Scarbs has been giving absolutely incredible analysis for so long, so glad to have him featured on the channel here. Always breaks it down so even an amateur can grasp what's necessary to understand the concepts
Is he a retired engineer and just bored or something? He has got to be more competent than the average engineer 🤣 I'm surprised he has the time for vids instead of tinkering on stuff
I know its a real struggle, but it'd be awesome to had some of these diagrams be animated, it'd really help in visually understanding the kinematics of the system.
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person. It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright) Do check it out if you're interested :)
this was the first tech talk video where I didn't understand a lot. when I saw the technical drawings I thought we might get small animations, but I know animating is a lot of work and not something the team usually does
Novice engineer and ex FS team member, the decoupled system is awesome! To look at, designing and packaging it is one of the hardest things I've encountered.
Was interesting to see how engineers managed to make "drop-down" suspensions without actually having active ones (controled by team or driver) just by making speed and steering angle limiting when/if to drop.
What this demo really needed was arrows showing the direction of where the force is being applied, once I was visualizing that, this all made a lot more sense, especially the heave damper
These geometrics and linkages make my brain hurt. Really genius stuff! Yeah once you get it it's entirely logical but someone had to come up with it first. Great video and great explanation.
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person. It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright) Do check it out if you're interested :)
Hmmm so up until last year it was too hard to tell of the legality of a teams suspension system?? So now due to the simplified suspension… now FIA can check for legality of all teams. That makes me wonder if Mercedes had a trick suspension up until last year and now they can’t use it. Maybe that’s why Russell keeps advocating for active suspension nowadays?
Yup especially after the Silverstone update last year, they had the suspension that goes so low on the straights and comes back up in the corners. That felt very unnatural for a normal suspension system
The reason why Redbull RB18 is faster than Mercedes W13 is that Redbull RB18’s shape makes it move in an “aerodynamic envelop” whilst Mercedes moves on an “aerodynamic plane”. The reason is the bottleneck formed by the side pods on the Redbull RB18 and on other cars. Assuming that models of Redbull RB18 and Mercedes W13 were made of slippery/soapy material, it would be impossible to lift the Mercedes around the side pods due to its triangular cross-section; but one would easily lift the Redbull RB18 below the side pods. This is what aerodynamic flow at high speeds does. Whereas the Mercedes is just pressed down by air but lifted up by mechanical suspension springs. The aerodynamic envelope around the Redbull RB18 gets more effective the faster the car moves, and as such dampens the tendency to porpoise. Thus, the body is pressed down and lifted up by the same aerodynamic flow - but different in magnitudes down and up. The resultant effect is that the car body moves in an aerodynamic equilibrium, shaped like the letter - C - turned over by 90°. If one imagines the way an umbrella can be flipped over in stormy weather, then one can reckon that the aerodynamic envelope around Redbull RB18’s side pods stabilizes the car body to such an extent that porpoising is fully attenuated. The fact that aerodynamic loads pressing the car down and lifting it up around the side pods increase or decrease in equilibrium, engineers simply have to make fine adjustments to get maximum downforce without porpoising. Redbull RB18’s mechanical suspension therefore only dampens the usual track surface vibration and does not cause any oscillatory movement - porpoising. Even if it were to porpoise slightly, the aerodynamic “envelope-” would counteract by proportionately damping the tendency; Mercedes, on the other hand, is simply pressed down 100% aerodynamically but lifted up 100% mechanically - thus the cause of porpoising. Mercedes has no choice but to emulate Redbull RB18 by using the side-pod bottleneck. One cannot go around physics by a “trial and error” approach; one must have an objective that is economically, legally, scientifically, and technically viable.
Scarbs is the sort of guy that will come around to your house when you have just bought your first supercar and tells all about how it works. He reminds of James May. Haha.
it's great scarbs is saying 'damping' and not dampening. since we're not trying to get the suspension slightly wet. we're not trying to 'dampen' anything.
