This is a playbook from NS. They were putting light empties at the from of the train on HSC and the same thing happened several times. Train marshalling folk never learn.
Thank you for being there to show us this. We have got too remember every one has a camera on all the time that's why there so many more derailments, back years ago no one carried a camera so these derails went unnoticed by the public. Keep sharing your videos give your friend extra donuts and a coffee for his help.
The minute I saw this I thought "string lining". I'm amazed there aren't more string lining derailments with the way they are building trains these days. I CN intermodal came through here a few days ago with loaded well cars on the head end then a whole bunch of empty wells then back to loaded wells. Looked like string lining just waiting to happen.
I was just thinking the same thing Douglas! I see it down here in Australia though our trains aren't as long usually. I'm surprised it didn't string line again as they took off..LOL CHeers Gregg.
Thanks for the derailment coverage Mark. This one didn't look too bad. Just a couple scratches and dents. I saw a car from a derailment once that they did the same repair to. Temporary air line fix with those white plastic pipes.
They’re called Strato runaround hoses. Strato, a company that makes a wide variety of railroad parts including air brake components in NJ, makes those hoses.
Love the videos. Love your knowledge and commentary. Similar derailments kept occurring on Horseshoe Curve on NS. They eventually mandated that all empty wells go on the rear of the train.
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Hey, I drove past (going down the hill) an noticed the cars leaning over. I thought it would be a good scene for you to check out...then I saw you walking around! Good job keeping people informed.
Cool video Mark , Yep put the empties on the head end on a long heavy train . Management needs intelligent people to help safely run their railroad . It's the same as when I hired out in 1971 . Great timing on getting your deluxe video .
Had a string line incident just like this on my N Scale layout the other day. Can't put the light cars at the front of the train in curves and hills .... I can't believe how many loaded cars are behind that empty set of wells.
Horseshoe Curve has their share of String Line with Center Beam cars which is Norfolk Southern. If NS didn’t have Bad Luck, they wouldn’t have Any Luck at all.
And I would guess that the FNBS train was headed the other way and thus was waiting for this beast to pass. Otherwise there probably would have been a lot more damage to both trains.
Too add, both trains are going slow & one is probably stopped in a siding. Plus stuff like this is routine in that mountain pass. So the crew cut the throttle quick.
As with Horseshoe curve, it seems the string-line wrecks happen with lighter cars mixed-in. Perhaps they should be more proactive when making trains-up?
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GREAT report, Mark, and thanks for sharing! I live in Albuquerque where the morning lows have been in the 20's. No 70's for me and enjoy your above average weather. Be careful of the rattlers in the high grass out there in the warmer weather. I am surprised that there are not more derailments on the TP. Along with rail issues, I always wonder if there are weight shifts in the cars that have them leaning on curves that may lead to derailments. Anyhow, these trains are getting longer and longer and weight distributions on these trains have to be carefully determined. Be safe out there and Happy 2024 from New Mexico! 😎
I was thinking like you > shifting weight(s) as they go around these tight curves. In any case, nerve-wracking for the crews; if it was me, I'd be wondering doing the trip! Glad it wasn't worse. And they certainly got the heavy equip there pronto - good job on that, BNSF or was it UP? Happy New Year! Be safe, folks...
@@jessstone7486 Thanks for your reply. Mark did mention in his comments about the way this long train had the weight distributed that may have caused this derailment. I have seen much worse derailments on this line in the past and glad the crews got the cars back on track (no pun intended) as fast as they did and on their way to their destinations.
Very interesting video 😊. Seems like they get derailments there off and on. At least it’s not major but it’s costly to shut the line down. I know what you mean about the comment section 😅
I don't consider myself an expert. But a classic "string line". Build a manifest with empty center beams and well cars too close to the headend and too far from the next power on a curve with grade and you are just asking for it, IMO. I know there are a lot of factors here, Mark but I think the yards would avoid this make-up like the plague. By the way, I'm a huge fan of yours and love your expertise on my passion for efficient railroading, especially UP!
