She Was Scalped...and WORSE. Whites Get Even.

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  • @richiephillips1541
    @richiephillips1541 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    They would laugh themselves to tears if told that one day there would be such a thing as a "micro-aggression".

    • @dustbowlhammer7119
      @dustbowlhammer7119 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True, we now have it so easy compared to people back then, we have to "invent" conflict in order to feel relevant!

  • @c.w.johnsonjr6374
    @c.w.johnsonjr6374 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +185

    Movie critics are complainign that Kevin Costner's Horizon shows the American Indians attacking the settlers and the violence involved. They should watch your video to see just how violent and brutal it really was.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      there are always those who are offended by true history....even here, a few very comments I had to delete.

    • @Notoislam
      @Notoislam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@FacesoftheForgottenyes like the tv in the uk trying to make people think the like of Henry the 8th and so on were black. They can never change our history!

    • @scott7684
      @scott7684 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      scalping for crying out loud

    • @rt3box6tx74
      @rt3box6tx74 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Indian Depradations in Texas" by Wilbarger is a good source written early enough that some witnesses/survivors were still alive to give first hand accounts.

    • @patriciastaton6182
      @patriciastaton6182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Sad scalping

  • @debrafricano1486
    @debrafricano1486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    Such a horrible death, poor woman. Her grave looks so lonely.

    • @RalphSewell-ch1gi
      @RalphSewell-ch1gi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Well thanks for people like you they're not forgotten.Amen❤❤❤

    • @thetruthseeker5549
      @thetruthseeker5549 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There were MANY more, all across the west. Their ends were as bad or worse at the hands of savages. Most, the remains will never be found.

    • @AceTaxiaGaming
      @AceTaxiaGaming หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rip bozo

  • @chrisscoleri2341
    @chrisscoleri2341 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +166

    My 2x great grandmother, along with several other children was captured by Indians and held for several months. She was the only one who made it back alive. Being a pioneer family was no joke.

    • @JD-8-1971
      @JD-8-1971 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Same story with my 2x great grandmother but in Kentucky. My grandmother was native American. With all this going on now days about reparations. I joke about the white man stealing my land and the native Americans stealing my grandmother. So, give me all the land and everyone go stand in the ocean

    • @EzraCannon-xp9is
      @EzraCannon-xp9is 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@JD-8-1971 Fascinating family history you have..... and that joke is absolutely priceless!

  • @davidschlueter5694
    @davidschlueter5694 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

    My great great grandfather ( Wilhelm Grobe) was killed by Indians on April 4th 1862 in Albert, Texas. When his 2 sons found him he had 11 arrows in him. That left his wife 2 sons and 3 daughters alone. The raiding party killed a 16 year old girl the same day in another part of the county. There’s more to this story but not enough space.

    • @GoodMrDawes
      @GoodMrDawes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Wow

    • @Alonenotlonely000
      @Alonenotlonely000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😪

    • @conniemclaughlin3156
      @conniemclaughlin3156 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      settlers were trespassing. the land was bit free, it was owned by the native tribes.

    • @RollinsBrown
      @RollinsBrown 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@conniemclaughlin3156not according to the natives, btw

    • @elenipavlidou8130
      @elenipavlidou8130 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We need to ask why they did it?who first started and betrayed another,I don't justify if violence to another violence,but Caucasian invaded first and still until now,how many they killed

  • @H_H_____
    @H_H_____ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

    Thank you for telling Martha and her baby's story. So sad what they endured. Her children and husband and family and friends went through a lot of grief.

    • @karenpuedesdecirlosnumeros9882
      @karenpuedesdecirlosnumeros9882 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So sad 🙏

    • @dean4209
      @dean4209 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heard of commas?

    • @H_H_____
      @H_H_____ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dean4209 We don't have room for trolls.

    • @dean4209
      @dean4209 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@H_H_____how does that make me a troll?! Are you that… nevermind. Well anyway, it’s kinda hard to finish reading that. Use commas bud

  • @czechmate6916
    @czechmate6916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    Thank you Ron for remembering her and bringing her horrible experience to light. I can’t imagine the pain she went through and the grief of her family. 💐💐🙏🙏✝️✝️

  • @babettescheerer4411
    @babettescheerer4411 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    RIP Martha Sherman 😢, Thank you Ron for sharing her story ...

  • @johngurganus3348
    @johngurganus3348 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +258

    The commanches did attrocities against other tribes

    • @belleange590
      @belleange590 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Yes. Wars between tribes just like our world wars.

    • @leejones7439
      @leejones7439 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They also had diseases that killed each other, long before the Europeans landed in North America.

