The Death of The Internet
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2024
- With Google rolling out new AI "overview" features from Gemini (that tell people to eat rocks, put glue in their food, and refer to some of the worlds deadliest mushrooms as the wrong "yummy" type...) The question has to be asked "is the internet dying"
When over 80% of search traffic funnels through one particular site (a site that used to be a beacon of information availability)... is a choice by that websites owner to compress everything down to the worst version of itself through machine learning the inflection point for the death of the Internet we once had.
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what time line is this and how do i get back to my own?......yes this is a serious question.
Ironic how you said the Tiktokkers are stupid because they made Nyquil Chicken, given how Nyquil Chicken was a *parody* that was taken as real and used as an example that TikTok was stupid and dangerous.
Gods help us if the AI ever gets a whif of my online sarcasm.
THATS A SPICEY MEATBALL
The internet has been dying for years. No more local ISPs, just massive corporate gatekeepers.
>no more local ISPs
There still are. They just resell internet service from a major provider, rent out IPTV boxes and house node computers for services like Netflix.
@@Code7Unltd They literally do not exist here.
The dead internet theory is no longer a consipracy. Ai search results, nonsense results, manipulated results based on certain topics...
They clearly want dead humans.
It's hilarious watching dead internet theory become prophecy in real time.
And watching NONE of the people responsible realize it's happening.
Im so tired of this endless AI craze and hype train. So tired of all these big companies shoving it down our throats.
Sadly this is only the beginning
yup same here. but sadly companies will just keep going and dumb or ignorant people will eat it up, they want to "keep up with technology".
@@You-ud2fp BTW, dune 1 and 2 were great!
I've always noticed how much people hate AI generated things and yet the media keeps hyping it up. Sus since second 1
@@philosopherkingzant2037when you pay the media, they say what you want them to say
We all thought it would be terminators... But Skynet is just trying to troll us to death I guess...
Lol
Why is that so damn true? I hate this shit!
I for one welcome our future A.I.diocracy Trolling Skynet Robot Overlords.
🤣
And making women obsolete it seems.
LLMs' purpose is to generate human-sounding text.
They don't even understand your question. The actual question they're answering is "statistically, which text would follow the prompt?"
So many people don't understand this. This is not AI, it's an advanced algorithm but it's just collating information already on the internet, it's not generating anything new.
Google used to have a motto "Don't be evil." Unfortunately, they pretty much failed that motto right out of the gate.
Its not their motto anymore
What they really meant was "Don't. Be Evil."
They ironically changed it right as they pivoted to "be as evil as possible"
I never saw the image myself, but I heard claims of an image floating around of the "don't be evil" plaque that hung in one executive room sitting in a garbage can during a cleanup. If true, it's poetic.
Yeah, was going to make the same comment but you beat me to it. They are 100% in on evil now.
I have hated google searching for YEARS because of how it became this robot that's always trying to interpret, judge, and "personalize" your searches.
I've had to resort to Yandex. Google does not present what you actually ask for. Just 2 pages of same-same irrelevant SEO trash.
Right!? It even says men can get pregnant and have periods? Like wtf mofo? It’s more broke than me.
Yandex is the same shit
@@vladkornienko7889 its somewhat better
While it understandable the use of AI/automated for millions of search entries per day, there has to be a better way to balance human and AI contributions of search results and content. However, it is probably unlikely that would happen because corporations like Google and Warner Bros. would use AI as a way save money, time, and work.
The reason Google is pushing AI so hard is purely because of investors. AI is the big buzzword right now so, Google being a big tech company, they need to show investors that they're ahead of the game by pushing out this "new" and "revolutionary" technology. It's all about short term gains, and showing growth for the next quarter. That's it.
The most Google response to their A"I" scraping satire and mistaking it for fact would be to ban satire
The "I" made me laugh out loud
Agreed, it's more artificial than intelligent lol
Once AI is training itself on AI content it will create a feedback loop and trend towards a maximal state of total nonsense. They won't be able to find modern data sets that aren't tainted.
There is ONE way to solve the issue. Not that anyone would ever listen to me. Begin again with a totally blank engine. From then on, not a single data point that hasn't been checked with a 6S (Sigma six or six sigma, whatever) level of certainty--on a SCIENTIFIC, factual level--would ever be permitted to be added. And I mean NOTHING. If it ain't 6S, it ain't goin' in. End of story; no exceptions; no excuses; NO APOLOGIES.
It should be titled FACT GPT. And that's it. THE END. No boolsheet, no lying, no complaining, no opinions, no questionable guesses, NOTHING. Only what collective mankind knows to be "Sigma six" facts. From there, isolated iterations--copies--could be crafted, and a "postulations" set of information could be introduced in order to see if the engine couldn't solve some things which mankind DOESN'T already know. :)
But this idea of training engines on FB?!?! Reddit?!?!? Friggin' old internet content and people's undying, inaccurate, unsubstantiated OPINIONS?!?? ARE YOU BLOODY *CRAZY*?!? Like, seriously... I'll ask it again... are you freakin' nuts?! That's the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard. Why in the tainted arse would anyone even CONSIDER teaching an engine that 2+2=5?! Or that "Madame Webb" was a glorious, award-winning triumph of cinematic glory?! Are you ree-tahr-dead?!?
