Cross RC Demon SG4 - Assembled and Impressions
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- We got this detailed kit assembled so here's the pros and cons so far
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The rear shock kit to move the upper mounts to the out side is a night and day difference. Your videos are always outstanding. Looking forward to your run video.
Our run video is legit. Should publish tomorrow night!! :)
I like the rig for what it is, although it's never going to be a top performer. Still, it looks fantastic on the trail. That is easily the best looking non-licensed body on the market. Thumbs up on a thorough review.
Right on, astute observation. 1000 gram body is not going to be a spider up the rocks for sure. We'll explore it without the body.
Always interesting. ..thanks for sharing
Yeah, we try not to simply rave about each product. That doesn't help anyone.
Slop is good if you don’t have a super detailed low end motor. I like the rig a lot they are way different in person.
Well done RC Review Thanks!
Really appreciate.
That's a sick looking truck!!
Yes, lookss good indeed.
I am happy with my Trx4 Sport. Best out of the box. Few minor upgrades & it can compete with the best.
For the price you shouldn’t have any slop in the drive line. But it is a nice looking truck, great review as always.
absolutely agreed. It seems there are a few videos on their site on how to minimize. So it's a known issue. They should address it though.
It's a shelf queen, not a trail queen, for sure. It's a gorgeous, yet, in many regards, a highly flawed product.
Looked nice in the unboxing now that it is put together I am not really feeling it. I want that new Element Rc trucks now.
Great video. Non biased. I don’t know if sacrificing performance for details is the route I’m willing to take on this rig.
I don't have one yet but I'm going to have a different series of cross on your bads on the truck its not a gen 8 its a real scale truck just like a real truck you have to pick your path rc4wd same pick your path and it's scale and different scale I like your channel though
A angle on the rear shocks actually helps with articulation but this rig has the angle wrong or backwards lol, if you angle the rear shocks towards the front they compress easier and you get more articulation, angled towards the back will fight itself and not articulate well like you said.
I almost bought this RC! But thinking of getting the trx4 sport.
You won't be disappointed.
I just started rc my opinion isnt based on much. But i already have a redcat gen8 and 2 traxxas trx4! I love the trx4
Trx4 all the way. Parts support is amazing. Every local hobby shop stock them.
I had my TRX4 Sport for hours and already had days worth of fun already on it. You will not be disappointed with the Sport, and the amount of upgrade and scale parts available is outstanding. I bought the chassis kit a few months ago because I liked the Sport so much. When I bought my Sport just after it was released, I didn’t hear a single bad thing about it. The only thing to look out for is that the steering servo is weak. That can be replaced though.
Ideally, you want your shocks to travel on the same arc that your suspension travels on. Sometimes shock mounting positions are can be limited because of how much misalignment the shock eye can take before binding and limiting travel. Inboarding a shock can also allow you to use a shorter length shock than you would need if it was mounted in more of an upright position.
Great input. Much appreciated.
great review man, I've been wanting a demon for awhile now, but one question you didn't answer..... in you opinion, is it worth the money????
Wait til you see it run. That's the key missing piece now for value. But for the kit and build, good so far.
I have one and no it's not worth the money, looks the business but my buddy who I run with has a Carisma Coyote and it outperforms my Demon in every way. I've spent loads getting it to a reasonable performance level, which is why I'm getting a Trx4 sport kit.
This model SG4 has been out for a while now, I wonder if they fixed some of these issues in the new vehicles they released recently like the SU4.
Hi, Yung Aaaanie.
Changes made to the kit (some old, some new) as of the time I bought mine include the following:
1) The *driveshaft ends* no longer have those steel spiral bands. They have flat, solid, bronze/rusty looking bands. This supposedly fixes the issue of the driveshafts popping out but it looks hell of a lot less sexy to me.
2) Earlier units would have *missing fasteners.* Depending on where you buy your kit now, this should no longer be an issue. I understand that Shawn Black (the guy in charge of fulfillment at CrossRC.US) goes through every kits to makes sure to include all of the screws before shipping.
