I have a feeling if you did some coverage on the hyped up JDM vehicles that are starting to become more available in USA in your channel would explode with new viewers. RX7, Supra, Skyline, Evo, Silvia, etc. Do you feel that they are too far outside of your niche?
This is literal gold. Thank you for the analysis. Looking at the 2015-2016 S coupe market. $37-41k seems incredibly reasonable considering the avg mileage is ~35-40k. Same model years with 60-70k miles are going for $36-38k currently. Nationwide search (autotrader, cargurus, trucar)
I am the original owner of the rare 2015 rear wheel drive R model. 24k miles, garage kept, never tracked or abused, fully loaded with every option. Lately the value seems to be going up. I thought about selling, but every time I start it and the exhaust reverberates in my garage I just smile and take it out for a drive…. It’s one of a kind in my opinion.
Same model for me, I bought it 2018 at 42% of the original price and it’s stable ever since. Love it and will not sell it. It’s not supposed to be a financial investment however I’m sure that the R RWD Coupe will increase in price in years to come
My 2015 R just crossed 40,000 miles. So far, very problem free. Love it on the highway. Garage kept. This is a long term keeper. And I love that it’s RWD
Really great statistical analysis. I love graphs and are you able to share the 3D plot ? In 2019, I purchased a 2016 F Type R, so it was 3 years old at the time and I paid around 50% what the cost of that spec - new would have been. I estimate in the 3 years I"ve had it, it depreciated by a further 11.5% overall (not year on year). In what context though are you making these videos. Are you conisdering these cars as daily drives in which case depreciation is a factor as this assumes it has practical value ? What if these cars are bought merely as "toys" - no real use ie. you're not gonna drive it to work everyday. In that case, technically, your depreciation can be regarded as infinite as it really is a toy. I know that the 911 is one of the lowest depreciating sports cars and Ferrari actually appreciates. But POrshce is common and Ferrari costs 7x what the others do. A 1989 Ferrari Testarossa actually appreciates in line with inflation. That would make a good video, why do Ferraris appreciate ?
How about the manual transmissions? I’m guessing those will hold their value very well as they are uncommon, perhaps a car you could own and sell for a profit?
@@rogerdodger8415 Definitely something to look out for. I think I recall Savage Geese's channel covered that if anyone is looking for more information. Knowing it made me focus on west coast cars. My F Type showed no rust but I think the parts that TATA did not coat correctly are generally easy to disassemble and properly protect as long as rust has not already compromised them. I don't recall it being "a lot" of uncoated steel but I could be wrong as it is not an issue on my Jag.
Hello . I am looking at a 2018 f type r with a hard to find color ultra blue metallic. 21k miles. The car is full loaded with carbon ceramic brakes (121k msrp) and its certified cpo for 7 years and I can get it for 78k. You think thats a ok price considering the above
Buy a 2016 -2017 v8 R for 58K with 30k ish miles drive it for 3 years at 5-6k miles per year. Do this and you will lose maybe 5k over those 3 years 15k miles
I bought an F type premium for 37000K with 27000 miles on it. has no issues. runs great, it comes with all the features. paint has very minor cosmetic damage but 100% the fun. got an extended warranty up to 100k miles with a third party warranty including oil changes. now I just enjoy it. If you are trying to get one dont pay more than 47k for a v6 premium and get a warranty asap. if you buy it as is.
Great analysis and one which I found useful. I finally bought a MY21 with £18000 worth of options at 20% below original price and only 1000 miles. The car you conclude to buy is correct but I wanted a newer car that was still in warranty, didn’t need new tires and came with options I wouldn’t be able afford new. Good work though!
I didn't analyse the UK market so i can't comment on that. However, in general, the used car market has been extremely strong. As you saw in the video, the values in the US are also almost completely flat for the older cars. So i wouldn't be surprised to see a small increase in the UK.
