I had seen so many kickstarter MMO games fail. I had serious doubts about Ashes. Now I am rooting for them they are literally the only ones who are actually going to be successful from kickstarter.
@@jjswigger8591 This games development was already fully funded long before it hit kickstarter, it was only on kickstarter to confirm interest, therefore, not a kickstarter game.
@@jjswigger8591no he isn't as he's factually right if you bothered to do a quick Google search. It was primarily funded by Steven himself. There was a kickstarter which was not to find development but give people a chance to get invested in if they wanted to.
It's still rough, but the bare bones (combat, movement feel, etc) feel very good to get your hands on. I've only been in 1 week, but I'm going through Bard withdrawal!! Great video and you seem very knowledgeable, I'm also glad to see someone admit when they were wrong. Very wise and humble! Sub earned!
Great video! I agree with pretty much everything. It honestly surprised me too, I knew the game was going to be good, I just didn't know the alpha would already be a game I want to play. Thanks for the shout out as well!
The only way to drop equipped loot is if you go RED -- meaning you out right PK another player who didn't fight back who wasn't flagged or red themself. Any other dropping of loot on death should only be inventory or percentage of inventory. People have such big misconceptions, misunderstandings, or sometimes down right delusions about the games mechanics. I think the people who try this game will end up really enjoying it. Look up old school Lineage 2 videos -- from the first 8 or so years from when the game was launched. It's gonna feel like a lot like that but with upgraded and updated systems, graphics, and combat.
i can't stop comparing this to L2, everything is so similar and I have been waiting for this for YEARS. PvP, actual PvE that matters in open world and not just aimless bujtton smashing on 100 mobs at once etc.
The best systems that every MMO should have; Meaningful world, meaningful drops, meaningful farm, meaningful players interactions due to meaningful PVP/PVE systems, and the awe of discovering farming spots to grind certain key mats, and much more.. now this is Lineage2
EVERYONE IS WRONG. its funny, so many people after like lvl 10-12 they get hooked like, DESPITE THE GAME EXPLICIT SAID WE HAVENT ADDED THE REAL CONTENT. lol
I've bought into several early access games that quickly fell apart, crashed and burned. Ashes seemed like a dream, and I took a chance and got the Voyager+ pack right as covid was shutting everything down. Ashes has been real. It really is a game being made by gamers for gamers. The company and dev team are top tier. The weekend testing has been awesome, even with the bugs and the bug reporting (which the community has been on fucking top of). In the 3 weekends we've played/tested, the amount of fixes that have been addressed and rolled out week to week has been phenominal. It's night and day difference in improvement every week, and it feels great to have a dev team working as hard as this team does. This is how an MMO should feel, imo. I think it will be a popular game, people just need to have decades of hand holding washed away. It's challenging, it's fun even in it's current state, and I'm here for it.
I used to say the same thing about action combat, but now I actually prefer it most of the time. Especially when running solo. Its rough in groups or raids for sure.
I think you can definitely prefer it for melee but I cant see it being as good in medium scale pvp with target overlap IMO, but I would love to be proven wrong.
@@JonahVeilGaming I personally love it as a tank, but even while in action mode I do use tab sometimes to change targets to pull a runaway mob back or something
nice video, love jonah being able to change his opinion AFTER he can confirm or deny anything for sure. i for one am still cautiously optimistic about ashes, but man it's looking good. i hope they succeed.
Great to hear you have changed your mind about the project, Steven's heart is what sold me on buying in. Just to let you know though, the Rogue will be introduced the first update after Phase2 Starts. So there's not going to be a new class on Dec 20th, but as you say, there will be a wipe. Have fun testing
I played Lineage 2 and ArcheAge with Steven as the guild leader and I still remember hearing him talk about the initial ideas for AOC way back when it was just an idea. So it's cool to see that it's finally getting peoples attention
The Pre launch monetized system they have in alpha is perfectly acceptable to me. If it was any other way this game would not be an independent game, it'd be run by huge corporate companies that want nothing more but more money.
I remember you from Darkfall, you made that key bind tutorial. Cool to see you still having fun in some mmorpgs. I almost ganked you in a big war but your team mates were too good for me and begoned me into lava. Nice nice, give you a sub, good luck out there!
I just started this last weekend. I was super skeptical but after watching a few weekends of play testing I had to test it myself. Turns out it has the bones to be one of the best mmos of all time.
As I have become 54 years young..... I have learned that forming opinions based on someone else's input or opinion about ANYTHING often has led me to having the wrong opinion. So I do not listen to the critiques of movies nor my guildies about games... rather I do my own homework and find out for myself. I share my findings with the constant saying "This is my opinion" go find your own on the subject. MAD RESPECT FOR @Jonah Veil Gaming mad mad respect. I will promote his stream to our 400+ members!
I really like the fact that since people didn't like their old combat system they completely rehauled the system to what we have now in A2. It feels good now. Shows they really care about the community's input.
I'm actually glad this video popped up in my feed. When MoE released and you were one of our neighbors the way you carried yourself, spoke to people and acted generally all the time I couldn't stand you. I've never seen your videos or your stream. so this is rather refreshing seeing and hearing your thoughts and you being genuine. therefore, I've decided to sub. I hope you enjoy the game of Ashes and one thing to note Stephen actually gives a shit (or at least he seems to) he listens to feedback and that alone IMO is super important. I look forward to watching a video or two in the future.