I’d love to see a similar view and analysis of the Mercedes rear suspension for 2022. Clearly they have not been able to control the porpoising as well as the other teams. What they tried at Azerbaijan seems to have made it worse - certainly for Hamilton. I also had a laugh at Toto Wolf saying “maybe we need a rule change” - talk about cheeky. C’mon man! You are Toto Wolf and this is Mercedes Benz. Quit wingeing and fix it!!
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person. It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright) Do check it out if you're interested :)
These is a very interesting video and explanation, but I will suggest you if posible to add some movement to your drawings in order to be more explícit, we are F1 fans but not every one can understand all the information regarding mechanical issues and movement of all partes. Thank you and hope you can do that in the future.
Thanks, Scarbs and nice explanations, but would work so much better with animated diagrams - what happens when a pivot happens on a pivot point etc? Maybe that's something that could be worked on?
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person. It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright) Do check it out if you're interested :)
Complex systems like suspensions really need to be animated. People do not even understand how a heave damper is indeed decoupled and works only in heave, when its not animated. So even simple suspension system need to be animated. A lot of youtubers do this. So it would really be something formula-1 tec channel needs to improve.
F1 is the sport of Kings and the king of Sports!!! This is a great overview, but I’m still unsure about how the suspension works. For example, at 3:15 or so he is talking about the torsion bar being attached to the rocker and the “chassis” and .... (huge leap) Bob’s your uncle. Great, but that leap is huge; what does “attached to the chassis” mean and how and why does that system/geometry actually work? And how do the dials and buttons on the steering wheel change the characteristics of any of these miraculous gizmos? Maybe you guys could slow it down a bit and show video graphics of the suspension in action to help us better see and understand these complicated systems. I would pay more for that kind of content.
when he says attached to the chassis he likely means it's literally attached. Same as how most cars have coilovers with the top end of the coilover connected to some point on the car's frame and the bottom end being linked to the wheel.
There are no settings that change suspension dynamics on the steering wheel, the things they can change are engine/ers modes, differential settings which changes how power is distributed between the wheels through corners, and brake bias/balance which changes how much braking force each wheel generates.
Thanks. The engineering and material science is all so amazing that it seems like magic. Best I sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. Thanks again to all.
If teams don't radically solve the porpoising issue by the end of this season, FIA better reintroduce the inerter. Drivers cannot continue with this amount of physical trauma. Drivers of the old wingcars era developed long-term problems.
Some teams don’t really have a problem with porpoising do they? Or at least it’s a lot less bad. Red Bull for instance. The other teams just have to be clever and find a way to deal with it.
MX and SX riders want a word...but in all seriousness the FIA does need to let teams solve the issue with developing or proven technology, not hamstring them. That's one of the things that was/is great about F1, innovation and tech at it's highest level in motorsport.
@@ilusoriob Yes, but I think it's a long-term safety issue. It's not acceptable that MSC breaks the car in half and jump off fine, but HAM just after a GP seems totally crashed.
Am I missing something? On the rear suspension, if the pivot arms (gray) are connected by a solid link (also gray) how do the dampener and spring (in red) operate?
This the type of content I love to watch from F1, I always wanted to see the technical side of F1. I suggested for more technical content when one time they asked the fans "What type of content we would like to see". I'm happy they have started to create video content for it.
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person. It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright) Do check it out if you're interested :)
As this is not homologated and Haas uses Ferrari tech, when Ferrari updates are they obliged to share/give updates to Haas or do they have to wait until next year for new setup?
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person. It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright) Do check it out if you're interested :)
why it'snt possible to manage the porpoising by making the last bit of the travel suspension really hard, to avoid the bottom of the car touch the ground ?
I'm asking my self the same thing. Making the last bit of suspension really hard to avoid touching, but I guess the stress on the different component would be really hard, but I would like someone to answer that also.
So do they not allowed to have a "hard stop" on their suspension? I'm thinking if they have a hard stop then it can stop the rear goes down too much, stall the airflow and get rid of/reduce bouncing.
