Silver lake sand dunes sound decibel reading. And totally bs spark arrestor check!
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- Now I know this quad is too loud to get in and I understand that and that is perfectly. fine but the stuff about the spark arrestor is a bunch of BS my FMF pipe spark arrestor that I bought doesn't even have that on it or my Toomey spark arrestor in fact I have never seen a spark arrestor with that label on it. But cops (dnr) were cool tho..
Very thankful for these guys. Now I can get some good sleep in the middle of the day in my sand house and not have to worry about the sand catching on fire
Ok so a guy on a 130+ decibel Harley can haul ass through the middle of a neighborhood/city and he doesn't get a ticket or have to comply with any decibel level. Oh but yet you guys out in the dunes in the middle of no fucking where can get tickets for being too loud. The sound level law is fucking stupid!!
nooooo shit wtf is up with that bullshit...the system isnt worth a fuck
I've been ear raped multiple times by harleys
In defense of Harleys, they are slow as hell so being loud is all they have.
Kenny Rodger your dumb af 😂😂😂
Larry RX7Sports lmao mad at loud sounds and creates ordinance against it sounds totally conservative to me. Nice try though.
Decibel measurements are taken at 40 inches (3ft 4 inches) away from the source. NOT next to the exhaust!!! That officer was not instructed on how to measure it properly.
I'm a deputy sheriff who owns several straight piped vehicles and unless you are ripping through a residential neighborhood at 2AM I could care less.
You're one of the few
Thank you! I agree 100 percent, most people who drive cars straight piped, like cars and if they like cars that is a hobbie and hobbies are what people like to do most so there is less time for them to do drugs and stuff like that
Couldn't*
A deputy sheriff flying the confederate flag??? LMFAO
@@johns818
Well you see I'm from the state of Mississippi, and up until recently this flag was also on our department crest.
And I'm also an American citizen who is entitled to his own likes and dislikes so there's that too.
I feel safer now. Thanks Mr Forest ranger.
Yeah same I feel so much safer now that this man with a quieter than a straight piped Harley dope looking quad can't have a little fun cause of some noise.
Park rangers are paid and proud to harass their fellow man
@@kevmoful what do u meaaaannnnn
🤣😅😭😂💀 they be trying knock us off your bike during ride outs for no reason. Go actually fight real crime you bum🤣😅💀🤦🏾♂️
You gay?
A guy on a 130 decibel Harley can rip through the middle of a neighborhood in the city at 3 A.M. and he doesn't get a ticket or have to comply with any decibel level. Yet guys out in the dunes in the middle of nowhere get tickets for being too loud. The sound-level law is completely retarded.
That's what Im sayin.I had a shop next to me it used to shake the windows.
I've gotten a ticket due to sound on a bike in my neighborhood and so has my cousin.
motorcycles need loud pipe for safety
YUKI JINJUJI No paying attention keeps you alive. My stock pipes haven't killed me. Pipes aren't going to keep from someone pulling out on your ass.
no doubt. shit idk how many times cars have pulled out in front of me stopped just fine. pay attention. prime example kid gets new bike doesn't pay attention. doesn't have the experience to evade properly. ends up dead. lack of experience can get you killed too. not just poor hand and eye coordination.
A couple heroes out there saving the world from loud noises.
he was holding the decibel meter right up against the pipe of course its going to be loud here in my state they got to be tested over 75 feet away heck you hold the mic at your mouth you talk louder than 94 decibels
its me uhhh.. no. Standard distance is 10-12" measured for a decibel meter. 75 feet? Blowing smoke out of your ass if you think thats how a meter works.
+Michael “ImaCrazyGuy” Scherling was the cop 10 feet away??? stupid shit.
ivan figueroa he said " that means inches yet you calling him stupid ahhahaa you dumb af boi you owned yourself
Decibals are measured for sound pressure. You can blow into a db reader and get a 170db reading and a yell won't register. "Mufflers" break up pressure waves from exhaust to quiet them.
