2000m Row Erg Test Vlog | British Rowing Lightweight Trials
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as a lightweight myself, love to see some content on the lighweights
Lightweight baabbyyyy!
yeahhh buddyyyyyy
Impressive splits!! Makes me feel like being sick just watching (and, yes, today much prefer watching these brave lads doing a 2K than trying it myself)!
Do you honestly expect me to watch this during the World Cup finale?
Of course I did :)
The 2 km row is one of the most brutal endeavors in sport. It’s a 6-8 minute sprint the vast majority of which is extremely painful. Respect.
Hopefully less than 6!
@@CameronBuchanAs a J16, under 6 looks like an impossible dream 💀
The 2K! The most exquisite suffering I’ve ever experienced. Love rowing them, love watching them. But that feeling when you finish, assuming you emptied the tank, is somewhere, I imagine, at the bottom levels of Dante’s Inferno.
Rowed a 10K session today as 5 2Ks, kept the heart rate low. But now I’m thinking about that single piece. 😂
As a lightweight, this is fantastic. I wonder what they - and your - views are of the future of lightweight rowing, given its going to be eventually dropped from the Olympics?
Hi! What is the reason lightweight rowing will be dropped from the Olympics?
@@arpadnagy1354 Pressure from the IOC on FISA to have an equal number of male and female rowing events at the Olympics. Add to that a more general pressure from them for a streamlined schedule. Wouldn't be surprised if coastal rowing is introduced and there's a concomitant cutback in the number of openweight events, too. FISA doesn't have to drop lightweight events from the world champs, of course, but you can imagine that the elimination of boat categories from the Olympics will lead to national bodies cutting funding for them, too.
Awesome to see lightweight crew, not enough focus on that for much rowing content :D gives you a good sense of the power difference, easily 30s on a 2k, makes me feel better as an upper lightweight :D great performance by these guys
Found your channel because I've been wanting to start rowing and so have never used an erg or done anything before, but honestly it always looks amazing seeing people do 2ks and makes me wish that I could join in to see what time I would set lol 😆
Definitely give it a try!
Obvs won't ask where you live...but just incase....Chesterton RC. Cambridge. :)
Find a local rowing club - not a gym, as most people in gyms don't know the right technique to use on an erg without hurting themselves - and give it a go! Rowers are very welcoming.
Love seeing real athletes withing on the ground after a 2K the same way I do!
As a former lightweight it was good to see. Would be interested to see how they prep before and after weigh-in too.
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The love hate relationship with the erg never stops....
Before a 2k I don’t want to do it. After I am glad I have done it.
Great work from those guys. A bit heartbreaking really, to see them give everything they have. Well done.
I love watch erg tests. It makes me ready to run through a brick wall!
Right!?
Incredibly impressive. Thanks Cam.
Interesting to see the use of weightlifting shoes for erg tests, something I realised we ought to do but only right at the end of my career, when it was too late.
After using a lot of different shoes I think there are better options than weight shoes so I wouldn't worry if you didn't use them!
@@CameronBuchan I think my last tests I actually used Aussie closing ceremony shoes from Athens, like a waffle non cushioning sole. Do you have a video on shoe experiments?
@@specialist211 think the non cushion sole is the biggest difference! Even then though, I'm not so sure.
I made a video before looking st 3 or 4 pairs a while ago. I did recommend weights shoes or flat deadlift shoes. I've been leaning towards the deadlift shoes or equivalent now
Awesome video Cam! The camera angles, the different music to set different tones or moods. You really hit the emotional side of these guys pouring their hearts out into this test - which I assume is to keep their Olympic dreams alive. Your documentary style videos have come along ways over the years. This one was one of your best. Quick question for you - I'm a lot lighter today (149 lbs / 67kg) than when I did my last erg test with you (160 lbs / 72kg)...Being so underweight, is there any chance of me improving my 2k on the erg without that extra weight? I have heard weight is critical for momentum on the erg.
Thanks Scott! When I was editing it I could definitely feel the difference vs the old ones!
