Wittgenstein and Modernity

Panel discussion on 13 April 2016, Grillparzerhaus Vienna
Ray Monk (University of Southampton)
Marjorie Perloff (Stanford University)
Steven Beller (Washington DC, Historian)
Alfred Schmidt (Österreichische Nationalbibliothek, Moderation)

[@WittgensteinInitiative]

In the early twentieth century, Vienna’s artistic and cultural landscape
experienced an unprecedented shift toward modernity: Adolf Loos and the
Secession movement, Arnold Schönberg, Jung Wien and Karl
Kraus, Sigmund Freud, Ernst Mach and the Vienna Circle-just to mention
the most important names. Proceeding from Janik’s and Toulmin’s thesis
in Wittgenstein’s Vienna, the question will be explored
regarding to what extent Ludwig Wittgenstein’s philosophical work is
deeply rooted in this very specific culture of Viennese modernity.

[@44yyBBaakk]

thank you for the video! i wonder what is the title of the book on 30 minutes about Wittgenstein's view on music and art?

[@WittgensteinInitiative]

Hans Biesenbach: Anspielungen und Zitate im Werk Ludwig Wittgensteins. wab.uib.no/wp-no22_sample.pdf

[@DawsonSWilliams]

Wittgenstein's interest in the work of Oswald Spengler is certainly worth researching.

[@StephenCRose]

Ludwig laughs and shakes his head.

[@memephoto]

Which book Ray Monk refers to at 30:30?

[@petrabekere8314]

Yes, anyone here has the exact title and editor of the book? Thank you in advance.

[@michaelfuting2403]

Ray Monk has the ability to say the truth about wittgenstein in simple, clear words - because he has no interest to utter own meanings.

[@aqibparray3003]

Monk is really The Monk. Witgenstein's position on poetry and music must be elaborated further .

[@florianneanabellewebb3745]

That's the problem with all areas of knowledge, it in danger of dogatism and generalisations.

[@alinebaruchi1936]

Enfim
Não é minha culpa

[@lesliecunliffe4450]

Wittgenstein was repelled by modernity and modernism. The idea that he would have approved of conceptual art is quite absurd.

[@DawsonSWilliams]

I think you have over-simplified the question posed by the panel, as to whether or not Wittgenstein was Modern. The answer is more nuanced than yes or no. We know Wittgenstein respected Loos and Wagner's modern architecture. I also discovered that Wittgenstein actually read Joyce's "A Portrait of the Artist as a Youngman," and found the work to be riveting. Lastly, the very style of Wittgenstein's writing (only comparable in Pascal, Nietzsche, select Schopenhauer, and Kraus) as well as his attempts to change how we do philosophy, strikes me as modern. I have often thought of "Modernism," as breaking with tradition.

[@williampowhida572]

The longest intro I have ever heard, shut up and on with the panel.

[@findbridge1790]

LW was a neurotic fool and puppet of Lord Russell. These jerks have no idea what they're talking about. LW has become a cult fad object for people who have no notion what he was saying. In fact, his ideas about language, for ex, are all absurd. He is so overrated it's ridiculous. He was certainly a brilliant and captivating writer of the aphoristic sort, deserving the praise wrongly given to Nietzsche on that score, and he has an attractive personality -- refreshingly non-pompous, direct, humorous. But he was basically an engineer. And he had an engineer's way of looking at things. And although that's fine for engineering, it doesn't work for most of the things he was trying to understand, human language being the worst example of all.