F1 Suspension pt 1 - the Basics: Pushrod, Pullrod, Dampers, Torsion Bars

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    Suspension! A bouncy enigma! Even more so in F1 as you can't really see any of it - it's all hidden and tiny inside the nose. So let's have a look at what suspension is, why we need it and how F1 cars' suspension is designed for ultimate packaging. Here we cover the layout of suspension, pushrod and pullrod systems, dampers and torsion bars.
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  • @f1statster457
    @f1statster457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +813

    The bear is out of hibernation, I repeat the bear is out of hibernation

    • @FormulaTurismo
      @FormulaTurismo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Brilliant I love it.

    • @frederic.lindboe
      @frederic.lindboe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

    • @amdrke
      @amdrke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Don't you mean hibearnation?

    • @FormulaTurismo
      @FormulaTurismo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amdrke Yes we do. Nice one.

    • @akrinornoname2769
      @akrinornoname2769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roger that. Eagle is heading towards nest.

  • @Wizzkidwas
    @Wizzkidwas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    >New chain bear video
    Oh yes
    >Part 1
    LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO

  • @coolio33388
    @coolio33388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1357

    Something tells me this video will leave us in *suspense*

  • @juanin200
    @juanin200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Chain Bear saying "in the next video we'll go deeper into..." made me feel like I was in school. And you know what? I've never been so glad to feel at school

  • @excalibur4366
    @excalibur4366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    “Assume rectangular F1 car”

    • @trash1000
      @trash1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      So, a Williams?

    • @chaitanyakumar9626
      @chaitanyakumar9626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@trash1000 and a Ferrari

    • @BMR3
      @BMR3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *brain breaks 🤯

    • @audioguitarman
      @audioguitarman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      "Assume a frictionless environment"

    • @RaiderRich2001
      @RaiderRich2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or just imagine a NASCAR Cup car... That works too

  • @FrankvanVoorthuizen
    @FrankvanVoorthuizen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Fun fact: my old peugeot 106 had torsion bar suspension at the rear. So it was much more like an F1 car than I knew!

    • @Thatrageface
      @Thatrageface 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      To make it even better: the reason we have hybrid v6 engines now is to offer a breeding ground for technology that is actually useful in road cars, unlike those brawly v10's etc.
      To me personally it feels like the FIA and the teams made a conscious decision to reduce the competitiveness of the sport in trade for greater technological advancement.

    • @samarvora7185
      @samarvora7185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Maniac"

    • @HuleAbhishek
      @HuleAbhishek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My car also touches the road at wheels. So it’s much much similar to an F1 car

    • @syntheovaldy5173
      @syntheovaldy5173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HuleAbhishek 😂😂😂

    • @reyz1713
      @reyz1713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HuleAbhishek "If my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bike" haha

  • @elmurcis1
    @elmurcis1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    - Hi, Rod, can I push you?
    - No, better pull me.
    - Okay, Rod.

    • @fridolfgranq
      @fridolfgranq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rod belongs in the rear

    • @LeadFarmer1597
      @LeadFarmer1597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      IN ROD WE TRUST

    • @aszym_triblant6660
      @aszym_triblant6660 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      push me
      and then just touch me

    • @SharikhKhan138
      @SharikhKhan138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aszym_triblant6660, til' I can get my... s a t i s f a c t i o n .

  • @vridiantoast7096
    @vridiantoast7096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Ooooo the anti-bouncy thing!

  • @Mrzoux1
    @Mrzoux1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Absolutely brilliant video. A masterpiece : animations on point and very helpful, script is clear and direct, every concept is explained carefully but without being too heavy, I mean you've got yourself another subscriber!

  • @TypicallyThomas
    @TypicallyThomas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This reminds me of an old Chevy film in which they explain these concepts. In the 40's instead of ads you had documentaries explaining the product

    • @engineergaming4295
      @engineergaming4295 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Over the waves” is what it’s called

    • @TypicallyThomas
      @TypicallyThomas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@engineergaming4295 That's the one! Thanks!

  • @billyindiarto7209
    @billyindiarto7209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How did it take this long for someone to make a relatively accessible explanation of F1's suspensions? Well done Chainbear, keep up the great work!

  • @christophercastor6666
    @christophercastor6666 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are like the coolest Uncle in the paddock in the best way ever. Thank you for your generosity and knowledge.

  • @Setright
    @Setright 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely simplified!
    A coil spring is just a torsion bar, that has been wound. As the bar twists, it pulls the coil tight.

  • @troy7481
    @troy7481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for saying 'damping' rather than 'dampening'!! My OCD can rest easy now. Keep up the great videos, I am quite looking forward to the next one!

