Massive respect for all three gentlemen. Hearing them speak, you realize how truly great the United States was. Intellectually rigorous and honest, practical, and very human. Not the lilliputian neo-con ideologues that control our fates today.
Thanks to Prof. Vogel for making part of the Western world get a better understanding of China and its arguably most important political leader in the last quarter of the 20th century. My you rest in peace.
Throughout China's long history, brilliant thinkers, scholars and top leaders have repeatedly emerged. During their term as leader or influential persons, China would move forward. Deng was one such persons that emerged and his legacy continues to this day. Even during Dynasty China and prior to dynasties, brilliant philosophers, thinkers and scholars have contributed to China. I expect China will continue to have brilliant contributors.
And Lee said there was no way that the Chinese leadership were going to allow the students to do what they did when they started insulting the CP leaders. his exact words in his book was "this was going to end in tears"
Refreshing to listen to some Americans who had direct contact with Deng. Americans are not given to sentimentaliy. These top representatives look after American interests and so to hear them give the accolades about Deng is much appreciated.
I remember a conversation that was widely circulated when Margaret Thatcher raised the issue on detention of dissidents with Deng when she visited China to which Deng replied: "OK. How many Chinese dissidents would you let into Britain? 1 million? 2 million?"
The present low point in US-China relationship will improve again. USA played an important role in the opening of China to the world. Mao, Deng, Jiang, Hu and Xi have all met with the US Presidents. There have been massive US investments in China and vice versa. I am optimistic that the future will be brighter as underlying the interaction between US and China is the shared belief in a better world. Today's frictions will be resolved. All it needs is wise leadership on both sides.
No, ....Deng Xiaoping was very Chinese. Obviously the General, who yapped a few minutes into this does not know Mandarin or much Chinese culture. I am American and I was in China 12 years and found Chinese to be very genuine. On the other hand I saw a few con-artist Americans get deported for stealing and was happy about that. I met with Chinese in all kinds of settings. This General is more informative as he goes along. The 3rd speaker is very good and the author is also good.
It's fairly ignorant to try an generalize a population of 1.6 billion as "genuine," or a population of 300 million as in-genuine, just based on your own limited experiences/interactions. There are genuine and not genuine people anywhere. Many from my Chinese side of the family, who are from the mainland, find Americans to be more genuine from their experience.
Many Chinese attended this excellent forum and I guess some were also there on behalf of the Chinese government. There was obviously a keen interest in how Deng would be portrayed to the West. Deng came across as be very shrewd. Mao was akin to being a "god" in Communist China. And criticism of Mao has to be very deftly handled without being blatant. It also showed that no leader can be absolutely sure that opposing forces within the "empire" i.e. Communist China, will not arise to challenge the leader.
Massive respect for all three gentlemen. Hearing them speak, you realize how truly great the United States was. Intellectually rigorous and honest, practical, and very human. Not the lilliputian neo-con ideologues that control our fates today.
Thanks to Prof. Vogel for making part of the Western world get a better understanding of China and its arguably most important political leader in the last quarter of the 20th century. My you rest in peace.
Throughout China's long history, brilliant thinkers, scholars and top leaders have repeatedly emerged. During their term as leader or influential persons, China would move forward. Deng was one such persons that emerged and his legacy continues to this day. Even during Dynasty China and prior to dynasties, brilliant philosophers, thinkers and scholars have contributed to China. I expect China will continue to have brilliant contributors.
you are right ,i agree with you ,as a chinese man
Lee Kuan You of Singapore also had a great impression on Deng Xiaoping on modernization 👏🏼👏👏🏿
And Lee said there was no way that the Chinese leadership were going to allow the students to do what they did when they started insulting the CP leaders. his exact words in his book was "this was going to end in tears"
to the point that China has their own space station, that is absolutely a remarkable achievement
ECONOMICALLY AS I KNOW CHINESE ARE HARD WORKING PEOPLES AND GREAT INNOVATORS
3 contemporary great minds discussing world affairs
So many shiny heads
Thank you for sharing this wonderful talk with us.
CHINA LEADERS MAO ZEDANG,DENG XIAOPING,HU JINTAO AND XI XINPING REALLY WHO IS A GREAT LEADER IN COMPARISON TO EACH ONE OF THEM
mao is a disaster lucky they have Deng
Refreshing to listen to some Americans who had direct contact with Deng. Americans are not given to sentimentaliy. These top representatives look after American interests and so to hear them give the accolades about Deng is much appreciated.
I remember a conversation that was widely circulated when Margaret Thatcher raised the issue on detention of dissidents with Deng when she visited China to which Deng replied: "OK. How many Chinese dissidents would you let into Britain? 1 million? 2 million?"
The audio needs to be improved for sustaining interest despite the insightful information and analysis provided in the talk.
The present low point in US-China relationship will improve again. USA played an important role in the opening of China to the world. Mao, Deng, Jiang, Hu and Xi have all met with the US Presidents. There have been massive US investments in China and vice versa. I am optimistic that the future will be brighter as underlying the interaction between US and China is the shared belief in a better world. Today's frictions will be resolved. All it needs is wise leadership on both sides.
No, ....Deng Xiaoping was very Chinese. Obviously the General, who yapped a few minutes into this does not know Mandarin or much Chinese culture. I am American and I was in China 12 years and found Chinese to be very genuine. On the other hand I saw a few con-artist Americans get deported for stealing and was happy about that. I met with Chinese in all kinds of settings. This General is more informative as he goes along. The 3rd speaker is very good and the author is also good.
It's fairly ignorant to try an generalize a population of 1.6 billion as "genuine," or a population of 300 million as in-genuine, just based on your own limited experiences/interactions. There are genuine and not genuine people anywhere. Many from my Chinese side of the family, who are from the mainland, find Americans to be more genuine from their experience.
Many Chinese attended this excellent forum and I guess some were also there on behalf of the Chinese government. There was obviously a keen interest in how Deng would be portrayed to the West. Deng came across as be very shrewd. Mao was akin to being a "god" in Communist China. And criticism of Mao has to be very deftly handled without being blatant. It also showed that no leader can be absolutely sure that opposing forces within the "empire" i.e. Communist China, will not arise to challenge the leader.
The audience seemed agonized and sleepy.
IS CHINA A GREAT COUNTRY
Yes of course
Rupert Murdock ex-wife Deng related to Deng Xiaoping ?
2019
WHO MODERNISED CHINA FROM ALL THIS LEADERS TO CURRENT
Deng. Xiao ping √. And. Xi jin ping.✓ is maestro of the China super power now 💯🇨🇳
Unchinese, there he broke the glass.
There was a time when adversaries can give credit where it's due