Starcraft politics going on in the comment board. XD I'm glad the folks at Blizzard are responsible for balancing this game, rather than a bunch players who play second fiddle and think that they are impervious to losing unless it's a balance issue. Those who say this 3-0 demonstrates the TvP imbalance, then what about Byun's 2-0 victory over Stats (arguably the most successful Protoss player in the world) in his previous match? If there are truly balance issues, bottom echelon nerds from the comment board wouldn't be able to bring them into the light.
Ya, the reapers I get it, but did you see the match between Maru and Rogue? Late game Terran in broken now, because of Ravens getting nerfed, and then the early game terrains are broken too, because reapers got nerfed. So the only time the Terran has to win against a Zerg or a Protoss opponent is in the mid game, or get crushed.
That doesn't mean that Blizzard doesn't overreact on the nerfs sometimes. I remember in Wings of Liberty when they overreacted and nuked the Snipe ability without bothering to test it and it's taken them this long to make the ability good again.
i still feel like they should stop patching the game. i think this year or next would be about time where we need to see it stop and let long term "imbalances" figured out
Classic's pretty average, as far as I'm aware. She's probably wearing heels while Classic is likely wearing comfortable shoes like sneakers - nothing with raised heels, thick soles, etc.
She is probably wearing a few inches under the heel as well as being slighly above average female Korean height. Heels are basically like being on tippy toes, which can make a significant difference side by side someone in flats.
pir lgun As Artosis said Classic plays off three gates and builds units whereas traditionally Protoss players usually have an earlier gateway explosion but less units. Byun keeps on attacking into a protoss with equal army supply early on even when he pokes in and sees the sheer amount of units waiting he just looks for another angle of attack and it never works. He needed more finese in his playstyle he never adapted.
I wonder if we'll see a unit nerfed because classic gets 100% winrate vs terrans, I mean reapers were nerfed twice because of one person, but in reverse it's apparently no problem... Gotta wonder sometimes.
Collosus, adept, Templar energy, zealot , stalker armor dmg, Oracle, and plenty more nerfs has happened to protoss. Point is, blizzard has made nerfs to all races but don't ignore how good some players are (classic). StarCraft is more of a skill game than balance.
Yes everything has been nerfed at some point in this nearly decade-old game. Everyone knows that Protoss has it easier than the other two races and always has.
Yes everything has been nerfed at some point in this nearly decade-old game. Everyone knows that Terran has it easier than the other two races and always has.
Ow you mean the guy they actually made the patched against right? Byun's godlike reaper play was a direct result of him being godlike with them... Reapers weren't buffed if anything so patch terran is quite a wrong thing to say.
@ IAMCOW, the patch was literally meant for him! They nerfed the reaper specifically for him, twice. That should say enough. Also getting round of 8 isn't top tier anymore, lol you have some weird logic to what is toptier...
tobiasL1991 hes been good for like 5 months of his 7 year career. He's been a ro32 player most of his career. He's phenomenal at micro but thats about it.
Protoss nerfed when? Sick of seeing toss just a-move across the map and win against much better players. ByuN picks off a warp prism with three HT inside of it, which would be a crippling blow to any Terran or Zerg army losing that many keystone units at once, and it doesn't matter because Classic just attack-moves at ByuN with chargelots and blink stalkers. How about Widow Mines made less shit, too?
omg widow mines are serioulsy weird now. They are too easy to dodge, spot and kill....you can get lucky but thats really it just luck no skill. When he dropped in the probe line he was lucky to get that many kills. They really need to rethink the widow mines to make it a unit worth getting. To me byun lost because he focused on window mines...they do nothing but take up minerals and soak up a few shots.
Stating someone a-moved and won when that's clearly what didn't happen (haven't seen a single game in any match up won by simply a-moved) just disrespects the player.
byun throwing he did not make ravens any game and proxied in the 2nd game Classic played clean and byun if he made Raven's OP spell and EMP all the units classic made would get deleted. i think he's hiding those op buffs here in this series beating stats with every buff terran got, and now just not even trying to make raven's I see what he's doing here. sOs and stats lost for a reason the buffs terran got are a bit too much..
Look at Maru vs Rogue even with mass seeker missiles, it didn't even make a proper dent on Rogue's Corruptor-Broodlord clump. The only probably unintentional throw here was at 3rd game when Byun had pain issues with his hands and wrist. After they resumed the game you can see Byun suddenly become a bit more passive then how he usually plays. He was probably just trying to "finish the race" at that point.