I played Dark Fall for a couple of years off and on. I enjoyed my time there, but I could never get my friends into it, so I could not stick with it for long. I only ever had one incident where someone was obviously cheating, where he took out my entire party of a dozen players by himself. But the freedom and anticipation of needing to be alert all the time in the wilds was what made it really sing to me. Really high highs.
Good video! I was surprised how much I liked Ashes also. Came in with very low expectations. Now I also think it's the only good sandbox PVP game on the horizon.
well, Welcome to the community brother! Sounds like we come from similar MMO backgrounds. I have been watching the development of Ashes for a while and hoping. All this time and it still looks like a winner.
8:20... you mean carebears? I started following this game because of Steven (Stephen?) and his love of Lineage II in particular. All the things you are saying the new generation can't handle, are the things I've longed for over the past decade and a half! Great video
Heh, ever since Darkfall shut down I've been unable to find a game that satisfied me in the same way. Everything is too safe, there is never any risk and as a result the action feels meaningless. I miss the 'shakes' you'd get from the pure adrenaline of fighting for very valuable gear/loot or even your reputation as a player (note: I was horrible!). I'm not sure if Ashes can offer that when there doesn't appear to be that same loss in death. I'm worried Ashes will just be another ArcheAge/New World/Throne&Liberty/etc.
Generally I tend to like the same games as you, I was also a bit disillusioned with the game. Still am in a way. But this is reassuring, thanks for a great review !
Long time watcher of yours, havent always agreed with you and even argued with you on stream chat before. But opinions aside, big respect for admitting you were wrong about something. A lot of creators simply never can do this.
I am using action combat and doing it competitively. Its one of the major reasons I backed the game. Also i love the action combat they have implemented, just needs some polish.
agreed, I think people are sleeping on it. Not everyone is an old 40 year old fart coming from wow. I want to feel immersed when playing not slamming my keyboard. However, the tab in this game feels good too actually.
Can you explain what action combat is? If I have to tab to target and press a number on my keyboard to auto target cast shit I’m not going to bother playing this. I want to click to attack, it’s 2024 ffs
I use action exclusively. It's bones are really good. In melee it's the way to play IMO. Aiming your cleaves feels really good. Don't expect new world action, expect ESO or GW2 action but a hint more free. You'll still tab on priority mobs in tight packs (as you do in ESO), but outside that it feels good to run around with control of your camera. They just have a lot of annoyances with menus and such because it isn't fleshed out enough.
Started to watch you on MO2, good to see you on Ashes mate, im glad you got the access gifted, its such a fun Alpha. Dont think i played an so unpolished content poor game and had such a blast. Im fricking addicted
Appreciate your objectivity. Feel like that gets lost in the discourse of this game. I’m excited to see where the devs take this game, really looking forward to it!
Nice to see this kind of video. Btw I think the game success on a wide audience depended on how well the information about the Pvp is spread to the news players.
Definitely understand the hesitation with the early info about the game. Your list of MMOs is very similar to mine, glad more people with that background are seeing the potential in Ashes.
Ha, just stumbled across this, saw my name on that raft at 1:47 and was like 'It's the guy that shot at us from the bank of the river when we were doing caravans!' haha - Dundaori
Thank you very much... I am considering playing MMOS again after a long time and Ashes has caught my attention for a while, but I wanted to hear the opinion of the community and honest words like yours before diving into this type of projects
I also love PvP in MMOs. Graphics take 2nd place behind good gameplay. Im really considering buying access this weekend but Im on the fence, thanks for the info
Good video. Surprised you didn't mention Crowfall, but I guess in comparison to the others, it was a brief stint. :P I had the exact same opinion you had about the game, and am happy to be wrong if that is indeed the case. Not crazy about the high cost to buy into testing, but I will probably end up playing - especially since the boys enjoy it. Those of us who swim in these waters, we've taken the bait before and been lured in to a bad end. It's understandable to be skeptical.
Approach this alpha game like a friend coming to you with an investment idea. The difference here from other friends is that this friend is allowing you to come in at anytime to invest while you are watching it be built and having a functioning product you can use from time to time while it's being worked on.
Respect JV, I feel this is becoming a common experience for gamers and lovers of MMOs that get a chance to actually try out Ashes. On the outside looking in, I do agree if they even get close to providing a fraction of what they are promising that the game is going to bring a lot to the genre for both PVP and PVE lovers alike in the same space. Heres to hoping.
needs to be popular enough to stay afloat and the systems to function, we will see if it makes it. Very least it will be fun for 6 months or a year after release
As someone who is new to computer gaming the action mode is the only way I can play. Tap requires to much movement for my mouse, also ppl with wrist problems that I know prefer it due to the fluidity of it and not requiring as much rapid repetition moves
i remember Steven leading the guild in my server Kyrios 'the white order '' and just destroying everything on there way before i swap server just discover ur channel and dam ur just like me i came from the good old age of Archeage (9 000 hours)and no other game truly filed up the hole Archeage did in my heart when i left it, heard abt Ashe when it was first announced and i said ill wait cause combat was so clunky , now combat seem lots better and impactful am close to give it a try i desperately need a fresh new experience
Nice video with well-explained thought processes as you learned more about the game. Just a small correction. I heard the rogue class release for phase 2 is getting delayed.
this is my first video of yours that i have seen.. seems like we have played a lot of the same games, i truly understand most of your opinions, ill be playing on phase 2. im super excited for it
I think people are going to be extremely surprised at how many people are going to play this game tbh. You're like the 3rd content creator that I've heard say that they fear this game won't be popular and I have a pretty solid feeling that it's going to take the world by storm
I think action combat is really only useful for melee classes. I do think more work needs to go into it. however, I am enjoying it as a fighter and think its a nice addition for someone coming from New World. I think I could learn to love tab from this game only because of how methodical the approach is to combat. I think the abilities take more skill and thought as opposed to only spam slamming rotations on your keyboard like most mmo's.
