Who is the Greatest VAMPIRE in the Elder Scrolls?

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  • Who is the Greatest Vampire in the Elder Scrolls? Well, there are certainly quite a few contenders we can bite our teeth into, so let's find out who!!!!
    Intro - 0:00
    Verandis Ravenwatch - 1:43
    Lord Harkon - 5:13
    Vyrthur - 7:20
    Lamae Bal - 10:07
    Honorable Mentions - 12:57
    ??? - 14:15
    Outro - 17:22
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  • @masterneloth
    @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    🧙‍♂️Someone I forgot to mention on this list was Janus Hassildor from Oblivion who was the Count of Skingrad. While not the greatest or most powerful, I think he should have been mentioned because of how he ruled the best city in Cyrodiil and helped fight against the Worm Cult.
    In the future I plan to ask people who they think is the greatest _____ in the community section before writing a script just to make sure I don’t miss anyone in the future. 🧙‍♂️

    • @pandorasbox4238
      @pandorasbox4238 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hammerfell was inhabited by several human tribes and the Durenni (sp) Elves. I never heard about loads of goblins.

    • @SilverSurrepstitious
      @SilverSurrepstitious 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We need a "who is the greatest Aylied" video! I'd love to know your opinion on the matter :D

  • @lordedmundblackadder9321
    @lordedmundblackadder9321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +600

    Imagine being a new vampire and you’re excited to live forever and then Lord Volkihar has an assignment for you and he says “go kill the Dragonborn, he’s part of the Dawnguard” and you’re just like “well shit”

    • @__KXNG__
      @__KXNG__ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      “Lord Volkihar”💀💀💀 you mean Harkon?

    • @lordedmundblackadder9321
      @lordedmundblackadder9321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      @@__KXNG__ Considering his domain is called "Castle Volkihar", I would assume based on aristocratic naming conventions that his names is really Harkon, Lord Volkihar (or Lord of Volkihar). However, as Lord is not really a proper aristocratic title and rather a form of adress, I would instead place him (based on the size of his fiefdom) as a baron or count.

    • @user-tp5yb4hr4w
      @user-tp5yb4hr4w 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@lordedmundblackadder9321
      that would actually make for a great story actually, but some things would need changing like the age of the DB, like maybe when he's far older he can be killed, maybe.
      but according to the lore that castle was made before they ever lived in it, so call that what you may, funny enough also in the lore, Harkon was sort of the king of skyrim, well a large portion of it back in his time before he and his family became immortal, this is explained in the in-game dialogue when speaking to him.
      it's too bad the base game doesn't offer a realistic way of renovating the entire castle to it's former glory when you beat him, but also it would have been nice to take over the location via the dawnguard winning, because at that point it could be repurposed and used as another faction location for the dawnguard, i think a lot of locations across the skyrim map could work like this, kind of like when you kill an bandit gang location and the empire take fort and become it's new owners, it would have been cool if that was a choice for the player to make, so whatever faction you wanted to dominate the land, you have the choice to convert each and every fort location into your faction of choice location to claim for themselves.

    • @wolflord9422
      @wolflord9422 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Right lmao “you mean the one that has that enchanted sword that unalived my cousin Earl, and used his wife as a reanimated killing machine, and emptied out a vampire den?…consider it done!”

    • @FosterC144
      @FosterC144 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yeah, I know he killed Alduiin, lord of all dragons and like...all of the dragon priests but you got this fledgling, I believe in you 👍

  • @mesektet5776
    @mesektet5776 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +154

    Valerica: “When Harkon planned to blot out our sun, Harkon crossed that line between, everyday villainy and cartoonish super-villainy!”

    • @insertusername9755
      @insertusername9755 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Advanced stupidity!

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the plan was stupid. Sure he can move freely at daytime, but he also kills off his food's food. Humans need food, and that means either plants, or animals, the latter eating plants again. And plants need sunlight.

  • @chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266
    @chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +328

    "Vyrthur is possibly stronger than Harkon."
    Me who simply used one Unrelenting Force to defeat him: "X to doubt"

    • @theseb1979
      @theseb1979 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don’t be a peasant

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

      Vyrthur was just unfortunate enough to be right in front of a ledge.

    • @laxelford3533
      @laxelford3533 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      ​@@masterneloththe greatest curse

    • @chadharger9323
      @chadharger9323 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Full Cyclone also works if aimed right.

    • @hunterwilliams2833
      @hunterwilliams2833 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Lore wise Harkon is probably stronger because his form of vampirism is closer to the source(Molag Bal). It’s a stronger form of vampirism.

  • @FricknA
    @FricknA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Damn, I was going to nominate my op Dragonborn Khajiit vampire.

  • @mark5222
    @mark5222 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    How did Harkon acquire his vampire lord form? The killing of innocents is probably just a cover for him bending over Molag's Balls.

