DERAILMENT AND CLEANUP ON THE TEHACHAPI!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2024
- I made my way up to tunnel two on the pass to a very messy derailment. I caught the cleanup from start to finish, and as bad as it looked, the line was only shut down for 16 hours. Some of the video was shot at long focal lengths and is a bit fuzzy, so please forgive me!
It's amazing how quickly these guys respond and clean-up the derailment. Great job!
It’s 150.000 dollars an hour for the trains to sit stopped, so when they fall off the track and block it ,the moving crews get big money to clear the tracks, it’s the same,all across the country, thanks BigAl California, p.s. might be more per hour, ,might depend on the freight.
@@alkennedy1124 Speaking for myself from what I've done for derailment response. A single flatbed truck runs at a $400/hr rate and that's the lowest rate of everyone who responds. It's huge money for those of us who are on railroad emergency response so there's very huge incentives to move fast. One company I haul things for has a good 4 dozen sidebooms sitting around the region in different areas for the sole purpose of derailment response.
Thank you for the great coverage Mark. I’m always impressed by the capabilities of the heavy lift equipment used in the cleanup. Talk about effective engineering!
I'm more impressed by the people managing this risky work.
Thank you for spending the day there to keep us informed, and well done to the clean-up crew
Good Job Mark, thanks for bringing the action to us. !!
Excellent showing Mark. Thank you for sticking around to film this. 👍😊
Notice how they're empty?
Maybe loaded ones behind pushed them over 🤔
Thankyou for derailment coverage, No1 Johnny-on- the Spot👍 ( really appreciate the time you spend videoing) 👍👍 Fascinating to watch
imagine working for a cleanup company like this just have to be ready to roll right away.excellent time lapse video.that was actually fun to watch thank you mark.
Admirable courage on the part of these people. That looks dangerous.
Empty center beams in the middle of a train, disaster waiting to happen 😅
Funny observation commentary !
We have a rule in Australia banning unloaded wagons in the front portion of trains for exactly this reason. When a train derails at 60mph and it's a 12 hr drive to the nearest depo that causes all sorts of problems!
@@peejay1981 Technically all railroads in the US restrict empties to the rear but it's not enforced and they build up trains in very poor ways.
Called scheduled precision railroading. It take time to properly make-up a train, time that cuts into shareholder value.
First thing I thought as well. Not enough weight to keep them on the rails in a curve. They wanna take the shortest path.
I was thinking the same thing, a lot of empties closer to the front of what is probably a fairly long train. I wonder how money creating trains this way saves them vs the loop being out of action for so long.
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, if Cormen doesn't get it, Hulcher must. 😎
Wow ,great coverage again mark, thank you have a nice day
Great coverage! Thank you Mark.
Great video Mark . Derailment crews work fast and clear the roadbed so they can get the trains running again . That's the priority , the hell with everything else .
Thx Mark for the great video...Had my dinner watching it!!!!!!!!!!
You got very good view of everything going on.
On my N Scale "mountain" RR, I call this type of derailment a "Squirt" where the weight of the train behind squirts light cars out of the train at the bottom of the hill at the curve. I have to pay attention to train makeup to prevent those things from happening. This looks quite familiar in my world ;-)
@@bryce2680 very 😎👍Ty for that very intrestig
Great coverage mark!!! Looks like those will be going to the scrap yard.
Those center-beams are a big cause lately
Train control failure. The computers onboard may have failed to slow a midtrain unit down or it shut down leading to compression of the cars beyond it and in a curve no less going downhill. Notice the rails are not spread. Concrete ties
mostly held up great. Short section may need replacing only. Great coverage Mark!
If this was in the UK people would be stood about doing Risk Assessments, Impact Analysis and talking about weeks not days before everything is back in order. Magnificent job from the clean up crew!
Great coverage, thanks for the video.
Amazing coverage Mark! Thank You!
Great video that's got to be a first a derailment exiting tunnel. Thanks for the video
"Up-hill slow, down-hill fast, tonnage first, safety last."
A union ditty from the old days.
Someone should come up with a ditty for Precision Scheduled Railroading.
Thanks for the great story of a relatively minor derailment.
Nice color rendition from the camera and videographer. Lovely country.