Nice video, i agree besides the action combat part. Action combat is very helpful and fun especially with range/healer. This is because you can lock both party member and enemy at the same time.
@DragonflyTodd You can say that they are worse in the mechanics that you think are better in Ashes but otherwise, combat history everything is better. History practically doesn't even exist in the Ashes. And to say that combat is better is pushing things too far. It's much better than previous versions but it's not better than the MMOS that already exist. Everything in Ashes could be better than these mmos, but right now it isn't
@@LuisKunha I am not sure what you mean by combat history. Also when I say combat is better than other MMOs, Throne and Liberty for example has a hybrid tab/action system and Ashes feels more fleshed out and smoother. Changing weapons on the fly and changing between tab/action combat is much smoother. The spell effects look cool and feel powerful. Auto attacks feel heavy and feel great. Movement feels good while in combat. Yes there are mob issues due to server instability but that will be fixed. What I am saying here is definitely subjective to ones own opinion, but I am having more fun in Ashes than I have had in any MMO in the past 5 years and its only in alpha. Have you played the game?
One thing im frustrated about Ashes so far is all the bugged quests and mobs that fail to spawn. I think I had to abandon like 12 within 6 hours of gameplay. I also think I wasted like an hour total waiting around for several bosses to spawn to finish a contract. They never spawned and we just disbanded and left.
Yeah doing quests is kind of pointless right now. That's not really what the alpha is currently focused on anyway. I do hope that they can come up with a decent questing system by release however, because pure grinding is a bit tiresome.
@@alimoorad5998 I have only played albion for a couple hours on mobile but from what I have seen it seems to be more of the traditional tab target style. I would describe action combat in an mmo as WASD movement and your cursor is locked in the middle of your screen as an aiming reticle and moves the camera as you move the mouse. With the soft lock in the Elder scrolls online. you essentially aim at the enemy you want to use an ability on and the ability tracks to them as if they were targeted in tab target.. but to engage a different enemy all you have to do is aim at them and it will target them instead almost like an FPS game. In my opinion this feels more fluid than trying to tab or click target a seperate enemy when switching. Sorry for the long reply kinda hard to explain without showing
@@kickrocks4766 it doesn't get a lot of love for some reason but I've put around 3000 hours into the game and I think it's done really well for an MMO. I love it
@@SlimShady-hk8qp Ohhh! Okay got it got it. That makes sense! Thanks for the explanation. Like the name suggests, it does sound more like a traditional action game or something which is cool for an MMORPG honestly! So lets say if I was a melee class and im running around and my "Q" is a spin slash...if im fighting someone and they are a little far away from me, if Im aiming at them and press "Q" will I still attack but miss? Or will it only allow me to slash if like the player is in range for the ability...I guess the same question applies for the standard auto attack. Thanks man! I appreciate it! And to be h9nest, action combat sounds amazing!!!
Happy for you, brother man! Glad it's a good kind of wrong. It could have been a lot worse if you thought it was legit and it turned out to be a scam. Scepticism saves you from being dissappointed in others.
Great video man, i had doubts about AoC until i played the alpha2, game even in this alpha states has what i look the most in a game, something that's not tied with shit weeklies and dailies to make your gear or you fall off. The open world pvp, the corruption system everything seems perfect and i knwo people are scared about losing "items" but i hope they give it a shot and they will realize that losing only materials isn't that bad and also the corruption system will work in their favor. So far impressed, i hope they dont do a 180 like new world and turn it into an opt-in pvp, especially after asmongold got spawncamped
Rogue got pushed but just so you know. They had to pull the team off to work on class adjustments in phase 2. They are hoping that it’ll follow soon but don’t have an exact expectation yet, least from what I’ve read.
Im happy you are enjoying the game but i truly believe embark will give us exactly what the said. Steven seems to be the type of person to truly give it his all when it comes to something he is passionate about. He has picked an amazing group of people to work with and I highly respect them all. They’re so talented and it shows each progress update and now during this Alpha 2 state. Im beyond excited for this game and I cant wait to play!!!
I watched alot of the content and was not impressed bit i decided to try it and was surprised by how good the combat felt and how abilities felt impactful im looking forward to multi class come dec. The environments are nice and immersive the sounds are great and the graphics are nice over all
PVP MMO's are great. Ive never played an MMO properly untill Albion Online...and the only reason I started Albion Online is because of full loot PVP..and im not disappointed. Infact, all I ever do is just corrupted dungeons (I suck at them though).
I think with ashes they are doing the right things for what they are wanting their mmo to be and do. To me it reminds of of eve online but on a planet itself with how they are marketing it myself personally and interests me a lot (but I ain’t paying $120 for alpha play testing lol). Watching others play it I see the appeal and when it comes further along maybe I will give it a go, see if I like it. I only hope them continue on this path of making something unique that wouldn’t have a lot of competition with what it is going for, I think the moment they start pulling away from that they might see people start to leave and I hope that does not happen I want to see this game succeed personally.
Small world, I remember you from Darkfall as well, I was in Warbound (for the most part) and we fought against and with you for a number of months. I remember you being the menace of Yssam and your trolling in chat lol, you going to have a guild in Ashes? I remember you being more of a lone wolf.