Year & a half of ownership of my 2017 400 Sport - not one issue (even minor) or cost, apart from rear tyres! Plus not depreciating significantly & in the longer term, probably appreciating...makes it a car you buy with both head & heart. A rare combination, that. ...but yeah only the heart was involved in my case! 😁
Have you done an analysis considering change in MSRP? For example google says 2020 F Type R MSRP = 103,325 and 2019 F Type R MSRP = 100,750. So approximately $3k worth of the curve is only attributable to a change in MSRP and not depreciation itself. So a 17% decrease may be reduced by approximately 3% here. I'd like to see your price depreciation curve as a delta from original MSRP. So to see that a 2016 is current average price of 50,000 vs 75,000 MSRP would show a -25,000 value. This should be proportional to price but give a better picture of what the car lost over time vs other extraneous factors (especially considering today's volatile market).
Great vid, please make a E-type analysis, focused on the series 1,2 and 3 and coupe vs cabriolet vs 2+2! :) that would be a hard and very useful analysis.
im sorry,guys,but jaguar Ftype as masterpiece in sounds and Style,why people habitually radically choose the Maserati in sound and stylish looks as weird...in my opinion
I bought a Mercedes C200 in 2015 that was first registered in 2012 with only 25,000 miles on the clock.I only paid £13,500 for it.If you dont call that depreciation,i dont know what you call it.I was never that impressed with it even for that money.Dashboard started making noises,build quality was a bit off,mechanically no more reliable than the Peugeots i had before.
Thanks for the interesting report abt price depreciation. You specified all in US$, is this particular for the US market, I'm interested what it means for the Dutch market and in €
I have a 2019 V6 R-Dynamic with around 3000 miles. For me, it is a great car and the value for the "fun" is well worth any depreciation! Living here in Germany where the 911s are made, my car stands out when I am going down the street, and they don't! Plus, the sound of the V6 with the bangs and pops is the best part that puts a smile on my face... even when I'm not going fast! Thanks for the video!
Great analysis; however, a key part of your entering argument needs to be transaction price versus MSRP. As a consumer, I think that approach is more meaningful.
F-Types with low miles are already breaking into the $100Ks, with the top end F-Type, the P7, pushing $300K, making them not only low depreciation, but profitable to buy.
@@fourwheeltrader While obvious few one want an electric car in their current incarnation, why do you attribute skyrocketing F-Type values to anything but being a sports car (hint: there are no other sports cars being made) that is very low in supply. Have you ever heard of supply and demand setting prices? Understanding the cars you analyze, to the same extent or better than the actual buyers and sellers, is the first step in a solid market analysis. That means you need to understand every difference from MY to MY and how an actual owner values each one. You have to understand the history of the product, and why each and every major design decision was made. Jaguar was very careful to produce a purebred sports car, which is why they released all convertibles the first MY and the purebred P7 F-Type version before any coupes. Its a car for people who understand what a sports car is, and you clearly don't, which is why you've been so wrong in your analysis and predictions to date.
Skyrocketing values has nothing to do with the f-type being a sports car. As explained, it results from demand and supply which are currently driven by the same factors across the industry. Naturally, the predictions in the previous f-type video are not in line with reality. Car prices increased at a rate which we haven't seen since a long time (if ever). Under normal market conditions where cars are depreciating the predictions are quite decent. There is enough evidence of that on the channel.
@@fourwheeltrader There is no such thing as an abnormal market condition. Markets always ebb and flow. Many of us bought F-Types at a low point because we understood why others are willing to pay $300K for an iconic P7 version which is virtually identical to a standard V8 convertible, through convertible soft tops may not "technically" count as a sports car, since hard core sports car design requires no top. Jag obviously is catering to pure bred lovers, only, which is why they released the F in the phases required to establish it, unquestionably as a sports car (no top design) and a GT (no top followed by a hard top). You can't just barge into a party and start yapping and expect to understand the financial underpinnings of what the group values, and why they may bid an object up or down.