Ravens got nerfed really hard dude - maybe a little too hard, even. Seeker missile does 15 dmg now, down from 30. Maru actually lost a game to Rogue because he tried to do old style Raven spam against Broodlord-Corruptor and got thrashed. Dude would dump like 10+ missiles into a blob of Broodlords and barely get them to like 1/3, then Rogue would just patch them up with transfuse like nothing happened. Seeker missile nerf needed to happen and I'm glad it did, old Raven spam style was boring af to watch. Maybe they should've made Auto-Turrets a bit better to compensate, though.
David Carper Yeah dude, Zerg players should never have to micro or split armies at all. It's a shame Terrans think they should be able to counter Brood-Corrupter.
I think zergs, protoss, and terran should all have to split there armies I've played since wol & All these extra spell n buffs they've added to T is effecting protoss in pvt and it sucks cause Zerg is already strong pvz broods, banes, hydra
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The Byun double mine flank vs high templar in prism was genius
Byun still hasn't figured out when to stop attacking, so frustrating to watch.
This was sad to watch, especially since I was rooting for Byun.
game 1 start: 12:45
This has been my favourite match up of the series
Shame something happened to byuns hand. It looked like game 3 was gonna be the best one of the series
Artosis freaked me out when he said watch this at 3 am on your phone.
Thank god i am watching this at 1:15 am on my phone
could be very helpfull to see the healthbars and tasks of BOTH sides
52:56 for the Banjo (from Banjo-Kazooie) sound.
Starcraft politics going on in the comment board. XD I'm glad the folks at Blizzard are responsible for balancing this game, rather than a bunch players who play second fiddle and think that they are impervious to losing unless it's a balance issue. Those who say this 3-0 demonstrates the TvP imbalance, then what about Byun's 2-0 victory over Stats (arguably the most successful Protoss player in the world) in his previous match? If there are truly balance issues, bottom echelon nerds from the comment board wouldn't be able to bring them into the light.
One of the most sensible comments I've seen so far
finally someone talking with over 100 IQ
Ya, the reapers I get it, but did you see the match between Maru and Rogue? Late game Terran in broken now, because of Ravens getting nerfed, and then the early game terrains are broken too, because reapers got nerfed. So the only time the Terran has to win against a Zerg or a Protoss opponent is in the mid game, or get crushed.
That doesn't mean that Blizzard doesn't overreact on the nerfs sometimes. I remember in Wings of Liberty when they overreacted and nuked the Snipe ability without bothering to test it and it's taken them this long to make the ability good again.
i still feel like they should stop patching the game. i think this year or next would be about time where we need to see it stop and let long term "imbalances" figured out
Classic is quite short, or is that girl just tall?
Classic's pretty average, as far as I'm aware. She's probably wearing heels while Classic is likely wearing comfortable shoes like sneakers - nothing with raised heels, thick soles, etc.
She is probably wearing a few inches under the heel as well as being slighly above average female Korean height. Heels are basically like being on tippy toes, which can make a significant difference side by side someone in flats.
When she interviews Maru it's like she's standing on a chair
Byun tried to recall in game 3 and ended up producing a reaper! 55:17
What happend to byun? :(
byun hand cant feel sorry for my english
Protoss LUL
Well its obvious.. Diffrent hair dye 😁
pir lgun As Artosis said Classic plays off three gates and builds units whereas traditionally Protoss players usually have an earlier gateway explosion but less units. Byun keeps on attacking into a protoss with equal army supply early on even when he pokes in and sees the sheer amount of units waiting he just looks for another angle of attack and it never works. He needed more finese in his playstyle he never adapted.
he injured his wrist... hope he's fine
I wonder if we'll see a unit nerfed because classic gets 100% winrate vs terrans, I mean reapers were nerfed twice because of one person, but in reverse it's apparently no problem...
Gotta wonder sometimes.
Blizzard nerf Toss? LUL
Collosus, adept, Templar energy, zealot , stalker armor dmg, Oracle, and plenty more nerfs has happened to protoss. Point is, blizzard has made nerfs to all races but don't ignore how good some players are (classic). StarCraft is more of a skill game than balance.
Yes everything has been nerfed at some point in this nearly decade-old game. Everyone knows that Protoss has it easier than the other two races and always has.
Yes everything has been nerfed at some point in this nearly decade-old game. Everyone knows that Terran has it easier than the other two races and always has.
@ Harambe, yeah and half the units you mention were OP when they were first introduced, or have been given so much utility to make up for any nerf.
I love how at the end it becomes commentating and giving factoids on ergonomics xD
so can terrans get a storm equivalent unit?
진짜 오늘의 변현우는 마치 mmr 4500대 테란같았다
Classic was the better player here, but i still think PvT is in Protoss favor since...... 2010 or 2011. Yeah, must be atleast some years now.
