Call Bauman whatever you want. Still he is one of the most, if not the most, interesting and challenging thinkers since the end of the 1980`s and onwards with his analytical, precise and sharp studies of the modern and postmodern society. You can always try to diminish his works with all sorts of derogative comments but books like Modernity and The Holocaust, The Individualized Society, Liquid Times: Living in an Age of Uncertainty, Collateral Damage: Social Inequalities in a Global Age are here to stay longer than his political opponents.
@@drendelous I would strongly suggest the following: .Liquid modernity .wasted lives .postmodernism and its discontent .state of crisis .consuming life .morals of postmodernity .liquid fear .liquid surveillance .liquid life I read all of these books and more.. And as a guy majoring in philosophy and sociology, believe me this is one of the best writers I've ever came across in my life.. I wish to read all of his books as soon as possible
@@ferdinandvonwrangell1951 You may want to read academic paper about Bauman by dr Piotr Gontarczyk (Institute of Polish Remembrance): 'Comrade Semjon' (original: 'Towarzysz Semjon' ) about the crimes against humanity he had committed in soviet Poland, before he became an 'academic'. Online translator might come handy.
“Occupying the bottom end of the inequality ladder, and becoming a 'collateral victim' of a human action or a natural disaster, interact the way the opposite poles of magnets do: they tend to gravitate towards each other.” ― Zygmunt Bauman, Collateral Damage: Social Inequalities in a Global Age
First of all, he did not hunt down or kill anyone from what I've read. And even if he did, no one is glorifying him as a person, but his work on modernism and liquidity. Which is an unrelated matter. Like Heidegger and Nazism. He was a deplorable person, but a remarkable philosopher. But you need to think instead of feel disgust, which is apparently all you can do at this time.
just so you guys know, this guy is not a communist. he just talking about the nature of power in contemporary society, he doesnt even give his own opinion in this video?!
A Jan 2024 essay in First Things by Carl Truman back in January. titled The Desecration of Man., Bowman is brought in for his identity of modernity with liquidity. We live in a world he writes that is in constant flux. Both Marx and Nietzsche described the Earth as "unhitched from the sun, turning all old certainties into chaos." The Truman essay is a well written clarification of what Mr. Batman says in the TH-cam lecture.
Most of the negative comments on here are bs Polish Nationalist Propaganda. I've personally studied Bauman's life, and I live in Poland and know the history well, and the case is that this man's life is a complicated story, and not one that can be boiled down to a couple of bad words. Polish Nationalists have an incredibly narrow view of their own history, and cannot understand the subtleties of diversity.
Can someone explain me in normal words what liquid modernity means? And what does this mean if you apply it to surveillance? ( so liquid surveillance). Thanks!!
i think it has to do with the fact that relationships and friendships are somehow liquid, disposable, they can be ended suddenly as if they were not a big deal, like by blocking someone on fb or whatsapp for instance.
Liquid modernity refers to the post-industrial society in which, similar to Durkheim's concept of anomie, that normative and dogmatic bonds that used to encapsulate life, are liquified or difffused. This diffusion leads to an escape from the collective citizen position to the individual consumer position, in which people are more prone to isolation, anxities, fears, alienation - as well as the collective securities about individual life are replaced by an overemphasis of consequence on the individual.
@@Wolcik3000 No, I mean to refer society as it is colonized by the imperatives of capitalist systems, per Habermas' communicative action. The system isn't close to collapsing per se - but it is prone to an upscaling in conflict and uncertainty, by which the material conditions for societal change like revolution is met - however the capitalist system has succesfully rid of us participation in ethical fellowships, so any solidarity and equality won't be the rallying call of the next societal change unless we go trough great effort
Why do people either worship or hate Bauman? He was an active player in the history of world events, whether you agree with whatever flag he was waving, this gave him more perspective than any of you. At the same time, don't worship an ex-stalinist polish secret police officer who never fully revealed his past and very likely destroyed many families. He was a man who experienced much and had an interesting perspective of society to share. That should be enough.
I am afraid that the condemnation is because his stalinistic/communistic ideology only influanced his post modern state - he just used fancy words as tool for the next version of totalitarinism in the age when common man unless dumbified will be aware where the previous attempt lead
These thoughts were first voiced by some random Eastern European as the dust cloud of the rumored advance of the Huns appeared on the horizon.... and probably long before that.
An analysis akin to Nancy Fraser's multiple scales of justice, and the times of 'abnormal' justice in which the Keynesian-Westphalian nation-state is losing traction as the arbiter and primary grammar of justice.
Please, do enlighten me on what research did YOU do on this person? Do you read/write polish, the language which all his police/army files are written in? Real life is not Wiki. Do you know what KBW was doing in Poland? Do you know what NKVD was responsible for? Your little argument would mean that the SS officer in a concentration camp that was writing down the names of the people to be killed on a specific day was innocent of any wrongdoing just because he was sitting at desk. Please, grow up.
THIS MAN SHOULD BE IN JAIL, HE WAS ONE OF THE BUTCHERS OF POLISH PEOPLE WHILE COMUNISM AND NOW THAT CRIMINAL IS BEING LISTENED AS A WISE MAN...WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT????? LOCK HIM UP!!