    • @cynergy4
      @cynergy4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Most tribes committed atrocities against each other. They were human after all

    • @scott7684
      @scott7684 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      coaches were the most ruthless mfers ever all savages feared them thats why the rangers were formed and ruthlessly did away with those mfers they ordered spaniards British us people ect

    • @theshadow5800
      @theshadow5800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Sounds like she was a settler occupier living on someone elsesyland by fiat of the USG. So, brutal as it may appear to white European culture, she perhaps got her comeuppance? Think Oct 7th Hamas taking vengeance on Israelis settling in occupied territory of the Palestinians.

  • @amyg8761
    @amyg8761 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    What a horrible way to die! I'm so thankful I was not around during those times. My great grandmother and her family traveled across the country in covered wagons and she lived long enough to fly across the country in an airplane. History is fascinating.

    • @Notoislam
      @Notoislam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Nobody can ever change the past which makes history very fascinating like you said. Shame the bbc in the uk don't see that and change white people like the likes of Henry the vlll and so on to be portrayed as being black. Sad times!

    • @bentoncushing8693
      @bentoncushing8693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That area of the Country still produces some of Americas best fighterrs...

  • @debrabrooks6138
    @debrabrooks6138 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    The name Sherman grabbed my attention as I am working on my extended family tree, she is my 10th cousin on my father's side. There is a newspaper article at the time of her death telling of the Indian attacks in The Texas Republican (Newspaper) Marshall, Texas • Sat, Dec 22, 1860 Page 2 I found in the clipping of the newspaper archives. The people knew she was pregnant from what was in the article. So very very sad, Thank you for telling her story!

  • @andreeniem8780
    @andreeniem8780 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    My husband always defended the Native Americans without question but recently he turned and asked me, 'did you know that sometimes when the Indian men captured a white woman and brought her home, the Indian women would maybe burn her nose off so the men wouldn't like her?'
    He was shocked.

    • @Joseph-k3f
      @Joseph-k3f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sound like your husband is a liberal. How to say, like the invasion? 60 million non documented military age men, maybe you need to divorce them.

    • @richardknodel2829
      @richardknodel2829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The term ‘noble savage’ could be a gross misnomer. Without Christ, in our fallen estate, our cruelty to one another appears indescribable!

    • @timothyjones1906
      @timothyjones1906 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      American Indians were not a peaceful people before the white man arrived!!!!! They did it to each other . Ever hear of blood feuds.

    • @Luvtallhorses
      @Luvtallhorses 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah, facts can be uncomfortable things; especially when we have been fed a false narrative about the noble savage.

    • @funkmonster
      @funkmonster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardknodel2829oh you mean like minister John Covington getting drunk and inciting white men to kill Indians at Sand Creek and butchering 300 women and children? That kind of Christianity?

  • @judyclark5736
    @judyclark5736 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +278

    It was such a horrible death for Martha. While my great -grandfather was in OK hunting buffalo, my great-grandmother saw an Indian peeking in their window. She offered a hog and other livestock. They had a number of children also at home. She was always upset that great-granfather left her alone to hunt. This was in Kansas.

    • @lorileighfischer4254
      @lorileighfischer4254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Wow, that is terrible & so sad.
      However, like you said, it worked both ways.
      The one that I think of that was really an atrocity was the Custer battles.
      Also, never forget, they were first nation, native Americans, we took everthing away from them.

    • @TerriMagoo
      @TerriMagoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      @@lorileighfischer4254
      Also
      Other tribes did the same thing - they all did it to each other

    • @lorileighfischer4254
      @lorileighfischer4254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@TerriMagoo absolutely I 👍

    • @ChristineMurray-c6k
      @ChristineMurray-c6k 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That was a sad and hard time especially if you were a woman. It was so lovely of you Ron to put a yellow rose on the grave. My Dad had loads of roses and all different colours and I especially liked the yellow. My Dafd knew sllthe names like Floribunda and so did my little boy at the time. My boyfriend and his brother used to be very amused at the names. It was lovely of you to put that Rose at the grave. I can't understand how anyone could be so cruel to do what they did to her.Love to you Ron it's great to hear the history they are great stories we'd probably never hear so much. Keep the stories going. LovevChrissie .xxxxx❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

    • @SweetBluebonnet
      @SweetBluebonnet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      @@lorileighfischer4254 If "we" took everything from them, their offspring wouldn't exist today. Yet their offspring are no more guilty of their crimes as "we" are guilty of the crimes committed in retaliation by our forefathers. Trying to place guilt and blame for what happened back then by referring to the pioneers as "we" is an injustice to everyone alive today that had nothing to do with it.