He put the meter in the pipe.
Db limits in a offroad park is ridiculous......Stupid.
Totally agreed!!
Thank goodness they were there to protect everyone form that extremely dangerous noise lmfao
mexico can have california back
daybreaK this isn't California. this is Michigan
TheFIREGOD12 well mexico can have michigan as well
daybreaK I'm dead😂😂
If these guys were in Mexico they wouldn't have any problems, As long as it's in a off road trail or park open to off road vehicles or even just out on dirt or sand.
daybreaK make California Mexico again
isn't there more important crimes going on in the world to be concerned about how loud a guys quad is on his vacation. I mean shit its not hurting nobody
Music to my ears honestly. I find it more annoying when Harleys have loud straight pipes.
My old vulcan 1500 had shorty straights and I swear it was at 120db at least. Especially at highway speeds. If I rode without earplugs I would suffer temporary hearing loss for a couple hours. I never got any hassle out of anyone though, at least I couldn't hear them if I did lol
Stoned Red eye's the worst thing about straight pipes isn't that they're loud, it's that they're a display of plain, sheer stupidity. You LOSE performance when you straight pipe. When people straight pipe their bikes, they're actually losing performance over the stock setup. And most don't even tune their vehicle so they're running lean. You make hp and torque from the backpressure a canister creates
+ReaIDeaI1 if the pipes are tuned to the proper length they'll create enough back pressure, while not burning your valves up as well. if they're chopped in a shop by Cletus then it's a whole different story.
***** it's called a tuned pipe lol, engineered to be used on specific engines.
ReaIDeaI1
It's still annoying I don't care what you say.
i live in the land of freedom...but im being to loud.
Mason Haiman We have the illusion of freedom but are really just modern day slaves all of us from every race and racism only exists because it is easier to control us as a society when we are racially divided
money is the controlling tool.
Land of the FREE
If you listen closely you can hear a Karen yelling “too loud!” out her minivan window.
Hi
Have you got a cheap quad bike for sale
Its a Damn off-road vehicle who gives a f about noise! Damn government has too much power.
You know that oily 2 stroke exhaust is really sparky.
I'm from a free part of the country what is a spark arrestor no seriously like even our new chainsaws don't have whatever that is isn't it like a little screen that goes in the exhaust cuz if so all the chainsaw dealers take that out to improve airflow before you buy them
@@dillan2.032 your mom
Thank you for not losing your shit and handling the situation with authority the right way! So many people just get up in a huffy and think the world is out to get them
Liam Tobey guys were just doing their jobs... and they were nice.
evilmanhut Exactly. I feel like a lot of people dont understand that. Just let them do their job and be polite. No reason to be nasty 👍
@@evilmanhutnazis were just "doing their jobs" too.
Being from Michigan I have never ever heard of this 94db limit for dirt bikes and atv's and I have lived here for the 28 years I have been alive
That limit applies to the silver lake sand dunes
i have been tested and always checked for spark arrestors
My grandpa, uncle and I received tickets for not having spark arrestors on our quads while at a SAND drag strip in the dunes. Like honestly, will the sand EVER catch fire?!?! Not only that, but as they were citing us, there were multiple other OHV's such as sand rails driving by with straight pipes!!! It was so bs. Ruined our trip.
come to California on vacation and leave on probation
craig pearson this is in Michigan
@@jimderess2206 there are sand dunes in Michigan?