    • @kennak.3446
      @kennak.3446 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Valerica or Serena turned him

    • @mathiaschristensen1194
      @mathiaschristensen1194 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@kennak.3446 ? Molag Bal literally turned him lmao.

    • @JoshuaKevinPerry
      @JoshuaKevinPerry 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@@mathiaschristensen1194Turned him out

    • @hunterwilliams2833
      @hunterwilliams2833 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He sacrificed his wife and daughter to get it.

    • @mathiaschristensen1194
      @mathiaschristensen1194 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hunterwilliams2833 No he didnt bro lol.

  • @SrChr778
    @SrChr778 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +194

    The way that Verandis can hide his vampire appearance, I believe that's what they refer to as "Cyrodiilic Vampires", the types that are virtually impossible to detect. It's referenced in the book 'Immortal Blood' found in Skyrim.

    • @TheGyldenaut
      @TheGyldenaut 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      those Vampires you’re talking about are actually the “Cyrodiilic Order of Vampires”, not just Cyrodiilic Vampires.
      The Common Cyrodiilic Vampire came from the disease Porphyric Hemophilia and are easy to distinguish, along with a crippling weakness to the sun.
      The Cyrodiilic Order is basically Vampire Illuminati in the province of Cyrodiil, Count Janus Hassildor in Oblivion is even a member* (unconfirmed but he does show up in the UESW page about them). They eliminated the other bloodlines and tribes from Cyrodiil and maintain relations with other Vampiric Groups/Daedra Worshippers in other provinces as to not cause wars, 2 of which are mentioned in their book, “Manifesto Cyrodiil Vampyrum”, which are the Whet-Fang Vampires of Black Marsh and the Glenmoril Wyrd of High Rock, though also found in Skyrim (the Glenmoril Witches you kill in the Companions Questline).

    • @josephrivera3649
      @josephrivera3649 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Hmm so you must be a tzemitsce

    • @josephrivera3649
      @josephrivera3649 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Oh wait sorry I mistook your wallpaper for another

  • @TheTrueBigWill
    @TheTrueBigWill 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    Touching the Sky is my favourite quest in the entire game and I will never forget facing Vyrthur for the first time, dude doesn’t get enough recognition!

    • @olorin6494
      @olorin6494 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I do believe he is the strongest vampire by level he caps at lvl 75

    • @Arsoonist
      @Arsoonist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@olorin6494I mean yes technically but he doesn't use any vampiric powers like other vampires. He's just a strong guy that turned into a vampire not a vampire that's strong.

    • @PsycholemartheOmnipotent
      @PsycholemartheOmnipotent 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same, i was really shocked.

  • @colly407
    @colly407 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Ironic how the first vampire HATED molag bal and yet there are still people (or vampires) who worship him after that anyway

    • @akuladoctor7355
      @akuladoctor7355 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There is no relations between her, and other pureblood vampires. Well except maybe the stories of how awesome she became. A pacifist priest turned into a killing machine. Even more she is immortal. Such power sounds awesome to many, and while the price is being bound to Coldharbour upon death those who willingly go vampire gamble on living forever, and thus avoiding the punishment.

  • @xDarnelx
    @xDarnelx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Whilst it is most likely a glitch Babette can turn you into a Vampire with no de-buffs. This is part of cut content but I think it's still worth mentioning.

    • @absolutesilva6010
      @absolutesilva6010 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      How do I do this ???

    • @iananderson4754
      @iananderson4754 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i want to know as well

    • @xDarnelx
      @xDarnelx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iananderson4754 mb i didnt see the original reply that said this, There's a mod called The Cutting Room floor that restores cut content and after installing it you'll get a new dialouge prompt when speaking with Babette.

    • @xDarnelx
      @xDarnelx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@iananderson4754 there’s a mod called the cutting room floor that restores cut content, this includes Babette’s ability to turn the player into a vampire.

  • @whensomethingcriesagain
    @whensomethingcriesagain 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Worth mentioning Morvath Piquine as well, as he spent his pre-vampire life punching other vampires until they died even harder, and it's a crying shame that his Skyrim appearance didn't put a fist through your face when fighting him

  • @ains_og
    @ains_og 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    It's amazing to hear the power that can come from Molag Balls

  • @Miss_Camel
    @Miss_Camel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I never care about who the most powerful vampire is, only the most entertaining to me personally. The Real Housewives of Castle Volkihar is super underrated petty entertainment, and I’m so here for Fura Bloodmouth. Also, every single time I come home to report back on a quest and have to wake someone from their coffin, it gives me the giggles

  • @ytwyvern4240
    @ytwyvern4240 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Well, since you did Greatest Vampires, how about now do Greatest Werewolves.