They have hard stops - just not mentioned here. You can’t have extra dampers/springs anymore, though, so if you ever get to the stop you’re going to bounce off of it and not really be able to control it. I understand what you’re thinking though - if the porpoising is set off by the rear of the car being too low, just stop suspension travel at that height. Kind of the opposite of what Mercedes had last year with the collapsing suspension at high speed. It’s just not allowed anymore as part of the suspension simplification regs
A channel called Kyle.engineers (ex merc aerodynamicist) has a really detailed analysis video on the mechanics of porpoising and in it goes into detail on the interplay of the hard stops and porpoising and why it’s not such a straight forward solution.
Watching all these cars bounce down the track isn’t a great advert for what should be the pinnacle of motor sport. Ross Braun and his team boasted about how much work went into these new rules and no one predicted this farce? It’s turning into a huge embarrassment.
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person. It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright) Do check it out if you're interested :)
"we dont have time in this show to explain it all". Mate, this is youtube, anyone that clicks this video is going to want an in depth deep dive regarding this topic. I would suggest making content for the people.
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person. It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright) Do check it out if you're interested :)
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person. It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright) Do check it out if you're interested :)
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Scarbs has been giving absolutely incredible analysis for so long, so glad to have him featured on the channel here. Always breaks it down so even an amateur can grasp what's necessary to understand the concepts
Is he a retired engineer and just bored or something? He has got to be more competent than the average engineer 🤣 I'm surprised he has the time for vids instead of tinkering on stuff
Haas need a centrifugal supercharger on their car, their car is way too slow
He's more than just featured; he is an actual member of the broadcast team now. Most of his work is locked behind a pay wall sadly.
@@seancowan908 Just a journalist who has been covering the sport since the 1970s.
i'm shocked to see you here
I know its a real struggle, but it'd be awesome to had some of these diagrams be animated, it'd really help in visually understanding the kinematics of the system.
You would love the Chain Bear F1 channel.
@@Affalterbach1967 Took the words right of my mouth...
GREAT idea and request!
Or at least a miniature f1 car to show the types of movements
I came here to say this.
I love the insights. More of such content please
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person.
It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright)
Do check it out if you're interested :)
this was the first tech talk video where I didn't understand a lot. when I saw the technical drawings I thought we might get small animations, but I know animating is a lot of work and not something the team usually does
Chainbear made a video talking about how the suspension works with some animations so perhaps that would help you understand a little bit better :o
Albert will bring it life for us
@@Venikks thank you :)
@@Venikks it is sad youtube doesn't put chains vids in recomendations
Craig! A living legend!
I stumbled across Scarbs pretty simple webpage forever and a day ago and have been mesmerized ever since. So glad to see him doing pieces like this!
Excellent piece! A great way to take this to the next level is to include animations so we can better visualize how these things actually move.
To me, this was an incredible presentation of a complex subject. Kept me hooked the entire way through. Well done Scarbs! 👍🏻
Novice engineer and ex FS team member, the decoupled system is awesome! To look at, designing and packaging it is one of the hardest things I've encountered.
Was interesting to see how engineers managed to make "drop-down" suspensions without actually having active ones (controled by team or driver) just by making speed and steering angle limiting when/if to drop.
“If you believe it’ll work out, you’ll see opportunities. If you don’t believe it’ll work out, you’ll see obstacles.” - Wayne Dyer
Manifest ✊🏽
Mercedes needs to read this😂
What this demo really needed was arrows showing the direction of where the force is being applied, once I was visualizing that, this all made a lot more sense, especially the heave damper
These geometrics and linkages make my brain hurt. Really genius stuff! Yeah once you get it it's entirely logical but someone had to come up with it first. Great video and great explanation.
Absolutely loved everything I learned from this video. I am so glad F1 TH-cam also teaches you about the sport as time goes by.
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person.
It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright)
Do check it out if you're interested :)
This is fantastic video, very explanatory. I was surprised none of the dials on the steering wheel adjust the suspension.
Think that isn't allowed because it would be considered active suspension (or even aero, as lowering the suspension would reduce drag)
Please never stop this series
Always great to see Scarbs on the channel!
clear as mud. Ever thought about using something called animations ?