  • @Pellegrineanita
    @Pellegrineanita 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    So disgusting what they did to her... rip Martha & your baby.. such a lonely grave but she will be with her baby and her family now 🙏

    • @funkmonster
      @funkmonster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah you have to wonder what minister John Covington and crew did to the peaceful Indian woman and children at Sand Creek when he butchered them.

  • @mariebeveridge9324
    @mariebeveridge9324 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    This is so sad how she died it must have been terrifying beyond any words can say. May she RIP. 💔🙏🏻😢

  • @conemadam
    @conemadam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    Again, I admire your care in presenting history as two-sided. What a harrowing story. Thank you.

  • @jimsteele5807
    @jimsteele5807 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    thank you Ron for keeping their memories alive

  • @Quantrills.Raiders
    @Quantrills.Raiders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    the comanche were brutal, theres a reason why the apache sided with the spanish against them

    • @helmandtigers
      @helmandtigers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fighting back against Genocide

    • @ItisOKtobewhite
      @ItisOKtobewhite 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@helmandtigers Genocide ? Come on mannn it was a prank . 😂😂😂. Get over it.

    • @lordsixxx6113
      @lordsixxx6113 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The only victims were the Comanche. This family reaped what they sowed.

  • @valeriehughes2357
    @valeriehughes2357 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    My great-great grand mother and spouse emegrated to the USA in 1846 with 6 sons. They were giving 600 acres for each son, this eas in Texas. Aetter I have dated ,1847 asks for corn seed and money. They were hungry and they lived in a Soddy( house made from blocks of sod.) It states if hunger doesn't kill you the I ndians will. They both lived into their 80's and are buried in Waco Texas.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      yep, man those were some tough times, enduring pioneers - living on the edge death every day.

    • @funkmonster
      @funkmonster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have to wonder who gave them those 600 acres per son and were they theirs to give?

  • @14tfisher
    @14tfisher 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    I always said I was born in the wrong era, that I should of been a pioneer woman crossing the great prairie. I don't know though if I could of withstand all the tragedies these poor pioneers endured... Thank you for telling Martha's story, it's a sad one indeed, but I do believe pioneer's back then knew what they were facing when it came to unknown territory. Thank you again for sharing Martha's story, may she never be forgotten... As always be safe wherever your travels may lead you - Trish 💛🙂

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      thanks Trish. yes, agree, me too, I think I should have been born in the mid 1800's. but - not a storybook live, it was much harsher than portrayed in the movies....hard not fathom. in snap, you could be dead.

    • @ericvantassell6809
      @ericvantassell6809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Everybody always imagines themselves the hero/heroine rather than the poor sod who fell off their horse, hit their head on a rock and died because they were drunk and forgot to duck for the barn door they stupidly built too low because when the built the door they were also intoxicated and forgot to factor in that they were unusually tall and thus the "standard" height was inadequate.

    • @sevinstorey4365
      @sevinstorey4365 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also, alcohol wasn’t as readily available in those times. There were no corner liquor stores and a lot of the men were just honest hard workers who wanted a better life for their children and families. Usually good people can rise to the occasions in life that they have to. To me that is the definition of hero

    • @taelee73
      @taelee73 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I don’t think many of us understand what life would have been like, most of us wouldn’t have lasted long. People saying they wished they’d been around then would most likely feel very differently if it were true.

    • @14tfisher
      @14tfisher 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@taelee73 So true, but if we all were living back then, we wouldn't know what it was like living in the present today. It's like the old saying "lesser of two evils"

  • @aliciabrewer9444
    @aliciabrewer9444 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    Rest in peace Martha Sherman, such a horrible way to die.😢
    Glad you told her story Ron, she needs to be not forgotten...🌹
    They had very hard times back in those days, survival was brutal.....
    Stay safe out there Ron.🙂💟

    • @jjcrockett7738
      @jjcrockett7738 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Time will repeat it's gonna get hard out here once ww3 pop off hopefully cool heads prevail but it's seems unlikely

  • @zorabryce5493
    @zorabryce5493 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    RIP Martha, you were brave to the end. Thank you Ron, stay safe and keep well. Zora in Australia

  • @annabelleb.8096
    @annabelleb.8096 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    If I had been born in those days stories like this would have stopped me from moving to any frontier. I would have been willing to work hard but wouldn't want to risk the lives of my family.

    • @kls2020
      @kls2020 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mexico was giving free land and no taxes for 10 years to get settlers from America and elsewhere to come to the south west and settle the land . For people who had little to nothing it was a chance to carve out a life though I am sure many had no idea about hostile Indians at first . Camanche's were nomadic and followed the Buffalo herds for their existence so there would be periods with no attacks or Indian sightings lulling the settlers into a false sense of security and then out of the blue attacks on towns and settlers would start up again . Mexico had been paying the Camanche's not to attack Mexican settlements and towns.