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I have a list of them but I don’t know if it would be as interesting, we shall see in the future tho lol

    • @kevind3974
      @kevind3974 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dude you do eso, the old games and the books. That by itself makes it a good video. Except for imperial knowledge and the occasional cameltoe video you’re one of the only people to actually touch it.
      That by itself means you will have both more pics and it’s not exclusive to the usual Skyrim list. To you it’s dull to us it’s fresh

    • @NoLimitsHtx
      @NoLimitsHtx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@masternelothbruh do it

    • @TheSteelDragonG
      @TheSteelDragonG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Should probably include any of the "were-beasts" as they are all children of Hircine.
      But could still call it Greatest Werewolves I guess.

  • @Noobzlikeu
    @Noobzlikeu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The reason Verandis could be out and about in the sun is likely due to the fact that he's a different kind of vampire from what we're familiar with. To explain: There are 4 different strains of diseases that cause vampirism. They are as follows:
    1. Sanguinare Vampiris
    2. Porphyric Hemophilia
    3. Noxiphilic Sanguivoria
    4. Chaotica Vampiris
    Of these 4, only 3 can affect mortals. The 4th, Chaotica Vampiris, actually only affects those who are already vampires. What it does is it enhances the vampire's speed and strength. But it doesn't make them immune to sunlight. Not to mention that it was artificially created by an alchemist. So we can rule that one out. We're all very familiar with Sanguinare Vampiris, so we know it isn't that. There doesn't seem to be much info on Porphyric Hemophilia, but it seems safe to assume that it isn't that. That leaves Noxiphilic Sanguivoria. This one is interesting, because it is the only strain of vampirism in which those who contract it aren't weakened or harmed by sunlight, but rather, are immensely empowered at night instead. So while Verandis wasn't turned into a vampire by a disease, his form of vampirism seems to be in line with the Noxiphilic Sanguivoria strain.

  • @thewonderfullymadejaraid7015
    @thewonderfullymadejaraid7015 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It could be an interesting theory to speculate as to whether Rada al-Saran and Harkon Volkihar have any connections, as they both appear to be of the same bloodline. It could be possible that Harkon was a high-ranking member of the Grey Host, as Harkon was a powerful king during the First Era. Maybe Harkon became a vampire and then later joined the Grey Host as a prestigious officer of some kind, but then retreated back to his castle in the Sea of Ghosts after the Grey Host suffered its original defeat. It makes an even more compelling case when you consider that Harkon has at least some familiarity with Blackreach (or at least Dwemer ruins, in general), as the Grey Host made their fortress in Blackreach, "deep in the bowels of a Dwemer ruin".

  • @ninjakateems
    @ninjakateems 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    By Malocaths toenails, another great video.
    That was inspired by what Master Neloth says after exiting Nchardak btw.

  • @TheRealW.S.Foster
    @TheRealW.S.Foster 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I haven't watched the video yet, but I'll come back later once I do. That said, my money's on Lamae Bal being the most powerful vampire on Tamriel because she's responsible for creating one whole strain of common vampirism, and she apparently gets stronger the more people are turned into vampires by her subjects.
    Oh, and she is the first vampire after all - the first Daughter of Coldharbour in fact, who'd go on to create three whole lines of vampire clans too. She'd also go on to create a breed of vampires called Scions, who are apparently as strong as vampire lords.

  • @achichachi8825
    @achichachi8825 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Rada was the first vampire boss that actually scared me. Lmao, the rest are talented but Rada was just scary.

    • @achichachi8825
      @achichachi8825 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just wanted to circle back to my original comment for an update. Just finished the main quest line again and greymoor chapter again and my views on Rada if it isn’t the consequences to my actions Al Saran have changed drastically. Honestly screw him. I find it quite rich that he chose to become a vampire knowing full damn well his soul is Indebted to Molag Balls and now he wants to start with the bullshit. Well he chose the right focking one. Not only did we have our soul taken from us which was straight bullshit but then we had to spend upwards of five hours in cold Harbour finding the assholes who got lost. Rada is a bitch and he wouldn’t be able to last five minutes in cold Harbour. I said what I said

  • @chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266
    @chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Imagine being such a perfectionist about your swordmanship that you draw with a god and is still not contempt...

  • @Alexor117
    @Alexor117 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Todd Howard is a powerfull vampire, who suck your money, by the liar magic.

    • @siyzerix
      @siyzerix 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He uses persuasion. His speech is 100

  • @chadharger9323
    @chadharger9323 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    "Touched by Molag Bal". . .there's another word for that which TH-cam doesn't like. In on of the in game books Bal is called King of Word TH-cam Doesn't Like. And how Serana reacts when asked about it is all I need to now about Bal and his summoning day.