Hmmm so up until last year it was too hard to tell of the legality of a teams suspension system?? So now due to the simplified suspension… now FIA can check for legality of all teams. That makes me wonder if Mercedes had a trick suspension up until last year and now they can’t use it. Maybe that’s why Russell keeps advocating for active suspension nowadays?
Yup especially after the Silverstone update last year, they had the suspension that goes so low on the straights and comes back up in the corners. That felt very unnatural for a normal suspension system
@@gouthamb884 they basically had a 2nd smaller DRS which was also not intended to be allowed by the rules.
The reason why Redbull RB18 is faster than Mercedes W13 is that Redbull RB18’s shape makes it move in an “aerodynamic envelop” whilst Mercedes moves on an “aerodynamic plane”. The reason is the bottleneck formed by the side pods on the Redbull RB18 and on other cars.
Assuming that models of Redbull RB18 and Mercedes W13 were made of slippery/soapy material, it would be impossible to lift the Mercedes around the side pods due to its triangular cross-section; but one would easily lift the Redbull RB18 below the side pods. This is what aerodynamic flow at high speeds does. Whereas the Mercedes is just pressed down by air but lifted up by mechanical suspension springs. The aerodynamic envelope around the Redbull RB18 gets more effective the faster the car moves, and as such dampens the tendency to porpoise. Thus, the body is pressed down and lifted up by the same aerodynamic flow - but different in magnitudes down and up. The resultant effect is that the car body moves in an aerodynamic equilibrium, shaped like the letter - C - turned over by 90°. If one imagines the way an umbrella can be flipped over in stormy weather, then one can reckon that the aerodynamic envelope around Redbull RB18’s side pods stabilizes the car body to such an extent that porpoising is fully attenuated. The fact that aerodynamic loads pressing the car down and lifting it up around the side pods increase or decrease in equilibrium, engineers simply have to make fine adjustments to get maximum downforce without porpoising. Redbull RB18’s mechanical suspension therefore only dampens the usual track surface vibration and does not cause any oscillatory movement - porpoising. Even if it were to porpoise slightly, the aerodynamic “envelope-” would counteract by proportionately damping the tendency; Mercedes, on the other hand, is simply pressed down 100% aerodynamically but lifted up 100% mechanically - thus the cause of porpoising. Mercedes has no choice but to emulate Redbull RB18 by using the side-pod bottleneck. One cannot go around physics by a “trial and error” approach; one must have an objective that is economically, legally, scientifically, and technically viable.
Scarbs is the sort of guy that will come around to your house when you have just bought your first supercar and tells all about how it works. He reminds of James May. Haha.
Wish I can see an animation of the suspension moving slowly when conering, braking and accelerating🙃
it's great scarbs is saying 'damping' and not dampening. since we're not trying to get the suspension slightly wet. we're not trying to 'dampen' anything.
Yes! I work with instrumentation that requires damping, and so many people say dampening. Its a pet peeve definitely
@@philipcooksey3422 i can't stand it hearing it
I’d love to see a similar view and analysis of the Mercedes rear suspension for 2022. Clearly they have not been able to control the porpoising as well as the other teams. What they tried at Azerbaijan seems to have made it worse - certainly for Hamilton. I also had a laugh at Toto Wolf saying “maybe we need a rule change” - talk about cheeky. C’mon man! You are Toto Wolf and this is Mercedes Benz. Quit wingeing and fix it!!
Great insight, thank you Craig!
Amazing video, thank you!
Very very detailed, love it.
Great vídeo!!!! Nice explanation!!
Scarbs is GOATED
Fantastic video, Craig is great
This was a super interesting vid! 👍🏻👍🏻
Scarbs, you rock, bro!! 🤙🏼👏🏼
Scarbs has reached official F1 channel also
Very well presented!
Nice tech content. I love to see more
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person.
It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright)
Do check it out if you're interested :)
Thanks liberty media you're the best 👍👍👍💕
Thank you for the information and explanation.
adding info about price and turnover during a season of parts would be interesting when you show n tell specific parts of the cars
These is a very interesting video and explanation, but I will suggest you if posible to add some movement to your drawings in order to be more explícit, we are F1 fans but not every one can understand all the information regarding mechanical issues and movement of all partes.