>AI trains itself on AI content
> AI creates more AI datasets
>datasets overwrite the internet
>Internet becomes unusable
Or
>Data infrastructure continues to expand to house AIs, warming the globe far more consistently and intensely than carbon emissions ever could.
like a virus
I imagine this is already happening. Even before they introduced the ai summaries, google results were full of ai-written SEO fodder nonsens anyway! (websites that are clearly frankenstein'd together chunks of other articles filled with as many SEO grabbing words as possible but offering zero actual information) they're just saving you the step of clicking on any of the results that lead to ai jibberish and putting it front and center.
Ironically AI might destroy itself rather than taking over the world. 😂
Google is now the largest author and disseminator of disinformation on the internet.
In their defense: Gemini actually isn't authoring most of the disinformation, it is simply bringing it to the top. Google is the largest *promoter* and distributor of disinformation, most of which was plagiarized from satirical publications and/or internet trolls
Google is a minor player that believes itself to be far more important than it is. It will crash and burn as new systems will overtake it.
Always was.
10:10 I'm a system engineer and work with this stuff all the time. I can't help but think about how valuable actual real data is and how hard it can be to get. My theory is that these huge companies are trying to funnel all of your questions, code, comments, problems, solutions, pictures, ideas, etc into their own chat system, rather than you spreading the information out by asking on github, reddit, find a person to ask irl, etc. Doing this they get even more data since you stay in their ecosystem, agreeing to crazy ToS, and they increase the value of actual real data because everyone's real data is being input into LLMs rather than anywhere publicly facing. I think we're witnessing the mass privatization of publicly raw data in an attempt to massively over inflate company valuations.
It's almost like real raw public data will never exist again, further privatizing LLMs. Combined with the fact that so much public raw data is even generated by AI now, it's practically like they're poisoning the water supply. with how much people use LLMs in their work and how it's shoved down our throats, over time there'll be nothing left on the internet to train on besides LLM outputs, bots, and what people say in their chats with an LLM. it's bleak.
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I went to a tech conference. We were supposed to start conversations with random people about some topic. I started conversing with a guy who tried to sell me on AI for my business. I told him it was a lie, a trick, a sleight of hand and not what he thought it was. I'm a software engineer, and I can tell you AI is a clever trick. At some point, I had ten people ganging up on me and trying to convince me that I was using it wrong. I really can't understand how people can't think critically when it comes to AI. It's the new crypto scam. NVidia is at the centre of the lie.
"It's the new crypto scam"
Exactly, though AI is far worse than crypto ever was. Crypto at least wasn't forced upon everyone, people still had the choice whether or not to buy into it but every tech company is forcing AI on us. If you want an AI-free phone your only choice is a flip phone, but it's only a matter of time before AI infects those too. It feels dystopian how inescapable it's becoming. The majority of people can't see the many ways it will be misused either, they just see a neat chatbot that an answer questions and be their new best friend. My husband is enamored with AI but I want nothing to do with it, I remember the internet before all this nonsense and I'm not just being nostalgic when I say it was a much better place before AI and "curated" everything.
Thank you for sharing this comment. I had the same thoughts as well. We need to reject this ”innovation” claiming to be “intelligence.”
Shout out to “fucksmith” for altering reality years in advance 😂
fucksmith is a true hero. He hasn't posted in years, but we will never forget this wonderful pizza post. Redditors were wondering about the effect of all the similar 'shitposts' that Reddit is absolutely full of.
Mad respect to mr smith indeed.
...honestly, i tip my hat to that guy.
If only he knew that his secret ingredient to his pizza, Elmer's glue, was gonna be used as reference for humanity's future on how to make a good pizza 😂
Imagine if the post was never made. Butterfly effect.
You will know nothing, own nothing, and never understand the meaning of happiness. There, now the meme is more accurate.
Perfect
You will Own nothing and you Will be Happy. You Will eat Bugs and you Will be Content.
Instructions unclear, had Gemini scrape Peanuts comics to determine the meaning of happiness.
Me, a forcibly queer person returning home in 2030 after a long day of typing stuff into a hyperadvanced ai chatbot to generate corporate lies at Google and coming back to my Tesla-manufactured CyberPod where I own nothing and be forced to be happy about it:
@@mindofmadness5593capitalism's motto
This is why they're killing comedy. The soulless and humorless AI can't understand parody, satire, irony, sarcasm, etc.
The human mind is probably the most complex thing in the universe, giving us the ability for cognitive thoughts and reasoning, and Google really thinks we dont need that anymore and should stop thinking entirely. How many pieces of dystopian media are there where humanity got doomed for stopping to think on their own?
It's kind of funny though, the more rediculous the concept portrayed in media, (think the Jedi religion) the more likely people want to act like it's reality, but you mention 1984, and chances are they will then try and tell you it's just fiction, or, most likely, they simply have never read it.
Isaac Asimov's "The Feeling of Power" is a great story about a lowly nobody in a computer run future blowing people's minds by doing basic math with a paper and pencil, it's fantastic.
Artificial Incompetence. We make smart machines and silly people.
Smart Devices target Dumb Consumers. /s
AI is only as smart as the dumbest information we give it
@@AKMDN I see this the complete other way around (wich honestly doesnt make it better): The smartest information, the a.i. gives us will be only recived as smart as the way we dumb humans are able to receive/interprete it. (Like in that old scifi-movie where the computer was asked about the meaning of life and andwered "42")
😂😂❤
@@Overlordsen Perhaps, although then, whether we receive it from A.I. or another human, doesn't matter, it's us (as a whole) that's the problem.
