That one tank shot in the final game tho... Pretty amazing series, one of the best I’ve seen. Two inhumanly good players, so evenly matched... 👏 Bravo 👏
Damn, a couple crucial mistakes really cost Rogue that last game. First, he really should have broken all the destructible rocks near his base. The big mistake though is at the 7:10 mark. Maru picks up his army to re-position, and Rogue misreads this as Maru going back home, so he builds 8 drones (he was already up by 15 workers and a base), stops making banelings and throws down a Hydra den. He really needed those to be 16 zerglings, and to morph in like 10 more banelings (he is actually floating a bunch of resources at that point, so he easily could have still thrown down the hydra den) I think he just really misread how much Maru had cut his economy to put on pressure and thought that it was over since he killed the tanks. The single tank shot that killed 7 banelings was unfortunate, but even after that Rogue could have gotten into the midgame with a slight edge if he just hadn't made that one extra wave of drones.
adib z been following since slayer boxers days beb... Tak sabar nak tengok finals, i predict mesti TY vs Maru, tapi i tak suka tengok mirror match, so i harap final antara maru vs dear.
Yeah, got like 7 banelings with that last tank volley. I think though even with those banelings its not a sure hold. He also needed to aggressively keep the creep going out there...that Maru push was so strong...
Haven't played starcaft II in over a year, so what's up with those zergs glowing red and taking almost no damage ? I've searched a lil, and found nothing from the infestors/queens/corruptors, where's that coming from ? It looks ridiculously OP from my POV.
Before they did 30 dmg plus the admor reduction with the anti armor missile, now they did 15 dmg and the reduction so you would need to mass them in order to destroy anything with them making them pretty useless late game which is where they should appear actually, specially since they require energy to work. At most they work as support for mass marines reducing the enemy armor or to stop some disruptors in TvP matches.
adib z I hate to rain on your parade, sir, but I believe it's due to him rapid-firing the 'make baneling' hotkey. That happens when Zergs remax as well. I've been wondering for years how Zergs have 150% of my apm in diamond league for a while.
Rogue the best player in the world. Last season held back by 1 zergling, this season by 1 tank shot. Luck is still alive in SC2; but Maru is also a god.
naah, Maru is in top form, that kid improved so much, Rogue is a hard worker, he get the results eventually. scaring thing is when a talented kid like Maru starts to hit the top practise levels.. you see the result
Scarlett is a very good player particularly when she is not tilted...but she is easily tilted...and don't forget that was a best of 3, where more upsets can happen. Scarlett had a very aggressive style back then that many top Korean Pros were not ready for, and ZvZ I feel has a lot more upsets because once you get slightly ahead in something, the advantage just starts stacking up...and it feels like smaller mistakes can be punished. All players are human after all... Bottom line, if Scarlett and Rogue played a best of 7 I think Rogue would of won. Not taking anything away from Scarlett though, she had a very good run around that time and even won an IEM convincingly vs sOs!
Scarlett's been lagging hard in ZvZ lately though. I don't know if it was balance changes or if the pros have learned to play against her style but she's been getting thrashed in tournaments lately. Seems like she reliably makes it to ro16 and then gets 3-0'd.
Something is wrong if at 1:06 Maru just got done creaming Rogue's workers for the third time, killing TONS of them, and he's right back at same supply and same number of workers and same army supply. Zerg is bs.
You know players are bad if you can make that many and win. In today's games teansitions are alot tighter and they normally sacrifice little by little to transition. You can see the difference in that if you compare top koreans and serral to other players
"Reapers are to hard to counter, I want my first two expansions to be easy" reapers get nerfed. "Seeker mines are too hard to outmicro" Ravens get nerfed. "My cheap lings aren't doing enough damage" mothership core gets taken out of the game.. Is blizzard infested by complaining Zerg players, or just pushed around by them..