  • @tennagrover6140
    @tennagrover6140 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I love it when you tell the Wild West stories in the state of Texas. We have so much history that most don’t know. Good story Ron

  • @denisesmith2745
    @denisesmith2745 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    No words, Ron… I’m too sickened to say anything. Horrible, cruel way to die for Martha. Thank you, Ron. I know you are as sickened as I❤❤❤❤

    • @funkmonster
      @funkmonster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now tell the story of minister John Covington who killed 300 peaceful Indian women and children.

  • @sallymawhinney5613
    @sallymawhinney5613 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I feel so sorry for the pioneers in those days, but these stories really interest me. Thanks Ron. 👍

  • @katbot2190
    @katbot2190 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Thank you for bringing us this story in history. I'm a Texan thru and thru and loved the yellow rose. Beautiful.

  • @rd5081
    @rd5081 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    You have done another good thing, Ron … keeping her memory alive … RIP Martha .

  • @MaryHouse-i7k
    @MaryHouse-i7k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    So sad Rip Martha Sherman 😢🙏. .. ty Ron for this story! ❤ Mary

  • @edgregory1
    @edgregory1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Reminds me of the John Wayne film " The Searchers."

    • @Pedro.dh10
      @Pedro.dh10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      just saw it...epic. I understand the John Wayne character even better, now. Great movie.

  • @bubhub64
    @bubhub64 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    There's a book I read a few years back called "That Dark and Bloody River" by Allen Eckert, which chronicles white westward expansion starting in the late 1700s from Wheeling West Virginia into the Ohio River Valley, and the conflicts between the whites and indians that took place as a result over the many decades since. There were both good whites and bad whites, and good indians and bad indians described in the book. Incidents of brutality committed by both peoples are chronicled in the book. What I liked about that book, is whatever incident that took place described in the book, the exact day of the week, and the hour it took place is mentioned. There were also footnote numbers printed for each incident, that you can match to a number in the index in the back of the book that would direct you to that exact place and spot where the incident took place in today's modern times. Your videos are very interesting, and thanks for remembering these forgotten lives.

  • @kenbarkdoll7252
    @kenbarkdoll7252 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Harsh, brutal times. Life was cheap. Thanks for the walk and story. Ron.

    • @RobKHere
      @RobKHere 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well, to be honest, its still cheap....unless they can make a quick buck off of you.

  • @ellennewth6305
    @ellennewth6305 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Such a horrible story! Terrible tragedies on both European and Native American sides! Thanks for sharing this with us, Ron.

    • @ericvantassell6809
      @ericvantassell6809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how do we really know "native american" rather than "the tribes that were there when you lot came"? The Aborigines have a much stronger claim to "native Australian"

  • @susanna3
    @susanna3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Oh Ron what a tragic story, a horrible death, RIP Martha 😢 I dont know how the family recovered from that awful day. Thank you for pointing out both sides of the fighting. Scary days. Thank you Ron ❤

  • @alisonm5270
    @alisonm5270 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Sad sad story, and poor martha didnt even die straight away so ive read, she died 3 days later after the attack happened 😢

  • @sonnyday6830
    @sonnyday6830 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I read she died 4 days after getting attacked

  • @RoseGrace100
    @RoseGrace100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    So many sad stories back then and am so glad you are telling them

  • @greg7337
    @greg7337 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You put a yellow rose of Texas on her grave. That's a class act. I really enjoy your channel. I'm a combat vet...police officer and military historian who lives in Gettysburg Pa. Your work is excellent n important. You should come to the east coast so many stories.

  • @WacoUIC1933
    @WacoUIC1933 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    My husband's great grandparents were pioneer cattle ranchers in Arizona in the late 1860s. Great grandfather had to go on a cattle drive to get the cattle to market. He left instructions with great grandmother with orders to not allow the Indians access to the water tank, as they were in the middle of a deadly drought. She looked her window and saw some Natives watering their horses at the cattle tank. Great grandmother offered them a couple of head of cattle to leave the water alone, but they refused. She was alone with 11 children in the house but she knew she had to stop the natives from using their water. It was simply a matter of survival. Tiny as she was, 4'10", she picked up a fence post and smashed it into the head of a Native's horse, killing it instantly. The Indians thought she was crazy and left, never coming back again. As cruel as it was, water was so precious that wars were actually fought over it.

    • @Tina37212
      @Tina37212 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      WOw, she is lucky they didn't retaliate.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      wow, what a story. if you are able, email me at facesforgottentoday@gmail.com. would love to visit her grave and tell that story. I live in Arizona for 8 months each year.