That would be "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", love that film, but at least that A.I. questioned the validity of the question it was asked and knew its answer would be insufficient. Our's can't tell the difference yet
Knowledge is knowing humans eat a rock's worth of minerals to survive. Wisdom is knowing you don't eat it as a rock.
Hi this is correct but I think you need to swap 'knowledge' with "information" and 'wisdom' with "knowledge"
Thank you please come again
@@Dramn_ yep, knowledge is basically information that is put together and ordered in a manner where it makes sense. Information on its own is worthless.
@@Dramn_no he’s correct. Information is just information it’s useless until someone learns the information making it knowledge. Then wisdom is the ability to use the knowledge you’ve gained in a useful way. When I was 18 at had gained tons of knowledge but didn’t always use it in the best way. But now I’m 40 and have a lot more wisdom and that same knowledge is used much more effectively.
Thank you please come again.😂
@@Thumper68 Hello, to be wise is to have experience and to know the correct course of action generally in any given situation
@@Dramn_ ... he literally said that, no need to repeat after him
People still don't get the fact that those LLM doesn't understand single word they are producing ... is this speedrun for natural selection?
yes and no,
Yes because we take llm and other AIs as a convenience, using it left and right without questioning the prompts that spits text in out face.
and no, best example can be school, the same outdated system, do what it is told and don't ask questions. And rather than learning stuff that will help in life, we learn memorizing none sense, which will whoosh after the school anyways. AI it's a great tool with great capability, depends on how we use it.
And maybe you are right that AI doesn't understands what it prompts, but we do through reading the texts, so I guess we have to decide whether is wrong or right, if it needs a deeper research or is bs.
Anyone who's ever tried to search for how to fix (for example) a gearbox on a model of car, only to be greeted by results on different models, or even different parts of the car will know how broken Google' search results have been for the past 10 or so years.
We are in a dollar store, cyberpunk dystopia
all the corporate greed, none of the cool shit.
And the soundtrack is shit
All the data harvesting and ethical dubiousness, yet no neon strip clothing and led tattoos. Buncha bullshit
I think you mean $3 store.. Nothing is a dollar anymore
@@thedudeofthenorth and the Movies are unwatchable
satire sites indirectly doing god's work by best highlighting the flaws of using ai for information search
Yes, those wonderful Onion articles!
Yup come to think of it, sh*tposting is the future.
"We shit up the archives, go somewhere else nerds." - Torchbearer at Alexandria.
I was already starting to think that the gold rush of AI will ultimately be the death of AI.
I did not foresee that AI would also be the birth of "death by search Engine" concept.
The internet went from being this amazing tool used for global communication, research and ease of access to information, and international shopping that would've never been in the realm of possibilities before. Now it's pretty much just a cesspool of people who never go outside arguing with eachother, crazy scams, and propaganda. What a shame, this all really could've been something amazing. Don't get me wrong, it still is incredible, but the amount of shit you have to sift through to get a grain of something useful is getting genuinely unbearable at times. Even if you ignore social media.
I always thought it odd as a teenager in the 90s that something made by the US military had been released 'for free' and had become this amazing repository of all kinds of cool facts, uncensored peer-to-peer opinions, arcane knowledge and real-time unmoderated community conversation. I now realise it was the classic 'bait and switch' technique to get everyone and everything online, meanwhile they reveal their darker purpose: 24/7 political surveillance, programmable CBDC 'currency', and smartphone travel passports based on mandated government digital IDs. The internet is becoming a digital control grid that sees into everyone's home, everyone's leisure activities, everyone's travel and socialisation and reports it all to big daddy government. I realise exactly why this thing came from the US military now.
Big corporations are making it their life work to turn it into something unusable outside of what they want you to buy and believe
I miss the time that I found like minded people on any topic on online fora and had great conversations. No ads, no distractions. Just a bunch of people sharing knowledge, interests and having fun.
This Generation is completely fucked because of the internet.
As someone that's been off socials except for TH-cam for 4yrs, yup. It permeates every corner of the online world.
asking AI for mushroom advice is a darwin award that you definitely deserved
Considering the fact that most humans have a hard time identifying mushrooms I really don't think trusting experimental technology is a good idea.
I would never eat a wild mushroom. Too many look just like poisonous ones so I can't be bothered.
@@InvasionAnimation Tgat is the reason, why mushroom atlases exists, even pocket ones to carry to the forest with you…
There are a lot of mushrooms that are perfectly edible, delicious even, if you know how and when collect them…
Seen ads of apps that identify plants or tell you IF FOOD IS SAFE
F@(&ing how?! Phone cameras aren't Star Trek tricorders!!
@@Ramsey276one Elon has spent a decade proving that they can't see what's on a road, so they have no chance with food.
I asked CoPilot "Can the deep fryer have a bag of ice if it says it's parched?" and it basically said yes.
male
The mushrooms do look similar. Never eat wild mushrooms ever.
You missed the punchline: model collapse. It is going to get worse fast as it kills the underlying information sources
Big reason all those data hoarders with petabytes of you name it are heroes
I don't think model collapse is going to be some silver bullet against AI. I would argue that if real people are vetting what goes into the training sets, they are effectively adding information, even if all the training data itself is AI generated. For example, if "add glue to the pizza" doesn't make it into the training data but "make a bigger crust" does, the AI will get better, even if both those answers came from an AI.