  • @HJHWolf
    @HJHWolf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    It's a shame that there are no vampire pirates admiral in Elder Scrolls hahaha

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      If we can sail in Elder Scrolls 6 that fantasy could become reality 😎

    • @kevind3974
      @kevind3974 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be honest I would not be surprised if the momer end up having some vampires in their ranks. Hell I’m pretty sure their kings one. Even for an elf who dos necramancy that dudes old as fuck. Hes beginning second age or something like that

  • @MLBeaton
    @MLBeaton 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Akatosh turned their back on Vyrthur…I supposed thats so literal that even the Sun wont touch him…
    Hes not wrong for feeling betrayed!

    • @marilynlucero9363
      @marilynlucero9363 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's what happens when you Simp for the Sun.
      Therapist: "So tell me... what's going on?"
      Vyrthur: "I am dispicable... feel so lost even the Sun doesn't wanna touch me."
      Jokes aside though when taking on Vyrthur was a very memorable battle for me, more to than Harkon in my opinion.

  • @solomonpnq
    @solomonpnq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The greatest vampire in The Elder Scrolls is the stupid fucking ancient vampire from Daggerfall that can kill you in 3 seconds if you look at it the wrong way.

  • @joshsmith752
    @joshsmith752 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great lecture Master Neloth!!

  • @PotooBurd
    @PotooBurd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love your work! Comenting for the algorithm 🌻

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you soldier! 🫡

  • @akuladoctor7355
    @akuladoctor7355 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Lore wise the dragonborn also has the potential to becomes a superior vampire. Dragonborn are powerful in general, and then you combine it with a 2. rate vampiric blood. Not to mention, that they might enjoy Bal's favor as all dragonborn has the innate will to dominate. An action, that Molag Bal also find pleasing.

    • @capadociaash8003
      @capadociaash8003 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Alduin: creates a theocratic dictatorship instead of destroying the world
      Molag Bal: I like ya cut g

  • @MT_800
    @MT_800 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great choice of outro music 👌

  • @kacperlesniewski9035
    @kacperlesniewski9035 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Wonderful video! Normaly I'm not big fan of vampires but this one here is 100000/10! Also I'm happy you used ESO info. I agree with placing Rada al-Saran on first, and giving Count Verandis so high spot.
    Also... if you made video about the strongest vampires in TES... now you could also make video about strongest werewolves ;)

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Another video idea added to my enormous list lol!!!!

    • @andrewcody2181
      @andrewcody2181 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@masternelothor just were creators in general

    • @kacperlesniewski9035
      @kacperlesniewski9035 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@masterneloth I was thinking... I can help you with ww video if you want. I have quite exp. with werewolf characters in ESO and know their lore quite well. I have at least 3 candidates who could show up in that list.

  • @vicieux7789
    @vicieux7789 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    keep up the great work, cant believe im so early, i refreshed my homepage and just clicked on this one lol

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was fate. A destiny laid by Azura herself!

  • @thehonoredone2361
    @thehonoredone2361 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Another truly Fangtastic video Master Neloth. My favorite vampire is definitely Babette.

  • @zepherinkevinfrancis7539
    @zepherinkevinfrancis7539 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't know about some of these characters, so thanks

  • @vael_
    @vael_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Finally someone going through whos got the meanest case of Vamp-19

  • @sixxlys
    @sixxlys 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate that you put a disclaimer before talking about Lamae Bal and how she became a vampire :)

  • @SoloC33
    @SoloC33 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lmao homie called me a peasant 😔☝️

  • @PowerfulRift
    @PowerfulRift 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is great 👍

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re great!

  • @rabidcanine
    @rabidcanine 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Rada Al-Saran for sure

  • @LostInSynapses
    @LostInSynapses 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outro still iconic 👌

  • @Tolly7249
    @Tolly7249 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Notes from a formerly obsessed ESO fan: Verandis and Rada both made sacrifices to Molag Bal a la Hakon, becoming Vampire Lords from his direct touch. Verandis regretted his deal not long after and became a pacifist, Rada did not.
    The Dark Heart is indeed connected to Namira, and was sacred to the proto-Reachmen before it was lost beneath Skyrim thanks to the actions of the Dwemer, who were attempting to find the Heart after detecting it through their tonal machinery, and a clan of Vampires who had discovered they could feed from it instead of from blood, at the cost of no longer being able to sustain themselves on anything else. At some point, one or both sides pissed Namira off and she drained the Dark Heart, sending all but one of the clan who fed upon it mad. The leader of said clan was sealed away, until the bloodshed of the Three Banners war woke the Heart enough for her to wake up, and she promptly teamed up with Rada al Saran in his plans to rescue the Grey Host from Coldharbour.
    There was a lot wrong with Greymoor and Markarth but I'll give the game credit for some genuinely terrifying villains and excellent new friends. (Fennorian!)

