteries. But when you consider than the batteries in the F150 has the energy equivalent of just under 4 gallons of gasoline, that is really not a bad range while towing nearly 10,000 pounds of bulky trailer.
    (PS - aerodynamic drag is much more of an impact than weight when traveling at highway speeds)

    • @roosoorschot93
      @roosoorschot93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly! It's efficient. And refining the oil also costs a lot of energy, because it happens at a few hundred degrees.

    • @lesstevens2370
      @lesstevens2370 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would say it has the equivalent of 7 gallons of gas because of the inefficiency of gas motors only being around 30% the rest of the fuel goes out your tail pipe and your engine bay by heat

    • @MichaelSinz
      @MichaelSinz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lesstevens2370 Well, you can say that but that is not right either. Would be more like 8 if you want to count the inefficiency but then my 2500HD only got 8 mpg when towing the horse trailer which would be 64 miles with 8 gallons and yet the Ford will do 120 with the trailer at highway speeds. (Ok, the 2500HD is older and has a massive v8 gasoline engine, but still)
      The physics of gasoline is that 1 gallon of gasoline is around 33.7 kwh of energy.- thus with getting around 1 mile per kwh, the Lightning is around 33.7mpg equivalent when towing at highway speeds with that big trailer.

    • @lesstevens2370
      @lesstevens2370 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Michael Sinz I agree with your statement yet it is being manipulated by big oil and gas because of the usd being based on oil and not the gold standard so evs threatens the very thing that drives the American society and now because of corruption and greed the very thing that made America great is gone and now it's an empty shell living off its had beens for the last 50 years and that is an empty tank that is full of nothing but gas fumes that could explode any minute there is a spark of opposition

  • @thebigdogsmac11
    @thebigdogsmac11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I own a mini electric vehicle myself! Very fun to drive! It's a hoverboard! It has some power!🤣

  • @rasberry4739
    @rasberry4739 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It’s cool that your maxing out the towing and giving us the results. But most people that buy an electric truck are not towing this much. It wouldn’t mKe sense. I wanna see how far you can tow a 4000lbs travel trailer.

    • @cherrytreepermaculture756
      @cherrytreepermaculture756 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Honestly aerodynamics matter much more than weight with an EV. Check out All Electric Family.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@cherrytreepermaculture756Not just EV :P

  • @reversedon8698
    @reversedon8698 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I want to see same test 15 years later and 250k miles on the dash how it had effected the range

    • @hdvictoryford5329
      @hdvictoryford5329 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rivian R1T Owner's $42,000 Repair Bill - The Shocking Cost Of A Minor Fender Bender On A $73,000 Electric Truck

  • @colbygarrett03
    @colbygarrett03 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I pulled 10k behind a 2003 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3L and it did hurt the milage, but it didn't hurt the range that bad

    • @kosiranze
      @kosiranze ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you do realize though that mileage and range are EXACTLY proportional to eachother?

  • @Scott-sm9nm
    @Scott-sm9nm ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Incredible variety of camera angles and displays really put these videos over the top. Love the content and explanations. One thing was unclear and that is why 2 stalls needed to be taken up. Seemed like one would have fit OK.

    • @JerryRigEverything
      @JerryRigEverything  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I probably could fit in one stall... If I was more confident in my backing up skilz.

  • @TheOpinionatedYouTuber
    @TheOpinionatedYouTuber ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Zach, you are a national treasure. Your videos are always informative, entertaining, and well-produced. I love the way you use drone shots to capture the beauty of Utah, and I always learn something new from your videos.
    I'm particularly impressed by your commitment to electric vehicles. You're doing a great job of educating people about the benefits of EVs, and you're helping to make the world a better place.
    Keep up the great work, Zach! I'm a big fan of your channel, and I can't wait to see what you do next.