  • @helderboymh
    @helderboymh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is gonna get a new life I suspect.
    This is probably one of the best ( technical) videos you made. Easy to follow, not to long and it leaves you with a pretty complete understanding of how it works.

  • @fredherfst8148
    @fredherfst8148 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally....never seen a clear explanation of f1 suspension basics before. Another kudo from a f1 fan.
    In many cases, there is a basic assumption that all fans know what is being discussed when terms like torsion bar are thrown around, or when great import is placed on the height and position of the visible elements.

  • @michaeloakes113
    @michaeloakes113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wonderful. there is more insight into these videos than i have learned in watching F1 for decades. NICE WORK!

  • @ThorntonEditing
    @ThorntonEditing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video! These kind of explainers in depth of the car mechanics are exactly what I've always wanted

  • @Phos9
    @Phos9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I have a sort of correction: a torsion bar is a spring, it’s essentially a coil spring that’s been straightened out, and when it’s torsioned, that’s the same process that happens to a coil spring, a coil spring is also being torsioned in the same way in order to compress.

    • @EscapeMCP
      @EscapeMCP 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also have a correction (I think - not 100% though). When he has the diagram of the wheel at say 7:21, the wheel tilts. Surely the wheel should move directly up and down. No rotation. The 2 wishbones form 2 sides of a parallelogram. If the wishbones are not attached to the chassis immediately above and below each other, then the tyre should only move up and down and not tilt?? Maybe he's saving that for the next vid :)

    • @EscapeMCP
      @EscapeMCP 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And also, what's with the magic bump @ 2:34? Are active roads becoming a thing in 2021?

    • @Phos9
      @Phos9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EscapeMCP With equal length suspension arms that would be the case, but camber gain during compression is desirable.

  • @dsf0501
    @dsf0501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Incredible stuff as always! Welcome back! Another video idea if I may: once the new f1 2021 game comes out, maybe try to explain in one video what each setup choice will do to the car and where to start, what impacts what etc (you can link your previous, more detailed videos at each setup choice then). It does not need to be perfect as codemasters do not code the perfect reality but just so people get the point :) I think this would be an instant hit and it is something no one on TH-cam could properly explain to me yet!

  • @axelvb5142
    @axelvb5142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Starting to think skill share is a minority stake owner in this channel

  • @p.kuansuwan2070
    @p.kuansuwan2070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! Dimensions better than my Physics class.

  • @Mr.Nobody244
    @Mr.Nobody244 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I work on suspension systems for a regular car and this explanation is just spot on, from basics to advanced concepts.👏👏

  • @lfc-europe
    @lfc-europe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chain Bear video. My Monday is transformed. Thanks Stuart!

  • @lagautmd
    @lagautmd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some folks do 10 minute videos and at 5 minutes it feels like 10 and it should be over, I am wishing it was over a small bit because they are just stretching. Others, such as yourself, provide such clear descriptions and graphics that I'm really surprised that it's 10 minutes already! Wait, we are ending part 1 already? Nice job!

  • @zell189
    @zell189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The animation is godlike in this video

  • @mkevilempire
    @mkevilempire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm only loosely a fan of motorsports, but since I very much enjoy content on technical stuff, I consider your videos excellent. Nice stuff, well made

  • @vcp2077
    @vcp2077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, that makes so much sense. I was always perplexed as to why there are rods instead of normal suspension arms. Thanks!

  • @allenqueen
    @allenqueen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you study mechanical/automobile engineering Chain Bear? Your knowledge and way of explaining the mechanisms is unlike I've seen on f1 side of youtube

  • @slowbuttonon
    @slowbuttonon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This might be one of the best videos you've made and the bar already was so high... Quality and informative 👏

  • @robertallair7278
    @robertallair7278 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. To take something very complex, reduce it to the basic principles and clearly demonstrate how it works is not an easy thing to do. Bravo.

  • @bat__bat
    @bat__bat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:55 the best visual guide on the Torsion Bar on TH-cam 👍

  • @davton1999
    @davton1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your graphics are getting better with every video! Good job!

  • @claypunk7718
    @claypunk7718 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i finally understand! i was trying to find information on youtube about this recently, but this is the first video that explains it clearly

  • @vege-gaming
    @vege-gaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chain Bear's videos are always so informative

  • @jurihuhu2272
    @jurihuhu2272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an amazing system! Thanks for explanation, love your videos!

  • @charamia9402
    @charamia9402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a way of simplifying and visualising complex subjects into understandable and educational material. I am in no way able to set up suspensions on an F1 car (or my kids toy car for that matter), but I do grasp the principals of how suspensions work.