Thank you and hope you can do that in the future.
incredible video
Thanks, Scarbs and nice explanations, but would work so much better with animated diagrams - what happens when a pivot happens on a pivot point etc?
Maybe that's something that could be worked on?
Great technical overview. More interesting than the actual racing!
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person.
It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright)
Do check it out if you're interested :)
That was awesome. Thanks.
Great video , very interesting topic .
Very educational thank you.
Scrabs knowledge is intimidating
I believe that if Craig and Albert Fabrega work together. They would create the best car of F1 history
that makes you very naive, because every engineer within the teams is smarter and more knowledgable than both of them...
Loves Scarbs!
Complex systems like suspensions really need to be animated. People do not even understand how a heave damper is indeed decoupled and works only in heave, when its not animated. So even simple suspension system need to be animated. A lot of youtubers do this. So it would really be something formula-1 tec channel needs to improve.
Ah I didn't get any of that.
There should be an animation showing the direction how those dampers are moving to give more clarity.
Love these
F1 is the sport of Kings and the king of Sports!!! This is a great overview, but I’m still unsure about how the suspension works. For example, at 3:15 or so he is talking about the torsion bar being attached to the rocker and the “chassis” and .... (huge leap) Bob’s your uncle. Great, but that leap is huge; what does “attached to the chassis” mean and how and why does that system/geometry actually work? And how do the dials and buttons on the steering wheel change the characteristics of any of these miraculous gizmos? Maybe you guys could slow it down a bit and show video graphics of the suspension in action to help us better see and understand these complicated systems. I would pay more for that kind of content.
when he says attached to the chassis he likely means it's literally attached. Same as how most cars have coilovers with the top end of the coilover connected to some point on the car's frame and the bottom end being linked to the wheel.
Thx.
There are no settings that change suspension dynamics on the steering wheel, the things they can change are engine/ers modes, differential settings which changes how power is distributed between the wheels through corners, and brake bias/balance which changes how much braking force each wheel generates.
Thanks. The engineering and material science is all so amazing that it seems like magic. Best I sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. Thanks again to all.
can you do a video on pre 2022 suspension ?
View rate in unbelievable in this channel. 100-200 views per minute
nothing impressive really
Great insights 💯💯💯💯
If teams don't radically solve the porpoising issue by the end of this season, FIA better reintroduce the inerter. Drivers cannot continue with this amount of physical trauma.
Drivers of the old wingcars era developed long-term problems.
Agree with you. I also hate it when FIA bans innovative technologies such as Renault's Active Suspension and Mercedes' DAS.
Some teams don’t really have a problem with porpoising do they? Or at least it’s a lot less bad. Red Bull for instance. The other teams just have to be clever and find a way to deal with it.
MX and SX riders want a word...but in all seriousness the FIA does need to let teams solve the issue with developing or proven technology, not hamstring them. That's one of the things that was/is great about F1, innovation and tech at it's highest level in motorsport.
That's what Mercedes want. They just need to do a better job.
@@ilusoriob Yes, but I think it's a long-term safety issue. It's not acceptable that MSC breaks the car in half and jump off fine, but HAM just after a GP seems totally crashed.
This was great, it was just a little beyond me.
Nice mic Scarbs
Am I missing something? On the rear suspension, if the pivot arms (gray) are connected by a solid link (also gray) how do the dampener and spring (in red) operate?
@9:43
This the type of content I love to watch from F1, I always wanted to see the technical side of F1. I suggested for more technical content when one time they asked the fans "What type of content we would like to see". I'm happy they have started to create video content for it.
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person.
It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright)
Do check it out if you're interested :)
Would renault's mass damper that was made illegal, help for the current situation?
Or even GM's magnetic dampers?
Whenever there is a suspension episode i remember the j dampers of mclaren
"Pinnacle of engineering"
As this is not homologated and Haas uses Ferrari tech, when Ferrari updates are they obliged to share/give updates to Haas or do they have to wait until next year for new setup?