@@Leopard69 yeah man. Huge ones on the west coast. Google Silver Lake Sand dunes
@@tnerbsg8134 I wouldn't say silver lake is huge when someone is comparing them to ocean dunes...
craig pearson Fuck california
can ya just let the man ride...jezzz
Mudd Boggin in Florida ya but there just doing there jobs
Michigan dnr is filled with a bunch of young punks they’ve ran away and run away everything
@@gregkaple8320 then do their jobs? Dumbass LOL guess the cashier at the gas station shouldn't ring up your shit either right? They're not out arresting or drumming up fake shit they're enforcing the laws/ regulations there. Have a problem with that? Do something and try to change it. Bitch. 😁
@@jumbojohnson3968 not everyone is strictly by the book, some actually use common sense. And idk if you know anything about silver lake but it is full of drag atvs that would never pass that decibel test. So evidently someone is using common sense realizing that that aren't hurting anything in the middle of the dunes and letting them through
Two things: First off, these forest service dudes were super respectful and cool.. props to them. they're doing their job, they had a lot of good, straight to the point facts to back up their info.
Second: The law (at least in Oregon, where im from) states that it can be a max of 89 dB when tested 25 feet away from the pipe. The nerdy forest service assistant was holding the tester right against the damn pipe like he wanted to be up inside it. This isn't your prom date, you need to test a certain distance away. im sure other states have different distances. be informed! these guys know they're loud AF, they should know they run the risk of getting stopped and tested. but most importantly they should have been informed and told the ranger to back up to the required testing distance.
Nube Toob 20inches in vali is the distance for nearby test
That's way closer than our 25 feet! Makes a huge difference. but hes still like 20 times too close than.
Nube Toob Yeah, but I don't think this video is cali. could be wrong. when I had my db test done guy said had to be done 20" for a near by and a further away test was around 20 feet.
Our law in Oregon just states the one distance.
Nube Toob Lucky, my dirtbike just ruined the db though. guess a r304 pipe is a little loud haha. welp, gotta go to Oregon to go ridin
Lol this is why I love dumont dunes, rangers could care less if you’re loud. At least you know how loud it is, 114 dB, that’s pretty cool to know. Sweet ride, don’t see a lot of banshees with snowmobile motors in them anymore, I remember back in the 90s, the rotax was a popular swap.
what is the poimt of a decibel check are you in an avalanche zone or something
matthew roach it's California, you can smoke weed, but you can't polute
Some bs
dirtydan lol silver lake is in michigan
matthew roach Not everyone wants to hear that shit
Mr Bob then leave you are the one not liking it so go
loud pipes save lives....
and proper tuned ones sound awesome. ...
No they don't. The sound is behind them. You can hear until they pass. That's just an excuse to be annoying.
@@jasonk795 What’s yours?
wait so if I have a gun with no stamps it's not a gun. well shit if it was that easy why did know one tell me
BlueReaper doom no, just no........
BlueReaper doom I'm sorry, but that was a really stupid comparison, and not even what they said
thomas cope it was meant to be ironic because what they said was clear bs.
BlueReaper doom - if you have a gun without stamp ( serial number) you are going to jail ...
+mar1video Lol dumbass serial numbers weren't required before 1968 shut the fuck up...
Cops glasses drops at 4:19 and he leaves em lmao
Jay W like a boss😎 ahhh
Spark arrestors...my story...two years ago I had my grand kids in the tub buggy and we were going through the Silver Lake Sand Dunes entry gate and one of the DNR girls started fussing with the helmet my grand kid was wearing, it was just enough delay that one of the DNR officers stepped out of the shack and told me there were no spark arrestors on my exhaust and we couldn't go in, grandkids on que go "WHAAAA! We want to go on the dunes!" So across the street I go to B and L Sports, buy a new exhaust system and spark arrestor and 30 minutes later we are back on the dunes with a little more power!
Moral to the story, Spend the money now and save yourself a half hour!
"if it's to loud your to old"
*too
Your name is reds da hustler, you have a picture of a skull as your profile picture yet your worrying about a comment that’s nearly 3 years old... lol
Sounds beautiful.
Ha ha...should have pinned it outa there!!!
