This is utterly disappointing with 5% offer! Id reject it. This is disgraceful and not valued NHS! Police and fire brigade had theirs 10% plus pay rise, inflation is above 10% and yet government offered 5% for nhs staff and a taxable lumpsum 😮i am lost for words and gutted!
I think unison and the RCN have let them down. There are so many more benefits to living in Scotland despite them having no borrowing powers and having to budget from a grant. They prioritise the majority of people over just the rich. The Tory media have brainwashed most of England against the Scottish government but they have actually done a lot for the Scottish people. Free university, free buses, free dentists for all under 26, fairer disability benefits, free childcare, land reform, opened up the land for wild camping, which is rare anywhere in the world. I know the GRA bill has lost them some support but people should actually look at what impacts their lives and what they could lose without the SNP.
Amazing ONE OFF payment 😂😡, this will be taken back from the worst off who are on Universal Credit. New Money available for Moldova. Look what’s happening in France over pensions.
@@acptelford1307 The government have already granted a 10% pay rise to everyone on minimum wage, so it's only far to replicate that across the board for all employees.
@@acptelford1307 yeah everyone will be happier, more incentivesed to go back to work and to work hard/overtime etc. One of thr wards I manage is 95% nurse gapped. People die all over thr country every hour because of low staff pay
spent more on downgraded failed PPE contracts to their chums. Gov directive to the top 350 employers to not give more than 5% pay rise if can help it aswell.
Sooo all the strikes till now and only 5%.... why couldn't the PM make that offer earlier? How much money has been wasted by this government in the last few months (it would be interesting to know if this offer was made by the unions before & why it took so long to get here)
@@samwoodsywoods That had nothing to do with leaving the EU. They actually planned to raise national insurance at first to fund the extra money for the NHS remember. We are worse off by billions out of the EU, and I stupidly voted for it. Immigration is even worse now, all they did was replace the polish with triple the amount from Nigeria. We were well and truly conned,
UNISON need to sack Sara Gorton. She sounds like a Government mole more than a Union spokesperson. Disgraceful, suggesting the hard working NHS staff accept crumbs.
Did she say 6%?! What a joke! Inflation is at 10%! So…after asking their members to strike, the union then settled for a real terms payout. Disgusting.
According to the recent Spring Budget, inflation is due to fall from 10% to 2.9% towards the end of 2023. So In theory...The 5% deal for Nhs staff will be a pay rise well above' inflation.😂
To be honest if I had been a unison representative ? And I was instructed by senior union officials,to submit the five percent offer to my members, I'm afraid I would have no option but to stand down, from my position as a union representative? And most probably to leave the unison completely, and I think I would also try to persuade my members to leave the union also?. (What an absolute insult, and what an absolute sell out by the members governing body.) Disgusting !???
this is bollocks. I am a top band 6 senior Nurse in Mental health and my one off sum which is just a one off will be 800 before tax. I work 48 hours a week or more and I will be taxed more. Pay has been cut for Nurses every year for the last 13 years with 1% for 5 years and well under inflation for the rest of the 13 years. My mileage claim for the last 6 months amounting to approx 700 has been refused by the private firm handling mileage reimbursement. so I've lost 1400 a year there plus wear and maintainance of my vehicle
The Nurses deserve better union leaders, who sincerely acts in their best interests. 5% is in fact a pay cut. It’s quite disgraceful of the union leaders to even formally consider such a measly pay offer. Both nurses and junior doctors need to realise that their skills are much valued elsewhere, other countries such as: Canada, Australia etc. are all vying for such skills - which are undoubted reflected in their salaries.
Yes twenty percent is acceptable ! I mean let's be fair any negotiation under ten percent, should not even be considered, especially with inflation rate running at eleven percent? And the union representatives should be ashamed to even consider it, let alone bring it before their members? And it's always been that pay raises should be in line with inflation ! This is one of the reasons that the pay review board , should be completely autonomous? And not influenced by either the unions or by the government, well that's the way I think.
Well done for fighting these self centered narcissists in government. Hopefully we can do tactical voting at the next election and remove them all from parliament.
If through covid and after. After banging on about how important it is for the nhs to not face too much pressure… it’s strange how they won’t pay staff more and more staff… waif it’s that important get your money out. Clearly it’s not actually as important as they make out.
If unison members, accept this pay offer, they will be no better off than they are now? And will have achieved absolutely nothing? So why did unison bother to go on strike in the beginning, what a waste of time.