  • @joshuablakeney2983
    @joshuablakeney2983 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The player is the strongest vampire in skyrim.
    *wipes entire lair with iron longsword on easy, uses creation club and console commands to circumvent all debuffs
    Narrator: i dont give a crap about your character!
    Me: oops...

    • @akuladoctor7355
      @akuladoctor7355 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jokes aside lore wise a dragonborn vampire lord can be terrifying. The power of the dragons combined with vampiric immortality, and the innate desire to dominate might even earn the favor of Molag Bal. I can easily imagine an elder scrolls game with the Dragonborn being the primary antagonist ruling as a tyrant Emperor of Tamriel.

  • @jordanmagpiebullet7978
    @jordanmagpiebullet7978 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just sub keep them coming I love the elder scrolls, serious and vampire in particularly also can I ask you something if I may

  • @BigAutisticDaddy
    @BigAutisticDaddy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    cool video old Nelly, it makes me want to know if there's any werewolves, necromancers, or other sapient baddies worth mentioning.

  • @alexejalexejewitschsabljuk6985
    @alexejalexejewitschsabljuk6985 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:32 Feels like something Neloth would say.

  • @lycusmungus51
    @lycusmungus51 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    But but vampire Khajiit is the best listen if you just read my 10 page word document on his lore I think you’ll understand

  • @jcclj
    @jcclj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Now make the greatest Werecreature in Elder Scrolls

  • @UchihaZoSo
    @UchihaZoSo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Funnily enough, Lord Harkon's level cap is 60. However, random Vampire Nightmasters cap at 65 and Arch-Curate Vyrthur caps at 75 (the same level as a Legendary Dragon!). I know this probably isn't lore-accurate, but it's funny to think that there are random no-name vampires out there who are stronger than Harkon

    • @hunterwilliams2833
      @hunterwilliams2833 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It even funnier consider what Harkon sacrificedz

    • @stevenceja4706
      @stevenceja4706 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Harkon calls the Dragonborn a pet when he literally gives you power to rival his 😂

  • @Chino429
    @Chino429 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    O your wise Nelothyness, maybe you can answer a question: is there any lore reasons as to why the Tyranny of the Sun prophecy actually works? Or was it just a quest Bethesda put in without giving much thought to lore?
    I ask because during the confrontation with Vyrthur, we find out he just made it up, so it's not like it came from the gods or daedra. But as you said, it somehow got onto 3 different Elder Scrolls which is unfathomable, and if you shoot the sun, it actually comes to fruition. Yet it doesn't make much sense. Why would the Blood of a Daughter of Coldharbour do anything to the sun? The sun is Magnus (or remnants of his energy anyway), a totally separate entity from both Auriel and Molag Bal. Why would someone with Molag's "blessing" have any effect on another god? Not to mention Magnus is reputed to be very powerful.
    In addition, why would this affect Auriels influence on Mundus? I admittedly don't know much about the Elvish version, but Akatosh is the Dragon god of Time, not the sun, no? Not only that, but the whole Aedra vs Daedra vs Magna-Ge is that the Aedra, incurring Akatosh, were responsible for the creation of the world and stayed in it, having their essences infused, while the Magna-Ge left and tore the sun and stars on the way out, and the Daedra weren't involved at all. With that in mind, it seems like the blocking of the sun and severing of the connection between Nirn and Aethereus would affect everyone BUT the Aedra. Therefore I'm not understanding why this would be the best way for Vyrthur to exact vengeance.
    If Auriel is somehow associated to the sun and/or drew power from it, i can get behind the blocking and the reason the bow helps, and that Vyrthur would know about it as a very high ranking member. But I'm just not seeing that in lore. Am i missing stuff? Or did Bethesda just decide to bypass lore for a very cool questline?

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So the Elder Scrolls themselves are quite unknowable and impossible to comprehend who actually wrote them. Elder Scrolls record what was, is, and will be. How Vyrthur did this is a unsolvable mystery which I like, but fate likely had a hand.
      As for Auriel/Akatosh, he is referred to reside in Aetherius with the other Aedra. The sun created by Magnus is the largest portal or tear between Mundus and Aetherius so blocking it would sever any connection the Divines have.
      While blocking the sun would not directly impact the Aedra, it does seem clear that Akatosh/Auriel has some vested interest in Tamriel considering his actions in Oblivion.
      I don’t think Bethesda contradicted any lore in the Dawnguard quest but I think they just threw some things up in the air as a mystery. This doesn’t bother me necessarily as one of my videos I’m making has led me to believe that The Elder Scrolls universe is a very illogical place and that is for the best.