I don't think we will come to an agreement here, but that's fine. Statistically there are plenty of ways to define abnormality in a car market. Yet, common sense comes a long way; Cars like the ftype are normally depreciating assets while they are currently doing the opposite, they are appreciating. The definition of abnormality is 'deviating from what's normal'. So based on that i classify the current market as abnormal. Regarding ftype prices: Data shows that the older f-types were bottoming a while ago. This makes sense given the age of the car. Data also shows that prices increased during the last period, just as they did for all the other cars. Hence, given the timing of the increase, i think it's more likely that the driving forces are the same as for the other cars and are not the unique characteristics of the ftype.
Its more about the image of the brand that makes it depreciate than the reliability.If you look at the facts,German cars are usually half way down the lists for reliability and customer satisfaction as much as the Jaguars are.
It would be interesting if you went back to the data from an old video from 1-2 years ago and compared it to now to see how covid has effected car prices. I'm so sure it's made cars stop dropping in value
Most of my recent videos include a comparison to the prices one year ago. In tje beginning of the pandemic I also made this video about it: th-cam.com/video/Sg3TGTXrCxs/w-d-xo.html Indeed, many used cars didn't lose any value or went slightly up.
great data and analyzation, wish you would have prefaced with the context that the car had drastic changes between 2014-2017. more horsepower and eliminating common issues such as the supercharger coupler, differential pinion seal, and tacky buttons to name a few. Data without context or information is only that, data. Would be a more accurate representation to break it up into upgrade years. 2014-2016, 2017-2020, and so on. Regardless great video, just a bit misleading without the context of the difference in horsepower and reliability.
Thanks for your feedback. There is a data split available which allows to distinct between the facelifted and pre-facelifted models. For this video i chose not to include it. It is always difficult to find a good balance between the depth of information and the video length.
I would love to see you go over the price appreciation of used cars in general, and how that applies to the conclusions of this video. My wild guess is that the used prices have risen 6~12 K in the last year for a F type.
@@fourwheeltrader I was moreso teasing you regarding your pronunciation of the word three :p English can be difficult. When I was a kid I couldn't pronounce the letter R very well. Always came out more as a W sound. After some speech therapy, I was back on track.
No cars are good investments. None. Even the most valuable cars are no match for putting that same amount of money in an S&P 500 index fund. Buy cars because you want them.
@@odiseadamsjr1860 Yeah no, most people don't invest their money in index funds, I've had cars that have more than doubled in value in a few years, so, yeah, that's a good investment, as an alternative asset class, as a hedge against inflation. If you had bought a new F type project 7, you would get double of what u bought it for.
@@odiseadamsjr1860 Index funds are great, but you're not enjoying the money, your kin will, if you can drive a car, that's worth more than you paid for it, that's a win, especially when you take into uccountthe fact that most people don't even invest their money, many billionaires, and millionaires have squandered their entire fortunes by not investing, and in their pursuit of instant gratification
@@aymansgarage Yes some cars are just basic transportation and some are just to be enjoyed. I am looking at possibly buying an F Type myself. But it is a depreciating asset, not an investment.
I have also had cars that doubled in years but that is not typical for cars. If you are going to say you have had cars that double in years, then you need to compare that to the stocks that have grown the fastest. Someone that invested in Amazon early on can say “I’ve had stocks that went up 5000% in years.” I like fun cars and have had all kinds of sports cars. Nothing wrong with buying them but they aren’t investments.
I have a feeling this guy needs to revisit this video in todays market.. I know a couple guys who actually have come out in the positive after driving the car for a few years thanks to the low amount of new vehicles for sale.
*Which car would you like to see analysed next*?
Toyota 4Runner and Tacoma!
Toyota supra
F90 M5
Porsche panamera
Coming soon!