"We all know what that means" is on that level of argumentation that should be disregarded immediately as well as the person who makes such arguments. I personally don't care what Bauman did in the communist Poland, because it says nothing about his work. And his work is what I care about. And what this video is about.
Am I demented because I don't let my emotions overwhelm me the way you do or because I am capable of seeing shades of gray where you are apparently not?
I am not "pissing on the graves of all the victims", at least not as much as you are on grammar and good manners Secondly, if I am "pissing" on anything it's ad hominem attacks. Bauman's sociology would still be brilliant even if he were the most horrible person in the world.
You're demented because, in your eyes, a killer of people that fought the nazis and the soviets(people that your 'hero' called terrorists in 2007!) is innocent of any wrongdoing just because he put some thoughts on paper. And bravo to you, sir, for pulling out one word from a hundred, concentrating on it and ignoring my whole post. An old tactic when not having anything intelligent to say but it just doesn't work here. Let it go and go see a specialist. Good day!
I don't want to let it go. I think it's disgusting the way you are judging him; the same way the communists you loathe so much in your self-righteous zeal judged their opponents. You may have different ideals, but it's the same sword you're using.
Call Bauman whatever you want.
Still he is one of the most, if not the most, interesting and challenging thinkers since the end of the 1980`s and onwards with his analytical, precise and sharp studies of the modern and postmodern society.
You can always try to diminish his works with all sorts of derogative comments but books like Modernity and The Holocaust, The Individualized Society, Liquid Times: Living in an Age of Uncertainty, Collateral Damage: Social Inequalities in a Global Age are here to stay longer than his political opponents.
I just learned about him this year and read him 5 books and I can say it's "one of the most incredible works I've ever read in my life"
im currently reading Freedom. what whould you suggest next one?
@@drendelous
I would strongly suggest the following:
.Liquid modernity
.wasted lives
.postmodernism and its discontent
.state of crisis
.consuming life
.morals of postmodernity
.liquid fear
.liquid surveillance
.liquid life
I read all of these books and more..
And as a guy majoring in philosophy and sociology, believe me this is one of the best writers I've ever came across in my life..
I wish to read all of his books as soon as possible
@@ferdinandvonwrangell1951 You may want to read academic paper about Bauman by dr Piotr Gontarczyk (Institute of Polish Remembrance): 'Comrade Semjon' (original: 'Towarzysz Semjon' ) about the crimes against humanity he had committed in soviet Poland, before he became an 'academic'.
Online translator might come handy.
Sometimes i wish i had a lecture from him. This video from 2011 and still ignites some parts your brain about world, order, people etc.
I saw Bauman in The Swedish Theory of Love. His reflections on modern society and its weaknesses are incredibly accurate.
yes!! i was amazed too.
Same! I had to google polish sociologist to find his wiki
@@midianwolf1502 where can i read about his history?
Amazing documentary
Wikipedia. British student shown that all his books are plagiarism.
when the subtitle says "creek suns" its actually quick sand.
what's mean ''creek suns''
Thank you.
Thankyou!!!
And when the subtitles says "Manuel Constance" at 5:56 its actually Manuel Castells.
“Occupying the bottom end of the inequality ladder, and becoming a 'collateral victim' of a human action or a natural disaster, interact the way the opposite poles of magnets do: they tend to gravitate towards each other.”
― Zygmunt Bauman, Collateral Damage: Social Inequalities in a Global Age
What a bummer man!
Appreciate the video
First of all, he did not hunt down or kill anyone from what I've read. And even if he did, no one is glorifying him as a person, but his work on modernism and liquidity. Which is an unrelated matter. Like Heidegger and Nazism. He was a deplorable person, but a remarkable philosopher. But you need to think instead of feel disgust, which is apparently all you can do at this time.
just so you guys know, this guy is not a communist. he just talking about the nature of power in contemporary society, he doesnt even give his own opinion in this video?!
A Jan
2024 essay in First Things by Carl Truman back in January. titled The Desecration of Man., Bowman is brought in for his identity of modernity with liquidity. We live in a world he writes that is in constant flux. Both Marx and Nietzsche described the Earth as "unhitched from the sun, turning all old certainties into chaos." The Truman essay is a well written clarification of what Mr. Batman says in the TH-cam lecture.
Amazing.
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soooo stuped you are... who cares about someones past when it comes to achievements in someones field...
@@adamhavas6574 Normal people probably, not you tho. You are fucked up in the head with no honor.
I love this man
Most of the negative comments on here are bs Polish Nationalist Propaganda. I've personally studied Bauman's life, and I live in Poland and know the history well, and the case is that this man's life is a complicated story, and not one that can be boiled down to a couple of bad words. Polish Nationalists have an incredibly narrow view of their own history, and cannot understand the subtleties of diversity.
Dziwi mnie że jeśli ktoś napiszę prawdę nazywa się go faszystą :) Bauman to stalinowski morderca
Leszek Żebrowski
could yoy elaborate on that more please?
