It’s honestly magical to see tech like this be discovered and implemented even after all this time. Really does go to show that Melee is not and never will be a solved game.
@@PipsqueakSSBM well, you certainly didn’t need to make this video and spread the news even faster, lol. I figure you must care about the meta if you’re willing to sink time into it. I’d say this video both hurts and helps your “character” 😜
Some people won’t implement this and it won’t be huge, but some players like Jmook, zain, wizzy, amsa, etc. who are very technical at defensive options are going to love this shit 🙃
Quality vid with excellent explanation, summary and examples that demonstrate a lot of the nuances of the discovery. Love the TH-cam content your putting out and appreciate you’re contributions to the scene pip :)
Really nice video, I missed a lot of the twitter discussion following your original post, so I appreciated including that as well as your own theoretical follow-ups that you tested
Maybe one mixup for this SDI (Squeak Directional Influence) tech could be to dair, If they're rolling to edge and ASDIing down and in and SDIing in, the follow up dair might not knock them off the platform. But against no SDI they always fall off I think. I tried maybe delaying upair to throw of the SDI timing, but you can actually just do this entire technique while holding shield after tech, probably making it harder to fuzzy for a punish timing, but fuzzying instant (since you'll squeak DI out) and late (since you'll shield, probably able to shield drop after) up-air timings. I am very interested to see what people who actually have good execution are able to lab for this
That could honestly be a good name for it, because you’re barely squeaking out of the up-air. I suppose time will tell if a concrete name arises anytime soon.
Did nobody else know about this? I thought people already knew about this. I've been using this to slide off against marth, and to consistently amsa tech.
12:21, even if they repeat the same on top plat, couldn't you then regrab upthrow upair juggle? This also is a question for like PS where there is no top plat
Damn imagine only having platform tech chase grab/upsmash into top plat mixup or ledge guard scenario at your disposal, that must be so hard for fox mains. I weep for you. If only there were some sort of way to cancel your up air animation when you're near the edge of a platform. If only you had basic defensive options available to you upon being reversaled, like not DIing in on Falco uptilt or shine then DIing out on fsmash.
@@PipsqueakSSBM I'm glad this comment found you true, I read your movements one month in advance. Also good choice on the best video player for windows my man.
"Me when the opponent teleports out of my up air techchase-"
Fucking KILLED ME LMAOOOO
It’s honestly magical to see tech like this be discovered and implemented even after all this time. Really does go to show that Melee is not and never will be a solved game.
Props to pip for adding to the meta despite making his character worse. This is what true love of the game looks like 😊
I like this rendition of the story lets go with that
@@PipsqueakSSBM well, you certainly didn’t need to make this video and spread the news even faster, lol. I figure you must care about the meta if you’re willing to sink time into it.
I’d say this video both hurts and helps your “character” 😜
Some people won’t implement this and it won’t be huge, but some players like Jmook, zain, wizzy, amsa, etc. who are very technical at defensive options are going to love this shit 🙃
you can do this without SDI in some cases
mango will start doing it 2 years from now and call it 'mango sdi'
@@bingsville5159 lmao true
Quality vid with excellent explanation, summary and examples that demonstrate a lot of the nuances of the discovery. Love the TH-cam content your putting out and appreciate you’re contributions to the scene pip :)
Really nice video, I missed a lot of the twitter discussion following your original post, so I appreciated including that as well as your own theoretical follow-ups that you tested
Maybe one mixup for this SDI (Squeak Directional Influence) tech could be to dair, If they're rolling to edge and ASDIing down and in and SDIing in, the follow up dair might not knock them off the platform. But against no SDI they always fall off I think.
I tried maybe delaying upair to throw of the SDI timing, but you can actually just do this entire technique while holding shield after tech, probably making it harder to fuzzy for a punish timing, but fuzzying instant (since you'll squeak DI out) and late (since you'll shield, probably able to shield drop after) up-air timings.
I am very interested to see what people who actually have good execution are able to lab for this
use dair, but thats falcos thing....... switch to falco and use dair..... good idea....
the sheik stock is rising....
it really is...
NOOOOOO THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY ACTIONS FUCK
I would like to humbly apologise for being chimp mode lately
No worries, hopefully it came off as being in good fun I didn't mean to vilify you
jump shine fair / up air made me crack up when i first saw the tweet lmao
Lmao drew
Fawks unknowingly changing the meta lmao
absolutely crazy
Sakurai secretly went back to Melee and nerfed Fox
"How I Accidentally Nerfed My Main" - PudgyPanda 2019
This game never fails to leave me dumbfounded
I remember doing this to my homie at his 7th birthday party (we were playing children's party games)
Love the thumbnail lmao
Thanks I feel like the less braincells I have the better my thumbnails become
Axes downthrow tech chasing just got buffed.
What in the holy Pyramids of Geezer are you playing in? Boxxes aren't even boxxes anymore...
There I am gary! In the first second!
The jab part was hilarious
Hey Pip, any advice for the CStick 45deg angle ASDI using a rectangle ? Do you just move a finger and use 2 finger ?
On keyboard I can hit c stick down with either thumb
Feel like ive been doing this with sheik recovery forever. Didnt know how applicable it really was
??? you never nerfed yoshi what are you on about amsa jr?
You don't know what I've done in the dark...
lmao at the thumbnail with bowser viable and fox unviable
can we call this maneuver the "squeak"?
I don't have the ego required to name this after myself lmao
That could honestly be a good name for it, because you’re barely squeaking out of the up-air. I suppose time will tell if a concrete name arises anytime soon.
@@PipsqueakSSBM either the squeak or the schnuckle, it's your choice
@@PipsqueakSSBM Hahaha then we all just have to collectively do it for you >:D
"FawkSqueak"
good stuff
Can you early up air and skip the first hit?
how do you input diagnal c sticks on boxx style conchs?
nice, melee needed a fox nerf patch lol
Did nobody else know about this? I thought people already knew about this. I've been using this to slide off against marth, and to consistently amsa tech.
This is not a slide off
12:21, even if they repeat the same on top plat, couldn't you then regrab upthrow upair juggle? This also is a question for like PS where there is no top plat
SqueakDI
Damn imagine only having platform tech chase grab/upsmash into top plat mixup or ledge guard scenario at your disposal, that must be so hard for fox mains. I weep for you. If only there were some sort of way to cancel your up air animation when you're near the edge of a platform. If only you had basic defensive options available to you upon being reversaled, like not DIing in on Falco uptilt or shine then DIing out on fsmash.
The FawkSDI
Just more mixups, nothing world view altering. Players just have something else to think about now.
Does this work on Falco?
Surely the jab guy meant waveland techchasing.
Right?
Yea but you don't have even remotely close to enough time is the problem, like you need double or more time than what you have
drill
Apology not accepted
didnt aklo say he nerfed his own character too? who discovered this? is it gunna be called the aklo or the the pip slide
I go through the series of events in the first 5 minutes of the video lol
@@PipsqueakSSBM so it was ... multiple people ... what do we call it???
@@paulwall6362 idno I have no intentions of naming it
@@PipsqueakSSBMwell then u give me no choice, the pip slide until we come up with something better
asdi down and in 45 and sdi down is so fucking easy to lab, boot up unclepunch giganerds (positive)
homie update your MPC-BE
LOL THANKS i completely forgot
@@PipsqueakSSBM I'm glad this comment found you true, I read your movements one month in advance. Also good choice on the best video player for windows my man.
I don't like the pip patch
Don't worry I don't like it either