It’s looking like the nursing staff are going to short themselves in the foot and reject this pay deal, they have all been told by the unions that this is the final offer, there is absolutely no logical reason to vote no or perhaps they like visiting food banks as they are keen to keep stressing. I earn less than a nurse in the nhs and I’ve never had to do this
Will it be more helful if the government spend the money on NHS instead of the Ukraine war? Focus on our country! Our people's benefit come first, not America's.
Very possibly. I don't but that everone supports them with this strike action.. I think k that's a media myth. They kicked people to the kerb throughout covid and now this. I see this as an egregious dereliction of duty.
what a coincidence that the number 5 and % sign are on the same key on your keyboard - hmmmm how did they come to this number conclusion, random? or some tosser looked down on keyboard and said give them 5 percent!!!
Yes people are dying because hospitals are understaffed and overstretched. The strike is because healthcare workers are sick of working in unsafe conditions like this.
Nurses at band 5 and firefighters earn about the same wage. Average band 5 nurse salaries are start at £27,055 for newly qualified and for firefighters its £27,311. Police are paid £21,402 average when they start. Everyone should be paid more for what they do.
@@nomadicbehemoth2830 I saw some other figures maybe they were London weightings. Yes there should be a decent staring salary for any vocational degree job upwards of £30k.
It’s intertwined. They desperately need more staff, but low wages don’t attract young people to the career while burnt out staff are leaving for better pay at unprecedented rates
NHS staff didn't need more money! They were already overpaid! And saying others get more means nothing! They shouldn't have, either! And the taxpayer pays for it all! And the taxpayers are the poor!
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It could be because they do a lot more good than most people? When your mum or Gran gets sick it’s nurses who take care of her in hospital and they work extremely difficult hours long and unsociable in an understaffed environment in a job which is very emotionally and mentally demanding. Maybe realise that the nurses aren’t the problem but it’s the governments failure of controlling the cost of living crisis- pointing fingers at each other only benefits those in power. Also like I’ve said the cost of living crisis really needs to actually be dealt with by this government but there’s no way an hourly wage at Prêt a Manger should be more than a junior doctors. A huge amount of U.K. health graduates do not want to work in the NHS and there’s no question understaffing and underpaying are a massive role. Those immigrants everyone seems to hate so much are what’s keeping the NHS alive- most people who’ve had the fortune of growing up in the U.K. see they’d have it better elsewhere while immigrants from developing countries are happy to take a life better than they’d have had.
Nhs striking more n more people dying, funny I’ve lost 6 family members over the past 2 months due to negligence and neglect my family will never be the same and before any snow flakes try’s to back the nhs I was a Porter and mortuary worker at lewisham hospital for about a year
Meanwhile everyone else in the country not in a government job gets on with life with minimal 2% increases.. it’s ironic they complain about not having enough staff, if everyone gets a raise the extra money for more staff is gone.. 🤣
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Reject it, 12 years of pay cuts and yet another.
37 billion on failed track and trace
This is utterly disappointing with 5% offer! Id reject it. This is disgraceful and not valued NHS! Police and fire brigade had theirs 10% plus pay rise, inflation is above 10% and yet government offered 5% for nhs staff and a taxable lumpsum 😮i am lost for words and gutted!
Fire Brigade got 7% , not 10%.
Minimum wage employees have been given 10% from £9.50 to £10.42 per hour, so 10% for everyone else should be the deal too.
interest up 11 percent so its a pay loss
It appears that Unison and Unite are neither.
A difference of £4,730 between top band in England and us up here in Scotland. If I was working for NHS England I'd be utterly fuming.
I'm fuming believe me!!!!
I think unison and the RCN have let them down. There are so many more benefits to living in Scotland despite them having no borrowing powers and having to budget from a grant. They prioritise the majority of people over just the rich. The Tory media have brainwashed most of England against the Scottish government but they have actually done a lot for the Scottish people. Free university, free buses, free dentists for all under 26, fairer disability benefits, free childcare, land reform, opened up the land for wild camping, which is rare anywhere in the world. I know the GRA bill has lost them some support but people should actually look at what impacts their lives and what they could lose without the SNP.
In my opinion anyone who is a doctor nurse surgeon deserves to be a millionaire. End of. Lifesavers.
Don’t forget free prescriptions
Amazing ONE OFF payment 😂😡, this will be taken back from the worst off who are on Universal Credit. New Money available for Moldova. Look what’s happening in France over pensions.
This Is sad and shocking. 😢 more will leave the nhs over time
Disgraceful. Reject the offer. 10% minimum (which is still a large pay cut given that essential bills are probably 40%+ higher)
Yeeehhhh. Give everybody 10% then see what happens lol
@@acptelford1307 or don't give it and see what happens lol.