My concerns rn are 3 things. 1. The proposed map is too large for 10k concurrent players escpecially with sailing 2. Leveling taking too long for majority of players to stay playing 3. Getting everything they want implemented and polished in a somewhat reasonable amount of time. Glad the combat plays better than it looks, feels like unpolished GW2 combat rn (which isnt a bad thing).
I agree with the first thing, but I'm sure they'll get an idea of what it's like as time goes on and will adjust if need be. The thing with the levelling. A lot of people prefer questing to grinding and I'm really not sure they are invested in making lots of really cool quests that flow in a way that makes all of the people who play stuff like wow comfortable enough to dip their toes into a game like this, which I think is a shame. Not that I want it to be like wow, but I feel like really solid questing is super important. The third thing you said, I actually have the most faith in them getting done. They're going to outsource a lot of the work and really ramp everything up once they have riverlands sorted and working well.
Interesting video. I know that you are more mmo orientated but you should try out DayZ. Sounds like a perfect game for you, only drawback is its very FPS orientated. But the game is very much rust meets tarkov imo. Playing private servers were the community developed mods is tons of fun. Game is very overlooked. ESO is my favorite game ive been hoping that Ashes replaces the amazing feeling i got when i first started years ago.
You know. I don't want people to kill me and take my stuff. But i dont mind a game where they can. Because the choice to do that crap alows me to chose not to. And choices are cool in games.
But you get so much hours in alpha and beta, and one free month, and 15 ingame currency - how can you possibly say it is not worth it? You should do the calc
Is it still gonna be a minimum of $120 to play it for the next test? Because that was insane to me. With virtually no bonus upon actual release (1 month sub?? bruh) Between that, having a FOMO shop/microtransactions on TOP of that price, there was no way it felt right. Not sure how true it is, but I also read about a lawsuit from the city of california for them not paying taxes or something. All just too many red flags for me. But thank you for sharing this. I am interested but not $120-for-limited-playtime interested.
I don't agree about the world design. I too often encounter buildings or sceneries which just seem like assets slapped into the world (smells like AI tbh). Ancient (thousands year old) castles that look brand new, not integrating well into the terrain, etc. Mismatch between the lore and the visuals. To me the world is indeed big, but not always well designed, totally not comparable to WOW classic. Love this vid though, honest thoughts, liked it and subbed
I gues will see how it goes. Nothing worth wile is ever ez. Looks like its been a long time in the making, and still needs alot of work. I have seen alot of construction, and its not always pretty at the beginning.
Its hard for people these days to admit they were wrong. Full respect brutha.
@CestPasFaux-kt9zqi dont think it will. And honestly why do you not give it a chance even after the current alpha 2?
@CestPasFaux-kt9zq why so salty and a doomer? Lol
I had seen so many kickstarter MMO games fail. I had serious doubts about Ashes. Now I am rooting for them they are literally the only ones who are actually going to be successful from kickstarter.
It's not a Kickstarter game thankfully
@@UrBigFanyes it is lol. It started on Kickstarter.
@@UrBigFan are u trolling?
@@jjswigger8591 This games development was already fully funded long before it hit kickstarter, it was only on kickstarter to confirm interest, therefore, not a kickstarter game.
@@jjswigger8591no he isn't as he's factually right if you bothered to do a quick Google search. It was primarily funded by Steven himself. There was a kickstarter which was not to find development but give people a chance to get invested in if they wanted to.
It's still rough, but the bare bones (combat, movement feel, etc) feel very good to get your hands on. I've only been in 1 week, but I'm going through Bard withdrawal!!
Great video and you seem very knowledgeable, I'm also glad to see someone admit when they were wrong. Very wise and humble! Sub earned!
Right! Combat is really good, a lot of mmos do not get it right ever
Great video! I agree with pretty much everything. It honestly surprised me too, I knew the game was going to be good, I just didn't know the alpha would already be a game I want to play. Thanks for the shout out as well!
The only way to drop equipped loot is if you go RED -- meaning you out right PK another player who didn't fight back who wasn't flagged or red themself.
Any other dropping of loot on death should only be inventory or percentage of inventory.
People have such big misconceptions, misunderstandings, or sometimes down right delusions about the games mechanics. I think the people who try this game will end up really enjoying it.
Look up old school Lineage 2 videos -- from the first 8 or so years from when the game was launched. It's gonna feel like a lot like that but with upgraded and updated systems, graphics, and combat.
i can't stop comparing this to L2, everything is so similar and I have been waiting for this for YEARS. PvP, actual PvE that matters in open world and not just aimless bujtton smashing on 100 mobs at once etc.
Sorry I say full loot accidentally but I understand how the systems work.
The best systems that every MMO should have; Meaningful world, meaningful drops, meaningful farm, meaningful players interactions due to meaningful PVP/PVE systems, and the awe of discovering farming spots to grind certain key mats, and much more.. now this is Lineage2
I played Ultima and I remember you from Darkfall for years. I started Ashes last weekend too. It's good.
EVERYONE IS WRONG. its funny, so many people after like lvl 10-12 they get hooked like, DESPITE THE GAME EXPLICIT SAID WE HAVENT ADDED THE REAL CONTENT. lol
I've bought into several early access games that quickly fell apart, crashed and burned. Ashes seemed like a dream, and I took a chance and got the Voyager+ pack right as covid was shutting everything down.
