Zerg versus Zerg // Standard Macro Guide

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
  • A couple of things i didn't get to mention:
    -the third drone for the first gas will be rallyed into the gas from the first inject so a drone that i make at 37~ supply
    -you take the 4th-6th gas once your 3 mineral lines are fully saturated
    if you are uncertain about the buildorder the Replays are uploaded to Mediafire here: www.mediafire....
    -if you play vs a player that pressures you with Lings/ Lings+Banes make sure to always put aside 1-2 Lings somewhere on your opponents side of the map, so that you can scout with them as soon as you have time to do so
    -if you play vs a quick third without a Banenest and an early Roachwarren also make the Rochwarren earlier
    -vs an early RoachLing all in off 1 gas you can hold with LingBane only
    -the amount of drones for Roach all ins are:
    27Drone 1 gas
    32Drone 2 gas
    41Drone 3 gas
    52Drone 4 gas
    58Drone 5 gas
    in order to defend those u can pretty much go to the dronecount the next all in would have (vs the 58 Drone one 66 drones and cancle additional upgrades and 4th)
    If you have any additional questions please let me know when im streaming on my twitch: / lamboking
    Shoutout to all the subs that made this happen!

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  • @lukebomber
    @lukebomber 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    lotv.spawningtool.com/build/92551/ got a build order off of a replay for those who like me don't have a zip decoder (also included a few personal notes which will naturally include grammer mistakes)

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hey, thanks for writing all that stuff down i appreciate it :)

    • @lukebomber
      @lukebomber 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LamboSC2 thanks mentioning stuff to write down (tho thinks like the 15 hatch I didn't note because I already know throwing in the notes was a last minute decision)

    • @christamez4147
      @christamez4147 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for this. I was confused by "3rd at 30 supply", but it seemed he was sending at 28 and wasn't sure

    • @ThunderflySc2
      @ThunderflySc2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christamez4147 you send it before so it gets at 30 :3

  • @oreosc
    @oreosc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    i have never been happier to see a 50 minute video in my entire life

  • @sketzch
    @sketzch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow. So much great info here. Thanks for taking the time to walk through these replays and share what you understand about ZvZ (and thanks to your subs!). This has been super helpful and something I'll be re watching again and again.

  • @Digitalz1
    @Digitalz1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    more great content, much appreciated! really excited to see a future one on zvp to complete the triology!

  • @romansizintsev470
    @romansizintsev470 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, Lambo! All that's left to do is to make this build crisp for myself

  • @happyakajojo
    @happyakajojo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so muchhhh !!! great guide

  • @alexfullar5289
    @alexfullar5289 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, Master at work as a teacher, great idea, great step by step "what is important" material, Thank you.

  • @thomasblack6734
    @thomasblack6734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:43 and 13:35 are the best micro tips he could've possibly provided.

    • @knighthawk2062
      @knighthawk2062 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You sir, are an absolute dick for this.....lol I KEPT going a lil forward, a little backwards, "Whats the fucking tip?!" then I click your 2nd time stamp and the unsettling realization sets in, I've been GOT. lol
      GGs you bastard...lol

  • @christiananuta7704
    @christiananuta7704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I followed every steps (including the video showing all the cheeses) but I still die to hatch first where the enemy does only lings after his two queens are ready. With your baneling nest timing (around 30 supply) , I don't have the time to do any bane since the building isn't completed. And by steps I mean I watch if he's doing a queen at his B2 and then it's a gamble from then to the baneling nest + baneling formation. After that, I can manage.

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You dont require banelings to defend those kind of attacks. You can defend lingfloods quite easily on most maps with walls + cancleing your third base, you can also make reactive spines and start extra queens and put your first 2 queens on the ramp. As long as you scout on the other side of the map with 2 lings and react right away you should be completely fine.

    • @christiananuta7704
      @christiananuta7704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LamboSC2 Thank you. You're right, I should scout with 2 lings, think about canceling my third and make use of a wall.

  • @willaesoph2567
    @willaesoph2567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So you're saying on maps where it's easy to wall if I see your pool in the exposed location I can know right away you're planning to go muta :O

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I really hope i will not play against you in wcs now :X

  • @iamskelebro8927
    @iamskelebro8927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, thanks Lambo!

  • @TheFr3styler
    @TheFr3styler 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much, Lambo, for this excellent video!