@@acptelford1307 The government have already granted a 10% pay rise to everyone on minimum wage, so it's only far to replicate that across the board for all employees.
@@tridaks Bankruptcy ahead then
@@acptelford1307 yeah everyone will be happier, more incentivesed to go back to work and to work hard/overtime etc. One of thr wards I manage is 95% nurse gapped. People die all over thr country every hour because of low staff pay
spent more on downgraded failed PPE contracts to their chums. Gov directive to the top 350 employers to not give more than 5% pay rise if can help it aswell.
Unison and the RCN have let them down.
Not good enough, 5% is a joke
Martin Lewis pointed out that pay rises of 5% may be taxed enough to make it a win for the government as personal allowances have been frozen.
good.
@@AzguardMike Which part?
I hope they reject it. Even for the current year that's a real-terms pay cut, on top of 10 years of pay cuts.
33K a year, plenty of money.
@@AzguardMike who is on £33K per year? Not a Newley qualified nurse. Check the bandings
@@AzguardMike 33k is not enough lmao
Sooo all the strikes till now and only 5%.... why couldn't the PM make that offer earlier? How much money has been wasted by this government in the last few months
(it would be interesting to know if this offer was made by the unions before & why it took so long to get here)
I would of expected it to be that they hire more staff so they have better working conditions
UK left the EU - and could therefore spent 350mio per week in the NHS!?
Check the facts since we left the government have put more funding into the NHS than any other government in UK HISTORY
We have invested way more than 350 million per week NHS spending goes up constantly and is out of control
@@samwoodsywoods That had nothing to do with leaving the EU. They actually planned to raise national insurance at first to fund the extra money for the NHS remember. We are worse off by billions out of the EU, and I stupidly voted for it. Immigration is even worse now, all they did was replace the polish with triple the amount from Nigeria. We were well and truly conned,
@@lauralishes1 I agree about immigration but NHS spending has increased way more than previously projected
when they left EU they didnt have to pay the french anymore so there for we have that money i believe.
£2000 that takes care of the energy price (more or less) what about the food and rent/mortgage costs?
3000. For energy
Anything less than the inflation rate is yet another pay cut.
UNISON need to sack Sara Gorton. She sounds like a Government mole more than a Union spokesperson. Disgraceful, suggesting the hard working NHS staff accept crumbs.
There's no extra money, until there is.
NHS Scotland have been offered 14/15% over 2 years. I'd be absolutely incensed if I was working for NHS England.
Sold out and kicked to the kerb again.
So the Nurses representatives have took a pay cut in real terms. Clever. I would sue the Union for misrepresentation
Absolutely shocking... cancelled my unison membership waste of money
Government gave France £60 million and they ask where the money coming from some gernalists think
No way nurses will accept 5 % compared to 19% in Scotland ! What kind of deal?
In the grand scheme of things it’s not a win … it’s a dothing of the cap!
The Unions have been outplayed. The look on her face and words show loss. The Govt are doing a disgenious victory dance.
those nurses should at least get paid 40k without overtime
Did she say 6%?! What a joke! Inflation is at 10%! So…after asking their members to strike, the union then settled for a real terms payout. Disgusting.
5% pay rise when the initial request was 19% or 10% at least. 5% is pathetic for next year?@@@ 😂 that is unacceptable. I hope they vote to refuse it
According to the recent Spring Budget, inflation is due to fall from 10% to 2.9% towards the end of 2023. So In theory...The 5% deal for Nhs staff will be a pay rise well above' inflation.😂
So, a below inflation offer. Effectively a pay cut, and Unison says take it. Typical.
To be honest if I had been a unison representative ? And I was instructed by senior union officials,to submit the five percent offer to my members, I'm afraid I would have no option but to stand down, from my position as a union representative? And most probably to leave the unison completely, and I think I would also try to persuade my members to leave the union also?. (What an absolute insult, and what an absolute sell out by the members governing body.) Disgusting !???
No wonder why some british nurses transfer to private or overseas to have a better pay or working condition😢
Saving life everyday. It’s Insulting To be Honest. Pay offer 😮
Poor deal Vs Scottish nurses
I have no idea how this person can recommend the pay deal? It is a bad deal that is going to come back and haunt them.