Ashes has been real. It really is a game being made by gamers for gamers. The company and dev team are top tier. The weekend testing has been awesome, even with the bugs and the bug reporting (which the community has been on fucking top of). In the 3 weekends we've played/tested, the amount of fixes that have been addressed and rolled out week to week has been phenominal. It's night and day difference in improvement every week, and it feels great to have a dev team working as hard as this team does.
This is how an MMO should feel, imo. I think it will be a popular game, people just need to have decades of hand holding washed away. It's challenging, it's fun even in it's current state, and I'm here for it.
I used to say the same thing about action combat, but now I actually prefer it most of the time. Especially when running solo. Its rough in groups or raids for sure.
I think you can definitely prefer it for melee but I cant see it being as good in medium scale pvp with target overlap IMO, but I would love to be proven wrong.
@@JonahVeilGaming I personally love it as a tank, but even while in action mode I do use tab sometimes to change targets to pull a runaway mob back or something
nice video, love jonah being able to change his opinion AFTER he can confirm or deny anything for sure. i for one am still cautiously optimistic about ashes, but man it's looking good. i hope they succeed.
Great to hear you have changed your mind about the project, Steven's heart is what sold me on buying in.
Just to let you know though, the Rogue will be introduced the first update after Phase2 Starts.
So there's not going to be a new class on Dec 20th, but as you say, there will be a wipe.
Have fun testing
Yaaa I heard it wasnt the 20th after lol oh well
Oh good. I was fearing that everyone is going to pick rouge for a second
I played Lineage 2 and ArcheAge with Steven as the guild leader and I still remember hearing him talk about the initial ideas for AOC way back when it was just an idea. So it's cool to see that it's finally getting peoples attention
The Pre launch monetized system they have in alpha is perfectly acceptable to me. If it was any other way this game would not be an independent game, it'd be run by huge corporate companies that want nothing more but more money.
I mean I get it from a business standpoint, from a consumer standpoint it's a a lot to digest if you're not already INTO the project.
I remember you from Darkfall, you made that key bind tutorial.
Cool to see you still having fun in some mmorpgs.
I almost ganked you in a big war but your team mates were too good for me and begoned me into lava.
Nice nice, give you a sub, good luck out there!
Lol him and his entire guild hacked in darkfall.
Hahah, glad to be remembered.
Loved your Darkfall videos! Happy to hear you are having fun and look forward to seeing what you do in it.
Darkfall! Best game ever tbh
I just started this last weekend. I was super skeptical but after watching a few weekends of play testing I had to test it myself. Turns out it has the bones to be one of the best mmos of all time.
Welcome to the community! We love for new people to come and join us as we impatiently wait for the game to release
As I have become 54 years young..... I have learned that forming opinions based on someone else's input or opinion about ANYTHING often has led me to having the wrong opinion. So I do not listen to the critiques of movies nor my guildies about games... rather I do my own homework and find out for myself. I share my findings with the constant saying "This is my opinion" go find your own on the subject. MAD RESPECT FOR @Jonah Veil Gaming mad mad respect. I will promote his stream to our 400+ members!
I really like the fact that since people didn't like their old combat system they completely rehauled the system to what we have now in A2. It feels good now. Shows they really care about the community's input.
Our guild has been having an absolute blast in Ashes Alpha. Loving it. Never seen a dev team fix bugs and add content so quickly and efficiently.
I'm actually glad this video popped up in my feed. When MoE released and you were one of our neighbors the way you carried yourself, spoke to people and acted generally all the time I couldn't stand you. I've never seen your videos or your stream. so this is rather refreshing seeing and hearing your thoughts and you being genuine. therefore, I've decided to sub. I hope you enjoy the game of Ashes and one thing to note Stephen actually gives a shit (or at least he seems to) he listens to feedback and that alone IMO is super important. I look forward to watching a video or two in the future.
I played Dark Fall for a couple of years off and on. I enjoyed my time there, but I could never get my friends into it, so I could not stick with it for long.
I only ever had one incident where someone was obviously cheating, where he took out my entire party of a dozen players by himself. But the freedom and anticipation of needing to be alert all the time in the wilds was what made it really sing to me. Really high highs.
One of my favorite games ever.
Good video! I was surprised how much I liked Ashes also. Came in with very low expectations. Now I also think it's the only good sandbox PVP game on the horizon.
well, Welcome to the community brother! Sounds like we come from similar MMO backgrounds. I have been watching the development of Ashes for a while and hoping. All this time and it still looks like a winner.
8:20... you mean carebears? I started following this game because of Steven (Stephen?) and his love of Lineage II in particular. All the things you are saying the new generation can't handle, are the things I've longed for over the past decade and a half! Great video
I wish I would have never heard about this game. Feels like I have been waiting forever and have another forever to wait.
Heh, ever since Darkfall shut down I've been unable to find a game that satisfied me in the same way. Everything is too safe, there is never any risk and as a result the action feels meaningless. I miss the 'shakes' you'd get from the pure adrenaline of fighting for very valuable gear/loot or even your reputation as a player (note: I was horrible!).
I'm not sure if Ashes can offer that when there doesn't appear to be that same loss in death. I'm worried Ashes will just be another ArcheAge/New World/Throne&Liberty/etc.
The fact you admit you were wrong is why I subscribed bro
Generally I tend to like the same games as you, I was also a bit disillusioned with the game. Still am in a way. But this is reassuring, thanks for a great review !
Long time watcher of yours, havent always agreed with you and even argued with you on stream chat before. But opinions aside, big respect for admitting you were wrong about something. A lot of creators simply never can do this.
Appreciate you even if we don't agree on things, called being human.