    • @-.-..._...-.-
      @-.-..._...-.- ปีที่แล้ว

      I also like all the other films you are in where you are a doctor, firefighter, teacher, action hero etc. You're my favorite entertainer

  • @dylandero9069
    @dylandero9069 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video test like this must be done on these electric trucks and comparisons between different brands is super important.
    Honestly my only issue with any of it is idk how anybody can justify waiting 40 minutes to get a full “tank.” Would drive me insane.

    • @crashedking1931
      @crashedking1931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and then only another 100 miles

    • @gumshoe-tech
      @gumshoe-tech ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it would add another 3 hours to a 5 hour trip for me......

    • @leerjet1868
      @leerjet1868 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about eating, and then take a shit. Read a magazine while shitting.

    • @aw9085
      @aw9085 ปีที่แล้ว

      kills me too.... maybe with the tesla chargers it will be better

  • @svdoinitright7519
    @svdoinitright7519 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I looked at trading my F150 in for a lightning. The dealer asked about mileage when towing and I told him, I go from 22MPG bare to 9.5 when towing my big motorcycle trailer. He told me that I wouldn't get more 50-75 miles when towing. You're test kind of confirms that. My trailer is lighter than your test trailer, but it is a big, flat faced, enclosed trailer, so a huge amount of wind resistance.

    • @eagle25311
      @eagle25311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup electric trucks aren't even close to getting to the hunter crowd either. You have to drive to the woods in the cold, spend several days out there, then drive back. It's gonna be a while before an electric truck can be used for hunting trips.

  • @ndafarachaitezvi1139
    @ndafarachaitezvi1139 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along

  • @brianbaker9893
    @brianbaker9893 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So, this confirms, again, towing with an EV any considerable distance would be a complete pain. Great to see a station where you can tow without disconnecting the trailer though. The torque is insane and superior here, but not realistic for vast majority of regular haulers. Will be cool to see when the energy density of batteries improves!! And that 12 seconds, nuts.

  • @paulsmyers203
    @paulsmyers203 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks a ... 5 tons for making the video! Definitely need to retest the R1T in similar conditions. Tires and temperature make an enormous difference.

  • @johnclesi3758
    @johnclesi3758 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I personally would have used chain lanyards not ratchet straps. But I would say a good review on this video.

  • @kevinpolito1529
    @kevinpolito1529 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most pickup owners (ie, not people who actually use them for work), who are all hat and no cattle, won't be bothered by not being able to do work with a truck. That's why most pickups are family station wagons with a vestigial bed that won't hold sheets of plywood or drywall.

  • @mendelmarozov888
    @mendelmarozov888 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Obviously we would want to see it for the cyber truck 😜 if it ever comes out

    • @santanat.7206
      @santanat.7206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That unibody truck ? 😂

    • @davedavenport8673
      @davedavenport8673 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@santanat.7206 We will have to wait and see what the design changes do to the original spec of 14k towing capacity for the tri-motor. Guessing that goes down.

  • @GREGHOLUB
    @GREGHOLUB ปีที่แล้ว +196

    156 miles of range … and I think these are running around $100,000 😂 that’s incredible what a bargain!

    • @robbobcat7286
      @robbobcat7286 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      love it!

    • @richardbrimage983
      @richardbrimage983 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Think I’ll keep my F350 diesel for my 12000 lb fifth wheel.

    • @davidroman1654
      @davidroman1654 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@richardbrimage983 Just replaced my 2021 Chevy 3.0 (only because it was stolen) with a new 2023 Chevy Silverado 3.0. Last summer's trip was about 3,500 miles of towing a 32' 6,800lb trailer from west Texas to Colorado Springs, Utah, Arizona and New Mexico. Averaged 13+ mpg towing. Range is about 250 or better and 10 minutes to fill up. Thanks by NO thanks with the EV for towing.
      And highway driving mileage was around 26-28 so the range was 600+ miles and again 10 minutes to fill up the tank.