Unions selling their members down the river
this is bollocks. I am a top band 6 senior Nurse in Mental health and my one off sum which is just a one off will be 800 before tax. I work 48 hours a week or more and I will be taxed more. Pay has been cut for Nurses every year for the last 13 years with 1% for 5 years and well under inflation for the rest of the 13 years. My mileage claim for the last 6 months amounting to approx 700 has been refused by the private firm handling mileage reimbursement. so I've lost 1400 a year there plus wear and maintainance of my vehicle
How much do they pay Nurses now then?
@@Ghost572 nurses band 6-7 average around £32,306 - £45,839 per year. Bare in mind this is an average some maybe more and others less.
Members vote, no
The Nurses deserve better union leaders, who sincerely acts in their best interests. 5% is in fact a pay cut. It’s quite disgraceful of the union leaders to even formally consider such a measly pay offer. Both nurses and junior doctors need to realise that their skills are much valued elsewhere, other countries such as: Canada, Australia etc. are all vying for such skills - which are undoubted reflected in their salaries.
From clap to slap... Counter offer lump sum for 22/23 and 10% payrise and 6months tax free wages
Yes now let’s get ready to pay £3bn extra in tax!! No one else is getting anything extra in private sectors for inflation!..
Anything less than inflation is a pay cut
I am shocked. How can the unions accept this? Less and less people will join the NHS in the future - could this be its end?
No where near a good settlement? I fact it’s horrendous
Absolutely disgraceful!
Goodbye NHS.....😢 what a waste of a strike !!
Your best attempt to negotiate is not good enough!
A 20 percent pay rise would seem reasonable to me.
Yes twenty percent is acceptable ! I mean let's be fair any negotiation under ten percent, should not even be considered, especially with inflation rate running at eleven percent? And the union representatives should be ashamed to even consider it, let alone bring it before their members?
And it's always been that pay raises should be in line with inflation ! This is one of the reasons that the pay review board , should be completely autonomous? And not influenced by either the unions or by the government, well that's the way I think.
Well done for fighting these self centered narcissists in government. Hopefully we can do tactical voting at the next election and remove them all from parliament.
Sunak Delighted 😡, I hope it’s rejected because after this there will NEVER be another strike allowed. The new private owners will write it into law.
@@aliterogasolini6401 private owners of what
@@aliterogasolini6401 They should ban all strikes. If the NHS was fit for purpose and functioned then fine, but it doesn't and it's not.
@@phantompizza nhs, when it gets broken and sold off cheep
The stupid thing is the NHS hasn't got any minimum staffing levels because there are more than half the positions vacant at the moment
If through covid and after. After banging on about how important it is for the nhs to not face too much pressure… it’s strange how they won’t pay staff more and more staff… waif it’s that important get your money out. Clearly it’s not actually as important as they make out.
Unison are terrible, as are the RCN.
If unison members, accept this pay offer, they will be no better off than they are now? And will have achieved absolutely nothing? So why did unison bother to go on strike in the beginning, what a waste of time.
Erm, what the feck? Put it to the members, but to recommend 5.2%? Youre having a laugh! I think there's going to be a LOT of very unhappy members
I'm a full time band 6. The proposed pay rise is not even enough to cover the increase in my child's nursery fees.
Really bad deal.
The problem with only a 5% pay rise is that the government has put tax up by 10% so now nearly 3/4 of their pay will go in taxes.
Basically it’s still a devaluation of your work
Unions were forced by government to ‘recommend’ the offer as a term of the offer. Very sharp practice by the Tories, as per usual.
It’s looking like the nursing staff are going to short themselves in the foot and reject this pay deal, they have all been told by the unions that this is the final offer, there is absolutely no logical reason to vote no or perhaps they like visiting food banks as they are keen to keep stressing.
I earn less than a nurse in the nhs and I’ve never had to do this
Sell out union! 😂😂
Dissapointing
Nowhere near enough for the job they do.
I am British. I work. I pay tax. But the government are happy to help immigrants. Cancel the nhs
Will be voting to decline plus voting the tories out at next opportunity
Refuse it
Health workers of today - segs workers of tomorrow.
ask the people are they happy to pay more tax and go without to pay for this
Let's start with taxing the super rich first then see where we are
I can’t get a doctors appointment, but imagine if my tax money wasn’t spent on transgenders
Comrade Starmer and Comrade Mick lynch will be devastated!😂😂😂
Will it be more helful if the government spend the money on NHS instead of the Ukraine war? Focus on our country! Our people's benefit come first, not America's.
QUIT AND DO AGENCY
If there not happy let them walk,
The NHS is inefficient and it expensive private hospitals would provide a better service at a cheaper price.