I have a feeling if you did some coverage on the hyped up JDM vehicles that are starting to become more available in USA in your channel would explode with new viewers. RX7, Supra, Skyline, Evo, Silvia, etc. Do you feel that they are too far outside of your niche?
no thanks
This is literal gold. Thank you for the analysis. Looking at the 2015-2016 S coupe market. $37-41k seems incredibly reasonable considering the avg mileage is ~35-40k. Same model years with 60-70k miles are going for $36-38k currently. Nationwide search (autotrader, cargurus, trucar)
Thanks 4WT, your hard work is much appreciated. (I asked for this analysis 2 weeks ago). You confirm my hunch about it bottoming.
Just bought a 2017 V6 with 20,000 miles for 42,000 and I love it!!
About to get one that has around the same amount of miles. Do you have snow where you live. If so do you plan on using it as a year rounded?
@@nacayzin5192 I own a large landscaping company. I have 11 trucks. This thing is strictly a toy. It will sit in my garage all winter.
I am the original owner of the rare 2015 rear wheel drive R model. 24k miles, garage kept, never tracked or abused, fully loaded with every option. Lately the value seems to be going up. I thought about selling, but every time I start it and the exhaust reverberates in my garage I just smile and take it out for a drive…. It’s one of a kind in my opinion.
I too have the same car with only 6000 miles...absolutely love the car!!! enjoy
Same model for me, I bought it 2018 at 42% of the original price and it’s stable ever since. Love it and will not sell it. It’s not supposed to be a financial investment however I’m sure that the R RWD Coupe will increase in price in years to come
My 2015 R just crossed 40,000 miles. So far, very problem free. Love it on the highway. Garage kept. This is a long term keeper. And I love that it’s RWD
As always, great video. Great predictions too. 👍👊
Thanks!
They are cheap to buy for a reason.
Really great statistical analysis. I love graphs and are you able to share the 3D plot ? In 2019, I purchased a 2016 F Type R, so it was 3 years old at the time and I paid around 50% what the cost of that spec - new would have been. I estimate in the 3 years I"ve had it, it depreciated by a further 11.5% overall (not year on year). In what context though are you making these videos. Are you conisdering these cars as daily drives in which case depreciation is a factor as this assumes it has practical value ? What if these cars are bought merely as "toys" - no real use ie. you're not gonna drive it to work everyday. In that case, technically, your depreciation can be regarded as infinite as it really is a toy. I know that the 911 is one of the lowest depreciating sports cars and Ferrari actually appreciates. But POrshce is common and Ferrari costs 7x what the others do. A 1989 Ferrari Testarossa actually appreciates in line with inflation. That would make a good video, why do Ferraris appreciate ?
I'm surprised you videos aren't getting the expected views as it should
The youtube algorithm is sometimes still a bit foreign to me.
How about the manual transmissions? I’m guessing those will hold their value very well as they are uncommon, perhaps a car you could own and sell for a profit?
Thanks for justifying my insane decision I made a month ago when I bought a 2015 F Type R 😁 I feel better now
I understand that when TATA acquired Jaguar that they used a lot of uncoated steel parts on the rear suspension. Have you had any issues with rust?
@@rogerdodger8415 Definitely something to look out for. I think I recall Savage Geese's channel covered that if anyone is looking for more information. Knowing it made me focus on west coast cars. My F Type showed no rust but I think the parts that TATA did not coat correctly are generally easy to disassemble and properly protect as long as rust has not already compromised them. I don't recall it being "a lot" of uncoated steel but I could be wrong as it is not an issue on my Jag.
Hello . I am looking at a 2018 f type r with a hard to find color ultra blue metallic. 21k miles. The car is full loaded with carbon ceramic brakes (121k msrp) and its certified cpo for 7 years and I can get it for 78k. You think thats a ok price considering the above
Buy a 2016 -2017 v8 R for 58K with 30k ish miles drive it for 3 years at 5-6k miles per year. Do this and you will lose maybe 5k over those 3 years 15k miles
Love everything except that deep bass swoop sound. I always end up muting all your videos.