And of course, training data needs to be vetted. Obvious troll Reddit posts should not be in the training data, no matter how funny they are.
@@BaddeJimme I didn't say it was a silver bullet, quite the opposite. It makes it more dangerous. What you say about human curation adding information is correct, but that information, but that is very scant information if what they are curating is generated. Cameras and other "sensory" input will also carry information into the system. This will massively increase the need to surveil us and interact with us manipulatively to mine us for information. We become the information generation cells powering the matrix. Model collapse is going to massively accelerate the slide into neuro-slavery until, possible, the system itself collapses
@@livenotbylies It is not that complex as it looks, if reddit will get curated, censured and what not, people will switch it or at least I think so. But I need to agree that such dystopian have a place to be a reality.
And this might be a silver bullet, AI is trained on different sources, now basically of the users. Now if all the data is not curated, such stuff as 1*1=2 will be spitted out, flat earth will be true, and the Austrian painter did nothing wrong.
I can only wish good luck to the people who'll try to curate the internet, it'll not be possible. If google would try to preform this stunt, the people will switch the sources. It is just to big of a investment, and let us be honest, those cormpos likes only when the numbers goes up not down, so the likewise is to small.
We have what not good AI models which are capable to assist us on the daily basis, further than that is just an excuse to cash grab the investors, there is no need to train the AI on things like reddit or youtube, this will brake the prompt, and it will spit garbage.
And what of google, all this AI stuff, it is mainly addressed to the investors, due to the "AI" being now a popular thing, should the interest die, they'll switch to the next hype thing.
Google: "As the information gateway, we have a zero tolerance policy on misinformation and disinformation - medical or otherwise"
Also Google: "Death Angel mushroom real good! Try Elmer's glue for that extra tackiness!"
and whatever that AI spits are more of misinformation than even (lot of) so-called Conspiracy Theories
such a yummy mushroom! 😋
their ai is not ready yet. they are giving us half baked food.
'' No one is stupid enough to believe whatever this A.I puts in front of them'' ..... First time visiting planet Earth my intergalactic traveler ?
"No one is stupid enough to-"
"Wrong"
There is another logical problem you didn't mention (at least directly). Assume that websites depend on being found via search engines, and that traffic to them is required for them to gain money. If Google decides to give users the info they require without having to go to these websites, these websites may shut down. Worse even: People will not make new websites because it becomes even less lucrative. This in turn will cause the AI to stagnate or even get worse. Worse even: It doesn't even seem to be a choice - it's simply forced upon users as they search for things. So you cannot even avoid it.
While it doesn't destroy the internet... it sure causes massive stagnation, some regression and makes some things a little better (needlessly, because Gemini exists), but on the long term worse.
...why are people acting like search engines besides Google don't exist..?
Google search once recommended that it was perfectly safe and legal to throw car batteries into the ocean.
Oh shit, it's not?
@@Retroloft556 Nah don't listen to this guy, electric eels love it!
@@voidimperial1179 That's what I thought!
this is an old meme.
Google self-deletion: results in crisis hotline prompts and all this motivational BS
Bing self-deletion: results in most efficient and painless methods
It is safe. It's not ecologically safe, of course. You can throw whatever you want safely into the ocean. As far as legally, I suppose that depends on the location and if they care about the health and safety of their surrounding oceanside. I'm being pedantic of course lol.
Now we're talking. The cursed TH-cam feed was just a catalyst, alongside the automod of TH-cam, but Google as a whole needed to be covered too.
Thank you for not letting anything slide.
He added 1/8 cup of Elmer's glue to the video to prevent anything from sliding.
I always thought “question everything” was hyperbolic/fear-mongering, but with stuff like this it really is better advice now than ever :/
The curtain is starting to come off the whole "AI" fad, there's nothing creative about it, it's just stealing from other peoples posts and articles, even the bad ones. This cannot be used commercially, once Ubisoft starts releasing games with AI written dialogue that should be grounds for a lawsuit. And it's so disheartening to hear Naughty Dog is getting into AI too...
Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin good forces have invented or made”
― JRR Tolkien
But if something (or someONE) evil has coin, connections, crews, clout, computer code, control, corrupt communities, and shady opportunities, they can do ANYTHING they wish. Anything at all. They can alter history. They can convince you that day is night and night is day. Two plus two equals negative three. Whoever has the most money, social credit, and cronies *WINS*. No exceptions.
10:15 It costs way way more to do an AI search than a normal one...
They are boarding the train so investors dont get out of the window, thats all
Honestly that makes the most sense. There is really no reason to use AI in search. At least not that I can see.
Finally, someone actually using their brain.
yeah, push anything that attracts money. If it sticks - great, if not then fire everyone involved and try to do it again with the next big tech bubble, even the same just with different product
it was never about the customer. Investors put money in stuff that is currently on the rise, so you need to "innovate" to not fall off.
it all originates from corporate mindset - predictions must go up. And it might just keep growing but at low stable rate, if you don't pursue current big innovation
@@tetrisgonzo37and I'm here for the whole Gartner Hype Cycle. Despite the possible dystopian future, I'm thrilled to see the AI hype's downfall. On the other hand, can we go back to 2022 and stick with DALL-E generated funny scenarios?
I wish they all went outside via window.
As an old school Google Fanboy, I 100% agree with your comment about how sad it is to see Google actively making things worse. I've definitely fallen off the fanboy wagon in the last few years.