    • @allaboutroofing2
      @allaboutroofing2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@davidroman1654that's great milage for towing, especially in Colorado springs and all the elevation gains. I wasn't aware they had a 3.0L, do you have any comparison to how it performed vs a V8? I'm shocked you could tow that much with such small displacement!

    • @duradim1
      @duradim1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You have to be kidding.

  • @Yielar1
    @Yielar1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the towing test video. The Lightning is an impressive truck that's for sure. I know it's more interesting to push the limits and it's nice to see but people aren't buying a Lightning to tow 10,000 lbs typically. Of course, it's nice to have the option for around town. Since most people drive 30-40 miles per day they would charge maybe once per week or so. I'm currently driving the F150 Powerboost Hybrid and I'm reallly enjoying the extra power of the electric powertrain. I may pick up the 2nd Gen Lightning when I'm in the market for my next truck. Exciting times!

    • @hdvictoryford5329
      @hdvictoryford5329 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rivian R1T Owner's $42,000 Repair Bill - The Shocking Cost Of A Minor Fender Bender On A $73,000 Electric Truck

    • @Yielar1
      @Yielar1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hdvictoryford5329 strange post. Crazy high repair bills happen every second for ice vehicles as well. Guess that's what insurance is for hey

    • @WSW0424
      @WSW0424 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you seen the new 2024 Toyota Tacoma? They moved away from the V6 to the hybridized 2.4-liter turbocharged V4 engine. Should be around 25-29 MPG (depending on if you get the TRD Pro with all terrains and other mods that effect mpg) but, they haven't released those figures yet. The TRD Pro looks badass.

  • @danielholland8255
    @danielholland8255 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool video, thanks for sharing. I a, 3 days into XLT ownership and LOVE it. I’m also a Polestar performance owner, but this trumps it with range…

  • @TheBlumfeld
    @TheBlumfeld ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would be great to have the same test with a diesel truck - as a comparison. especially in terms of efficiency and cost ...

    • @eagle25311
      @eagle25311 ปีที่แล้ว

      diesel truck blows it out of the water if you are traveling any sort of real distance. 500 to 600 miles of range and 5 minutes to refuel it. And it can still go that type of range in cold weather.

  • @Aragorn450
    @Aragorn450 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wonder if Ford will/does disable the second motor when you're at speed? It seems like it'd help give even better efficiency. From an outside view of never driving any of these, I've been happy with what Ford did with the F150 Lightning and it's great to see their software is doing so well since that's an area I'd expect an older company to do worse in actually.

    • @naarealy
      @naarealy ปีที่แล้ว

      IIRC Ford uses PM motors for both front and rear. There is no disconnect or freewheeling clutch, so essentially the motors must be powered 100% of the time. The reduction ratio is different front to rear, so the power output is shifted (slightly) front/rear depending on which motor is most efficient at a given speed/load.

  • @gregsimpson621
    @gregsimpson621 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I figured 150 miles before you started. Overall, I am impressed with this electric Ford F 150. I can see me using it to tow my favorite antique RV trailer. Great information, as usual!!! Thanks Zack!

  • @whiteknight1246
    @whiteknight1246 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love to see if you can engineer a trailer with a regen braking system for the trailer wheels, and a full solar bank on the roof that feed the EVs batteries, and see if you can significantly improve the range while towing. Because the range to charge time is a barrier to switching over from a diesel.

    • @amphedroxyn4251
      @amphedroxyn4251 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If the wheels are charging they're dragging..

    • @DinDooIt
      @DinDooIt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amphedroxyn4251 I see a lot of people not getting that point.

    • @davedavenport8673
      @davedavenport8673 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amphedroxyn4251 I believe he means regen when using a trailer brake. Trailer brake probably not used enough to justify the weight of the motor, controller and batteries though and then max load is lower with those items added to the weight of the trailer.

    • @eagle25311
      @eagle25311 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a reason electric vehicles don't have solar panels on the roof from the factory.