I know
They'll spend the rest of the day in full force looking for you.. so I just go up the unmanned exit ramp :)
there just mad cause thats badass
Has to be tested in California if they're going to be sold in California... same reason why companies like Toyota have two different emissions protocol standards, one for vehicles intended for sale in California (which has the strictest laws on emissions), and one for all other 49 states.
graveyardrumblers California is slowly killing Diesel engines haha
california slowly kills everything
My fmf on my cr85 has a forest service approved spark arrestor stamp on the inside, like in between the mounting braket and muffler, almost not visible without taking the bike apart. Even my 1970 honda ct90, which almost certainly no longer has a functional spark arrestor(like it ever needed one) has the forest approved spark arrestor stamp on her.
114db at a low idle should have let it scream for the officers to see what you get if they were going to send you away anyway
Brian Hunt I would’ve done the same, I’m sure it would’ve been in the 120s for decibels. Lol
@brdman you are an idiot they can't legally take the quad unless he violated a law other than noise.
I wouldve unplugged the spark plug or hit the fuel shut off valve and be like “it wont start”
Loud pipes saves lives. Go find a poacher.
That is such a line of B.S. . I have had noisy bikes past me and scare the shit out of me as they go by. Didn't hear them coming !!! The sound is behind them !!!
No they don't. That's just an excuse. People who say that have parents that didn't let them make noise as children. Why do you have to draw attention to yourself? Do you have a complex? Everybody look at me. Nobody is showing me any attention. I feel so unimportant. Will somebody look at me?
Josh is right loud pipes save lives. THe SOunD iS BeHInD TheM ... stfu you tool .
Well if your going slow or on a quiet bike, yeah, your gonna hear a loud two stroke behind you. Sound echoes and carries a lot over dunes. So yes, it’s nice to have loud pipes so people know where you are, my friend got lost and that’s how we found him. So chill out
That sounds like a snowmobile motor
that's because it is a snowmobile motor
Sounds like my chainsaw.
tc1uscg your chain saw is a banshee
It is a sled motor, how does it mount up?..
I'm wanting to do that to my trx.
of course it does, its a v-twin 2 stroke
That 2 stroke is really gonna shoot flames
These guys are doing there job. This is an awesome riding area in Mid- Michigan. 👍
I agree. I was never mad or rude with them at all. Like I said in the description they were very cool about the whole thing.
glad i live in tx.
if your off road your off road. do what you want lol
loud pipes
wheel offset
lift
lights
stretch
paddles
flame thrower.... lol
But some places here in texas have that stupid db level crap too
In pa we test sound level like 20 feet back or something.
That sounds beautiful
Correct me if I am wrong, the readings have to be at 10ft or 6ft from the muffler? these guys basically put the mic right in the muffler
California; Where liberalism makes anything fun illegal 🤮👌
Well I guess I'm lucky to live in new York
@@dontheuseless9007 hell naw
WTF its Michigan
This is michigan
Permanent hearing loss begins to occur at ~85 dB. The reading shouldn't have been taken from the tip of the exhaust, but it was still way too loud. 114dB will affect your hearing big time...
I’d rather lose my hearing no other way
Well that's the riders choice, also it won't be nearly as loud to you when you're wearing a helmet
Those were nice wardens good thing you guys didn't argue
Casey Eis What the hell they going to do? all they can legally do is ticket and kick you out of a park/ state owned land..
The same thing happened to me. I have a V8 Jeep Grand Cherokee and the guy put it in a freaking rust hole in the exhaust. Whatever though there was an older guy who knows what he is doing and corrected the other guy. We were under 93 decibels
Just need to get a sticker that says “Approved”
that thing sounds mean as fuck like a mod sled
My under standing is when the take a Db reading there is a specific distance they are to be away from the end of the pipes, something like 12 feet. Otherwise doing it like they did nothing would ever pass.
quad sounds badass gotta love a 2 stroke I have a Yamaha Raptor 660R Yamaha 600 twin
Soon my farts will be regulated..oh wait...my farts are carbon.
No, there methane.