I just have to say...wow...its unbelievable how good both of these guys are...but seems like early game Maru late game Rogue...at least for this series. I never noticed how important creep and every single baneling is (as well as bane speed) until this series...surviving that Maru push is a tightrope. Forgot one additional key detail that could have swung it in Rogues favor that the casters pointed out is the early overlord speed. The resources could of been put into an earlier third as they pointed out and I think they are right...means the creep could of been further out, more units, more macro, etc. So yeah, a lot of things, but does anyone think that too many things need to go right for Rogue to hold that push!? Any very good players here that can explain for example, what danger maru is in if Rogue holds the push? Just seems like such a strong push...
Rogue also made the banelings too late, as Artosis was asking; he had quite some gas banked up and lings not really fighting on the left side, although with the creeped pushed back so far into Rogue's base, Maru can probably still kite pretty effectively (and baneling speed wasn't finished either)
@47:00 That's what a burrowed Ultralisk looks like take it in Tasteless. Ask me why Tasteosis were the greatest commentary duo of all time. I dare you.
That last game reminds me of the byun build (2 medivac stim), good job maru. Thats how we terrans win in tvz. Its early to mid game beat em zerg or bust.
Maru will only even be able to beat Rogue with cheeses. Rogue is such the better player glad he will take out another world final when the cheese slides off and gets figured out.
Rogue is so good! I believe that he would have taken it if he passed Maru. I hope that Maru will perform as good as Rogue would. Last time Maru lost to Rogue 2-3, Rogue ended up taking the whole thing by DESTROYING 3-0 -if I remember correctly- the second Classic, it wasn't even close...
A lot of split banelings or roachs can work, actually roachs can go underground and appear at their side with the righ upgrades. Tanks is pretty much the only really useful unit agains armies outside marines and marauders in middle and late game, specially since they nerfed the raven just when it started to have some worth.
I'm not sure how anyone can consciously lie to themselves while arrogantly lying out loud in saying that Zerg isn't op, much less underpowered(?). Both of these players are clearly on the same level, and in many cases I would say Maru is quicker to react, better at micro in combat, and on par with apm to rogue/serral and yet finds himself wedged into a endless spam wave Zerg swarm and depleting his entire resource pool, while rogue happily sits on a massive bank mid-game. Maru tediously splits units/hot key targets banes, recovering as many support units as possible for the next fight and loosing the resources necessary to sustain fights, and Rogue simply dips into his bank, mass spam banes, attack command.. Rinse and repeat washing over with wave after wave of easily replaceable units and almost no micro necessary. The only match that absolutely tested Rogues micro ability was the one he hung in after loosing 28 drones midgame. !28 drones! already countered Zerg army composition and a hard fight still for Terran? Once again Rogue is unreal but still that sounds pretty one-sided.
It is impossible to win late game for Terran on even ground with broodlord and queen combo healing, I think the only fix is longer ghost range to snipe broodlord or longer emp range for queen. This allows Viking o have a chance to engage with the broodlord and corruptor.
yea, just to lose to an ultra switch. With the remax rate that zerg has if you overbuild vikings the switch will kill you 100%. Ghosts are the only way due to raven nerf, but the interrupt makes them as good or even worse than vikings if opponent has infestors...
Imagin if guys like them be a CEO of a/the idea that could change the world! They fu***ing good, and fast and smart on what they do, we(the world) need ideas!
Agree, is too hard to win late game now as terran, specially agains zerg while Prottoss have disfruptor that blow away ground armies so only those with a master like micro can fight them if they have fast units and even them most of the time is still hard for them to advance so less skilled players don't have a chance.
Its almost like ANTI ARMOR missile is not supposed to kill units outright... how could this be D: unfair design! terrans needs more instant free aoe damage! their faction really does not have enough AOE damage already!
his down so much that he should have lost long ago. thinking ravens should make up for worse play the entire way through is just silly and in the cases when they do just show how ridiculous OP mass raven+mass ghost and 16-20 marines or other dps in super late game truly is.