"80% of waking hours spent plotting revenge." Hey, at least this one is true if you're a video games journalist.
Also jesus, is that what The Verge looks like now? That's the ugliest website redesign I've ever seen.
The problem is that AI is being used as a solution instead of as a tool but big companies don't realize that and it affects the already abysmal reputation of AI every time
They don't care as long as they can save a dollar or two rather than have actual people do the things ai can do for free
4Chan Will be the undoing of AI, as it is for almost everything else.
4Chan: Just because you are bad guy.
4Chan: Does not mean you are bad guy.
4chan is the embodiment of chaotic neutral in the form of a website, if they all set their sights on one particular thing, they will achieve their goal no matter what anyone could do, they have solved decade old cold cases, ruined peoples lives for abusing animals, along with many other things, if 4chan sets their sights on destroying AI in a few days we will wake up and notice it is all already gone.
8Chan for those who 4chan isn't weird enough... :)
It wont be long till the A.I starts looking results from 4chan since its already quoting answers from reddit and quora.
/pol/ is now utterly pozzed and run to the ground by heebs and various bugman outfits. The chaos and camaraderie of yesteryear has been totally rinsed out.
Miss the old internet. Used to be a fun place to explore and learn in
I remember as a web publisher some years back how Google would ding a page’s SEO if they thought it had too many ads. Cut to Google search pages today, where you have to scroll just to see the content rather than the ads.
And yeah, even back then, Google scraped our painstakingly-gathered and -curated product spec data and displayed it in their “summaries”. We could tell this was happening by deliberately listing specs that were off in the third digit (eg, changing 2.02” to 2.03”) and seeing the same numbers show up on Google’s “summary” pages 😠
the nice thing about searching on your own is that you (used to) get to learn about all sort of things related to what you are researching.
As well as unrelated stuff. Wikipedia rabbitholes are fun
Like a beheading vid I saw once without looking for it.
@@MargaritaMagdalena Did you find the names of the Americans still being held hostage that the current administration is doing squat about?
One of the many problems with AI is the 'I'. LLMs are not true AI's. They are essentially a fancy compiler. They regurgitate whatever is in their learning set but don't create anything themselves. They're not truly intelligent in the ways you and I are. We can read about putting Elmer's glue on pizza and assign that information a logically very low value. But these LLMs don't really have that capability. They can't judge for themselves and they can't really 'interpret' the data. But most people won't make that realization and that's why videos like this are so important.
For I in AI there must be free will component. That means machine really deciding by itself
It seems the “deus ex machina” if you will, is that these “ai’s” (or more accurately their human ownership) relies on outsourcing the judgement competent to crowd-sourced metrics signaled by real world human engagement. Time spent, upvotes, retwitters etc. the only thing that makes these compilers, as you put it, is their processing speed combined with mass interaction. Take the interaction away and you have a stack of calculators with a voicebox. (Except these machines follow rules not of pure mathematics, but arbitrary and opaque human created rule sets, in effect they take massive amounts of random noise and regurgitate exponentially more randomness and noise at an inhuman pace.)
@@balsarmy intelligence is not related to will. Intelligence is based on knowledge, that is, experience. The AI has no experience, it just scoops other people's information out of the world's garbage and pretends that it did it. It simply faking the knowledges
@@balsarmyFree will doesn't mean anything. You either make decisions for reasons or for no reasons. There's nothing separating our intelligence from an incredibly complex web of "if then" statements.
"AI" has become a corporate term to help ship a product, not a realistic term to describe functionality because explaining to the customer base that this is effectively "a more detailed word predictor" would hurt stock values.
2 points. First, critical thinking has been rare in the US for at least 25 years. People have always tended to believe whatever their favorite news channel tells them, as presented by their preferred anchor. This situation hasn't changed; and it looks like this is just the evolved version.
Second, don't underestimate the role of natural selection. Almost everyone from elementary school onward knows they have a powerful device in their pocket that can access the internet to learn and improve. But is that what most kids do? Do we really need more detergent eating people with room temp IQ? What will they teach their kids and those? The quality of DNA stock, the quality of ppl, the teachers, and education is getting worse, not just over generations, but every few years. Many schools have become little more than daycares for teenagers.
In a society that values intelligence, this wouldn't happen. But in the US and the West, where Idiocracy proved to be a documentary, it will.
I’ve been ignoring the bs ai results. Glad you’re talking about this.
the dead internet theory becoming more and more of a prophecy.
Check out the why files video on it. It’s really good. Called Dead Internet Theory.
Remember, we have dealt with this before. Mass media (radio, TV, newspapers) were always corporate-dominated and controlled by the government, though perhaps less so in the States because of independent operators.
Since the late 90's, we enjoyed unparalleled freedom in information distribution.
Google's moves are simple the elites' reaction to take that freedom away again.
Yep. People are questioning their new hole-of-cost too much
The elites want you to put glue in your cheese and to consume rocks daily?
Even some video games now use AI to monitor game chat so they can ban you even if you're just talking with your friends. The mute button existed for a reason and if you don't want to hear someone yelling at you, simply mute them
You had it worse in the states, compared to virtually any first world country. The difference was just that you government and your corporations are a lot more interconnected than most other places.
@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies I would 100% argue the opposite. Most people I have met overseas (I currently live in South Korea and have for decades) are way deeper into the uniparty establishment Koolaid. Not that degree matters when we're all swimming in p!ss.