Doesn’t matter if you keep the car. I’m keeping mine. Good job and research !
Exactly
I bought an F type premium for 37000K with 27000 miles on it. has no issues. runs great, it comes with all the features. paint has very minor cosmetic damage but 100% the fun. got an extended warranty up to 100k miles with a third party warranty including oil changes. now I just enjoy it. If you are trying to get one dont pay more than 47k for a v6 premium and get a warranty asap. if you buy it as is.
Great analysis and one which I found useful. I finally bought a MY21 with £18000 worth of options at 20% below original price and only 1000 miles. The car you conclude to buy is correct but I wanted a newer car that was still in warranty, didn’t need new tires and came with options I wouldn’t be able afford new.
Good work though!
Wanna see a curve? Look at the Cadillac XLR...
Math & cars. Amazing. Thank you.
Amazing video and great visuals. Thank you. I would love to see a similar comparison for the Porsche Cayman 718! Cheers from Germany.
Have a look at the latest cayman market update. You can find it in the Porsche playlist. It is for the US market though.
Very excellent video, thanks mate
Very interested in this video, F-Types in the UK seem to have gone UP in value this last year?!
I didn't analyse the UK market so i can't comment on that. However, in general, the used car market has been extremely strong. As you saw in the video, the values in the US are also almost completely flat for the older cars. So i wouldn't be surprised to see a small increase in the UK.
What an interesting channel and concept. I am looking into these cars and I really enjoyed this video.
Thanks. Over here you can find the latest F-type video: th-cam.com/video/I-2-PhteIuw/w-d-xo.html
nice, thank you!
Car you buy with your heart hey
Year & a half of ownership of my 2017 400 Sport - not one issue (even minor) or cost, apart from rear tyres! Plus not depreciating significantly & in the longer term, probably appreciating...makes it a car you buy with both head & heart. A rare combination, that.
...but yeah only the heart was involved in my case! 😁
Have you done an analysis considering change in MSRP? For example google says 2020 F Type R MSRP = 103,325 and 2019 F Type R MSRP = 100,750. So approximately $3k worth of the curve is only attributable to a change in MSRP and not depreciation itself. So a 17% decrease may be reduced by approximately 3% here.
I'd like to see your price depreciation curve as a delta from original MSRP. So to see that a 2016 is current average price of 50,000 vs 75,000 MSRP would show a -25,000 value. This should be proportional to price but give a better picture of what the car lost over time vs other extraneous factors (especially considering today's volatile market).
Great vid, please make a E-type analysis, focused on the series 1,2 and 3 and coupe vs cabriolet vs 2+2! :) that would be a hard and very useful analysis.
im sorry,guys,but jaguar Ftype as masterpiece in sounds and Style,why people habitually radically choose the Maserati in sound and stylish looks as weird...in my opinion
Is the new F-Type 4 pot a good choice? Is it reliable?
I bought a Mercedes C200 in 2015 that was first registered in 2012 with only 25,000 miles on the clock.I only paid £13,500 for it.If you dont call that depreciation,i dont know what you call it.I was never that impressed with it even for that money.Dashboard started making noises,build quality was a bit off,mechanically no more reliable than the Peugeots i had before.
Mercedes Benz gla 250. Mine is five years old with only 45k on it. Should I keep it, or unload it before it drains my purse of every last dollar?
Thanks for the interesting report abt price depreciation. You specified all in US$, is this particular for the US market, I'm interested what it means for the Dutch market and in €
I have a 2019 V6 R-Dynamic with around 3000 miles. For me, it is a great car and the value for the "fun" is well worth any depreciation! Living here in Germany where the 911s are made, my car stands out when I am going down the street, and they don't! Plus, the sound of the V6 with the bangs and pops is the best part that puts a smile on my face... even when I'm not going fast! Thanks for the video!
Great analysis; however, a key part of your entering argument needs to be transaction price versus MSRP. As a consumer, I think that approach is more meaningful.