    • @LesterMoore
      @LesterMoore 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Water. Precious potable water. Battles and wars fought over it. Because with water, there can be life. Without it ... none.
      Sadly, with the ongoing population growth wars will continue to be fought over it.

    • @regwatson2017
      @regwatson2017 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Sounds like a tall tale to me embellished over generations. The Indians would have killed her immediately for doing that to one of their horses that were very valuable commodities.

    • @kellyshomemadekitchen
      @kellyshomemadekitchen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@regwatson2017
      Not if they thought she was crazy. Native Americans thought if they killed a mentally ill person, they wouldn’t be with The Great Spirit when they died.

  • @mariemedina257
    @mariemedina257 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wow i cannot imagine. So sad to be treated this way.. Thanks for sharing.😢

  • @lindaritter1343
    @lindaritter1343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Being I am from the UK I have always loved any thing about Native Americans. Thank you Ron I learn so much from your channel

  • @GTLakeMate
    @GTLakeMate 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thank you Ron for the historically accurate repotting. I truly enjoy your channel .

  • @MinnesotaBeekeeper
    @MinnesotaBeekeeper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    In 1862 The Sioux who where not native to Minnesota murdered 600-800 men women and children settlers.

    • @funkmonster
      @funkmonster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Minister John Covington and several white men killed 300 women and children at Sand Creek, so what is your point? Men are capable of evil things.

  • @catholiccrusader5328
    @catholiccrusader5328 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Thanks, Ron, for giving Martha a flower.

  • @nataliemoulding234
    @nataliemoulding234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    rest in peace Martha and thank you Ron for telling us her story 😢😢

  • @ericbarksdale4335
    @ericbarksdale4335 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    A story I have never heard! I was born and raised in Weatherford, and still live here. My best friend growing up was Kenny Sherman, and his parents still live across I-20 right where you are doing this story. Don’t know if they are descendants of Martha, but thought it curious that the live in the vicinity. Thank you Ron for this story.

  • @nancyvolke237
    @nancyvolke237 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    You are the best storyteller!!!
    Great video!!! Thanks for sharing with us 👍🏻

  • @jacquelineburrows8208
    @jacquelineburrows8208 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for covering history we are not taught in school. Love your channel and appreciate that you are respectful in telling the stories of our ancestors and those that were integral but forgotten.

  • @JackieGxDesigns
    @JackieGxDesigns 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    My great grandmother was a survivor of Wounded Knee. Her husband and child were killed that day. We are Mniconjou Lakota from the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe.

    • @naomisgram1
      @naomisgram1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😢

    • @alicefotfmod7094
      @alicefotfmod7094 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A'HO sister

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      you have a great legacy Jackie.
      I have been to Rosebud; Wounded Knee Cemetery several times, In the early 2000's. I brought Jasper Big Foot back to Chicago with me, with one of his sons. He was in his 90's. There was a family in Aurora that took care of him, this was soon before he died. I need to check Find a Grave, I wonder where he is buried.
      You might know of him, he is the descendant of Spotted Elk, the Chief massacred there.
      Anyway, I stayed with the Willard Crow Dog, and family there, we did a a good sweat. Spent. a lot of time out there trying to help some families. Years ago....

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I found him!!
      He is buried there -www.findagrave.com/memorial/206819791/jasper-spotted_elk
      I will do his story some day.
      Jasper blessed my chanupa (a polar bear pipe made for me by Miniconjou Darien Deerwealking Oneall, who was incarcerated at Walla Walla prison at the time).
      If you want , feel free to email me at: facesforgottentoday@gmail.com
      Unfortunately, it is near impossible for me to see most of the replies here in comments. I am curious if you have heard of my friend Jasper. He was a community leader.

    • @JackieGxDesigns
      @JackieGxDesigns 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@FacesoftheForgotten he may be my relative as my paternal great grandmother, Sophie was a sister to Spotted Elk and Touch the Clouds.

  • @momv2pa
    @momv2pa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    What a tragic story. There were atrocities on both sides-so very sad. This was very well told-quite respectful.

    • @seanautilis
      @seanautilis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      don't try that moral equivalence thing

    • @funkmonster
      @funkmonster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seanautilisminister John Covington brutally killed Indian women and children for no reason. How’s that moral equivalence for you?

  • @jond.2868
    @jond.2868 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sorrowful story. Always looking forward to hearing more of the stories you tell.

  • @derekstocker6661
    @derekstocker6661 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for this salute to dear Martha.
    Yes, very sad things happened in those days and seems so sad now but at the time it was almost expected and that is why these great explorers and pioneers had such a brave and hard life. Where would America be without them. RIP Martha.