GREAT WORK! Coverage from start to finish! looked like there was not even any track to rework. Ref: empty wells NOT at end.. somewhere over the years i saw a vid where containers were off loaded from wellcars in the middle of an active train that had pulled into the yard, stopped, and let many wellcars be unloaded. then the train took off with the empty wellcars left between loaded cars. this was about 12 wells. the conversation that took place between some old timers went a little list this.. Q: why didn't they move the empties to the end of the train? A: 1. if the remainder of the trains route stays under some MPH then there is no need to move them. A. 2. if the weight of the trailing cars does not exceed some calculated tonnage and the length of the empties does not exceed some calculated length, then the empties do not have to be moved. A. 3. if there is a properly positioned DPU then the limits for the above can go up and the empties not be moved. A. 4. if the rest of the trains route does NOT have any curves over a set degree then the train can proceed as if the empties were still loaded. this is what a very long read boiled down to for me. there were other topics that went over my head for the numbers of all this. so what i have written in no way covers all the things that must be taken into consideration.
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Well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out you never put empty Well cars that far forward on a train that long It will just pull them right off the track. We used to set up trains at the BNSF intermodal yard in fresno (now closed) and thats how we did it ,
Classic string- lining (tight curve, empty well cars between loads. Some manager thought this was OK to make up a train. I read the train symbol was the ISELC. I’m surprised it didn’t go on the ground soon, like in Oregon. Unfortunately the poor engineer will probably be blamed for incompetent train handling.
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They will send the damaged cars to the next yard where the train is to be switched its in the SSI. They had to put in a run around hose for the damaged trainline hose (piping). By setting them out at so place short of it destination would then cause an other train to stop to pick them up after repaired. For the stack cars damaged air line can be fixed while on the ramp track Car dept or outside contractor can drive right to it . The tank car on the other train will have to be rolled thru the Car Repair track which will count dwell against that terminals hours in the yard . PSR.
I agree that the empty lighter cars need to be at the rear of the consist so they aren't between heavier cars in front and in back. I found that out when i had too many cars hooked up on my American Flyer train track several times! Moving the lighter, empty cars to the rear solved my derailment problem!! Obviously a much smaller scale but same principle....
3:40 that lose rail, makes me think that either the track has been recently replaced or was due to be replaced. Does this location have check-rails on both tracks?
They did two major rail projects it 2022, and at least one is planned in 2024 beginning in January. Check rails are usually only used at control point switches around here. They don't even use them on bridges any more. Thanks for checking it out!
The last true one was Jan. 21, 2023. A locomotive lost traction, spun up, and burned the rail. The train stalled and when they ere backing down to double track to work on it, the rail broke between two divots. An axle came off last month when the lip broke off a badly worn rail and a flange climbed the rail. Thanks for checking it out!
Not really. In 2023, there was one major derailment up here (January), this one, and a single axle incident in November, and none involved empty center beams. Not bad for a line that sees 10,000 trains per year. Thanks for checking it out!
It doesn't actually happen as often as it would seem. Three in 2023, and only one of those major. Since I retired and got serious about the channel in 2019, there have been a total of nine. Not bad when you consider that is out of about 40,000 trains over that time. Thanks for checking it out!
Railroad have change so much since technology improved is unbelievable. Long train with dpu was unimaginable when I started in the 80.They keep employees but those trains could be run without as it does in Australia by satellite.
This is interesting...why the empties were positioned there....21 years on a railway we never would have put light loads or empty anywere midtrain or up front .....set and release must be very hard on grades and curves....
What exactly causes “smaller” de-rails like this? And how quickly would the engineer or whom ever know if a few cars were off the rails in the middle of a long trains like this?