F-Types with low miles are already breaking into the $100Ks, with the top end F-Type, the P7, pushing $300K, making them not only low depreciation, but profitable to buy.
This is the latest f-type market update from a few weeks ago: th-cam.com/video/iwtabCzENLs/w-d-xo.html
@@fourwheeltrader
While obvious few one want an electric car in their current incarnation, why do you attribute skyrocketing F-Type values to anything but being a sports car (hint: there are no other sports cars being made) that is very low in supply. Have you ever heard of supply and demand setting prices?
Understanding the cars you analyze, to the same extent or better than the actual buyers and sellers, is the first step in a solid market analysis. That means you need to understand every difference from MY to MY and how an actual owner values each one. You have to understand the history of the product, and why each and every major design decision was made. Jaguar was very careful to produce a purebred sports car, which is why they released all convertibles the first MY and the purebred P7 F-Type version before any coupes. Its a car for people who understand what a sports car is, and you clearly don't, which is why you've been so wrong in your analysis and predictions to date.
Skyrocketing values has nothing to do with the f-type being a sports car. As explained, it results from demand and supply which are currently driven by the same factors across the industry. Naturally, the predictions in the previous f-type video are not in line with reality. Car prices increased at a rate which we haven't seen since a long time (if ever). Under normal market conditions where cars are depreciating the predictions are quite decent. There is enough evidence of that on the channel.
@@fourwheeltrader
There is no such thing as an abnormal market condition. Markets always ebb and flow. Many of us bought F-Types at a low point because we understood why others are willing to pay $300K for an iconic P7 version which is virtually identical to a standard V8 convertible, through convertible soft tops may not "technically" count as a sports car, since hard core sports car design requires no top. Jag obviously is catering to pure bred lovers, only, which is why they released the F in the phases required to establish it, unquestionably as a sports car (no top design) and a GT (no top followed by a hard top). You can't just barge into a party and start yapping and expect to understand the financial underpinnings of what the group values, and why they may bid an object up or down.
I don't think we will come to an agreement here, but that's fine. Statistically there are plenty of ways to define abnormality in a car market. Yet, common sense comes a long way; Cars like the ftype are normally depreciating assets while they are currently doing the opposite, they are appreciating. The definition of abnormality is 'deviating from what's normal'. So based on that i classify the current market as abnormal. Regarding ftype prices: Data shows that the older f-types were bottoming a while ago. This makes sense given the age of the car. Data also shows that prices increased during the last period, just as they did for all the other cars. Hence, given the timing of the increase, i think it's more likely that the driving forces are the same as for the other cars and are not the unique characteristics of the ftype.
Brilliant vids, and due in part to this vid a 2017 F Type R will be delivered to me in the next couple of days.
C5 Z06
Its more about the image of the brand that makes it depreciate than the reliability.If you look at the facts,German cars are usually half way down the lists for reliability and customer satisfaction as much as the Jaguars are.
My guess was off by one week. Thanks again for a great video.
What's your guess for next week?
@@fourwheeltrader I’d say the 986 Boxster to round out the model.
As always another great video. Thanks. I would be interested in a review of the Mark 2 (2017-) Audi A5 coupe.
I got a 2016 R with 22k miles for 50.5 K. Love my vehicle
Excellent, thanks. 2017 F-Type S
Wish they'd depreciate more, still lots of money outside of USA
Great video
A great job... as always !!!!! I appreciate your work here
Love your analysis, make one for the Jaguar XJ!
It would be interesting if you went back to the data from an old video from 1-2 years ago and compared it to now to see how covid has effected car prices. I'm so sure it's made cars stop dropping in value
Most of my recent videos include a comparison to the prices one year ago. In tje beginning of the pandemic I also made this video about it: th-cam.com/video/Sg3TGTXrCxs/w-d-xo.html
Indeed, many used cars didn't lose any value or went slightly up.