A smart news-station would ask for your video.
Always great derailment coverage!!👍
It would be more useful with the narration removed, especially the I don't know....
You're better than the news media.
My hats off to train people. I was driving to Grand Canyon a month ago, and couldn’t believe how much traffic is on the rails. It seems like every 10-15 minutes there was a huge train on the tracks going East or West, with somewhere between 75 to 125 cars…massive movement of material. At one location there were three trains parallel to each other…probably waiting for their turn to move.
This use to be one of my favorite spots for shooting pics and video's when I visited Tehachapi many years ago. Sure brings back wonderful memories.
JRH Hatboro, PA
That a great place for train watching. Right on top of tunnel number two a short distance before Bealville.
AWESOME VIDEO....! 👍👍
Hi Mark & it's is Randy and i like yours video is Cool & Thanks Mark & Friends Randy
Looks like you’re enjoying your retirement Mark!👏🏻👍🏻
Great coverage, Mark.
Great coverage Mark!
Thanks for the bad new and glad that got there quick to clean up.
Good job Sir!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Mark, Very Cool.
Cool video. I think its interesting how they clean it up.
Great coverage, thanks.
YES SIR I REMEMBER CLEANING UP THESE WRECKS ON THE OLD SP, WE WORKED AS A TEAM THE OLD FASHIONED WAY
That’s only a single track there between Bakersfield and Tehachapi on a main Union Pacific and BNSF rail line. They have to get that cleared quick. All rail traffic coming east from that major shipping area is stopped.
Great job, Mark!. I always wonder what happens to the contents of the box cars, etc?
Great job it appears that the training and now practice using all the equipment available these guys can get the job done. It’s good to know.
Hello Mark! Center Beam cars are always Suspect at least on the Norfolk Southern (NS) Railroad. They’re Experts at placing CB’s at Wrong Areas of the train. 🤪😬👎
Good Stuff Mark. A camera set up for timelapse would have been pretty cool.
Thank you for the vid. I read about it last night and like to see where it was.
This wat happens when a lot of loads are behind empty center-beams. NS learned the hard way, too.
The RR sometimes just shoves everything out of the way and haul the bo cars later. One year when i worked the hill had 24 derailments one year. Heard it was the WCRV. Westbound. Hopefully it wasnt too much dyamic Watch out for Rusty Mark ! 😅
Empty bulkhead flats are the culprit again
Believe it or not Mark, that train had over twice as many loads as empties, hence the 2 sets of Dupes.
Hi Mark, any idea why railroads no longer have wreck crews? Good video, thank you.
Man they sure work fast.
nice video. Great on the editing!
Good report, Mark.
Great job super well documented,,,was that a BNSF or a UP train ???
Thank God those centerbeams were not full of wood. Hulcher is always on the scene. Getting it done pretty quick. Those railcars don't look that bad except that one centerbeam so will the others be repaired or scrapped?
Seems like empty center beam cars are involved a lot in derailments, especially on curves
Demo crew better bring alot of tankers full of water before the torches get started. Looks like very dry grass in the area
I PA at the horseshoe curve derailments happen empty center beams in the middle of the train. They are too light to drag all the cars around the curve.
THANK YOU.....I guess it is cheaper to clean up a mess than reengineer the hill
Always wondered what those funny looking bulldozers did. 😊
Great video.
Looks like another center beam calamity
Wonder how many train crews got caught by the law.
I remember my dad getting caught, back in the 16 hour days, in a swamp out in the middle of nowhere and by the time they got him home (railroads had their own taxis back then), it was time to go back to work.
Rear dpus took the rear of the train to Mojave long hood forward
I wonder how many of these cars can be reused or if they will all be scrapped?
Joshua mostly does grading but seems like UP has started using them on derailments in the last few years.
Great work, Mark! By the way, I like your hat; where did you get it?
What date ,did this happen, the first short I seen from you , it had been cleared, so I’m wondering, the date, thanks BigAl California
Empty centerbeams and derailments go together
Great video Mark as usual. A derailment sure turns a bunch nice cars into scrap metal. Do they keep those side beam crawlers staged close by? It did not seem long before they arrived. I am curious how they haul those down the road as the booms seem to high or does the cab and winch section pivot on the track portion? Makes for an interesting operation to view but must cost quite a bit in equipment rental and manpower hours. Thanks for sticking with it out there.