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I'm pretty sure Maru and Rogue are the two best players this season. Wish they had met in the finals instead of here.
That one tank shot in the final game tho... Pretty amazing series, one of the best I’ve seen. Two inhumanly good players, so evenly matched... 👏 Bravo 👏
An instant classic, this series was a testament to the skill of both these players
Wow.. this should've been the finals with how these two monsters played out of their minds. Jin air team looking like Golden State
Sick game 2. One of the best game for this year!
This is one of those insane games I had to come back and watch again
They fight back in Bo7 matches for the first time on this coming Thursday.
@@penganjurcarikdrama880 That will be a must watch for sure!
Damn, a couple crucial mistakes really cost Rogue that last game. First, he really should have broken all the destructible rocks near his base. The big mistake though is at the 7:10 mark. Maru picks up his army to re-position, and Rogue misreads this as Maru going back home, so he builds 8 drones (he was already up by 15 workers and a base), stops making banelings and throws down a Hydra den. He really needed those to be 16 zerglings, and to morph in like 10 more banelings (he is actually floating a bunch of resources at that point, so he easily could have still thrown down the hydra den) I think he just really misread how much Maru had cut his economy to put on pressure and thought that it was over since he killed the tanks. The single tank shot that killed 7 banelings was unfortunate, but even after that Rogue could have gotten into the midgame with a slight edge if he just hadn't made that one extra wave of drones.
Great insight
And that is the beauty of StarCraft.. it's a game of incomplete information and capitalising on your opponents mistakes; Maru just made less of them.
Wow, that was one of the best games i've ever seen.
14:00
24:42
59:19
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1:44:36
Thank you!
Such great games... Rogue was impressive. I sometimes think he has some extra hands, it is so hard to play that late game with zerg.
Rogue is so good, Rogue is a god, no other zerg can do this (oh hey maru won that game) but wow Rogue looks so good!
Prime jaedong does...
I agree completely! Especially with how scary Maru is late-game.
@@mrdoctor3496 no
Rogue is such a God!!! I used to think Dark was the shit... But rogue is on another lvl
If in the ultimate game,in the league dark is the best Z,but if in the tournament Dark always lose,i think he is the same with Savior,so sad
Wow another malaysian? I thought I the only one who follow starcraft in malaysia lol
adib z been following since slayer boxers days beb... Tak sabar nak tengok finals, i predict mesti TY vs Maru, tapi i tak suka tengok mirror match, so i harap final antara maru vs dear.
Another Malaysian here. Woohoo
Too bad there is no sea server for sc
How do you beat Terran as Zerg? You can't drop them or do ling run by's because they have turrets and the planetary fortress.
1:51:19 game changing moment
Yeah, got like 7 banelings with that last tank volley. I think though even with those banelings its not a sure hold. He also needed to aggressively keep the creep going out there...that Maru push was so strong...
Maru dealt with the counter very well. I really wanted Rogue to win, but Maru is just too good.
Rogue had 1k+ in the bank during the last push at some point. A huge amount for that early. He lost because of macro, like all of us most of the time.
He might've been saving money while looking for an opening to morph a lot of banelings but Maru never gave him that opening.
@@carvaonline rogue gave the game to maru. 1k M and 500G and made no banes v pure marine. you cant do that in master league and get away with it.
Such a great series! This could easily be the gsl finals of this year unfortunately they met in ro8 tough.
1:30:30 why would map makers credit a ledge exclusivelyfor terrain siege tank abuse?
Maru with the brutal 2-1-1!!!!
Can someone link me to the brackets to see the results of this tourney? I have been having trouble to find it
These guys aren't humans.
Do you assume their species?
Haven't played starcaft II in over a year, so what's up with those zergs glowing red and taking almost no damage ? I've searched a lil, and found nothing from the infestors/queens/corruptors, where's that coming from ? It looks ridiculously OP from my POV.