I heve seen Oracle killing Viking i think I saw everything!!!
Byun is just a cool dude
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김현 아 댓글로 대놓고 스포하지마
김도우 턱이 아르타니스의 턱이기 때문입니다
"byun has the best micro in the world"... if you disregard his widow mine, siege tank, and liberator control lol
Byun got his has handed to him this game.
Glad good ol protoss can loss 17 workers and still be ahead in every way.
Yah smarta$$ try 10 against maru or inno
Looking when Maru dominated Classic and you will know how imba MAru is.
Patch terran successfully chinned
Ow you mean the guy they actually made the patched against right? Byun's godlike reaper play was a direct result of him being godlike with them... Reapers weren't buffed if anything so patch terran is quite a wrong thing to say.
tobiasL1991 he was top tier for about 3 months. Patch terran. Great micro, average everything else when it comes to pro level
@ IAMCOW, the patch was literally meant for him! They nerfed the reaper specifically for him, twice. That should say enough. Also getting round of 8 isn't top tier anymore, lol you have some weird logic to what is toptier...
tobiasL1991 hes been good for like 5 months of his 7 year career. He's been a ro32 player most of his career. He's phenomenal at micro but thats about it.
Byun couldn't play because of hand injury, but still it's beacuse terran is bad
Artosis and Tasteless are the best
Protoss nerfed when? Sick of seeing toss just a-move across the map and win against much better players. ByuN picks off a warp prism with three HT inside of it, which would be a crippling blow to any Terran or Zerg army losing that many keystone units at once, and it doesn't matter because Classic just attack-moves at ByuN with chargelots and blink stalkers.
How about Widow Mines made less shit, too?
omg widow mines are serioulsy weird now. They are too easy to dodge, spot and kill....you can get lucky but thats really it just luck no skill. When he dropped in the probe line he was lucky to get that many kills. They really need to rethink the widow mines to make it a unit worth getting. To me byun lost because he focused on window mines...they do nothing but take up minerals and soak up a few shots.
David Carper byun better than Classic? Good meme
I am pretty sure that's not the case David Carper. Maru will probably reveal weaknesses in Protoss in the next matchup.
Do you think that Maru will beat Classic? xD
Stating someone a-moved and won when that's clearly what didn't happen (haven't seen a single game in any match up won by simply a-moved) just disrespects the player.
Classive pvt sooo strong
chin toss!!
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CHIN GOD CHIN GOD CHIN GOD!!!
져준 느낌이냐...
Simply Korean 손목 통증이 되게 심해서 제대로 못했다네요
protoss is already arguably the weakest race, classic is just extreeemly good
therockontheshelf lololololololol
chin power.
byun was good but claasic was just better overall
byun throwing he did not make ravens any game and proxied in the 2nd game Classic played clean and byun if he made Raven's OP spell and EMP all the units classic made would get deleted. i think he's hiding those op buffs here in this series beating stats with every buff terran got, and now just not even trying to make raven's I see what he's doing here. sOs and stats lost for a reason the buffs terran got are a bit too much..
He didn't make Ravens because they were nerfed into the fucking ground lol. Blame Blizzard, not Byun.
Look at Maru vs Rogue even with mass seeker missiles, it didn't even make a proper dent on Rogue's Corruptor-Broodlord clump.
The only probably unintentional throw here was at 3rd game when Byun had pain issues with his hands and wrist. After they resumed the game you can see Byun suddenly become a bit more passive then how he usually plays. He was probably just trying to "finish the race" at that point.
Ravens got nerfed really hard dude - maybe a little too hard, even. Seeker missile does 15 dmg now, down from 30. Maru actually lost a game to Rogue because he tried to do old style Raven spam against Broodlord-Corruptor and got thrashed. Dude would dump like 10+ missiles into a blob of Broodlords and barely get them to like 1/3, then Rogue would just patch them up with transfuse like nothing happened.
Seeker missile nerf needed to happen and I'm glad it did, old Raven spam style was boring af to watch. Maybe they should've made Auto-Turrets a bit better to compensate, though.
David Carper
Yeah dude, Zerg players should never have to micro or split armies at all.
It's a shame Terrans think they should be able to counter Brood-Corrupter.
I think zergs, protoss, and terran should all have to split there armies I've played since wol & All these extra spell n buffs they've added to T is effecting protoss in pvt and it sucks cause Zerg is already strong pvz broods, banes, hydra
TvP is so imbalanced, see how many middle-tier toss players in Ro.32! iNnovation is always right!
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