3) The *spiral cut gear pairs,* while still available for purchase separately, were discontinued almost immediately and replaced with straight cut gears after the first couple of production runs. (This is somewhat old news).
4) With earlier units, the machined aluminum CVD housings in the flagship *C* edition would have *shock mounting holes with no threading.* (The screws would just run straight through). Mines are threaded as expected.
Apart from these, I came across a couple of quality assurance issues, which I can get into if you'd like me to.
@@IllusionSector please get into, I'd like to know more about these particular trucks
I’ve considered getting off of these, but the tranny design link geometry and skid layout keep me on the fence. Looking forward to the driving impressions and possible fixes or upgrades to the areas of concern.👍🏼
For sure, definitely wait for our running videos. Some big surprises.
the gearbox is pretty robust, it surprised me, but after several hard runs on very rough rocky terrain and quite a few hard hill tumbles it gave out. but i took it apart and saw that the 2 metal plates that hold the gearbox together were bent. i have taken it apart, then put the plates in a vice to flatten them and it is now smooth again, but i am not sure how long it will last now, im due out tommorow with it to see :)
Keep us posted.
Necessary upgrades:
1) Link mounts on the skid plate bend too easy. Need Chassis Stiffener Kit (part CZR97400338)
2) stock rear shock angles cause way too much pivot. Need the rear shock mount (part CZR97400348)
I love my SG4c, it’s very detailed and fun to film.
Yes, those mounts bent so quickly for us And the shock angles in the rear are terrible
Thanks for the review Francis. It has some cool features but seems more like a budget truck at a not so budget price. Theyre on the right track but need to shore up some issues.
Not a budget truck but it's got some warts. The key is whether the bugs can be addressed.
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Let me star by saying that *I have no buyer's remorse and I love my Demon!*
Still, while I do like to think that CrossRC is going though some growing pains on its way to greatness, if it's to get there, it can't drop the ball on quality assurance, which is the impression I got from my own kit. (Again, the following are not even engineering issues but manufacturing QA issues):
I found as many as 3 issues with just the body cabin, which I had to request a replacement for, along with the hood. These were:
1) The hole on the right side tap on the rear wall of the cabin was waaaay off and riding to close to the edge. It looked like it was drilled by a child, or an intoxicated or otherwise impaired adult. This not only looked botched, but also prevented a nerf bar screw from being threaded through straight.
2) The glue holding the rear wall and the main part of the cabin had failed out of the box and the two parts were splitting at the bottom.
3) There was a very visible warp to the cabin and a slight one to the hood as well, which prevented the hood from sitting straight. The left side was nice and flush but the right side was raised and stuck out like a soar thumb.
Thankfully, their *customer support was outstanding* and they sent me replacements!
Additional issues I found:
1) As I mentioned, the hood had a slight but significant bend to it as well, which, when laid on the edge of a metal surface appliance (shoulder of a fridge, microwave, PC tower, etc.) so as to let the hinge taps hang and allow the bottom side to lay flat, the right front magnet would not make contact with the surface.
2) The depth of the cut on the double-sided 3M adhesive sheet provided for the attachment of the metal plates to the rear bed was not uniform and didn't go all the way through in most areas, which suggests that they carried on operating with a dulling dye blade. Because of this, when trying to detach the shape to apply it to the part, the actual adhesive was very dicie about whether it wanted to remain on the peeled side (with the 3M logos) or the bottom side. This made application a pain and, in parts, impossible. I'm having to buy an additional 3M sheet and manually cut out the shapes myself.
3) This one's a minor gripe, but the tip of the shock oil bottle cap had broken off in the box during shipment and the oil had spilled into the box and the manual.
This last one is not a QA or engineering issue, but, speaking of shock oil, the one supplied in the kit, and, by implication, recommended for the vehicle by the manufacturer, is 50wt, However, from what I hear, the optimal shock oil for this truck is 30wt.
It looks great
Great detailed and honnest review.
Thank you. Sometimes, we're afraid we're boring folks to death so appreciate the feedback.