  • @lauradarnall227
    @lauradarnall227 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I really love watching your videos on the forgotten people of our country that made there way to a new life for them

  • @arrow6778
    @arrow6778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you, Ron for telling Martha's horrendous story. People are usually only told one side of the story and are rarely told of the horrors done to the settlers. RIP to Martha and all the settlers slaughtered by the Indians.

  • @marcb.9492
    @marcb.9492 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for remembering her and leaving a flower for her

  • @ramonapetermann9585
    @ramonapetermann9585 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's a shame to desecrate a cemetery by building a highway nearby. Such a lot of noise, no chance of an eternal sleep there. And concerning there are no pictures of what the American people did to the Native people - watch the movie "Soldier Blue", based on the Sand-Creek-Massacre in 1864.

    • @arkvadik8578
      @arkvadik8578 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nahhh, mostly the Indians though...yhe European immigrants came by and large front a more civilized society whereas the Indians were still stone age hunter gatherers living by the law of the jungle among their bands...hard to admit but true...

  • @lauriesmith874
    @lauriesmith874 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just found your channel today and I have thoroughly enjoyed watching the episodes. I too like learning about history and regular people. Thank you so much.
    Laurie in northern Utah

  • @Skullswithdronesinside
    @Skullswithdronesinside 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Oh wow, I live in Weatherford, not too far from this cemetery and my mother’s grandmother was 100% Comanche Indian. I don’t know much about her life or my mother’s side at all, as I was raised by my dad (and the state of GA) and moved to Texas to live with my mom at 19.
    As a cemetery freak who had visited I thought every one within 100 miles of DFW and this looks familiar, I’ve never heard of this awful story. Im going to have to find it and visit Martha’s grave. Maybe leave crystal for her. I leave quartz clusters and Amethyst geodes at lonely gravesites because I have so many and I think I’ll bring one to her.
    You are a wonderful storyteller and so respectful. Regardless of gender, sexual orientation, culture, ethnicity, race, age, religion, etc. the human being is the cruelest animals on earth capable of horrific things beyond our comprehension. Any one of us could become an innocent victim of horrific circumstance or become brainwashed into becoming a killer if you think about it deep enough. Wow. Thank you for sharing this one. I love all of your videos, but this one hit home. ❤

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I agree with you that we humans are the worst.
      I am glad you will go there, I had hope to inspire at least one person to seek it out.

  • @ironseabeelost1140
    @ironseabeelost1140 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My thought was no flowers and then along came you. Nice touch sir. Thank you for that.

  • @pamelapati1219
    @pamelapati1219 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Seems the Indians there had no respect for women or unborn babies or children. Thank you Ron for keeping history alive.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      both side did it. and remember, it wasn't "all" Indians, and it wasn't "all" Whites. it was a sector of each.
      in many cases, it is just like the criminals and gangs of the late 19th century, the 1920's, and even today.

    • @anneiwanowski9653
      @anneiwanowski9653 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You are so right! How right is the saying"There are two sides to every story".​@@FacesoftheForgotten

    • @melissapinol7279
      @melissapinol7279 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One of my mother's anscestors was an "Indian fighter". He left them some "trophies" of various beadwork items, including several baby carriers. I always wondered what happened to the poor babies who had been in them!

    • @nomadmarauder-dw9re
      @nomadmarauder-dw9re 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@melissapinol7279did he have a tobacco pouch?

    • @sunriseboy4837
      @sunriseboy4837 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think that is why people have had such utter disgust at the alleged 'native Americans'.
      I've always struggled to respect them.

  • @auntissie
    @auntissie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Oh no!! I'm not able to watch tonight.. but I'll catch it tomorrow, I hope!!

  • @grumpyvet7670
    @grumpyvet7670 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don't know how else to contact you, but there's a story of a 16 year old girl ( Heather Rich) was murdered in 1996, in Waurika, Oklahoma. It's pretty sad. I think you would be interested in it.

  • @glenmusick-ev8zy
    @glenmusick-ev8zy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My 6th great grandfather was David Musick & his wife Annie was my 6th great grandmother. My lineage is from Ephraim. Look up the David Musick tragedy sometime. Great history video. Thanks for sharing

  • @monikameza4107
    @monikameza4107 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    R.i.P Martha Sherman, 😢😢😢my heart is breaking

  • @vade137
    @vade137 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    keep these stories alive...some people are retelling the Indian story as if they were peaceful victims.

    • @funkmonster
      @funkmonster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some of them were. Saying all Indians were mean and evil is like judging all soldiers by what one platoon did in Vietnam. Dont be dense.