  • @zmotorsport2815
    @zmotorsport2815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally, thank you Chainbear, thisnwas really helpful for understanding the basics of suspension

  • @pvtvega
    @pvtvega 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a high quality and well explained video. Explaining technical concepts this way is not easy.

  • @saipanfro
    @saipanfro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Bear is back!!!! Glad to see a new video! Love how you break stuff down for us simple Midwest folk. Appreciate your hard work and keep it up!

  • @adityapandey1329
    @adityapandey1329 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Really awesome video. I'm a fresh engineering graduate with a degree in Mechanical engineering, but i remember never being able to understand suspension mechanics. You did it for me in just a simple 10 min video🙌 Really awesome work mate🔥

  • @samroxonline
    @samroxonline 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    your animations are spot on.. does the job easy as it can get.. cheers !

  • @JK7kaye
    @JK7kaye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For so long I've had no idea what dampers do. Thank you.

  • @AtrolinK
    @AtrolinK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love when chainbear does chainbear stuff

  • @flyingbananatree5661
    @flyingbananatree5661 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video, I`ve been a watcher and lover of F1 for years but never really understood these fundamentals. Thank you.

  • @tpayne3047
    @tpayne3047 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation sir, you just helped me move forward in my Vehicle Dynamics mini-course!

  • @Sammie_Sorrelly
    @Sammie_Sorrelly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm delighted to see another video from you. Your work is one of my favourite things on this entire website.

  • @lucde_ville4743
    @lucde_ville4743 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, mr. Bear, for making it simple. Your vids are a chain of better understanding.

  • @Red_panda2001
    @Red_panda2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    and that's just the simple suspension of the f1 car
    so much effort put into it NICE

  • @sucher22
    @sucher22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for explaining automotive suspension systems for those of us who are in the 3rd grade, along with some very cute graphics to keep us from being bored. When I grow up perhaps you'll draw some colorful pictures of a piston and crank going up and down so I can understand that too.

    • @lytergy0
      @lytergy0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stop the bullshit

  • @Parker_Leach
    @Parker_Leach 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Animations in this video were so good!

  • @glenrobertson8006
    @glenrobertson8006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it when its chain bear day

  • @vordark304007
    @vordark304007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good explanation of what mean by push or pull rod.

  • @GuzziHeroV50
    @GuzziHeroV50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way the suspension works on the Deltawing is particularly ingenius!

  • @vmdenis3350
    @vmdenis3350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes that what we needed, thanks for the info!

  • @lukebourgeois1663
    @lukebourgeois1663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Last Time I was this early, Williams were fast

    • @blurryface2309
      @blurryface2309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully they’ll have some improvements this year then

    • @zaidkidwai7831
      @zaidkidwai7831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean Williams is fast compared to a Civic ... just not compared to the other F1 teams.

    • @rns.motorsports
      @rns.motorsports 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @First Name Last Name 2015?

    • @le-coup-détat
      @le-coup-détat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Williams and fast do not belong in the same sentence and probably won’t for quite a long time.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@le-coup-détat This year they will beat Haas. Bet.

  • @maxheinrich7609
    @maxheinrich7609 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video. Great visualization and amazing explanation!

  • @RaianF1
    @RaianF1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has always been an enigma for me. Thanks for the video Stu!

  • @kukeleku13
    @kukeleku13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video again! It's amazing how you explain such complicated stuff so well every single time.

  • @banoodel5121
    @banoodel5121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very well explained! I know my ways around springs and dampers and you explained it so simple for everybody to understand! Well done!!

  • @mattheww00d
    @mattheww00d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This great. I have always wonders what each but of the suspension actually does, thanks alot

  • @hobbyphile
    @hobbyphile 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally I got some explanation about the suspension system

    • @yellow_x522
      @yellow_x522 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unlike that useless video by Autosport.

  • @SomoneRamdom99
    @SomoneRamdom99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes this is excelent, I've been looking forward for a video like this for years

  • @arturobaixoclero6527
    @arturobaixoclero6527 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an interesting and fun channel. I've been binging your videos for weeks! It really gave an extra fire for my longtime passion about F1.

  • @kashishgoel5791
    @kashishgoel5791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    greaaat explanation.... welcome bacck!!

  • @mrmoloch4033
    @mrmoloch4033 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I would also love a part 3 where you explain how to implement the suspension setups for different track layouts.

  • @TheRealGirlWeeb
    @TheRealGirlWeeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you're an absolute legend!!
    your videos are very easy to understand and well made
    Keep up the good work!