Haas/Ferrari setup is interesting. Guess they put the heaviest parts at the bottom?
Can somebody please produce a Craig Scarborough version of 'my baby all gone.'
Are any of the F1 teams using Fluidics to control under floor pressure fluctuations?
The more I know, the more questions I have.
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person.
It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright)
Do check it out if you're interested :)
Yay Scarbs!
Is it possible for the larger tyres to create porpoising
why it'snt possible to manage the porpoising by making the last bit of the travel suspension really hard, to avoid the bottom of the car touch the ground ?
its the guy from Driver61
Would be fine if it worked. Does any manufacturer have a handle on it yet??
They seemed to have GE work better decades ago.
2006 we had Mass Dampers in front and rear and now we have bouncing cars, what painful decline xDxDxD
Should a very "slow" heave damper at the rear fix the more extreme cases of porpoising?
I'm asking my self the same thing. Making the last bit of suspension really hard to avoid touching, but I guess the stress on the different component would be really hard, but I would like someone to answer that also.
Great vid Craig very well explained
Mercedes: "write that down! Write that down!"
Someone needs to put a gopro inside to see this contraption work !
I think we need a whole episode to explain STICKY UPPY BITS! Who agrees!
Fantastic content Graig
pitch and roll and downforce. An F1 car is essentially an airplane flying upside-down
What are the torsion bars made of?
Animation missed, maybe we could understand porpoising better from that angle
So do they not allowed to have a "hard stop" on their suspension? I'm thinking if they have a hard stop then it can stop the rear goes down too much, stall the airflow and get rid of/reduce bouncing.
They have hard stops - just not mentioned here. You can’t have extra dampers/springs anymore, though, so if you ever get to the stop you’re going to bounce off of it and not really be able to control it.
I understand what you’re thinking though - if the porpoising is set off by the rear of the car being too low, just stop suspension travel at that height. Kind of the opposite of what Mercedes had last year with the collapsing suspension at high speed. It’s just not allowed anymore as part of the suspension simplification regs
A channel called Kyle.engineers (ex merc aerodynamicist) has a really detailed analysis video on the mechanics of porpoising and in it goes into detail on the interplay of the hard stops and porpoising and why it’s not such a straight forward solution.
I thought that Haas said that they were doing there own rear end because it gave them some freedoms that the Ferrari unit didn't provide them.
I think that was Alfa, they even did their own gearbox.
公開から時差があっても構いません。F1TVの動画に日本語字幕を付けてもらえないでしょうか？
Don't let your guard down.
Didn’t know Heston blumenthal knows his f1
The 'extra' camera angles that leave him taking to the wall really don't help!
We need animation and auto subtitle on
Watching all these cars bounce down the track isn’t a great advert for what should be the pinnacle of motor sport. Ross Braun and his team boasted about how much work went into these new rules and no one predicted this farce? It’s turning into a huge embarrassment.
McLaren and Mercedes have been watch this on repeat
Hopefully Mercedes take notes to solve this porpoising bcz it’s hard for me to watch my team struggles
Honestly didn't get anything, might be the first time on this series but it's so hard visualise especially with the jargon.
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person.
It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright)
Do check it out if you're interested :)
"we dont have time in this show to explain it all". Mate, this is youtube, anyone that clicks this video is going to want an in depth deep dive regarding this topic. I would suggest making content for the people.
If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person.
It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright)
Do check it out if you're interested :)
just waiting till they use a fibreglass leaf spring to save weight
Alrite...now what we need is anti purposing system for the car
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If it helps, Scarbs is conducting a 2-day LIVE Workshop on F1 Systems tomorrow and data after (3,4 Feb). You get to listen to and interact with him in person.
It's being conducted in association with United Motorsports Academy (backed by the likes of Scarbs, Peter Windsor, Ian Wright)
Do check it out if you're interested :)
Cool explanation but can u ask the Spanish guy to explain it for casual f1 fans like me