Very possibly.
I don't but that everone supports them with this strike action.. I think k that's a media myth.
They kicked people to the kerb throughout covid and now this. I see this as an egregious dereliction of duty.
what a coincidence that the number 5 and % sign are on the same key on your keyboard - hmmmm how did they come to this number conclusion, random? or some tosser looked down on keyboard and said give them 5 percent!!!
is this woman a manager of the trade union or she works for the Ministry of Finance ? I am not envy for nurses with such a trade union leaders ...
People are dying
Indeed. Those blue and pink rinses are particularly offensive.
@@j7ech402 who’s they?
Pay people then. We're not your slaves.
Paid my taxes , all my life , do we get a rebate .
Yes people are dying because hospitals are understaffed and overstretched. The strike is because healthcare workers are sick of working in unsafe conditions like this.
A very good pay offer to the nurses and ambulance workers and now they can help the most important people the patients
It's a poor deal since nurses, band 5, are still starting with salaries way lower than teachers and firethem (as Sam Smith calls them)!
Nurses at band 5 and firefighters earn about the same wage.
Average band 5 nurse salaries are start at £27,055 for newly qualified and for firefighters its £27,311. Police are paid £21,402 average when they start. Everyone should be paid more for what they do.
@@nomadicbehemoth2830 I saw some other figures maybe they were London weightings. Yes there should be a decent staring salary for any vocational degree job upwards of £30k.
BS
Hang on. I didn’t think it was about the money. What a load of cobblers
It’s intertwined. They desperately need more staff, but low wages don’t attract young people to the career while burnt out staff are leaving for better pay at unprecedented rates
@@2wheelsforever174 Gen Z don't want to do anything, that's just a life problem.
Till next year
Well I guess they just didn’t earn enough doing TikTok dance videos in the end.
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THAT SEEMS A VERY AMENABLE ATTITUDE BY UNISON AND ASSOCIATED COLLEGES AND OTHE PROFESSIONAL UNIONS INVOLVED.A RESPONSIBLE DECISION.
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5% 😂😂😂😂😂😂 what
I will throw a bone to the poor while giving the meat to the rich!! lets keep bragging about how great the bone is :)
NHS staff didn't need more money! They were already overpaid! And saying others get more means nothing! They shouldn't have, either! And the taxpayer pays for it all! And the taxpayers are the poor!
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Why do nurses deserve better treatment (no accountability we pay for it) than the rest of us are m an equal society?
Apparently we aren't, minimum wage people can suffer and nobody batts an eye.
It could be because they do a lot more good than most people?
When your mum or Gran gets sick it’s nurses who take care of her in hospital and they work extremely difficult hours long and unsociable in an understaffed environment in a job which is very emotionally and mentally demanding.
Maybe realise that the nurses aren’t the problem but it’s the governments failure of controlling the cost of living crisis- pointing fingers at each other only benefits those in power.
Also like I’ve said the cost of living crisis really needs to actually be dealt with by this government but there’s no way an hourly wage at Prêt a Manger should be more than a junior doctors. A huge amount of U.K. health graduates do not want to work in the NHS and there’s no question understaffing and underpaying are a massive role. Those immigrants everyone seems to hate so much are what’s keeping the NHS alive- most people who’ve had the fortune of growing up in the U.K. see they’d have it better elsewhere while immigrants from developing countries are happy to take a life better than they’d have had.
They should be paid equal not less for the sacrifices they make
Nurses got what 5%? Thats a joke. Minimum wage employees got 10%
@@BlackHairTie "A lot more good than most people" Jeez, talk about a judgment call. And this is why the general public loose all respect.
Nhs striking more n more people dying, funny I’ve lost 6 family members over the past 2 months due to negligence and neglect my family will never be the same and before any snow flakes try’s to back the nhs I was a Porter and mortuary worker at lewisham hospital for about a year
Really I would of expected them to be striking for better working conditions aka have more workers within the NHS.
@@Ghost572 honestly my friend I worked in lewisham hospital the nhs is extremely under staffed, we need more white British people in the nhs
@@Ghost572 I am Jamaican and will say straight up we definitely need more white British in the nhs
Meanwhile everyone else in the country not in a government job gets on with life with minimal 2% increases.. it’s ironic they complain about not having enough staff, if everyone gets a raise the extra money for more staff is gone.. 🤣
Minimum wage employees have just got 10%, so that should be a precedent for everyone else- 5% is an insult for skilled workers.
My mate at Ford just got offered 18% and he asked them for more…and they’re thinking about it!