  • @GoodGirlNG
    @GoodGirlNG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, Lambo!

  • @danielglennsoria3423
    @danielglennsoria3423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did you just do 2 lines of coke? HAHAHAH! XD

  • @RastaKrakken
    @RastaKrakken 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a huge fan from Brazil 🇧🇷❤️❤️

  • @shame1290
    @shame1290 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:18 lurkers attacking from underground... HOW TO UNSEE?

  • @GoogleAccount-fx5rs
    @GoogleAccount-fx5rs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    13:35 did you just do a big line of coke haha

    • @danielglennsoria3423
      @danielglennsoria3423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, he did. Super obvious LMAO! HAHAHHA
      No wonder he's speaking so fast. lol

  • @lukebomber
    @lukebomber 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you subscribers

  • @macros3001
    @macros3001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    LamboOneManArmy saving us again!

  • @PeteAYOR
    @PeteAYOR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think it's not worth making a pair of zerglings right after your pool is done to sent to the enemy's main for scouting? I've been doing it quite consistently and from my experience once every few games I get a significant piece of information from this scout, like super fast lair, fast evo chamber, seeing an enemy going gasless, or enemy pooling zerglings to go for a speedling flood. Is this potential scout not worth sacrificing a drone essentially or are your pro opponents simply denying this scout?

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah, so if a good player goes for any sort of 2 base lair or 2 base 3 queen opening u will never be able to get into the base, and you really dont need to scout any of the all ins in order to hold them. Lingfloods etc. are not good and u dont need special preperation if you can tell that its a normal hatch timing. In general 2 queens can kill the 2 lings before they can get in no matter what they do and they will see the 2 lings coming with the overlord, so on average you will get nothing out of making those 2 lings other than having a drone less and forcing them to make 2 lings themselfes if they go for a normal third base timing.

    • @PeteAYOR
      @PeteAYOR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LamboSC2 I see, thanks for the reply.

  • @knighthawk2062
    @knighthawk2062 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:30 But why immediately put a drone back on? Usually you wait till 3:15 to build and rally 2 Drones to it so they spawn and fill the Gas by 3:30. What's the optimization here? (Like why not just pull 1 Drone off, whats 15 seconds? lol)

  • @christopherchapman6029
    @christopherchapman6029 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a sick video. I noticed you don't spread creep between the bases. Is this so you never have to skip an inject?

  • @HearterSG
    @HearterSG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Lambo. There's a ton of content here. Easily enough for a series. Too dense for one video. Is this still up to date by the way? Excellent guide.

    • @someguy7474
      @someguy7474 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      its basically the same zerg hasnt had any game changing buffs or nerfs since then except maybe mutas are just played way more often but aside from that theres no difference

  • @mrherrada797
    @mrherrada797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    why don't you put your spawning pool against the back of your mineral line to create a little nook for queens to hold position in in-case of zergling run-bys?

  • @blanka7662
    @blanka7662 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play this match up well,but i dont know what is the time I make a roach warren

  • @nilscercariolo3246
    @nilscercariolo3246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would be insane if u end the series with a ZvP standard guide :D

  • @jaydengreensill9467
    @jaydengreensill9467 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easy 123 Wcs here we come!

  • @kolaolaha1466
    @kolaolaha1466 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you give any tips on how to scout your opponent if you play roach/hydra against mass muta, mass muta/roach?

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      against muta your main scouting tool is zergling runbys

    • @kolaolaha1466
      @kolaolaha1466 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LamboSC2 But what if they have a closed wall?

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You asked about scouting the followup to the mutas right? This will be on 4 bases or at least on 3 so you dont need to go past a potential wall u can just scout with lings and see what units he is producing from his third base.

  • @shame1290
    @shame1290 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i beg of you, please make moreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • @mickeyromeo
    @mickeyromeo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my games look nothing like this

  • @mimszanadunstedt441
    @mimszanadunstedt441 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    volume is too low for no headset

  • @trewq398
    @trewq398 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    kleiner drei!

  • @sparkleknight3679
    @sparkleknight3679 ปีที่แล้ว

    sadge all in meta :/

  • @AbtinX
    @AbtinX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video but awful for you man, everyone can prepare against you

    • @rendorwilliams9116
      @rendorwilliams9116 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya, but he's not going to tell you EVERYTHING .........