  • @cortezsantiago7927
    @cortezsantiago7927 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Are we supposed to feel sorry for her? She was on their land 😂

    • @againsttheleftandright4065
      @againsttheleftandright4065 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @FacesoftheForgotten You should pin this comment. It is a stark reminder that the types of people capable of doing what was done to Martha Sherman still exist, or at the very least, the types of people who will watch her die and do nothing.

  • @belleange590
    @belleange590 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for that comment about what 'we' did to them. That isn't talked about and it was disgusting.

  • @veerahmbles
    @veerahmbles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like that you left a yellow rose for Martha, being in Texas. I am glad that you're still uploading, Ron!

  • @trudyatherton1743
    @trudyatherton1743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you Ron! Such a heartbreaking sad story! It really makes you think how much people had to endure back then ! Women would almost have to be like Annie Oakley and even then there would still be a chance your family could get killed ! It really is such a shame there was back and forth revenge killings ! I hope they all rest in peace ❤

  • @SueSheldon-m9n
    @SueSheldon-m9n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love the past so much you learn from it Take care ron❤❤❤❤

  • @melanienance4920
    @melanienance4920 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for sharing the stories that you do Ron. Always have the best stories. So very sad for Martha scary time to live in those days.

  • @GinaAnderson254
    @GinaAnderson254 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the stories.. Yeah..These stories really are sad... Very tragic.. May all the people who died rest in peace.

  • @fordfalcon1970
    @fordfalcon1970 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Hi Ron. Greetings from Australia.

  • @johnsonandsons4
    @johnsonandsons4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I live smack dab in the middle of Comancheria, and may stop by and leave a flower on her grave sometime. If you were a Homesteader here on the plains of North Texas during that time frame, you were literally putting you and your family's lives on the line every day. This area was extremely dangerous to live in.

  • @hatfieldmccoy0311
    @hatfieldmccoy0311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I am a mixed blood enrolled member of the Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma. It was a brutal time in history, and the Mormons actually did alot of killing dressed as native people to stir up even more violence. For alot of the Eastern tribes forced west, we were moved from our homes after fighting for over 200 years moved.west onto another people's homelands causing fighting between the Osage, Comanche, Kiowa, and the people from back east Cherokee, Delaware, Shawnee. It was not peaceful for the tribes that were sent west to Indian Territory. It wasn't uncommon for American Soldiers to cut off the breast of women and wear them as hats to chase to do horrible things to children and women so the Native people do so in turn hoping to scare away the people invading their lands. You had to be tough to survive

    • @lalah6157
      @lalah6157 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The killing, torturing and scalping was primarily done by Natives. Are you saying all the violence was white people dressed up, seriously? Several tribes were wiped out by other Natives long before a European set foot on the continent.

    • @arkvadik8578
      @arkvadik8578 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...tough is not the same as cruel...none...

  • @Mszahnclass95
    @Mszahnclass95 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!Ron for all the hard work an dedication to all the stories you share with all us

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you Angela!!

    • @Mszahnclass95
      @Mszahnclass95 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FacesoftheForgotten your welcome Ron

  • @Luvtallhorses
    @Luvtallhorses 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My husband has an ancestor who killed 2 Indians with an axe when their cabin was attacked. The Indians targeted and murdered some of the children and her”mother bear” came out. There was a newspaper article complete with an illustration captioned “Mrs Bozarth kills the Indian”. Their family is proud of this tough forbearer.

  • @talltexan6432
    @talltexan6432 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank the Lord that many of my ancestors helped to eradicate the Comanche from Texas. A memorial to my great, great, grandfather was erected by the State of Texas in my hometown. He was a notable Indian fighter and Texas Ranger.

  • @marilynbrown5274
    @marilynbrown5274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Poor innocent soul. Rest In Peace..and GOD'S Eternal Joy.

  • @peterredfern1174
    @peterredfern1174 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Morning Ron and everyone from ballarat in Oz,👋👋🙏🙏👍🇦🇺

  • @kls2020
    @kls2020 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you are interested in the History of Texas there is a book written in 1890 by JW Wilbarger titled" Indian Depredations in Texas " that describes what was going on back then and describes attacks on settlers between 1830 - 1873 from survivors first hand accounts as well as Texas Ranger and US troop accounts .
    Because it was written long ago there are many derogatory comments considered "Racist " today so if this will upset you don't read it . Another more recent book titled "Clan of the Summer moon " (authors name escapes me ) details a lot of the same attacks but instead goes into more graphic details of the tortures and injuries endured by the settlers until their death or in rare cases rescue .
    There were atrocities committed by both sides and things were done out of revenge and or sheer meanness .

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      already read it, ty. I have done other stories from his book, including his relative who was scalped alive and survived, - went to his grave in Austin 2 years ago.