They call that spell nerfing, it can only be casted by enemy terran
That game 2 was awesome! Ling, bane, muta brought me to the old days of wings of liberty!
seeing starcraft again makes me itch to play again,but I wonder if there are SC3 soon.
WC4 first pls.
Do they ever do 2v2 tournaments? Id like to see these two as a team
49:38 whats happening there with the lings?
what song is @1:18:30 ?
26:50 drone bug?
Summary of the commentary: Rogue is so good, Rogue is a god, no other zerg can do this (oh hey maru won that game) but wow Rogue looks so good!
It is kind of what happened though...Rogue and Stats basically lost in the most likely way they will lose.
Yama Dori I still can't get over stats' loss. I was so shocked
Well Rogue outplayed Maru in macro games but Terran has so many midgame pushes that can work for them and Maru abused that.
exactly
Their commentary was excellent. Considering rogue is top two Zerg on earth, their praise of Maru was absolutely adequate.
Banes are op... Am I accurate or butthurt? Discuss below... :)
… 16 AA missiles hit and the Broodlords are still at 4/5ths health...
when is the second quarter final?
can anyone tell me whats the song of the opening that starts around 00:16 ?
darude - sandstorm
Yo Liquipedia! Don't display who wins in the same link as the video, display them separately!
What was the song at 1:52:22
NateWantsToBattle - Dream Alone
Ravens got nerfed?
Before they did 30 dmg plus the admor reduction with the anti armor missile, now they did 15 dmg and the reduction so you would need to mass them in order to destroy anything with them making them pretty useless late game which is where they should appear actually, specially since they require energy to work. At most they work as support for mass marines reducing the enemy armor or to stop some disruptors in TvP matches.
The match with the 16 Brood lords, one of the most tense moments in sc2
oh, nice music from 12:00, anyone knows this song?
darude - sandstorm
Rogue 1000 APM @ 1:41:08
adib z I hate to rain on your parade, sir, but I believe it's due to him rapid-firing the 'make baneling' hotkey. That happens when Zergs remax as well. I've been wondering for years how Zergs have 150% of my apm in diamond league for a while.
It's still funny
It's when you hold morph bane key, seen it on a couple streams and heard some streamers talk about it, it's funny :D
Pretty much. Rogue refuse to die
IIkingdomII u forreal stfu
jeeezus, these guys are next level
that first one is one of the best matches ive seen
game two shows you how shitty anti armor missile are now. Why was it nerfed anyone know?
Rogue the best player in the world.
Last season held back by 1 zergling, this season by 1 tank shot. Luck is still alive in SC2; but Maru is also a god.
Member when the reaper used to kill 4 drones? xD
the music is way to loud
artosis was impressive. he correctly called out the match, game changing moment when those 6 banelings got pooned.
I had to rewind a couple times to even realize what he was talking about. I guess that's why I'm not a pro Starcraft 2 player.
1:37:56 the Tank was like "huh, which bane do you want to target again?"
Maru the Machine
Maru on game 1: beauty!
Don't know why but somehow Rogue performs better in bigger tourneys . Maybe the bigger the prize money the more motivation from Rogue to succeed
naah, Maru is in top form, that kid improved so much, Rogue is a hard worker, he get the results eventually. scaring thing is when a talented kid like Maru starts to hit the top practise levels.. you see the result
Didn’t Scarlett knock out Rogue last season?
Yep
During the days when his performance is not a god level.
Also Scarlett is excellent at cheesing; his late game vs Dark or Rouge is slacking.
Scarlett is a very good player particularly when she is not tilted...but she is easily tilted...and don't forget that was a best of 3, where more upsets can happen. Scarlett had a very aggressive style back then that many top Korean Pros were not ready for, and ZvZ I feel has a lot more upsets because once you get slightly ahead in something, the advantage just starts stacking up...and it feels like smaller mistakes can be punished. All players are human after all...
Bottom line, if Scarlett and Rogue played a best of 7 I think Rogue would of won. Not taking anything away from Scarlett though, she had a very good run around that time and even won an IEM convincingly vs sOs!