Nice tee shirt man! 🏍 ✌🏽
Dainese for the win!!!!!
Sure I saw a post somewhere on how to shim the diff to remove the slop?
We're communicating now with CrossRC and they mentioned shimming right away.
Another great review. That rig looks top heavy. Reminds me of the old Tamiya Bruiser type crawlers. Hard bodies are great but too heavy in most cases. Rig has a lot of unrealized potential. Cross missed the mark with this one.
True, true. We're going to run it as well without the body to explore the potential of the chassis. If it's good, it might be worth putting a lexan body as well for rough days.
Doesn't the A model have a lexan body? Do you know what else is different between the A and B models?
Would love 2 see a video on the redcat crawback and see what I think of it
hi rc review! i just finished my SP4C kit and also noticed the play in the front/rear drive shafts. it looks like bad tolerances between the connection point between the shaft and the diff gear. when u bought the replacement off of ebay, was it a direct oem replacement? did it still have bad tolerances that u got some slop?
Swap in a set of your TRX-4 portals just to see if their better but I don't know if Cross has a chassis mounted servo upgrade
No space at all.
Can you help I have seen some upgrades version 2019 wts that? Are they different?
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I saw these coming out of Taiwan or some place for less than 200 before they were release in the states so I doubt the quality. I will buy one used for 150 tops.
Got a SG4 for over a years. The transmission stuck when the wheel spin. The cg is very high, I can't stand it so I change a pc body, now it's much better. however the rear still not soft enough. over all it's a decent vehicle and I love it. PS. how do you think about the tires and foams come with the truck, do you think it's necessary to change them?
The tires and foams seem very good. We'll put it in another test vehicle to confirm.
@@RCReviewChannel I got a set of hyrax g8 compoud, it's softer than these storck tires, but still not as soft as the rockbeast alien compound, we crawl rocks some times but mostly on dirt, which tire will you recommend?
I enjoy your content but you are wrong about this rig small amount of effort this kit is fantastic and very capable 90mm shocks, relocate the rears, space lower links in front ,axle weights, add a belly pan between link mounts then give it a go mate. Even the $1000 vanquish needs alittle help.
Really appreciate the input. Our transmission seems to strip in tough trail climbs And our link mounds to the chassis bend all the time.
Love seeing how it rolls through terrain though.
@@RCReviewChannel havent had the trans issue knock on wood .but for the link mounts use a rod connecting the two instead of the nuts. Just built a su4c and they now supply the rod with it
Did you ever get the transfer/transmission fixed from your test run ?
Yes! They warrantied it but it took a while and had to provide much documentation. Bought another one to get going again... $15 at Ebay. So tiny so it's good to have a spare.
Is it waterproof?
Full review here th-cam.com/video/nyPU9g27IEc/w-d-xo.html
I agree with your assessment.
It's a Premium priced Rig, but it has some bargain basement issues...
Rear Springs are a non issue though. ALL that slop is! And if the Winch is THAT bad - they should have given you a Dummy one.
I actually don't like the very limited and difficult to access Battery Tray. That's something not easily fixed.
I still like it... It's fantastic looking!
Carmine 🚂🚙✈
Very good analysis. Agree.
So Cross RC or G- Made
Neither. Axial Capra, Element RC or TRX6
May I ask you, are you a Filipino?
Opo. Pinanganak sa Marikina
@@RCReviewChannel nyzzz good to know you sir, maganda mga review mo.. starting build my trx4 this year hopefully a good christmas gift to myself...
drop ako ng message sir, pag nasimulan ko na trx4 ko.. thank you at maraming salamat
Wish you could visit our country someday.. marami ng scalers/crawlers dito.. at mag-trail meet tau.
Definitely has some good features and excellent potential but between missing parts poor instructions and absolutely rude and horrible customer service I wish I had never bought mine and would never recommend a cross RC
Sorry but axle mounted servo is only way to go!
:) with a servo guard, should work pretty good.
Why would they work so hard to make a scale truck and then stick the servo on the axle? It's unusable in comps and completely ugly from a scale perspective.