    • @whiteknight1246
      @whiteknight1246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eagle25311 i get that but the roof of my trailer is 28 feet long x 10 ish feet wide.the roof of the rivian is 6 feet long, and i understand that regen always isnt a thing, but i assume the e trucks have a brake controller stopping the wheels on the trailer which is energy lost to heat.

  • @MrTophr
    @MrTophr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like a spring time test is needed with the Rivian, for a more even comparison

  • @Zappy1210
    @Zappy1210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not even goin to watch this. My Uncle bought the Lightning 2 years ago... so proud of it UNTIL!!! He tried to tow his 1,100 pound camper 250 miles and it didn't even make it 150 before it died lol. He is now very proud of his new Ran 2500 diesel!

  • @antiLGTBQ
    @antiLGTBQ ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "its not sponsored, but its completely sponsored"

  • @newscoulomb3705
    @newscoulomb3705 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd be really interested to see this run in the Chevy Silverado EV when it comes out as well. If Tesla is leaning too hard on aerodynamics for their Cybertruck range, it could be the most negatively affected EV truck when it comes to towing large, heavy loads. Ultimately, it will come down to battery size, and 1 mi/kWh is pretty much my rule of thumb for fullsize EV truck efficiency when towing.

  • @alkalk8938
    @alkalk8938 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That backup assist is awesome for backing a jetski trailer, those short trailers are a PIA. With the rear camera and the backup assist it a POC...Piece Of Cake!

  • @timothyallbritton1961
    @timothyallbritton1961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am 62 years old and have bought a new Ford truck every two years since the age of 28, I have owned a considerable number of them. I also used them in my business but those were only replaced as needed. Last year a lifelong friend (Rodney) and I decided to order two Ford Lightnings at the same time, boy was that a mistake. Both trucks had terrible electrical issues from day one. Sometimes they would not take a charge, other times the battery monitoring systems gave faulty readings, and the list goes on and on. Finally, my local dealer ask if we wanted to return the trucks for my usual F250 diesel, in which I did and Rodney just returned his with a full refund. Thanks but NO THANKS :)

  • @ajstar89
    @ajstar89 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not surprised at all. Ford invested into Rivian for some of that IP they had. It makes sense they did a cut and paste on the battery management and motor control systems into an F150 and giving almost identical numbers.

  • @riparianlife97701
    @riparianlife97701 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I used to tow large loads with my diesel Duramax, over long distances, but an electric parts truck for in-town runs would have been great.

    • @forrest225
      @forrest225 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I could see an electric Nissan frontier / ford ranger equivalent being fantastic for parts store delivery trucks. They usually don’t haul much weight and typically just make a lot of short trips.
      Honestly I would love an electric car to daily, I drive 100 miles a day commuting for work.
      Hopefully when my civic dies electric cars will be a bit cheaper for something with some decent range. It’s an 18 with 100k so hopefully it has quite a bit of life left 🤞

    • @riparianlife97701
      @riparianlife97701 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@forrest225 I live on a 5 mile long island now, and ride a nice, 850cc motorcycle. I wish I had a zero fxs electric, but big shock, they hold their value too well for a used one to be affordable.

  • @Levi_Holiday
    @Levi_Holiday ปีที่แล้ว +31

    It would be cool if you could do it with the cybertruck. Can't wait.
    How many people looked at you while filming on the top of a hummer?😂

    • @kpl9439
      @kpl9439 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If they ever going to make it.

    • @Levi_Holiday
      @Levi_Holiday ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kpl9439 they will, just wait.

    • @kpl9439
      @kpl9439 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@Levi_Holiday waiting, that you most definitely will do.

  • @4ee
    @4ee ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The low range is a killer for EV trucks especially when you use it usually in rough conditions

    • @vidznstuff1
      @vidznstuff1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      30MPGe in this truck while towing 10,000 is not a killer at all. Most contractors drive 65 miles a day tops and fuel is a huge expense.