And remember, Americans have guns. You all mostly don't, aside from based af Switzerland.
In Dune Frank Herbert warned us about thinking machines, what most people got wrong is that he was not warning against "Terminates / Skynet" but against people depending on machines thinking for them because who ever owns that machines can/will control every one else and people stop thinking for them self.
In Dune it seems like all computers are banned, not just ai which makes no sense because lasguns, ships, shields and other things wouldn't work without computers.
@@prime_optimus the book was written in 1965...
Propaganda turned slopaganda
This will make websites design their sites to be more easily scraped, rather than read. It's the new SEO.
There is no incentive to provide information to the robots. It won't show any ads, you are not getting any money.
Yesterday I googled a song with the name of the song and the band, I had the song on another tab, the lyrics google give me were completely wrong, and it was not an obscure song or anything like that. It's crazy how awful this is, and most people do not understand how insanely hurtful this can be.
How is that dangerous
@@Deprexx This time it was the lyrics of a song, but imagine, instead of a song, I wanted to know if a type of food is safe for my dog, and instead it gives me the answer for a cat and I feed this to my dog, and it turns out that it was in fact not safe, that would be dangerous. And you can extrapolate this example to a bunch of other things, so it's really not hard to imagine scenarios where this is a big problem.
Didn't know i'd be able to see dead internet theory come to fruition so soon
I only use Ai for math and physics...and nearly every time, I have to challenge its response with "Are you certain you are correct?" and almost invariably, it follows with "I apologize, you are correct...." If it cannot provide pure objective answers to mathematical equations, I'm baffled how it could ever work subjectively. Always challenge it, even if you think it's correct and see.
thats what you get when you train an AI with reddit user opinions
Wait those are opinions?
I thought it was just empty statements to look good to random strangers while providing nothing of value, I had no clue reddit users were that challenged in the brains department, man god clearly does not exist, no omnipotent creature can fuck up this bad!
Exactly. And ya know what? Some years back, I made a huge post on my FB account suggesting that at least ONE A.I. engine should be entirely devoted to 100% facts and nothing more. I'm talking about "Sigma six" (or 6Sig, whatever) levels of certainty on every data point, too. In other words, things like gravity existing, the distance from X to Y, and whether a human was born on day Z or held a particular position from year A to B or whatever. FACTS. Things that aren't open to interpretation, and which have been cross-corroborated by MANY.
Guess what? EVERYONE TR011ED THE LIVING SHEET OUT OF ME. I was flagged, tr011ed, cajoled, mocked, blocked, restricted, censored, ghosted, and "invisibilized". After that, I realized that people would far sooner accept a CGPT or "Midjourney" program which stole information of any type from anywhere rather than accept the idea of embracing science, facts, data, logic, etc. So, yeah, there ya go... REDDIT FTW, BABY! Opinions are all that matter. Popularity, social credit, instant internet assessments, and whatever Chump says are the most important things. Who cares about Sagan's "TDHW", right?! Who needs a BDK when you can just accept whatever some ones and zeroes shat out onto a digital screen? :/
Fugg society. Buncha friggin' lemming-style m0r0ns. #NoThancoo!
one thing though, for tech support and food reviews and the like which doesn't incolve political opinion reddit is actually "cool"... to th point where people are putting "reddit" at the end of their google searches to filter out ai generated search.
(im not saying reddit is heaven btw, it isnt lol)
@@sportscaryungredNo, you are just too lazy to make accounts on the proper forums, reddit sucks for everything.
@@hypnotised-clover like what type of forums though... expertsexchange lol. I mean yea u have a point. Forgot about Stackoverflow of all places :)
So.. It's Google now taking responsibility for liability since they are now the provider of said information? Wasn't their prior defense the same as youtube that individual creators upload content and not the website so they weren't liable?
Not only a huge liability issue if people follow what the AI says and are harmed or killed, but also a huge defamation problem for Google when their AI falsely cites the information as originating from a real institution or company.
They were legally publishers from the moment they started moderating opinions.
But law only works one way.
Something tells me that they won't consider themselves to be liable. That might be a fun question to ask their AI😂
@@sharpvidtube or a judge.
@@robertmarder126 I think someone needs to take one for the team to make them get rid of this
Apart from being a slip away from full-blown dystopia, the name 'Gemini' only ever reminds me of Gemini Home Entertainment...
same
If this actually goes through, research will be dead. I’m a physics student and the first step in any research today is to look things up. A.I. is garbage, but when it comes to math and science, it is REALLY garbage. Research is already hard enough. Adding in a bunch of messy and just outright wrong slop will do nothing but make it worse.
We're straight up *_SPEEDRUNNING_* our way to Cyberpunk 2077 here, and this time, CD PROJEKT RED has nothing to do with it...
well the original ttrpg was cyberpunk 2020 and thats when this shit REALLY kicked off. the series might be prophetic lol
Lol the crazy thing is so many people think the opposite, its going to be an abundant utopia. Wtf. Bro have you not worked corpo? They are run by sociapathes and run on politics and self interest. You expect these companys and ceos to build your utopia? Do you not remember nestle would rather feed poison to babies then lose profit. Bill gates running experiments on africans 😂
We're not even gonna make it to 2077 at this rate. Gonna have to call it Cyberpunk 2037 at this rate
We're not that lucky 😂 at least the world of Cyberpunk 2077 is interesting, ours will end up more like Wall-E 😂
@@kobold7466 "Prophetic"
Jesus Christ, you guys will really call anything prophetic. At least in Cyberpunk, people have at least have some merits to be "Free".