Weight wise. It's a little bit of a yes and no. If you're stronger at the lighter weight then could be faster but if you're weaker then probably slower. Purely being heavier isn't always faster
@@CameronBuchan thanks for the reply. That makes sense to me - everyone is different. My food fuel at the heavier weight was a lot of extra junk in my diet. I may be stronger with less junk fuel!
@@cusernament exactly! Fingers crossed!
Yeah DJ Dan Jones
Hyped for this
definitely rather do it! I never liked watching other do their tests before I did mine, it's not fun to watch people in so much pain, kinda kills my mojo, for me 2k tests are all about hold back in the first 500m for me.
Erg is bae.
Interesting to see the different techniques and styles towards the end of the pieces, do you shorten up and go for a faster rate or try to increase your stroke length? Both things are not readily translatable to on the water boat technique.
Depending on the technique itself both can make the boat go fast in a sprint towards the finish
In my opinion, when you do 2k time trials, you look much more relaxed and "sound" technique wise 👍 Anyways, much respect for those guys effort.
Good Luck
04:56 is this Thomas Müller?
its strange how high the guy on the right (and in the middle) finishes, seems to work pretty well though
I wouldn't say it's super strange as I see a lot of people do it.
Wouldn't recommend it though! The erg rewards length, this is them getting longer strokes. For some people this can be at the cost of efficiency and cam even contribute to injury
Heavyweights would have a higher absolute power output, so on the C2 should clock the quicker splits. However,
lightweights, rather obviously, weigh less, so may actually have a better power to weight ratio. In your experience have you seen the lightweights appearing quicker on the water than anticipated as they have less mass to move?
Quite often actually!
didnt realise otis was on the gb squad lol
Hey there @cameronbuchnan. Great thing to see lightweights at such high levels of the sport. I often wonder how tall those lighter guys are? I'm 1.93m and a lightweight myself (73-75kg) due to my past as a distance runner (10k to marathon) where I had to be as skinny as possible while staying healthy (tough thing to maintain). I picked up rowing because of biomechanics in my 40s becoming worse and worse and stopped running pretty much altogether. I have a feeling my body would've been better suited for rowing all along but better late than never. Tl,dr: Should I gain some weight at my height to become a stronger rower, since I have the feeling I miss "substance" to pull properly at my height or is there no say sweet spot for differnt heigh/weight combinations? Appreciate your opinion, cheers.
Hi there! It all depends on you and how you deal with the weight. If its hard to stay at weight then yes of course more will make you stronger and less likely to get injured. It also depends what you are trying to do. There aren't that many competitions for lightweights outside of the elite level. So not too many reasons to force yourself to be at weight. The guys can vary in height but usually less than 185. Of course are exceptions the the rule. True lightweights are also between 70 and 72.5kg
@@CameronBuchan thank you very much for getting back to me.
196 hr....says it all - I'd be in a coffin anywhere above 180...impressive athletes
Everyone has different max heart rates but yes definitely impressive!
Hopefully you’d only be in coffin at 0 heart rate
Awe 5k that's my distance - I'll find out how truly slow I am 🤣 Looking forward to it 👍
Definitely not my strong suit! Fingers crossed!
Why does the guy in the GBR uni pull in so high???
So he can get a longer stroke. Not ideal technique but works for him
@@CameronBuchan Respectable as a decently short guy. I'm much slower than him so really I should be taking notes lol
Have you done any videos on how to get a good start in time trials?
On the water or the erg?
I haven't done one for either, on the erg the start doesn't really matter. It's you vs machine. Stick to the plan and your splits.
Water, similar but little more technique involved and higher risk of having a "bad" start.
@@CameronBuchan I thought I’d seen some clips on Instagram (might have been the concept 2 page) where it was quarter, half, full pulls for a fast start ( maybe I imagined it though)
@@Gregor147 so you're talking on the erg.
Yes I think I saw that recently. It doesn't matter on the erg how you start. Just get to your speed and stick to the plan. The quarter, half, full etc helps on the water much more than on the erg. If you watch any of my videos where I start an erg piece you'll see I take a couple powerful strokes to get to my speed and then go from there. It doesn't have to be more complicated than that on the erg.