I am using action combat and doing it competitively. Its one of the major reasons I backed the game. Also i love the action combat they have implemented, just needs some polish.
agreed, I think people are sleeping on it. Not everyone is an old 40 year old fart coming from wow. I want to feel immersed when playing not slamming my keyboard. However, the tab in this game feels good too actually.
There is almost no skill element involved in the ''action'' combat they've implemented though...It is pretty much 90% tab with some 'action' elements
Can you explain what action combat is? If I have to tab to target and press a number on my keyboard to auto target cast shit I’m not going to bother playing this. I want to click to attack, it’s 2024 ffs
Nice to find a player who played UO., was my fav game of all time. EQ was great as well on Ralloz Zek!
i'm thinking about joining up for phase 2 after seeing all of the gameplay from phase 1. it still looks rough, but i'm impressed so far
I use action exclusively. It's bones are really good. In melee it's the way to play IMO. Aiming your cleaves feels really good. Don't expect new world action, expect ESO or GW2 action but a hint more free. You'll still tab on priority mobs in tight packs (as you do in ESO), but outside that it feels good to run around with control of your camera. They just have a lot of annoyances with menus and such because it isn't fleshed out enough.
Started to watch you on MO2, good to see you on Ashes mate, im glad you got the access gifted, its such a fun Alpha. Dont think i played an so unpolished content poor game and had such a blast. Im fricking addicted
Appreciate your objectivity. Feel like that gets lost in the discourse of this game. I’m excited to see where the devs take this game, really looking forward to it!
Love this video! Great commentary, your prior view closely mirrors mine, you have giving me hope!
You lose gear if you are corrupted...the rest is not that significant for me a few mats and xp is whatever.
It will be significant to wow players for sure.
I love action combat on my tank. It works and feels great. You can still tab target and auto attack in it.
Nice to see this kind of video. Btw I think the game success on a wide audience depended on how well the information about the Pvp is spread to the news players.
Daelyx Ironheart from Darkfall , not sure if you recall but nice to see you mate
Definitely understand the hesitation with the early info about the game. Your list of MMOs is very similar to mine, glad more people with that background are seeing the potential in Ashes.
Great review. Glad to see Ashes is already growing on ppl
Ha, just stumbled across this, saw my name on that raft at 1:47 and was like 'It's the guy that shot at us from the bank of the river when we were doing caravans!' haha - Dundaori
Was fun messing with yall!
Thank you very much... I am considering playing MMOS again after a long time and Ashes has caught my attention for a while, but I wanted to hear the opinion of the community and honest words like yours before diving into this type of projects
I also love PvP in MMOs. Graphics take 2nd place behind good gameplay. Im really considering buying access this weekend but Im on the fence, thanks for the info
People do need to remember despite all the hype this thing is over a year away and possibly significantly longer. I am looking forward to it though.
Good video. Surprised you didn't mention Crowfall, but I guess in comparison to the others, it was a brief stint. :P I had the exact same opinion you had about the game, and am happy to be wrong if that is indeed the case. Not crazy about the high cost to buy into testing, but I will probably end up playing - especially since the boys enjoy it. Those of us who swim in these waters, we've taken the bait before and been lured in to a bad end. It's understandable to be skeptical.
Approach this alpha game like a friend coming to you with an investment idea. The difference here from other friends is that this friend is allowing you to come in at anytime to invest while you are watching it be built and having a functioning product you can use from time to time while it's being worked on.
DarkFall? Damn, that takes me back.
Respect JV, I feel this is becoming a common experience for gamers and lovers of MMOs that get a chance to actually try out Ashes. On the outside looking in, I do agree if they even get close to providing a fraction of what they are promising that the game is going to bring a lot to the genre for both PVP and PVE lovers alike in the same space. Heres to hoping.
needs to be popular enough to stay afloat and the systems to function, we will see if it makes it. Very least it will be fun for 6 months or a year after release
As someone who is new to computer gaming the action mode is the only way I can play. Tap requires to much movement for my mouse, also ppl with wrist problems that I know prefer it due to the fluidity of it and not requiring as much rapid repetition moves
Never said it can't be a preferred method, just doesn't compete with tab in terms of response time IMO.
Rogue isn't going to drop at the beginning of phase 2, but it'll be in before the end or so I've heard
i remember Steven leading the guild in my server Kyrios 'the white order '' and just destroying everything on there way before i swap server
just discover ur channel and dam ur just like me i came from the good old age of Archeage (9 000 hours)and no other game truly filed up the hole Archeage did in my heart when i left it, heard abt Ashe when it was first announced and i said ill wait cause combat was so clunky , now combat seem lots better and impactful am close to give it a try i desperately need a fresh new experience
Feels a lot like Archeage, in a good way, def give it a spin Dec 20 or phase after.
@JonahVeilGaming yeahhh already made my mind i bought alpha 2 🗝️ waiting to Friday to join the fun 😊
Nice video with well-explained thought processes as you learned more about the game.
Just a small correction. I heard the rogue class release for phase 2 is getting delayed.
I heard ya sorry bout the misinfo. But still phase 2 I heard.
Nah, you were just farming engagement, because "AoC bad and p2w, developers are scammers" was trending at the time.
Huh? I barely upload anything to youtube.
this is my first video of yours that i have seen.. seems like we have played a lot of the same games, i truly understand most of your opinions, ill be playing on phase 2. im super excited for it
I think people are going to be extremely surprised at how many people are going to play this game tbh. You're like the 3rd content creator that I've heard say that they fear this game won't be popular and I have a pretty solid feeling that it's going to take the world by storm
I would love to be proven wrong, yet again.