There's no comparison to what type world we live in, because there is no comparison. At least People in 1984 and Brave New World think they live in a Utopia. Whereas our Zoomer-Ass Generation are well aware of the issues, but we keep hiding behind a veil of learned helplessness and blaming the boomers, while admitting we're all lazy fucks who are too content with what they see.
we're entering an age, where searching for something for a few minutes is considered too much work for some people...
It's precisely why everyone will continue to see more and more "instant internet assessments". And what do I mean by that? Simple. It's when some video or page of information would take 12-24 minutes to watch or read... and yet SOMEone out there is going to take three seconds and be like: "That guy's probably a drug dealer", or "Well, that's what happens when you're a democrat (or republican)", or something equally stupid, rash, and non-sequitur. I've been seeing this kind of thing every single day for YEARS now. People make up their minds after 3-6 seconds. Even if the content is bloody well THREE HOURS LONG, they "already know everything about it" in a few seconds. :/ Friggin' ridiculous.
To be fair, it's really handy for phones because browsing the web on them is terrible. That's why I hate phones.
I think we may already be in it, I've had debates with people who's points could be completely countered or proven false with maybe 20 minutes of research. I think a lot of people online just hope everyone else is as uninformed as them.
@@devalue7064 Phones made the internet mainstream and now we have sites copying Tik Tok's short format and recommended on PCs. Why would I want to watch an video where I can't go forward or rewind, has AI narration, the same song that everyone uses, and is it a portrait aspect ratio?
I think I'll be using a search engine that doesn't support AI results.
even brave search has it.
I get google doing this, but launching something they themselves do not call beta, do not call alpha, but call experimental on their entire user base is an insane business choice to me.
The fact that google gives more than one answer per search is a bug, according to Eric Schmidt,the goal has always been for google to tell you one answer. Complete centralization of information
I never heard about him saying thay, thats not terrifying at all. S
Get one answer. Read it. Study it. Get another. Same as it always was. Media literacy
Everyone always fearmongering conscious AI, when in reality, AI not being conscious like us is what makes it dangerous. It’s HAL 9000
Metal Gear Solid 2 in a nutshell.
Yah but without an arsenal gear or solid snake or philanthropy to stop jt
@@Tesseract745it’s up to us
@@Tesseract745 as far as we know
What I don't understand is why don't people create an "open source" search engine with no scrapping? Like, everybody can submit a page with search keywords, and everybody who clicked on the link upvotes or downvotes it. Kinda like wikipedia but for links with votes.
Actually, nevermind, I thought of so many problems with this 10 seconds after posting (like farming votes: post something good, get votes, change the page with the same link to something bad).
I could think of a random song and youtube would find it, now i can literally write the exact tittle of the vid and only get spam.
So it's being trained on data from the average netizen? The kinds that fill comment sections after hallucinating entire contents of articles based on just a headline, then argue back and forth about their hallucinations?
AI can do this noise injection/ poisoning so much better 😩
Google (and Bing) has been basically useless since 2018, IMO. AI is only going to make it worse.
was hoping you'd mentioned why this product even exists. Its a band-aid solution to the problem of the Internet being filled with SEO spam, largely contributed by the use of AI. So now it looks like we'll have AI writing billions of websites and AI interpreting them, seems like quite a dystopian future :(
search has already gotten annoying compared to search from 2012/13/14.
At this point I only use it for searching Reddit and finding specific news articles. It’s useless outside of that.
I started getting these AI summaries from Google a week or so ago, and immediately tried to search ways to disable the feature. The summaries were always... I don't know how to say it... they were "off". Everything sounded like a headline on the cover of a magazine. Really sensationalized and imprecise. AI has its place, and that place is not replacing the thinking of individual humans. I miss normal search results.
Set your search engine shortcut to include the following, after Google's domain:
/search?q=%s&udm=14
You can disable it. By blocking it's origin address. My ad blocker didn't do enough so I have 2 other plugins one to block cookies of certain types and one to littlerly see every single active origin request for each service.
Or just use &udm=14 (yes, that is the website's name) and use it to filter out A.I search results. It's only a bookmark away after all..
News flash, it has been dead for like 10 years now, just like the rest of entertainment.
And now we gotta fix it.
@@ethandtheangryenglishguy8253 you cant fix stupid. and internet nowadays is made out of stupid. it was good before, because it was only for tech-savvy people, and only way how to solve it is to move to darknet and repurpose it for ordinary web experience, and it needs to be harder to setup, preferable through command line, that way you get rid of undesirable people.
That feeling when Bing and Yahoo search might make a comeback.
Thought provoking video, thank you. Funnily enough, followed by an ad for AI which is telling site owners that without AI their user engagement will suffer. I'm coming back round to thinking...sod it, i hate it. Why am i providing these companies with the opportunity to influence me at all? Oh yeah, i remember, it was sold as an opportunity to widen my perspective and engage more fully with the world outside my own little box... by putting myself Into a box of "their" making.
Ironic how UE says the Tiktokkers are stupid because they made Nyquil Chicken, given how Nyquil Chicken was a *parody* that was taken as real and used as an example that TikTok was stupid and dangerous.