Thank you for this video. Great content!
great data and analyzation, wish you would have prefaced with the context that the car had drastic changes between 2014-2017. more horsepower and eliminating common issues such as the supercharger coupler, differential pinion seal, and tacky buttons to name a few. Data without context or information is only that, data. Would be a more accurate representation to break it up into upgrade years. 2014-2016, 2017-2020, and so on.
Regardless great video, just a bit misleading without the context of the difference in horsepower and reliability.
Thanks for your feedback. There is a data split available which allows to distinct between the facelifted and pre-facelifted models. For this video i chose not to include it. It is always difficult to find a good balance between the depth of information and the video length.
2015 F-Type Rs are in the 60s.
Is the new F-Type 4 pot a good choice? Is it reliable?
Aside from a few minor things non power train related these cars are proving to be very reliable.
@@cryptoowlswisetoken1565 Okay Thank You! Just saw in British Racing Green it's absolutely stunning!
Thanks , this was very helpful!
I would love to see you go over the price appreciation of used cars in general, and how that applies to the conclusions of this video. My wild guess is that the used prices have risen 6~12 K in the last year for a F type.
This is perhaps what you're looking for: th-cam.com/video/iwtabCzENLs/w-d-xo.html
Would it be possible to do an F type comparison for the UK market? Love your videos!
Planning to branch out to other markets, just need to find the time to make the videos :)
Great video, great resource in my research on buying an F-Type.
Thanks, over here you can find the market update: th-cam.com/video/iwtabCzENLs/w-d-xo.html
What are your thoughts between the F-Type and the XKR....? Which do you envisage will experience the best movement in 3,5,10 years
I should make a seperate video on the XKR.
It would be very interesting to see your analysis.
BMW F90 M5 please!!
Hello from the Netherlands. Great video!
Thanks!
3:30 Where are the tree graphs!?
The three graphs are on the screen; v8, v6 and 4-cylinder.
@@fourwheeltrader I was moreso teasing you regarding your pronunciation of the word three :p
English can be difficult. When I was a kid I couldn't pronounce the letter R very well. Always came out more as a W sound. After some speech therapy, I was back on track.
@@kyleaegis5613 Yes I'm aware ;)
Great video! Great production!
Is there a way to post on the web your leaderboard of depreciations?
I'm working a way for everyone to access the data.
No update ?
1:46 unbeschreiblich
The 2015 R is a great investment (RWD)
No cars are good investments. None. Even the most valuable cars are no match for putting that same amount of money in an S&P 500 index fund. Buy cars because you want them.
@@odiseadamsjr1860 Yeah no, most people don't invest their money in index funds, I've had cars that have more than doubled in value in a few years, so, yeah, that's a good investment, as an alternative asset class, as a hedge against inflation. If you had bought a new F type project 7, you would get double of what u bought it for.
@@odiseadamsjr1860 Index funds are great, but you're not enjoying the money, your kin will, if you can drive a car, that's worth more than you paid for it, that's a win, especially when you take into uccountthe fact that most people don't even invest their money, many billionaires, and millionaires have squandered their entire fortunes by not investing, and in their pursuit of instant gratification
@@aymansgarage Yes some cars are just basic transportation and some are just to be enjoyed. I am looking at possibly buying an F Type myself. But it is a depreciating asset, not an investment.
I have also had cars that doubled in years but that is not typical for cars. If you are going to say you have had cars that double in years, then you need to compare that to the stocks that have grown the fastest. Someone that invested in Amazon early on can say “I’ve had stocks that went up 5000% in years.” I like fun cars and have had all kinds of sports cars. Nothing wrong with buying them but they aren’t investments.
I have a feeling this guy needs to revisit this video in todays market.. I know a couple guys who actually have come out in the positive after driving the car for a few years thanks to the low amount of new vehicles for sale.
True, this video is outdated. Here is the latest market update:th-cam.com/video/iwtabCzENLs/w-d-xo.html
Good info, I am in the market for one of these cars.