This was a "stringline" type. Early guess is poor train make up by placing empty cars between loaded cars. Other than hitting a dragging equipment detector, or if someone sees and calls the the crew on the radio, the only way a crew will know is if the train comes apart, which will break the air hoses apart, which sets the brakes. In this case, the cars remained together, but a couple of air lines along the sides of cars were broken. Thanks for the question and for checking it out!
I’m sure I’m not the only one who knows how this all happened. Let’s just say, it happens in HO the same way, if you put empty cars in the middle of loaded ones.
@@MarkClayMcGowan my south lot line is on another part of the UP system. On weekends they are notorious for combining multiple trains together to save crews and costs. A few weeks back a train left town that was just shy of 15000 feet with three units in front and one DP unit further back. Before they had even gotten 100 miles from my house, which is a crew change point, they had already broken two knuckles and were going to die on 12 hours along with the following train. When they got to Milwaukee the broke again and the slack running in caused a 3 car derailment in Milwaukee. How much money did the railroad save by combining these two trains when they essentially had to use 5 crews to get from Adams to Proviso where they'd have normally done it with two crews. Add in the "Hulcher tax" for the derailment cleanup and then how much money did Uncle Pete save? It also makes me wonder about these "one man crew" trains UP wants to run in Wyoming. The ground based "expediter" has to have an access road to reach the airbase or knuckle. In Wyoming roads drift shut with snow literally in minutes. Are they going to have B&B or MOW people with plow trucks or skid steers ready to keep the line-side access roads open 24-7 so the expedite can do his job?
Send me one! They're expensive, I live on a fixed income, and I make doodley squat from this channel! Seriously, I had a DJI mini mavic, but they abandoned the Android platform before I had the chance to adapt to using it, and now you can't even find a used one for a decent price. Thanks for checking it out!
Don't quite understand the logic of pitting empty well or auto rack cars ahead of the loads. Especially on Tehachapi. Hard to deny the forces of physics.
January: rail broke under the train, ten cars. November: flange climbed a bad rail, one axle. December: Stringline, four cars. That's not many considering they run about 10,000 trains a year over the Tehachapi, which is one of the steepest class 1 grades in the country, and definitely has the most curvature. As to there seemingly a lot these days; that's due to social media (like me) pointing them out. There are really no more now than there have ever been, you just hear about more of them. Thanks for checking it out!
When you saw train cars derailed then I watched TH-cam channel and saw new rail laid on side of the track as I knew exist rails are worn out cause detail and Railroad company should immediately switch rail prevent derailment. I used volunteer for RR as follows RR rules as well.
You retired from the railroad, but they can't take the railroad out of you. Thanks for the videos.
Empty cars + in front of a heavy train + a tight curve = String lined Derailment
You would think that the railroad would know by now to put empties on the rear of the train.
They do, but the employees have to correctly make up the train.
Thats exactly the issue
Usually with a DPU you would think it would not be a problem.
This is a playbook from NS. They were putting light empties at the from of the train on HSC and the same thing happened several times. Train marshalling folk never learn.
Thank you for being there to show us this. We have got too remember every one has a camera on all the time that's why there so many more derailments, back years ago no one carried a camera so these derails went unnoticed by the public. Keep sharing your videos give your friend extra donuts and a coffee for his help.
You are exactly right about why it seems like more are happening. Thanks for checking it out!
The minute I saw this I thought "string lining". I'm amazed there aren't more string lining derailments with the way they are building trains these days. I CN intermodal came through here a few days ago with loaded well cars on the head end then a whole bunch of empty wells then back to loaded wells. Looked like string lining just waiting to happen.
I was just thinking the same thing Douglas! I see it down here in Australia though our trains aren't as long usually. I'm surprised it didn't string line again as they took off..LOL
CHeers Gregg.
Thanks for the derailment coverage Mark. This one didn't look too bad. Just a couple scratches and dents. I saw a car from a derailment once that they did the same repair to. Temporary air line fix with those white plastic pipes.