    • @akuladoctor7355
      @akuladoctor7355 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@masterneloth The "stars" are also tears between Mundus, and Aetherius so it is not a full sever. But enough to give the vampires freedom from the sun. As for why it works. I think it's more like the bow being connected to the sun through aedric magic. Since the sun arrows also affect the sun. What happens when the bloodstainted arrows are used is, that the bow's magic sends a tainted arrow to the sun. Sun is indirectly the source of all life. Vampiric blood is the polar opposite of life. Not just blood itself means, that living beign is harmed, but the blood of a vampire is the blood of an undead. So in some way the blood of coldharbour, and the sun are polar opposites to one another.

    • @Chino429
      @Chino429 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @masterneloth Ah I see. Thanks for taking the time to reply! So a bit of faulty understanding of the gods on my part then 😁 Thanks for clarifying. I can definitely get behind the logic, or illogic, of parts of it being a mystery because the Elder Scrolls franchise do be mysterious like that sometimes (Dragonbreaks anyone?) But your explanation makes sense with the severed connections to Aethereus. Even if it didn't affect Auriel directly, no connection=potentially no contact with mortals=no influence on the plane=not able to pursue whatever his ultimate goals are.

  • @SkywarpG1X
    @SkywarpG1X 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And that's why Rada Alsheran is the GOAT! The GOAT!

  • @Chosenhorse2
    @Chosenhorse2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lord Harkon gets my vote because he is the toughest vampire I ever had to kill in Skyrim which I fought him 3 times as a powerful wizard, a werewolf & as a vampire myself and he's allot tougher to beat than Miraak.
    Second strongest vampire is Harkon's daughter Serena watching her make short work on killing a dragon make me glad she's in my side and I don't to have fight her.

  • @whooll
    @whooll 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Being a sword singer to begin with alone already seems pretty OP lol but couple that with being the leader of the grey host and having been alive with the strain of vampirism for as long as Rada has been is just an insane amount of power lol but idk Babette wasn't one to be messed with either. And of course there was the count of Skingrad from Oblivion, basically a permanent medieval governor without anyone in a position of authority above him. Yeah the Count with the deranged basement wife is the real most powerful vamp, hands down lol

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m disappointed I didn’t include him. While not powerful he is great for being a vampire that rules one of the greatest cities in Cyrodiil.

  • @ORCA1739
    @ORCA1739 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love for you to show us your builds for these characters they looks fun

  • @KrystalcKobra769
    @KrystalcKobra769 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Somehow I knew it'd be Rada. From his massive heath bar, to his lineage, and long list of achievements (even owning a oblivion realm) truly he's the GOAT of vampire kind.

  • @Victor-wo4hc
    @Victor-wo4hc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Harkon is the real most ancient vampire. Durnehviir told the DB that he was cheated by the Ideal Masters to protect Valerica... in an age where dragons fly freely. That means Harkon, Valerica and Serana were vampires at least since the age of dragons, much more earlier than Lamae.

  • @damcmadlad2975
    @damcmadlad2975 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's interesting is that the bloodlines that seem to come earlier in the timeline such as Lame Bal's line and Harkon's line seem to either be merely inconvenienced by the sun or not affected by it at all while the well "newer" bloodlines seem to be far more hindered from it almost kinda makes me think that Molag Bal specifically nerfed his own disease to make sure no types of vampires like Rada could try and defy him again although that might just be me speculating

  • @fictionschmiction4478
    @fictionschmiction4478 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let's not forget that Rada al-Saran stalemated the sword goddess BEFORE he was a vampire. Absolute gigachad warrior.

  • @user-ju7vj3sb9u
    @user-ju7vj3sb9u 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video make video on greatest dragon born,king,werewolfe,dragon,empror,dragon priest,assassin or you can even take a step further and do artifacts and states

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh I plan to do most of those someday 😎

    • @user-ju7vj3sb9u
      @user-ju7vj3sb9u 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@masterneloth I can't with to see them

  • @GH0STGUY
    @GH0STGUY หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    commenting before watching the video.
    i just really like playing as a Vampire and in every single one of my Skyrim playthroughts i ended up as one, if you ask me why i will always answear with two words; poison immunity. also because i like the shiny eyes but that doesnt play as big of a role on my choice since i exclusivelly play on first person. also, in every playthrought i become a Werewolf before becoming a Vampire, since its much easier to finish Dawnguard as a Werewolf, and no, i never choose Clan Volkihar, after i finish Dawnguard (and unlock all the special items like explosive darts, dwemer crossbows and both the Rune Shield and Rune Axe even though i never use them) i just ask for Serana to turn me into a Vampire Lord. I refuse to be a common Vampite. and yes, i do use Harkon's Sword as my main weapon for the rest of the playthrought and yes i do regret not sidding with Clan Volkihar every single time because the special rings are broken as fuck.