I think action combat is really only useful for melee classes. I do think more work needs to go into it. however, I am enjoying it as a fighter and think its a nice addition for someone coming from New World. I think I could learn to love tab from this game only because of how methodical the approach is to combat. I think the abilities take more skill and thought as opposed to only spam slamming rotations on your keyboard like most mmo's.
Nice video, i agree besides the action combat part. Action combat is very helpful and fun especially with range/healer. This is because you can lock both party member and enemy at the same time.
Where can i find that wallpaper, the knight in the rain from the beggining of the video
Even from just playing the Alpha, the bare bones loop feels better than the released MMOs I have been playing.
Which MMOS have you played that are worse than the Ashes Alpha? Say the names
@ Lol ok, less fun for me: Throne and Liberty, WoW, FF14, BDO… should I list more or does this satisfy your request?
@DragonflyTodd You can say that they are worse in the mechanics that you think are better in Ashes but otherwise, combat history everything is better. History practically doesn't even exist in the Ashes. And to say that combat is better is pushing things too far. It's much better than previous versions but it's not better than the MMOS that already exist. Everything in Ashes could be better than these mmos, but right now it isn't
@@LuisKunha I am not sure what you mean by combat history. Also when I say combat is better than other MMOs, Throne and Liberty for example has a hybrid tab/action system and Ashes feels more fleshed out and smoother. Changing weapons on the fly and changing between tab/action combat is much smoother. The spell effects look cool and feel powerful. Auto attacks feel heavy and feel great. Movement feels good while in combat. Yes there are mob issues due to server instability but that will be fixed. What I am saying here is definitely subjective to ones own opinion, but I am having more fun in Ashes than I have had in any MMO in the past 5 years and its only in alpha. Have you played the game?
i was expecting a disapontment with this game, but i think you menaged to hype me :P
One thing im frustrated about Ashes so far is all the bugged quests and mobs that fail to spawn. I think I had to abandon like 12 within 6 hours of gameplay. I also think I wasted like an hour total waiting around for several bosses to spawn to finish a contract. They never spawned and we just disbanded and left.
Yeah doing quests is kind of pointless right now. That's not really what the alpha is currently focused on anyway. I do hope that they can come up with a decent questing system by release however, because pure grinding is a bit tiresome.
Ya dont hyper focus on quests, they said its not really implemented properly. The new map stuff they did this weekend was HUGE.
Action combat with a soft lock like in ESO is superior to any other combat form in an MMO in my opinion
What would you say Albion Combat is like? And what exavtly is action combat? Thanks!
@@alimoorad5998 I have only played albion for a couple hours on mobile but from what I have seen it seems to be more of the traditional tab target style. I would describe action combat in an mmo as WASD movement and your cursor is locked in the middle of your screen as an aiming reticle and moves the camera as you move the mouse. With the soft lock in the Elder scrolls online. you essentially aim at the enemy you want to use an ability on and the ability tracks to them as if they were targeted in tab target.. but to engage a different enemy all you have to do is aim at them and it will target them instead almost like an FPS game. In my opinion this feels more fluid than trying to tab or click target a seperate enemy when switching. Sorry for the long reply kinda hard to explain without showing
@@SlimShady-hk8qpI really enjoyed ESO pvp it felt unique for an mmo pvp
@@kickrocks4766 it doesn't get a lot of love for some reason but I've put around 3000 hours into the game and I think it's done really well for an MMO. I love it
@@SlimShady-hk8qp Ohhh! Okay got it got it. That makes sense! Thanks for the explanation. Like the name suggests, it does sound more like a traditional action game or something which is cool for an MMORPG honestly! So lets say if I was a melee class and im running around and my "Q" is a spin slash...if im fighting someone and they are a little far away from me, if Im aiming at them and press "Q" will I still attack but miss? Or will it only allow me to slash if like the player is in range for the ability...I guess the same question applies for the standard auto attack. Thanks man! I appreciate it! And to be h9nest, action combat sounds amazing!!!
I’m not looking for a participation game. I’m excited for the high risk reward
What time does the game go live tomorrow? November 15th
hes basically making true what he said 10 years ago "im gonna make a better archeage and heal the community"
what was your leveling route getting to 15 in 2 days seems insane
Group grinding most probably elites hours and hours and hours
If you get some good groups it flies. But I did quite a chunk soloing on the ranger at daragal estates just doing the 2-3 stars by myself.
Happy for you, brother man! Glad it's a good kind of wrong. It could have been a lot worse if you thought it was legit and it turned out to be a scam. Scepticism saves you from being dissappointed in others.
Great video man, i had doubts about AoC until i played the alpha2, game even in this alpha states has what i look the most in a game, something that's not tied with shit weeklies and dailies to make your gear or you fall off. The open world pvp, the corruption system everything seems perfect and i knwo people are scared about losing "items" but i hope they give it a shot and they will realize that losing only materials isn't that bad and also the corruption system will work in their favor.
So far impressed, i hope they dont do a 180 like new world and turn it into an opt-in pvp, especially after asmongold got spawncamped
Rogue got pushed but just so you know. They had to pull the team off to work on class adjustments in phase 2. They are hoping that it’ll follow soon but don’t have an exact expectation yet, least from what I’ve read.
Yaaa just found that out lol
@ I’m slightly disappointed lol
Does that mean summoner isn't in either yet?