They’re called Strato runaround hoses. Strato, a company that makes a wide variety of railroad parts including air brake components in NJ, makes those hoses.
Love the videos. Love your knowledge and commentary. Similar derailments kept occurring on Horseshoe Curve on NS. They eventually mandated that all empty wells go on the rear of the train.
Thanks for putting this video of yesterday's event together so fast!
Thanks for the Great Coverage on yet another Derailment at Tehachapi. 👍🙏
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Hey, I drove past (going down the hill) an noticed the cars leaning over. I thought it would be a good scene for you to check out...then I saw you walking around! Good job keeping people informed.
Thank you, sir!
Your help has made my photography a lot more fun and nicer. Thank you
Cool video Mark , Yep put the empties on the head end on a long heavy train . Management needs intelligent people to help safely run their railroad . It's the same as when I hired out in 1971 . Great timing on getting your deluxe video .
I said the same thing....my 21 years says it ain't a good idea....set and release must be a bitch in train handling...
Had a string line incident just like this on my N Scale layout the other day. Can't put the light cars at the front of the train in curves and hills .... I can't believe how many loaded cars are behind that empty set of wells.
Thanks mark,it's cool how you move around the area filming all the spots and there location great action
Horseshoe Curve has their share of String Line with Center Beam cars which is Norfolk Southern. If NS didn’t have Bad Luck, they wouldn’t have Any Luck at all.
I wonder how both trains knew that a problem existed fast enough to keep the damage to such a minimum?
Airlines busted and when that happens, they put it into emergency stop
And I would guess that the FNBS train was headed the other way and thus was waiting for this beast to pass. Otherwise there probably would have been a lot more damage to both trains.
Too add, both trains are going slow & one is probably stopped in a siding. Plus stuff like this is routine in that mountain pass. So the crew cut the throttle quick.
As with Horseshoe curve, it seems the string-line wrecks happen with lighter cars mixed-in. Perhaps they should be more proactive when making trains-up?
Hey Mark. I can safely say that this was a result of improper train make up----a stringliner! Thanks for the vid Mark!!!
6:20 Awesome! Old, original pieces of highway are always awesome finds!
I agree completely!
Great video I love seeing you get close to him because you don't worry about it when they ask you to leave you leave thank you I also watched all your shorts take care have a good New Year's
GREAT report, Mark, and thanks for sharing! I live in Albuquerque where the morning lows have been in the 20's. No 70's for me and enjoy your above average weather. Be careful of the rattlers in the high grass out there in the warmer weather. I am surprised that there are not more derailments on the TP. Along with rail issues, I always wonder if there are weight shifts in the cars that have them leaning on curves that may lead to derailments. Anyhow, these trains are getting longer and longer and weight distributions on these trains have to be carefully determined. Be safe out there and Happy 2024 from New Mexico! 😎
Thank you, and thanks for checking it out!
This looks like a string line derailment.
I was thinking like you > shifting weight(s) as they go around these tight curves. In any case, nerve-wracking for the crews; if it was me, I'd be wondering doing the trip! Glad it wasn't worse.
And they certainly got the heavy equip there pronto - good job on that, BNSF or was it UP?
Happy New Year! Be safe, folks...
@@jessstone7486 Thanks for your reply. Mark did mention in his comments about the way this long train had the weight distributed that may have caused this derailment. I have seen much worse derailments on this line in the past and glad the crews got the cars back on track (no pun intended) as fast as they did and on their way to their destinations.
Very interesting video 😊. Seems like they get derailments there off and on. At least it’s not major but it’s costly to shut the line down. I know what you mean about the comment section 😅
I wonder why they didn't have a DPU mid-train, especially on the loop. It might have helped prevent the string-line derailment.
It wasn't a heavy train.