    • @JamieGuzmam
      @JamieGuzmam ปีที่แล้ว

      Evs qre trash absolutely trash

    • @cliffordmontana4562
      @cliffordmontana4562 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@vidznstuff1 Fuel is a big expense, but you can get a gas xl trim f150 for 45-50k and you have LOTS of money for gas. 10 years worth approximately. And in ten years these batteries will be toast. I’m not against electric vehicles, I’m against democrats shoving them down our throats. If you tow, take long vacations or don’t have a garage with a charger to park in, then electric vehicles are terrible.

    • @francismarion6400
      @francismarion6400 ปีที่แล้ว

      So do people charge those trucks in their garages?

    • @Subwolfer7564
      @Subwolfer7564 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cliffordmontana4562 You're against EV's. Tired of people coming out saying they hate them because of politics (nonexistent laws based on republican fearmongering tactics), then turning it around and claiming they're neutral.
      nobody has forced anything. 10 years is a very low number based on real world statistics (its cited on the right with nothing factual behind it). 45-50k is a stretch with these stealer ships

  • @paulmortensen6294
    @paulmortensen6294 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That back up assist system looked pretty cool.

  • @jeremyogburn732
    @jeremyogburn732 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cyber truck for sure. I've been saving and will trade in my WRX STI when it drops. My brother has a model 3 and will do the same. So stoked for it to come out!

  • @ralanham76
    @ralanham76 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Definitely need to retest the Rivian in the same weather, so it's an apples to apples comparison

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also maybe the Rivian wasnt switching many electric motors off while already driving! With more electric motors only used for launching the vehicle they mostly use one or two while already at speed

  • @TheRealLink
    @TheRealLink ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For some reason I thought the Lightning might do worse but still pretty neat. Please tell me you'll repeat a test like this once the Cybertruck comes out since that's really hyping up the towing capability!

  • @giannidavinci7961
    @giannidavinci7961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw someone towing 5000lbs,but it was a big un-aerodynamic trailer it only went about 100, so I guessed twice as much would be 50,but the airflow makes a huge difference

  • @unboostedpoopoo6478
    @unboostedpoopoo6478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So basically it would only take me 6 days to get home from Utah if I was towing.....awesome!

  • @GraingerProductions
    @GraingerProductions ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love your truck videos. Heck yeah to the cyber truck.

  • @AbbreviatedReviews
    @AbbreviatedReviews ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am curious what the result would be if you put a cover over the Hummer that made it more aerodynamic. I think in a future where electric trucks are common, there are going to be a lot more solutions for making payloads aerodynamic.

  • @ThePackDad
    @ThePackDad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get 250-550 miles per 34 gal tank in my '17 F350 gas 6.2L depending on towing or highway etc. It costs about $100 to fill with premium. A 1400 mile highway trip without towing could cost as little as $300 or as much as $600. An EV might be as little as $150 for the same trip. With towing, an EV could easily get up to $400+. Not yet worth the extra time to charge, but I sure wish life was slow enough that it was worth it.

  • @blitzkreg335
    @blitzkreg335 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think to make it fair you should do this test again with the Rivian. Since the seasons have changed and stuff. In my opinion it would be a fair test. Please Mister Jerry Man.

  • @dennisl6198
    @dennisl6198 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that instead of ripping on the lightning for losing range towing max weight(like everyone else), he talks about how its about the same as his Hummer EV towing nothing (what??!).
    The only real comment i want to make though is that I would have biased that hummer a little closer to the front of the flatbed, but that's because I had my whole rig destroyed due to trailer sway last year, and nobody wants to go through that, trust me.

  • @brawnto
    @brawnto ปีที่แล้ว

    IF that ever comes out, zing! Nice work, I love my Lightning Pro although I haven't towed with it yet.

  • @KevinRDunn
    @KevinRDunn ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the test. I would love a Ford Maverick Lightning. Just don't need the fullsize truck anymore.