They detach the booms and counterweight for transport
@@waggtech4883 Thanks for the info.
It seems to me that the center beam flats when empty are more prone to derail, I think the overall design of this car needs to be big time reengineered.
BNSF Has their version of Center Beam where it's built about 1/3 less in height than the TTZX cars and are those BNSF center beams derailing as much comparatively speaking ? That would be some interesting data.
Center Beam and Flats are dangerous when they are together in the middle of the train especially on a curve.
Sounds....exspensive!
Empty center beam flats and auto racks are the scourge of Tehachapi.
Let's see how long it takes the contractor to come up there and do the Edward Scissorhands technique on those Freight cars
Step 2: getting engineers to create a longer-radius curve coming out of that tunnel.
unloaded center beams should always be on the rear of any train. way to light and lift so easily.
Is it typical that there will be at least one derailment per year on this stretch of Trac?
Can the trucks be used again or are they damaged to where they can't be used?
Looks like the slack ran in, and knocked the empties outside of the curve.
AGREED ! I scheme those mid-train empty Centre-Beams were the cause; especially if there were some DPU's located further down the consist .... ! 🤔🤙💫💥
I agree, this looks like poor placement of the centerbeams combined with poor train handling. Of course they will try to hang it on the crew.
I wonder too if those DPUs just dropped to idle for no reason and all that slack just ran in poped 'em out like a pimple .
@philipschmierer3429 Who knows? But, I've that happen before.
Was this today?? I was just there yesterday!
Mark its my understanding that EOT's only flash at night. I could be wrong or there could be versions that do all the time
Mark, I would guess on the empty center beams, load and force dianamics are the issue. Yo much empty in the middle. They won't learn how to assemble a supper long train.
That's why on the railroad you can't have an empty grain car in a loaded grain train. The forces would pop it up like pop goes the weasel.
Crap, imagine having to call that derailment in to the Dispatcher!
No Xmas card for you!
Empty center-beams are regularly involved in derailments. They could be too light and unstable for long trains…
Wow. The Mojave sub is definitely not a place the railroads want to be out of service for very long.
Do they use the mid-train helpers on the downhill for extra braking help?
Hey Dan, here's a quick geo lesson. From geographically north to south (or RR West to East) Bakersfield CA is at 404 feet. At the top, Tehachapi is 3970 feet, then downhill to Mojave, at 2762 feet elevation. Bak to Teh is +3566 ft, Teh-Moj is -1208 ft. Total elevation change is 4774 feet . So DPUs would be used both as pushers AND extra brakes on this route.
I'm just a railfan so I have no idea if or what kind of training it takes an engineer to be 'authorized' to run a train on this route. But I'd think that running up the Central Valley (to the north for both RRs and basically flat) is very easy compared to the challenges of keeping a train in one piece over Tehachapi.
The several times I've visited The Loop I met railfans from all over the world. It's not only an engineering marvel, it's just plain fun! If you ever get a chance, go visit. Just be careful of private property, RR property, and snakes in the summertime. I hope you can come visit some day.
Thank you Mark for your report.
Fresno Station, out.
I wonder if they will come in with an excavator with steel shears to nibble the cars down to scrap them instead of cutting torches.
No doubt . They better extract them before the mud comes.
what will they do with them cars thats pulled to side some looks like there scrap now same as the wheels and bogies
Dang that’s pretty bad but the thing is it’s always the center beams derailing
Also I would consider this a bit worse than the derailment that happend in January when they fell off the cliff
We need to do another Railfaning day soon sense the day we tried to do it we kinda failed sense a train derailed
Gotta be BNSF putting lightweight empties in the middle ahead of loads.
Lots of scrap steel made today
Thats what we haul lumber on those types of train cars
Good job you did and comment. Thanks
Unloaded center beam cars in the middle of a train will derail every time. They are too light in proportion to weight of cars behind, so on a curve they are pulled straight off the rails.
Will all these be scrapped or repaired?
Will they just dispose of those cars?
The ratio of derailments per train is no more than 10 years ago, just more trains, and more people that rush out to record them.