Scarlett's been lagging hard in ZvZ lately though. I don't know if it was balance changes or if the pros have learned to play against her style but she's been getting thrashed in tournaments lately. Seems like she reliably makes it to ro16 and then gets 3-0'd.
Rogue is god!
And Maru king of the gods
Something is wrong if at 1:06 Maru just got done creaming Rogue's workers for the third time, killing TONS of them, and he's right back at same supply and same number of workers and same army supply. Zerg is bs.
"16 broodlords being morphed is probably most broods I've ever seen" *10 years ago Nestea builds like 25 at a time lol.
You know players are bad if you can make that many and win. In today's games teansitions are alot tighter and they normally sacrifice little by little to transition. You can see the difference in that if you compare top koreans and serral to other players
"Reapers are to hard to counter, I want my first two expansions to be easy" reapers get nerfed. "Seeker mines are too hard to outmicro" Ravens get nerfed. "My cheap lings aren't doing enough damage" mothership core gets taken out of the game.. Is blizzard infested by complaining Zerg players, or just pushed around by them..
Rogue i can't believe that,you and Dark made me so sad
Cant be wasting that much supply on ravens any more, just have a couple for the armour debuff ... that definitely handicapped maru in game 2
I just have to say...wow...its unbelievable how good both of these guys are...but seems like early game Maru late game Rogue...at least for this series. I never noticed how important creep and every single baneling is (as well as bane speed) until this series...surviving that Maru push is a tightrope.
Forgot one additional key detail that could have swung it in Rogues favor that the casters pointed out is the early overlord speed. The resources could of been put into an earlier third as they pointed out and I think they are right...means the creep could of been further out, more units, more macro, etc.
So yeah, a lot of things, but does anyone think that too many things need to go right for Rogue to hold that push!? Any very good players here that can explain for example, what danger maru is in if Rogue holds the push? Just seems like such a strong push...
Rogue also made the banelings too late, as Artosis was asking; he had quite some gas banked up and lings not really fighting on the left side, although with the creeped pushed back so far into Rogue's base, Maru can probably still kite pretty effectively (and baneling speed wasn't finished either)
@47:00 That's what a burrowed Ultralisk looks like take it in Tasteless.
Ask me why Tasteosis were the greatest commentary duo of all time. I dare you.
12:16 Maru's winrate vs. Zerg for 2018 :O Holy ****
Maru vs Rogue... final anticipada
Imagine Maru stuttersteppin in the wars to come. :)
Watching it from the future
1:57:33 Artosis curse at it's finest.
아프리카 한국어도 빨리 못올리나? 진짜 너무하네
That last game reminds me of the byun build (2 medivac stim), good job maru. Thats how we terrans win in tvz. Its early to mid game beat em zerg or bust.
GOOOOOOOOO MARU!!!!!!!
25:46
Reft side bracket, a bit on the nose man.
미쳤다 진짜로.....
25:20 wow this is simply amazing, i'll hang this in my room if i could this adept look just perfect
G1 those tanks were so sick
Maru will only even be able to beat Rogue with cheeses. Rogue is such the better player glad he will take out another world final when the cheese slides off and gets figured out.
Rogue is so good! I believe that he would have taken it if he passed Maru. I hope that Maru will perform as good as Rogue would. Last time Maru lost to Rogue 2-3, Rogue ended up taking the whole thing by DESTROYING 3-0 -if I remember correctly- the second Classic, it wasn't even close...
20:56 The Great Queen Massace
Gyuri 😍
14:00 games begin
Thank me later
Crazy games
Those tank placements in the series are way too abusive.... I have no Idea how zergs are supposed to defend against that early game without mutas.
A lot of split banelings or roachs can work, actually roachs can go underground and appear at their side with the righ upgrades. Tanks is pretty much the only really useful unit agains armies outside marines and marauders in middle and late game, specially since they nerfed the raven just when it started to have some worth.