  • @ParthPatel-lc7eq
    @ParthPatel-lc7eq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Towing 7200lbs on 2.7L f150 drops the mileage to 9 mpg which at a 23 gallon tank thats around 207 miles a full tank. So at 10000lbs I could imagine it would be similar to the f150 lightning. For those who tow. You usually dont tow 10000lbs very long distances on a f150. You would get a bigger truck or pay someone to haul it for you. For cross country towing it would most likely go on an 18 wheeler. This is the 100kwh battery back so I wonder how much more range they could get with the 131kwh battery.

  • @castlecircle7612
    @castlecircle7612 ปีที่แล้ว

    So in January in Minnesota at -10 day time high, when i haul the snowmobiles up to the cabin 180 miles away i can expect to get maybe to the end of the block. That's so awesome.
    Electric Junk.

  • @FGLKPaul
    @FGLKPaul ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love finally seeing a good towing test for the lightning!
    The parking situation at the chargers highlights the one single issue there is with towing long distance with an EV though... We need better charging infrastructure for towing with trailers!

    • @fremue9312
      @fremue9312 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only getting ~100miles is also not great for long distances. Of course it can be done but it will get pretty difficult and annoying if you have to stop ever 1.5 to 2h to charge for at least 30min. I think it’s mainly worth it for people who mostly tow stuff close to their home.

    • @jailor1869
      @jailor1869 ปีที่แล้ว

      “One single issue?”…there are too many to count

  • @gmquiroa
    @gmquiroa ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy watching your honest review. F150 Lightning Lariat owner and I like the Rivian as well.

  • @moremoney1704
    @moremoney1704 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really need to test these trucks on I-8 in So Cal, going from sea level to 4000 feet in a span of 13 miles in 95 + degrees temps!

  • @ohhman9400
    @ohhman9400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a princess truck. Who the hell would want to sit around for 40 minutes for every 100 miles? Diesel are for the people who wants to get the work done so if you're just looking to get around town this truck is for you.

  • @bryce340v8
    @bryce340v8 ปีที่แล้ว

    35-40 minutes of charge to drive 100 miles.
    So I went camping a couple weeks ago in Gray Summit MO from Cascade WI. 470 miles, 7.3 hour drive time. 32' bumper pull camper, approximately 8200lb.
    My F250 diesel got 8.44 mpg and I had to stop once for fuel, say 20 minutes. So 7.3 hr travel time.
    Ford Lightening would have to stop and charge 4 times, at 40 minutes each. So 2.7 hours in charge time. 9.7 hours travel time. Plus probably another 5 minutes per stop to get to the charge station and back on the highway, so more realistically 10 hours of travel time.
    So the drive with an EV would take approximately 27% longer.
    Then back to the charging access problem, you would either have to take up multiple charging spots and or block up the parking lot as demonstrated in this video, or you would have to disconnect and reconnect the trailer at each stop, as was demonstrated in the review by motor trend(?). Add another 15-20 minutes to each stop for disconnecting and reconnecting the trailer, and hopefully it doesn't get parked in during the meantime.
    Also, 100 miles is not very far and limits your options for stops. From my house, 100 miles would put me in the middle of Chicago. No way I would want to stop in Chicago to begin with, much less for 40+ minutes at a time. My diesel truck at 8.44 mpg has a range of 405 miles, so it is easy to plan a single stop before or after a major city.

  • @CaydenMartinIsABoss
    @CaydenMartinIsABoss ปีที่แล้ว

    “I’m not sponsored, they just let me borrow the vehicle” that’s being sponsored in my books that’s free content

  • @BourneX92
    @BourneX92 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12 sec while towing 10k lbs... that's a remarkable performance

  • @davenz000
    @davenz000 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best kind of comparison test is one where the conditions are different.....yeah.

  • @droomagon
    @droomagon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the thing about cybertruck, its not about IF it comes out, its about IF u can get it

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious ปีที่แล้ว

      nah, it's vaporware, it will never exist.