I don't consider myself an expert. But a classic "string line". Build a manifest with empty center beams and well cars too close to the headend and too far from the next power on a curve with grade and you are just asking for it, IMO. I know there are a lot of factors here, Mark but I think the yards would avoid this make-up like the plague. By the way, I'm a huge fan of yours and love your expertise on my passion for efficient railroading, especially UP!
GREAT WORK! Coverage from start to finish! looked like there was not even any track to rework. Ref: empty wells NOT at end.. somewhere over the years i saw a vid where containers were off loaded from wellcars in the middle of an active train that had pulled into the yard, stopped, and let many wellcars be unloaded. then the train took off with the empty wellcars left between loaded cars. this was about 12 wells. the conversation that took place between some old timers went a little list this.. Q: why didn't they move the empties to the end of the train? A: 1. if the remainder of the trains route stays under some MPH then there is no need to move them. A. 2. if the weight of the trailing cars does not exceed some calculated tonnage and the length of the empties does not exceed some calculated length, then the empties do not have to be moved. A. 3. if there is a properly positioned DPU then the limits for the above can go up and the empties not be moved. A. 4. if the rest of the trains route does NOT have any curves over a set degree then the train can proceed as if the empties were still loaded. this is what a very long read boiled down to for me. there were other topics that went over my head for the numbers of all this. so what i have written in no way covers all the things that must be taken into consideration.
Thanks for checking it out!
Thanks Mark. Happy New Year.
Thank you for your great coverage. I hope that you had a Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year.
Thank you for these videos & the way you present them. Do not change the way you do them.
Very interesting Mark, thanks for the coverage and sharing! (Dave).
thx mark letting us see the situation up close and how they deal with it..
Nice catch mark yes a cluster 👍🏻😎 not the first time here . 😎👍🏻be safe .
It looks like a Union Pacific Derailment at Rowan California Mark
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No track damage, and no injuries. Thanks for the comment!
Well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out you never put empty Well cars that far forward on a train that long It will just pull them right off the track. We used to set up trains at the BNSF intermodal yard in fresno (now closed) and thats how we did it ,
Who in the world thought that putting that empty well right in the middle of the train INSTEAD OF WITH THE OTHER EMPTY WELLS (AHEM) was a good idea?
Thanks a lot. I'm watching with great interest from over the pond !
It's very obvious what happened, light cars with heavy cars behind and on a curve.........Helloooooooooo!!!
Classic string- lining (tight curve, empty well cars between loads. Some manager thought this was OK to make up a train. I read the train symbol was the ISELC. I’m surprised it didn’t go on the ground soon, like in Oregon. Unfortunately the poor engineer will probably be blamed for incompetent train handling.
Beats me why they marshall empties in with loads. Oh well,made for another entertaining video :-) Happy New Year to you.
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Thank you, sir!
They will send the damaged cars to the next yard where the train is to be switched its in the SSI. They had to put in a run around hose for the damaged trainline hose (piping). By setting them out at so place short of it destination would then cause an other train to stop to pick them up after repaired. For the stack cars damaged air line can be fixed while on the ramp track Car dept or outside contractor can drive right to it . The tank car on the other train will have to be rolled thru the Car Repair track which will count dwell against that terminals hours in the yard . PSR.
Interesting documentary. Thanks for sharing!
I ate there at the Keene Cafe back in 2011 when my brother and me were out there railfanning. It's a nice place to eat and the food was good.
Yes it is! I am definitely a regular there!
I agree that the empty lighter cars need to be at the rear of the consist so they aren't between heavier cars in front and in back. I found that out when i had too many cars hooked up on my American Flyer train track several times! Moving the lighter, empty cars to the rear solved my derailment problem!! Obviously a much smaller scale but same principle....
Excellent coverage 👍 thanks for sharing
Thanks for your on the spot reporting🙂
did the empty wellcars get pulled off the the tracks on the tight curve with the train at slow speed?
Yes. It appears to be a case of poor train make up.