Power&Politics
Wonderful
strangely relates to the current pandemic
Can someone explain me in normal words what liquid modernity means? And what does this mean if you apply it to surveillance? ( so liquid surveillance). Thanks!!
i think it has to do with the fact that relationships and friendships are somehow liquid, disposable, they can be ended suddenly as if they were not a big deal, like by blocking someone on fb or whatsapp for instance.
@@nefelibatabelfast2776 it means that your friends and childen can rat on you to the police
Liquid modernity refers to the post-industrial society in which, similar to Durkheim's concept of anomie, that normative and dogmatic bonds that used to encapsulate life, are liquified or difffused. This diffusion leads to an escape from the collective citizen position to the individual consumer position, in which people are more prone to isolation, anxities, fears, alienation - as well as the collective securities about individual life are replaced by an overemphasis of consequence on the individual.
@@nikolaivik6719 what you refer to is collapse of civilization, but adding fancy words doesn't change the outcome of the live experiment
@@Wolcik3000 No, I mean to refer society as it is colonized by the imperatives of capitalist systems, per Habermas' communicative action. The system isn't close to collapsing per se - but it is prone to an upscaling in conflict and uncertainty, by which the material conditions for societal change like revolution is met - however the capitalist system has succesfully rid of us participation in ethical fellowships, so any solidarity and equality won't be the rallying call of the next societal change unless we go trough great effort
does anyone know if Bauman's written anything that describes this theory in more detail?
Don't know whether it is of any use to you after 4 years, but Strangers at Out Door is a good book elaborating on this theory.
Bauman used it in almost everything he wrote. But you can find it in Moral blindness, Liquid fear, Liquid modernity, Modernity, and the Holocaust.
Their are a bulk of books written by Bauman
Please, do enlighten all of us as to how did you come up with the idea that I'm antisemitic? I, for sure, would like to hear about it.
rip Bauman you would've loved the instability of the Covid pandemic
Why do people either worship or hate Bauman? He was an active player in the history of world events, whether you agree with whatever flag he was waving, this gave him more perspective than any of you. At the same time, don't worship an ex-stalinist polish secret police officer who never fully revealed his past and very likely destroyed many families. He was a man who experienced much and had an interesting perspective of society to share. That should be enough.
I am afraid that the condemnation is because his stalinistic/communistic ideology only influanced his post modern state - he just used fancy words as tool for the next version of totalitarinism in the age when common man unless dumbified will be aware where the previous attempt lead
Brilliant
These thoughts were first voiced by some random Eastern European as the dust cloud of the rumored advance of the Huns appeared on the horizon.... and probably long before that.
An analysis akin to Nancy Fraser's multiple scales of justice, and the times of 'abnormal' justice in which the Keynesian-Westphalian nation-state is losing traction as the arbiter and primary grammar of justice.
Major Zygmunt Bauman what about your past???
Zygmunt Bauman - the killer of the NKVD!
He was not in the NKVD. He was a Polish Security Officer who was later purged by the Polish Communists in 1968.
Please, do enlighten me on what research did YOU do on this person? Do you read/write polish, the language which all his police/army files are written in? Real life is not Wiki. Do you know what KBW was doing in Poland? Do you know what NKVD was responsible for?
Your little argument would mean that the SS officer in a concentration camp that was writing down the names of the people to be killed on a specific day was innocent of any wrongdoing just because he was sitting at desk. Please, grow up.
THIS MAN SHOULD BE IN JAIL, HE WAS ONE OF THE BUTCHERS OF POLISH PEOPLE WHILE COMUNISM AND NOW THAT CRIMINAL IS BEING LISTENED AS A WISE MAN...WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT????? LOCK HIM UP!!
the state of flooows :o
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"We all know what that means" is on that level of argumentation that should be disregarded immediately as well as the person who makes such arguments. I personally don't care what Bauman did in the communist Poland, because it says nothing about his work. And his work is what I care about. And what this video is about.
Then you are same as him. Morderous psychopat with no empathy and without honor.
Am I demented because I don't let my emotions overwhelm me the way you do or because I am capable of seeing shades of gray where you are apparently not?
Evangeline Gateway
Stehr Dam
I am not "pissing on the graves of all the victims", at least not as much as you are on grammar and good manners
Secondly, if I am "pissing" on anything it's ad hominem attacks. Bauman's sociology would still be brilliant even if he were the most horrible person in the world.
Yes you are.
L u h m a n n . . .
A glimpse of the obvious?
war criminal? explain, please.
You're demented because, in your eyes, a killer of people that fought the nazis and the soviets(people that your 'hero' called terrorists in 2007!) is innocent of any wrongdoing just because he put some thoughts on paper.
And bravo to you, sir, for pulling out one word from a hundred, concentrating on it and ignoring my whole post. An old tactic when not having anything intelligent to say but it just doesn't work here.
Let it go and go see a specialist.
Good day!
I don't want to let it go. I think it's disgusting the way you are judging him; the same way the communists you loathe so much in your self-righteous zeal judged their opponents. You may have different ideals, but it's the same sword you're using.
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