  • @dococ3272
    @dococ3272 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah Lamae Ball, the red headed vampire stepchild of Levar ball.

  • @Th3opps
    @Th3opps 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You should do one on werewolf

  • @declanedwards985
    @declanedwards985 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I don’t see the last Dragonborn on here I’ll lose my mind

  • @morrigankasa570
    @morrigankasa570 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The greatest in Skyrim (not counting Player Character) is Serana!!!!!

  • @SilverSurrepstitious
    @SilverSurrepstitious 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We need a "who is the greatest Aylied" video! I'd love to know your opinion on the matter :D

  • @alanolex3962
    @alanolex3962 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate you not calling Harkon a dumbass for going after the prophecy, since Nirn survived *without a sun* during the dawn era anyway, and if you actually do use the Bloodcursed Arrows it clearly doesn't get rid of the sun, just corrupts it.

  • @joetheman74
    @joetheman74 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is explained in the story of the first vampire. The original strain of vampiric disease from vampires created directly by Molag Bal are not affected by sunlight

  • @gamervet4760
    @gamervet4760 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:22 Harkon could get swallowed whole. There's a vampire that can do that. Creepy...

  • @primevalyautja1305
    @primevalyautja1305 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A Khajiit Vampire OC Dragonborn who joins the stormcloaks? yeah I don't think so. Screw the stormcloaks

  • @ThaT_DudE0106
    @ThaT_DudE0106 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro forgot that in Harlan’s deal with Milan bal that Milan bal and Serena… did the devils tango…

  • @SPIKYBOI69420
    @SPIKYBOI69420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Greetings master, I honestly don't like being a vamp as I like my natural regen

    • @olorin6494
      @olorin6494 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Little bit of enchanting and you can get that regen back and way more at night. But honestly regen in skyrim is trash cause it’s like halved during combat

    • @SPIKYBOI69420
      @SPIKYBOI69420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@olorin6494 i meant stamina

    • @olorin6494
      @olorin6494 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SPIKYBOI69420 I assumed you meant all of them but true of stamina also

    • @SPIKYBOI69420
      @SPIKYBOI69420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@olorin6494 i like my stamina cause I need it to run away from dragons like a bitch

    • @olorin6494
      @olorin6494 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SPIKYBOI69420 vegetable soup is your friend my friend

  • @mal1362
    @mal1362 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The dragonborn is the greatest vampire duh

  • @CeeDoubleU
    @CeeDoubleU 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Redguards have the coolest lore but Skyrim gameplay doesn't do them justice.

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Skyrim does Redguards dirty but also expands their lore,
      Skyrim makes Redguards have more unique names rather than the same as Bretons and also gives them conflict with the Thalmor.

  • @JCrushFitness
    @JCrushFitness 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m pretty sure the dark heart had something to do with the Void and Sithis… maybe… it wasn’t very clear WHAT it was exactly.

  • @CokeinaPepsican
    @CokeinaPepsican 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 week gang!

  • @kevind3974
    @kevind3974 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I like about ravenwatch and really most of his coven is that they don’t drink blood. They do but compared to the other vampires especially on this list what they drink is nothing. Quite literally starving themselves yet can still probably beat the rest of the vampires on this list when prepared

  • @patricialavery8270
    @patricialavery8270 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    never heard of the guy and I have read alot of the books.

  • @jareddebeast
    @jareddebeast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I remember right all vampire clans have unique abilities like Lamae beolfags clan not being affected by the sun and just being stronger at night but the volkihar clans abilities are 1: being able to phase through solid ice and 2: being the physically strongest vampires but that just it it’s physically strongest not strongest overall

  • @alphawolf_Uchiha1
    @alphawolf_Uchiha1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you should do the greatest werewolves, excluding CC (custom characters)

  • @GrimDarkHalfOff
    @GrimDarkHalfOff 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like Movarth

  • @siyzerix
    @siyzerix 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will you also make a list of the biggest simps in skyrim?
    I have a feeling serana will rank right alongside aerin.

  • @keyon152
    @keyon152 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greatest necromancers next?

  • @treybrzezowski3259
    @treybrzezowski3259 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let's be real, Harkon's an idiot. Ignoring Valerica's reasonable points of Vapmpires having every Mortal on Tamriel banding together to wipe them out, there's the logical argument that the Prophecy in question would eventually kill all the Vampires.
    Even if it isn't the same physical body as our Real Sun, The Sun of the Elder Scrolls serves the same purposes as ours; bringing light and heat to Nirn. If Harkon had blotted out the Sun, Nirn would become cold very quickly. With the lack of light and warmth of the Sun, all plants would die, following the plants would be the animals, then the mortals who feed on plants and animals, and eventually the Vampires would be left with nothing to feed on. If starvation can't kill a Vampire then that's even worse, they'd go feral from the hunger-induced madness.