It’s crazy how long those trains are out west
I don't know but, empty cars in front or in middle of a heavy train in a tight curve ? For me is a string lined derailment secure.
3:40 that lose rail, makes me think that either the track has been recently replaced or was due to be replaced. Does this location have check-rails on both tracks?
They did two major rail projects it 2022, and at least one is planned in 2024 beginning in January. Check rails are usually only used at control point switches around here. They don't even use them on bridges any more. Thanks for checking it out!
Two things contribute to this type of derailment 1. Inproper use of the automatic 2.Loads not classified in the consist correctly.
Was that a situation of straight lining? Thought the light cars should always be at the rear!
Yes is was, and you are correct. Sometimes, they just don't get it right when making up the trains though. Thanks for checking it out!
Thanks for the videos and the info.
Great video. Thanks for sharing
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What’s with what appears to be a single rail on the outside of the curve in the first segment?
It's new rail that will be installed early this year when the system gang arrives in the area later this month.
Just subscribed. Very nice coverage. Were the tanks that were struck empty?
Yes. No placards, but I was told they were empty petroleum product tanks.
The double stacks seem to exaggerate the super elevation of the outside rail. Or do the springs compress more on the inside curve ?
I honestly don't know about the spring compression, but yes, the higher cars tend to look leaned over more. Thanks for checking it out!
Wasn't there another derailment a few months ago? Or several months ago? Bad track neglected?
The last true one was Jan. 21, 2023. A locomotive lost traction, spun up, and burned the rail. The train stalled and when they ere backing down to double track to work on it, the rail broke between two divots. An axle came off last month when the lip broke off a badly worn rail and a flange climbed the rail. Thanks for checking it out!
You guys sure do have a lot of derailments. Those empty center beams on that sharp curve make me nervous I picture another derailment coming up.
Not really. In 2023, there was one major derailment up here (January), this one, and a single axle incident in November, and none involved empty center beams. Not bad for a line that sees 10,000 trains per year. Thanks for checking it out!
Thanks for the update, great job.
I’m still learning about Tehachapi, why does this location endure so many derailments? Is it the right curves and heavy tonnage
It doesn't actually happen as often as it would seem. Three in 2023, and only one of those major. Since I retired and got serious about the channel in 2019, there have been a total of nine. Not bad when you consider that is out of about 40,000 trains over that time. Thanks for checking it out!
Railroad have change so much since technology improved is unbelievable. Long train with dpu was unimaginable when I started in the 80.They keep employees but those trains could be run without as it does in Australia by satellite.
I don't know. I am new to railfanning. Thanks. Glad everything is ok.
Welcome to the insanity! Thanks for checking out my channel!
Another string line? Empty cars in the middle?
This is interesting...why the empties were positioned there....21 years on a railway we never would have put light loads or empty anywere midtrain or up front .....set and release must be very hard on grades and curves....
~ Do you happen to know if the intermodal train had a DPU mid train?
It did not
Thanks for the great video Mark!
What exactly causes “smaller” de-rails like this? And how quickly would the engineer or whom ever know if a few cars were off the rails in the middle of a long trains like this?
This was a "stringline" type. Early guess is poor train make up by placing empty cars between loaded cars. Other than hitting a dragging equipment detector, or if someone sees and calls the the crew on the radio, the only way a crew will know is if the train comes apart, which will break the air hoses apart, which sets the brakes. In this case, the cars remained together, but a couple of air lines along the sides of cars were broken. Thanks for the question and for checking it out!
Wonder why the empty cars were at the head end instead of the tail end
Could not been moving too fast. things happen on the best of railroads. Happy New Year.
I think UP won the NASCAR lucky dog award, no right of way damage
Thanks mark for the update!
I’m sure I’m not the only one who knows how this all happened. Let’s just say, it happens in HO the same way, if you put empty cars in the middle of loaded ones.
Thank You for the great camera work( Or would it be enjoyment of doing ). Question, would that be a moron who put empties in front of loaded?