I'm curious to know if these sound restrictions have anything to do with protecting wildlife?
I have my doubts, I’ve been to silver lake quite a few times and there isn’t anything in the dunes. Wherever there is protected wildlife they close off that portion of the dunes. There is a massive off limits area where the wildlife and plant life is.
Damn.. I rmember my ducati had a stamp on the termi pipes.. "does not exceed 78 decibels at 3500rpm" ha.. good thing powerband was at 4k, LOUD
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Hello! Is it okay to use it in compilation? Full credited of course
Yes
@@evilmanhut Thanks a lot :)
Hes nothing but a phucking thief ... go make your own videos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
state law they have to be 4 feet away from muffler.
lol they were not 4 feet
Nate S nope, no need on a sled engine, especially running twin pipes into stingers.
That banshee is wild man. Were is tge shifter. At the end of the video it shows a big like metal box on the side of engine?
The reason we have nice things and nice places here in the good ol' usa is because of all the rules we have...that being said there are some laws that get enforced in one situation but not in others. Like others noted there was probably a harley that blew through after the camera shut off that didn't have a chance of passing either but no one seems to bother them as the hop from tavern to tavern.
"glad we could help you out" he says... Yeah whatever
And they wonder why we are on the streets
Lovely Sound!!
For a off-road vehicle to be ridden on state lands it has to have a US Forest Service approved spark arrestor. I've bought a number of old Enduro bikes and quads and every single one has a spark arrestor that says "Approved for use on trails by the US Forest Service". Problem is a spark arrestor purchased from a performance shop is not tested for off-road use nor is approved for use by the Forest Service. All stock spark arrestors however do have that stamping as required by law.
Everyone knows, if it's too loud put it in a truck and drive the truck in lmao They'll still check for spark arrestors though
That ATV is bad ass
what snowmobile motor you have on your banshee
I like when the cop says make sure it’s in neutral. As if there is a neutral
from what i know about the soumd they have to test it at idle form like a foot and a half away or something like that
20 inches
www.dirtrider.com/features/141_0305_exhaust_noise_test
Thats cali, it's 24 inches in Michigan where the vid is taken
now I see where the nazis went
Ron Koerner where did they go
Hey mate! How are you? Is it maybe okay if I use this video in my compilation? You will be credited in video description and with watermark also! Thanks in advance...
Sounds great, wish I had a drag bike
what's the decible limit there? I think I heard 94 db, but don't most stock MX bikes and quads reach upwards of 100+? I couldn't find any stats for my 06' 250 so I'm going out on a whim here. but that's nuts they won't let you ride the dunes with that beast, noise and sparks are of little worry out in sand.
also putting the meter right ON the pipe is going to pick up much more vibration which causes the piezoelectric crystal to vibrate more giving a false high reading, aren't these tests supposed to be done at a certian amount of feet away at a certian rpm, and then taken at a meter at wide open throttle? looks like these guys need some more training I'm sound testing. on a side note pull your clutch in when doing the test as it does reduce the db output.
There are two standardized tests.
1. 50 foot 2nd gear WOT test (this is considered a less reliable test) and the limit is 82db
2. The 20 inch test. The meter is supposed to be a minimum of 20 inches from the end of the pipe. and the limit is 96db (as of 2003)
Interestingly enough it was found that on the 20 inch test a difference in 50 rpm can drastically change the db results of the test, as can the distance of the meter from the pipe.
In the study I read they did another test after 24 hours and it revealed that the db levels of the test bikes naturally went down. It is theorized that things such as rich fuel mixture conditions and dirty air filters bring down the DB produced by a given bike.
100GTAGUY I got a rm250 Suzuki 2 stroke. and only thing kinda custom on it, is my r304 racing exhaust... I smashed that 94db... My dirtbike is loud, come on cali... The hell is this...
CrazyRedNeckModz Its pathetic isnt it?