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But who would win, Rada al-Saran with his Shehai, or Pelinal Whitestrake at full rage?

  • @Horus9123
    @Horus9123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, maybe greatest emperors, of course not only from Septim dynasty, but including Alesian, Reman and interregnum ones.

  • @eimantasbalciunas7973
    @eimantasbalciunas7973 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Harkon is the strongest for resist the Lance of Molag bal

  • @misterhyde2817
    @misterhyde2817 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Werewolves next please

  • @Kira-is9vu
    @Kira-is9vu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Serana and Valerica were also raped by Molag Bal and probably togtehr evne stronger then Harkon. There were also a former Dark Brotherhood vampire family member which nearly destroyed the Dark Brotherhood and found his owen group of vampires. This group had the only goal to clean the Dark Brotherhood from evry non vampire Family member.

  • @SebasTian58323
    @SebasTian58323 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dovahkin probably, even if you're not talking them into account, but otherwise i don't know

  • @gamervet4760
    @gamervet4760 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am all about the werewolves. I tried being a vampire, and it's quite underwhelming until you get the VL form. Even then, there aren't many benefits to it. The only downside is restless sleep, and that doesn't bother me so much. As long as my skills are at a decent level before I start going all fangy and furry. 😉

    • @achichachi8825
      @achichachi8825 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How funny, I had those exact feelings when I joined the companions and was forced into being a werewolf. I personally preferred the vampire abilities, but most people tend to prefer the werewolf abilities. Different strokes for different dragon folks, truly.

    • @gamervet4760
      @gamervet4760 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @achichachi8825 I have a level 80 vampire that I got my platinum with. I played it just like they want me too and I don't really care for any of the upgrades. Vl is fun for about 10 minutes when you realize your regular form is more effective because you can sneak. Also, the sunlight bullshit. Put on some regen enchants, and it cancels that shit out. There's a lot of unnecessary crap that goes into a vampire, and they aren't that well implemented into the game. They feel shallow when in comparison to Morrowind.

    • @gamervet4760
      @gamervet4760 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @achichachi8825 The raw melee power of the wolf speaks for itself. Also, you can travel across the map within a few minutes as a wolf. I like it more than fast travel. Also, RPing a cursed werewolf is the tits man. Getting into the schedule of the moons and brushing up on my lore so I don't muck it up.

    • @achichachi8825
      @achichachi8825 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gamervet4760 brb starting a new Skyrim game to implement your methods. Thank you Grand Wizard.

  • @moliag4382
    @moliag4382 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Vampire Neloth isnt real he cant hurt you.
    Vampire Neloth:

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🧛🏽‍♂️

  • @ethangarland4228
    @ethangarland4228 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My vampire temptress charcher lilith there you saved some time

  • @nathansteinfromarkham7109
    @nathansteinfromarkham7109 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kain would be disgusted.

  • @jesusarmandocontreras2742
    @jesusarmandocontreras2742 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Daddy Harkon will always be number one in my heart 🖤 😝😂

  • @Scowleasy
    @Scowleasy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lmao balls is probably the strongest by virtue of being the first

  • @TheLastRaven
    @TheLastRaven 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would dagoth ur and his ashvampires count?

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ash Vampires are not technically vampires from what I read, they are in a separate class altogether.

  • @Nix1onit3
    @Nix1onit3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is strange that in Elder scrolls 📜 that people have not been born as a vampire or higher vampire😅

  • @sircrimsonwolf7492
    @sircrimsonwolf7492 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a myth, saying that the dark heart is the rejected aspect or essence of Lorkhan. He wast aedra or daedra BUT something debatably the opposite considering Lorkhan/Shor is the son of Sithis the Void. The is a theory that if both hearts are reunited. Lorkhan will return aedra and daedra will end and the progeny of chaos will endure.
    This fan made prophecy was supposedly created when someone discovered lore that takes place thousands of years past the known timeline after a apocalyptic event that destroyed Nirn.

  • @peppernoni9608
    @peppernoni9608 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Molag Ballin

  • @MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING
    @MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think its more fair without dragonborn because the dragonborn is well the dragonborn and he can destroy anyone plus he is your character so good choice in not including the dragonborn Molag ball 😂 i though it was molag bowel😂

    • @masterneloth
      @masterneloth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      FINALLY! Someone gets it lol! If I included the Dragonborn he’d be #1 on all my videos and that would be super boring for me.

  • @rilius7138
    @rilius7138 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing that bothers me in eso is the lavk of reactivity on from the game. I was a vampire when I did Rivenspire so its a bit comical when the characters talk like my toon has no clue how vampirism works.

  • @evilemperor5325
    @evilemperor5325 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You forgot the Dragonborn.