First game was amazing
Maru.... 👍👍
Like... when a tank shot decides everything
ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 힘내요 ㅜㅜ고그
Wow, i saw the 2 hours, for that final hahaahah fuking Maru, he's too good
I'm not sure how anyone can consciously lie to themselves while arrogantly lying out loud in saying that Zerg isn't op, much less underpowered(?). Both of these players are clearly on the same level, and in many cases I would say Maru is quicker to react, better at micro in combat, and on par with apm to rogue/serral and yet finds himself wedged into a endless spam wave Zerg swarm and depleting his entire resource pool, while rogue happily sits on a massive bank mid-game. Maru tediously splits units/hot key targets banes, recovering as many support units as possible for the next fight and loosing the resources necessary to sustain fights, and Rogue simply dips into his bank, mass spam banes, attack command.. Rinse and repeat washing over with wave after wave of easily replaceable units and almost no micro necessary. The only match that absolutely tested Rogues micro ability was the one he hung in after loosing 28 drones midgame. !28 drones! already countered Zerg army composition and a hard fight still for Terran? Once again Rogue is unreal but still that sounds pretty one-sided.
Yea, Zerg must be OP, thats why there was only 1 in the round of 8, and he was the first to lose. So OP. Fuckwad.
Maru my boy!! Win it all!
It is impossible to win late game for Terran on even ground with broodlord and queen combo healing, I think the only fix is longer ghost range to snipe broodlord or longer emp range for queen. This allows Viking o have a chance to engage with the broodlord and corruptor.
revolutionalist viking still do tons of dame to broodlord , maru just doesnt build them enough to def
yea, just to lose to an ultra switch. With the remax rate that zerg has if you overbuild vikings the switch will kill you 100%. Ghosts are the only way due to raven nerf, but the interrupt makes them as good or even worse than vikings if opponent has infestors...
revolutionalist Vikings are shit. Could do with a buff.
10hp buff isn't enough.
No... Ghost extremely op as is
wow maru is really short
gyuri is like 5 inches taller than him . and i dont think she is super tall.
Maru did not look comfortable taking that win from Rogue... awkward house coming soon
1:54:37 english the fuck?
Imagin if guys like them be a CEO of a/the idea that could change the world! They fu***ing good, and fast and smart on what they do, we(the world) need ideas!
Forget apm. They r AIs
27:58 dat laugh doe
Please stop using the word like in almost every sentence. It has, like, no semantic value.
Nice game.... gooooo maru!!!
Maru VS Rogue? I am ok with this, provided that Rogue wins. :)
That hero tank.
TASTELESS WITH THE HOMELESS BEARD
Nerf Maru please Kappa
Honestly... it is so stupid from Blizzard... what terrans should play in late game now?!
Agree, is too hard to win late game now as terran, specially agains zerg while Prottoss have disfruptor that blow away ground armies so only those with a master like micro can fight them if they have fast units and even them most of the time is still hard for them to advance so less skilled players don't have a chance.
When will they finally decide to buff bcs? Terran lategame unit is sitting right there it just needs to be made viable.
1:53:27 EG :))
NERD CHILLS
Its almost like ANTI ARMOR missile is not supposed to kill units outright... how could this be D: unfair design! terrans needs more instant free aoe damage! their faction really does not have enough AOE damage already!
Holy crap the micro... Hooooly crapppppp
Don't actually like Maru's playstyle that much. Disappointed
kowalityjesus if ravens werent nerfed not only maru but the rest of terran players will play lategame that is assured.
Spoilers! Ravens are shit, terran has no late game and this series is kinda awesome...
his down so much that he should have lost long ago.
thinking ravens should make up for worse play the entire way through is just silly and in the cases when they do just show how ridiculous OP mass raven+mass ghost and 16-20 marines or other dps in super late game truly is.
I don't know, man. A few templars, disrupters or vipers can really turn a game. A few ravens are waste of money.