  • @SandeepSingh-43
    @SandeepSingh-43 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Can you do a video where you show the ideal setup for a double wishbone suspension with actual numbers like caster, frame height, motion ratio, etc

  • @DaylightDigital
    @DaylightDigital 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for Part 2!

  • @rgarlinyc
    @rgarlinyc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought I knew so-o-o-o much about F1, then I discovered Smirnoff. I mean Chain Bear - thanks a lot, really expertly explained!

  • @onurozuvar6299
    @onurozuvar6299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanx! Such grafics must be used for students

  • @MrHellisforHeroes
    @MrHellisforHeroes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks ChainBear! Genuinely fascinating, and great presentation as usual too

  • @jaysuneakle
    @jaysuneakle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video! Thank you so much ChainBear!

  • @net5978
    @net5978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful! Nice. Thank you Chain Bear!

  • @Ethan-Entah
    @Ethan-Entah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:53 & with this F1 feels back again

  • @MO-rl9gl
    @MO-rl9gl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is just soo quality

  • @utetopia1620
    @utetopia1620 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad this turned up on my recommendations. With the new 2022 regs, and talk of McLaren going pull-rod for the front, i started to wonder what the difference between pull-rod and push-rod were, and also, what they were.

  • @JohnComeOnMan
    @JohnComeOnMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    "Will allow a limited flow of fuel"?
    (4:27)

    • @oliverjohnsonuk
      @oliverjohnsonuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nice spot

    • @MultiBenjiiii
      @MultiBenjiiii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I think he meant Fluid but but messed up on recording, the video is still understandable imo

    • @oliverjohnsonuk
      @oliverjohnsonuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MultiBenjiiii yep

    • @JG-ib7xk
      @JG-ib7xk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oliverjohnsonuk nice spot? Calm down mate, this isn't an inquisition, its a youtuber making an accidental mistake

    • @oliverjohnsonuk
      @oliverjohnsonuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@JG-ib7xk yep I know mate, just interesting that someone else caught it too! No issue with it

  • @scottleamy3224
    @scottleamy3224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    F1 suspension has always confused me until now thanks so much

  • @TheKarstrasse
    @TheKarstrasse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much. I used to think that the wishbones were the suspension components

  • @mrdiddleshot
    @mrdiddleshot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was quite informative, thanks

  • @kazibouzot
    @kazibouzot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The torsion bar is such a clever design

  • @nicolasisdabest
    @nicolasisdabest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I’ve never clicked on anything so fast

    • @GAMEROYALE-eg5xq
      @GAMEROYALE-eg5xq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, have been waiting for this for 2 years no joke

  • @chankokkeong802
    @chankokkeong802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, learning physics and watchimg F1 at same time.

  • @ToxicSaint006
    @ToxicSaint006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, these videos are just amazing.

  • @DamonMcLean1
    @DamonMcLean1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hands down this will be my most favorite series you've done! Fantastic editing as always :)

  • @charamia9402
    @charamia9402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Revisiting this during launch weeks -22, I've been hearing a lot of 'push rod' and 'pull rod' - and now I temme what it is 😅

  • @Twisted_RC
    @Twisted_RC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video as always!

  • @fukani7376
    @fukani7376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    a great video. always wondered how these sticks on the tyres work.

  • @5alm0n
    @5alm0n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this video, I thought they still used inboard springs. Looking forward to the next video

  • @Guust_Flater
    @Guust_Flater 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 13" tires are a huge component to the suspension. A lot of the suspension is done by compressing the tires. Also the reason the teams ha e to make completely new suspensions for the '22 F1 car, as they are fitted with 18" wheels. The side heights of the tires is much smaller and can contribute less to the suspension. The new suspension itself, has to do a lot more, next year.

  • @NicholasReguin
    @NicholasReguin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to watch this after seeing the new Mclaren which is running pullrods up front and push rods in back

  • @eightful
    @eightful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    he’s back!!!

  • @KensleyInnocent
    @KensleyInnocent 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brooooo!!!!! 🤯 🤯 Nah, I can't. This is too much, you're awesome!!

  • @HuseyinKirisoglu
    @HuseyinKirisoglu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best teacher ever.

  • @Khan-ts2ji
    @Khan-ts2ji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Future video suggestion: how does an F1 car steer

    • @theoashley-hacker2295
      @theoashley-hacker2295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So basically there's this thing called a steering wheel...

  • @martinflores1743
    @martinflores1743 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad youre feeling better!

  • @bienemaja7693
    @bienemaja7693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these chain bear tires

  • @BlueOceanApps
    @BlueOceanApps 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing vid, simple explanations! Love your content!!

  • @claudenirmf
    @claudenirmf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are beautiful. It's always a pleasure to watch them =)