Exciting
I felt the pain on that one, and that was just from watching it. Cam do you know how a video can be made to submit for the WIRCH. To qualify one needs to be made but no guidance on how to. The file size I gather would be too huge to send. Any ideas?
Got the heart pumping!
I'm pretty sure the guidelines are on their website for the actual filming. Uploading to the likes of Google drive or similar and sending a link would probably be easiest
Love your channel. How do you feel about taking preworkout before a erg piece (specifically a 2k). Also any recommendations on how to create a multiple week erg training program. Thanks and keep up the great content
Up to you on the preworkout front. I don't know anytime who takes any for rowing. Sometimes caffeine though.
Program wise, I actually write them for people looking to improve. Best tip I can give is create sustainable fatigue within the program of you're making it yourself!
When pushing back they bring their handles really far up their body to what almost seems into the neck. What's the correct way of doing it? Because I've always brought it into my chest and assumed that's the best way of doing it.
The erg rewards length so people tend to try and get length any way they can.
Unfortunately this technique doesn't transfer to the water and also, sometimes, can lead to injury and an inefficient stroke.
@@CameronBuchan haha, my coach doesnt let us bring it further than about half way up our chest. If it doesnt translate to water he says he doesnt care for it
Upload more content about lightweights
I'm not a lightweight so maybe a lightweight can do that
What's the difference between pulling to the upper chest rather than mid chest?
The stroke is longer at the risk of injury or even some inefficiency. The rowing machine rewards length.
@@CameronBuchan Thanks Cam. One more question. Could using this technique subconsciously alter your rowing on the water by causing you to change rowing style without realising?
@@martinfoster9848 in theory it could but the guys in this video don't row at all like they do on the water like you see in this video. It is possible to have two different techniques.
@@CameronBuchan Thanks again.
Why do they lean so much with the back, like that way they get a better split?
Answered in pinned comment
what's the drag factor for lightweight 2ks vs heavy, in official GB tests?
Slightly lower at 135 for lightweight trials
@@CameronBuchan Which drag factor for the heavy weights? Which drag factor would you choose, if you tried to get the fastest time Cam? How much faster would you be?
@@laziorom18 heavyweights supposed to use 138.
Drag factor doesn't matter that much. I'd say I'd go same score regardless
Jamie Copus is watching this video….
Lightweight? How tall are they? Those are some great splits.
Lightweight yeah, like I said at the start. Around 6 foot! Super fast!
I'd love to do a 2,000m erg, but as a fat, old coxswain, I don't think anyone has that much time to waste watching me.
😂😂 this made me chuckle.
silly question...that I probably should know...but how come you can have an extra 5kg during winter ? coz extra fat keeps you warm ? please advise thanks.
I guess that could be a reason but winter training is usually commited to strength and conditioning ( weights). When using weights you tend you eat more as you require more protein and calories for progressive overload. The aim is to put on more muscle and increase strength. Then you have to lose it again for summer as that's when racing season is.
Usually winter training is full of harder and longer miles, extra calories to deal with those miles equals higher weight. One way to keep up consistency of training!
With lightweights in particular, usually being at weight is really stressful on the body itself so want to limit the amount of time in that stress.
@@josephanderson4202 thanks I appreciate the reply !
@@CameronBuchan thanks I appreciate the reply !
What stroke rate is the ideal for a 2km?
Depending on anatomy and endurance most competitive rowers tend to be around 32-36. For beginners it is usually more appropriate to keep a slightly lower rate
This ridiculous pull to your neck style has to go. Yes, you can eek out a faster split but it has nothing to do with what you will do on the water. You can safely take off 5 or 6 seconds from erg score to actual rowing just on this 'cheat/hack'.
When scores that are all that is looked at its easy to see why this technique prevails. Like you said, it is faster.
They both don't do the same technique on the water.
Nooowwww😂😂😂
Have to do a 5k for the Concept 2 challenge.
Enjoy!