  • @TexasGTO
    @TexasGTO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The backup trailer assist is purely a gimmick. Backing up a trailer is extremely easy.

  • @colinanderson3757
    @colinanderson3757 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can set it to regen as soon as your foot comes off the gas. Its a setting.

  • @AdamDavisEE
    @AdamDavisEE ปีที่แล้ว

    Some paint durability tests would be nice. "Light scratches at 4, deeper grooves at 6..." ;)

  • @johnbuck6685
    @johnbuck6685 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Go get an old 12 valve Cummins and you’ll be home with your boots off having a whiskey while this guy is sitting getting recharged to go another 10 miles

  • @linuxdragon57
    @linuxdragon57 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't want it to, but you made the F150 Lightning look pretty sweet. Kachow.

  • @amyk8488
    @amyk8488 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your voice is the best. You could get paid to do commercials. Thanks for this video. Appreciate it

  • @garysgarage.2841
    @garysgarage.2841 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the most unbiased review of a none sponsored product I've ever seen.😂

  • @ericblanchard5873
    @ericblanchard5873 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes do the tow test with the Cybertruck. I am just about last in line to get my Cybertruck(2-3 years after everyone else). I def want the 3-4 motor version with like 500 miles range. Can't wait, but only if I can come up with the funds, I am super poor and about to be homeless and already disabled, wish I could win a small lotto to just get an e-truck to live in and use to tow short ranges for a living but I have to live in this world where that stuff doesn't happen to people like me. Anyways, your videos make my day. Thank you very much! I love to watch everthing electrified from e-bikes/e-scooters to e-planes/manned drones etc. And even a green type e-house lol ps: your hummer is sooooo cool, I always wanted that style hummer. Good luck to your many more videos to come.

  • @enesfazlic6017
    @enesfazlic6017 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ooo we have seen how this ended up with Hovie doing the test. But im watching this thest to see the result now

  • @scottgridley477
    @scottgridley477 ปีที่แล้ว

    I happened to be eating lunch with my wife the day this was filmed and happened to see you from about 100 yards away. I didn't even realize you were in a Ford Lightning. Cool video.

  • @TheeAuThEnTiCcC
    @TheeAuThEnTiCcC ปีที่แล้ว

    A WDH(Weight Distribution Hitch) doesn't spread the weight of the trailer over the trailer frame LOL!!! It spreads the weight of the trailer on the truck. Meaning, it takes weight off the rear axle and transfers it to the front axle.

  • @mxracer158
    @mxracer158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So drive 100 miles with a load, wait 45 minutes ish for a recharge. Wash rinse repeat.
    You'll reach your goal sometime next week.
    Sorry ain't sold on it.

  • @GetGoodGaming69
    @GetGoodGaming69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very impressed by what Ford has built i need that truck

  • @aserta
    @aserta 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching this back, it should be a feature that you could buy regen trailers that are accepted by electric trucks as input. A regen only unit would be much simpler, and a trailer doesn't care about unsprung weight as much as a car.

  • @traviszelmer7693
    @traviszelmer7693 ปีที่แล้ว

    I respect the tie down straps being properly looped and secured so they're not blowing in the wind. That makes my inner farm boy proud 🫡

  • @7stringjazz1
    @7stringjazz1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah no thanks. Try it again in 18 months when the range is 75miles and then talk to me.

  • @stampedetrail2003
    @stampedetrail2003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cybertruck... if that ever comes out! You are the Final Boss, sir.

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious ปีที่แล้ว

      cybertruck is vaporware, it will never exist.

  • @yo.adrian
    @yo.adrian ปีที่แล้ว

    First, it was Tyler Hoover of Hoovies Garage, and now Zack of JerryRigEverything is turning into a towing TH-cam channel.

  • @Mrblueridgeman
    @Mrblueridgeman ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually a weight distribution hitch is primarily to move some weight from the truck rear wheels to the front wheels….and the trailer wheels