@ I don’t think summoner was coming till phase 3
Im happy you are enjoying the game but i truly believe embark will give us exactly what the said. Steven seems to be the type of person to truly give it his all when it comes to something he is passionate about. He has picked an amazing group of people to work with and I highly respect them all. They’re so talented and it shows each progress update and now during this Alpha 2 state. Im beyond excited for this game and I cant wait to play!!!
I'm mixed on PvP mmos. I love pvp. But I like it to be on my terms. :) I did love games like Warhammer Online and Dark Age of Camelot.
Great video mate, very genuine. Keep it up.
I watched alot of the content and was not impressed bit i decided to try it and was surprised by how good the combat felt and how abilities felt impactful im looking forward to multi class come dec. The environments are nice and immersive the sounds are great and the graphics are nice over all
i miss darkfall online so much. nothing comes close. not even the multiple spin off/sequels.
I want to play Ranger or bard, maybe a combo of the two like a bow bard like I had in BG3
Im a lifetime sub owner, and I'm waiting for tulnar in 2025.
See ya then nerd.
PVP MMO's are great. Ive never played an MMO properly untill Albion Online...and the only reason I started Albion Online is because of full loot PVP..and im not disappointed. Infact, all I ever do is just corrupted dungeons (I suck at them though).
Bro. Great video.
Is this game click to attack or all target locking enemies and pressing keys like mmos from 30 years ago?
kinda both tho, play action cam then u can left click to basic attacks and press buttons like evry other mmo
I think with ashes they are doing the right things for what they are wanting their mmo to be and do. To me it reminds of of eve online but on a planet itself with how they are marketing it myself personally and interests me a lot (but I ain’t paying $120 for alpha play testing lol). Watching others play it I see the appeal and when it comes further along maybe I will give it a go, see if I like it. I only hope them continue on this path of making something unique that wouldn’t have a lot of competition with what it is going for, I think the moment they start pulling away from that they might see people start to leave and I hope that does not happen I want to see this game succeed personally.
Keep being real, bud! Good for you!
Haven't tried it. Watched a lot of streams including yours, I like what I see.
- ggwplayz
Small world, I remember you from Darkfall as well, I was in Warbound (for the most part) and we fought against and with you for a number of months. I remember you being the menace of Yssam and your trolling in chat lol, you going to have a guild in Ashes? I remember you being more of a lone wolf.
Ya I run a decently sized community that roams to survival/sandbox mmos. Always good to see a Darkfall homie.
@@JonahVeilGaming cool, i may come find you guys in ashes when the time is right, you guys playing dune?
@@boomssifu2950 ya waiting on the NDA for dune to lift though
My concerns rn are 3 things.
1. The proposed map is too large for 10k concurrent players escpecially with sailing
2. Leveling taking too long for majority of players to stay playing
3. Getting everything they want implemented and polished in a somewhat reasonable amount of time.
Glad the combat plays better than it looks, feels like unpolished GW2 combat rn (which isnt a bad thing).
I agree with the first thing, but I'm sure they'll get an idea of what it's like as time goes on and will adjust if need be.
The thing with the levelling. A lot of people prefer questing to grinding and I'm really not sure they are invested in making lots of really cool quests that flow in a way that makes all of the people who play stuff like wow comfortable enough to dip their toes into a game like this, which I think is a shame. Not that I want it to be like wow, but I feel like really solid questing is super important.
The third thing you said, I actually have the most faith in them getting done. They're going to outsource a lot of the work and really ramp everything up once they have riverlands sorted and working well.
i see ur point but its not even that long, get a decent group grind some spots, did 16-20 today in like 3 hours
Interesting video. I know that you are more mmo orientated but you should try out DayZ. Sounds like a perfect game for you, only drawback is its very FPS orientated. But the game is very much rust meets tarkov imo. Playing private servers were the community developed mods is tons of fun. Game is very overlooked. ESO is my favorite game ive been hoping that Ashes replaces the amazing feeling i got when i first started years ago.
You know. I don't want people to kill me and take my stuff. But i dont mind a game where they can. Because the choice to do that crap alows me to chose not to. And choices are cool in games.
The gameplay is looking more and more like Guild Wars 2. Which is not a bad thing at all for large scale PvP.
But you get so much hours in alpha and beta, and one free month, and 15 ingame currency - how can you possibly say it is not worth it? You should do the calc
More so not worth for average gamers who don't know what testing phases are.
Thanks for the honest opinion! Appreciate it.
I thought the alpha was a good start. I’m excited to see more content and systems added.
Is it still gonna be a minimum of $120 to play it for the next test? Because that was insane to me. With virtually no bonus upon actual release (1 month sub?? bruh) Between that, having a FOMO shop/microtransactions on TOP of that price, there was no way it felt right. Not sure how true it is, but I also read about a lawsuit from the city of california for them not paying taxes or something. All just too many red flags for me. But thank you for sharing this. I am interested but not $120-for-limited-playtime interested.
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I don't agree about the world design. I too often encounter buildings or sceneries which just seem like assets slapped into the world (smells like AI tbh). Ancient (thousands year old) castles that look brand new, not integrating well into the terrain, etc. Mismatch between the lore and the visuals. To me the world is indeed big, but not always well designed, totally not comparable to WOW classic. Love this vid though, honest thoughts, liked it and subbed
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Tab for ranged, action for melee
Steven is our kind of degen.
I gues will see how it goes. Nothing worth wile is ever ez. Looks like its been a long time in the making, and still needs alot of work. I have seen alot of construction, and its not always pretty at the beginning.