  • @lizzierankin-fe9kj
    @lizzierankin-fe9kj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💔what a time.. poor Martha 😢RIP. Thank you for sharing this with us Ron ...be safe 🙏🙏. Thank you for giving Martha a beautiful rose 🌹.

  • @Dee-hc5to
    @Dee-hc5to 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    So glad for sundays😃

  • @MrMenefrego1
    @MrMenefrego1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Simultaneously fascinating and horrifying. I sure appreciate the way you tell their stories, with care and eloquence. I'm a new subscriber looking forward to watching your other creations. Greetings from The Kingdom of The Netherlands. ❤

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you found us, welcome to our gang!!

  • @isabellegarcia9205
    @isabellegarcia9205 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Poor souls, if I were the settlers, I would have kept put in my town, not travelled to native places.😮

  • @gaylewis5837
    @gaylewis5837 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So sad! I wonder why they let her husband and children go?

  • @heidemarieemmert2195
    @heidemarieemmert2195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the premier. It help me forget the horrible Thursday night. Death came knocking on my door, but I beat it. Just listening to you is so relaxing. You have a special way of speaking that really grabs my attention. You have a special gift. Thank yiu

  • @kenrhoades2602
    @kenrhoades2602 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you Ron.

  • @Skullswithdronesinside
    @Skullswithdronesinside 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oh the cemeteries I could show you around DfW. Bonnie and Clyde (two separate cemeteries) some in the middle of the woods, a segregated cemetery, some with headstones that say, “hanged from this tree and buried here. Horse thief. Name unknown.” Which is creepy cool. I’d love to hear more stories from this area.

  • @HeatherT-y7i
    @HeatherT-y7i 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you, such a sad story. God bless.

    • @HeatherT-y7i
      @HeatherT-y7i 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you. I was wondering if you ever heard of the Trompp family who served in WW11. They had migrated to America from Germany and fought for America in WW11. If you could fined out anything more about them. A head stone big head stone with the name of Trompp on it. My married name is Trompp. Thanking you.

  • @Jayzilla-jr4fr
    @Jayzilla-jr4fr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    They weren't called savages for nothing.

    • @funkmonster
      @funkmonster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Each band was different. The problem white peoples had was they couldn’t tell the difference. One Indian was the same as others, so they would slaughter a peaceful group of Indians to try to get the bad group of Indians. It would be like someone killing a family Smith in Kansas because they had the same name as the Smith family in Louisiana. Stupidity.

    • @funkmonster
      @funkmonster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And what was Minister John Chivington when he killed 300 Indian women and children at Sand Creek? Was he an angel?

  • @lostnaustin7390
    @lostnaustin7390 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have been to that cemetery. You were only a couple of miles away from Annetta Cemetery which has some really interesting tombstones

  • @gregw8976
    @gregw8976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes me really appreciate the extreme hardships and adversity that our pioneer ancestors went through. While I acknowledge that wrongs were done on all sides. mainstream media seldom, if ever speak about Indian violence towards the pioneers. I appreciate your balanced approach, and look forward to listening to more episodes.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should see the one we found deep in the woods. Also an old one just down the street from our farm. Love old cemeteries. Alabama

  • @KenDignam
    @KenDignam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice touch putting the flower there 🙏

  • @leomarkaable1
    @leomarkaable1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tribal wars are genocidal. In Minnesota in 1862 we had a war with the Sioux. My great grandfather fought them in areas around New Ulm Minnesota. He was in the Tenth Minnesota Regiment. He fought under US Grant, and eventually was wounded in the battle of Mobile Bay, the last battle of the war.

  • @Islandgirl-p7h
    @Islandgirl-p7h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Aloha Ron!! Watching from Maui Hawaii. I love your videos so very much 😊

  • @Wootangtw
    @Wootangtw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sad story… it had to be a very hard life back in the Pioneer Day’s…. Thanks buddy…

  • @Jkk55
    @Jkk55 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow what a gruesome end for poor Martha thank you for the story Ron 👏👏👏👏

  • @uthyrgreywick5702
    @uthyrgreywick5702 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the story, to me history never gets old. After a lifetime of study, I have concluded that Homo sapiens are savages, even today. As I understand it the Comanches before the horse were preyed upon by stronger tribes. After the horse the Comanches took their revenge on those tribes. Then came members of the Celtic and Germanic tribes who were just as brutal as they were. There are countless examples from every continent except Antarctica of savagery. Boudica's rebellion, the Teutoburg forest, WW II the firebombing of whole cities with the sole purpose of killing noncombatant citizens indiscriminately. Eighty years ago, the Generals were called "war heroes" now we know them as war criminals. The worst thing is that if law and order were to truly dissolve, we, civilized Americans, would revert so fast it would make our heads spin.