They set that train up to string-line, putting empties on either side of loaded cars, with containers, on a curve and grade.
String-lined it?
Were any shareholders injured? ;)
Actually, yes, in a manner of speaking. No traffic, no profit!
@@MarkClayMcGowan my south lot line is on another part of the UP system. On weekends they are notorious for combining multiple trains together to save crews and costs.
A few weeks back a train left town that was just shy of 15000 feet with three units in front and one DP unit further back.
Before they had even gotten 100 miles from my house, which is a crew change point, they had already broken two knuckles and were going to die on 12 hours along with the following train. When they got to Milwaukee the broke again and the slack running in caused a 3 car derailment in Milwaukee.
How much money did the railroad save by combining these two trains when they essentially had to use 5 crews to get from Adams to Proviso where they'd have normally done it with two crews. Add in the "Hulcher tax" for the derailment cleanup and then how much money did Uncle Pete save?
It also makes me wonder about these "one man crew" trains UP wants to run in Wyoming. The ground based "expediter" has to have an access road to reach the airbase or knuckle. In Wyoming roads drift shut with snow literally in minutes. Are they going to have B&B or MOW people with plow trucks or skid steers ready to keep the line-side access roads open 24-7 so the expedite can do his job?
I guess the Class 1 doesn’t pay for downtime, or this is intentional slowdown because stringline derailments keeps happening.
How would the train crews detect the derailment. It looked like the locomotives were far away?
In this case, the air pipes on the outside of the cars were broken, which stops the train. When cars pull apart, the same thing happens.
Nice coverage, you need a drone.
Send me one! They're expensive, I live on a fixed income, and I make doodley squat from this channel! Seriously, I had a DJI mini mavic, but they abandoned the Android platform before I had the chance to adapt to using it, and now you can't even find a used one for a decent price. Thanks for checking it out!
@@MarkClayMcGowan I thought RR Retirement was good.
It's fine, but I have bills to pay and some expensive hobbies (Harley, KTM, Golf)!
Where was this accident ?
The siding of Rowen. About one mile west of Keene.
Wasn’t there a derailment here not long ago?
an axle came off in November, but the last true derailment was Jan. 21, 2023 between Marcel and Cable
Is that a "Stringline derailment"?
Yes, sir. It certainly is.
thanks great news cast.
Is this what you would call a " shoestring " derailment?
A "stringline", but yes. This is a classic case of poor train make up.
Thank you for the video 👍
Thanks Mark
Seems to happen with empty cars more than not. Empty center beam flats mostly.
Look like the empty well car string lined into the other train which actually saved a bigger mess. And who put an empty well car between loads.
Nice shots , great vid
Those empty cars in the middle of the loaded cars is probably part of the issue.
If the tanker cars are dented like that then the containers must also be dented in some fashion.
Hey how many cranes does it take to life a train like cmon now trains are like 500 gran
Don't quite understand the logic of pitting empty well or auto rack cars ahead of the loads. Especially on Tehachapi. Hard to deny the forces of physics.
There is no logic to understand! Thanks for checking it out!
Why so many derailments?
January: rail broke under the train, ten cars. November: flange climbed a bad rail, one axle. December: Stringline, four cars. That's not many considering they run about 10,000 trains a year over the Tehachapi, which is one of the steepest class 1 grades in the country, and definitely has the most curvature.
As to there seemingly a lot these days; that's due to social media (like me) pointing them out. There are really no more now than there have ever been, you just hear about more of them. Thanks for checking it out!
When you saw train cars derailed then I watched TH-cam channel and saw new rail laid on side of the track as I knew exist rails are worn out cause detail and Railroad company should immediately switch rail prevent derailment. I used volunteer for RR as follows RR rules as well.
This was a stringline event likely caused by poor train make up, and had nothing to do with the rail
BNSF or UP?
UP fell over on a BNSF
Thank you