The Misadventures of Redemption Hell yes it is. I got tickets because the damn 94db but my dad who has an Import bike. Well, a honda cbr 1000rr and it's just a little louder then my dirtbike. He kinda just gives some of the neighborhood kids rides and stuff but the elders always call the police on the noise complaint. Never test his bike on a db scale. Is it something against atvs utvs and stuff
Godamn!!! I thought California burnt down I was ready to grabb dogs burgers and beers and head to the party!!
May be in California but this video is in Michigan 🤪
The fun police at it again. Are you having fun? Yes you say? That’s not allowed!
That’s sucks. How did you convert the kick start on your banshee, to a pull start? I’m needing to do that to mine. Also Is it easy? Thanks so much.
Nrfa snowmobile engine
Hey they are doing their job. Not everything is their call. Respect them because they are the ones that uphold the law.
John Dziubinski I do respect them as you can tell I was not being confrontational at all. the purpose of this video is to prove that Silver Lake Sand Dunes does do sound decibel readings. everytime we go people always ask and nobody has a straight answer. it is almost like a myth so I posted a video to prove that they do do it and how it gets performed. But in the same sense the thing with the spark arrestor although the law is total bs in my own personal opinion.
Don't make my way over the western mich much but was or has it been a fire condition over there that warrants having the SA? Ever been to Bundy Hill, south central mich? And FWIW, I don't run a ATV. I have 2 Jeeps instead.
John Dziubinski You don't respect people for doing their jobs if their jobs are to harass and collect. You respect people for going after actual criminals.
John Dziubinski said no one ever
tc1uscg SA is required if riding on any state land or parks in MI.
Lmao he said make sure it's in nuetral 😂😂😂
Only person that caught that too
Nice quad what snowmobile engine is in it what cc ? Is it a Yamaha banshee frame ? Bet it's quick at least the cop's was cool anuff not to try and give you a ticket lol
I'm wondering why the guy closest to the exhaust does not have ear muffs
I don't understand the 94 dB restriction, isn't that an off-road vehicle? That's only 1 dB louder than what the EPA allows on a street bike.
Chad Zimmermann they are in a park. Animals live there and deserve some peace. Plus people visit to listen to nature and not that.
Dominick Fraccica If they visit for peace and nature. Why the hell are dune buggys and quads all around?
@@Combat_Medic
You don't go to an off road Park or to play in the dunes to take a gander at nature bud.
they are supposed to read ir from 4M away
"glad we could help you out" as he walks away 😂 at least everybody was cool though.
hey mate, Is it okay if I use it in compilation? you will be credited in the video and description
those were some cool officers.. and that sledshee sounds fuckin evil!! did you go to the drags?
Nothing better to do
"Glad we could help you" lol
That's the coolest vehicle ever
California has lost its marbles!!
Tum Tum michigan buddy
+Oniv Rides same dumb laws
I've seen bikes catch Woods on fire without Spark arrestors,you should always use one in less MX track only.now them being stamped ? I run pro circuit spark arrestors are removable and I have never seen one with a stamp.
What are those things on the end of the pipes I’m trying to find them for mine
As soon as he ripped that crank I was like yup it failed lol
I would've just packed my shit and left
Who's ears are it hurting? The wild life?
that thing is awesome!
Cant be to safe ya never know, when a stray spark is gonna set the sand on fire.🤣
that a banshee?
That Neon Channel yes
evilmanhut cool cool my favorite quad ever... ill have 1 one of these days when i find a good 1 ...also love them lt500 quadzillas....2 stroke allday ....sucks we didn't get to see you ride it looks like a monster
That Neon Channel I will post videos of it a Phil's sand drags soon... it's fast in 300ft
evilmanhut hell yea u gained more subs with this vid then i did in a yr lol
it is a atv with a snowmobile engine. look at the auto clutch on the drivers left side.
They were being polite, they are just doing their job
Is that a 2 cylinder snowmobile motor on that quad