Indeed: It was a parody that first actually appeared on Reddit and 4chan, but the reason why the story leads back to TikTok is because it came to the attention of mass-media after TikTok slapped a warning message on the obvious troll videos showing the "sleepy chicken" challenge, causing a Streisand effect.
Now I'm personally of the opinion that TikTok is about as low as it gets on the internet drivel scale, but to say it's stupid or any more dangerous than anything that has come before it - remembering that the biggest "killer" challenge on TikTok was the old blackout dare that went around schoold playgrounds without the help of social media to help it in pre-internet days - is just more fuel for inaccurate LLMs.
Now *that* is ironic.
@@rossstewart9475 Glad to find *someone* who shares a similar opinion, that isn't just blindly agreeing me for the sake of it.
@GHOSTSTARSCREAM Fun fact, Tide Pods were also overblown; iirc only like 3-7 calls were ever made to the poison hotline regarding purposeful ingestion of laundry pods?
I agree with your point, but tiktok still isn't clean in all this. Even just killing or hospitalizing a few people is more than enough to say that clearly something's going wrong here.
@@tttttttttttttttp12 No I agree with that, but the irony of him saying "well those dumb tiktokers who do shit like this without questioning it would obviously fall prey to it" when he fell prey to spreading (minor) misinformation directly because he didn't question what he heard before repeating it.
It's perfectly normal for companies to just throw stuff out there well before it's ready.
Like, the most visited website in all of history has decided to completely break their search with bad information, followed by paid-for information, followed by the actual information if you scroll down far enough. And it's just considered normal.
This is literally the plot of Metal gear solid: sons of liberty
I’m actually scared that Google’s advertisement here is “we’ll do the googling for you”.
*What the fuck?*
The censorship of dissenting opinions against establishment interests and 'special' groups are this thing's biggest job to handle, plus even more invasive advertising i would wager.
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Absolutely. Wrong think is the primary objective.
See the black African pope for confirmation. Thanks Gemini, you're the best.
But they use professionals in the field to train the AI on how to avoid biases! AKA how to only be biased exactly like the liberals who train it.
Thinking hand wringers with clammy little hands would let this tech be "muh free", against the backdrop of their megalomania and persecution complex was always unrealistic.
Jewish propoganda will be front and centre
In the AI's defense, The Onion is more credible than "legitimate" media these days.
Ah, but the true point is that algorithms simply cannot make a DISTINCTION. They're like a paranoid retriever; they bring back EVERYTHING because they assume that whatever they find and bring back is just as relevant as whatever you threw. :/ Yes, I'm joking, but everyone needs to stop and consider just how "dumb" algorithmic jank really is. IT'S ONLY AS "INTELLIGENT" AS THE DATA SETS. Garbage in, garbage out.
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Google: "We need to try to stop misinformation!"
Also Google: "You can make spaghetti with gasoline!"
I miss the internet of the 90’s 😢
mIRC and thousand deep bots crashing people's PC with pings on Yahoo
I miss the internet of the early 2000s because of Twitter mostly 😢 Twitter was my favorite website and now it's ruined 😭😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢💔
I love how the screeching about misinformation stops the moment it benefits giant corporations.
More like the death of real actual living and breathing people on the internet, I mean just seeing how TH-cam itself is controlled by bots still to a major degree in my opinion, I just don't see how AI can't influence that more now, I mean it'll be easy simply.
With knowing how some Ai's work smarter, lesser than one's, and the dumber ai I think it'd just be scary to talk to them instead of a more suitable person besides the web giving some basic answers itself we need real people at the end of the day.
Disrupting technologies disrupt. It's the way things are.
I mean dead Internet theory has been proven. So this is just the next step.
This is why I shut down my website, no one actually reads website pages anymore
I stopped using Google years ago. Never looked back. Don't plan to go back either.
so what are you using?
I also wanna know what you're using, it really just feels like a "picking of lesser evils" out here with who I want my info to be stolen from
I've been with DuckDuckGo for a while and I ain't switching back.
DuckDuckGo is a ‘good’ privacy-first alternative that avoids all this crap, though it does incorporate search results from the Bing index of the web (just without any of the garbage that Microsoft spews out along with their search results).
As for other Google products: all are easily avoidable… apart from TH-cam 😉
@@GardenVarietea Ah wouldn't let me post any links, well especially alternative competitions... Startpage and Qwant are good for a lot of reasons for replacement search engines.
We’re living through the modern day burning of the Library of Alexandria except this time it’s happening in slow motion.
Oh, I expect it to become so totally befuddled by itself that people might actually DECIDE to search the relevant information they are looking for from Libraries, which might lead to a renaissance in reading and learning!!
The moment I saw these "AI summaries" showing up in my searches, I knew this wasn't going to be good
You can exclude those "AI summaries" by editing your search engine settings. Set your search engine shortcut to include the following, after Google's domain.
/search?q=%s&udm=14
I disabled that crap immediately.
There's an extension for it, at least on PC
Google: *"Don't be evil"* (motto)
So much for that..... 😒
All companies as they grow eventually become a sociapathic machine, those old values were consumed by its subsequent corporate publicly traded immune system
That hasn't been their internal motto since at least 2014 sadly.
That's so last decade. It's all the rage now at Google.
Genius motto along the lines of "The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he did not exist."
Elon Musk called it right "What I care about is the reality of goodness, not the perception of it. And what I see all over the place are people who care about looking good while doing evil.
Why do companies that generate billions of dollars in revenue feel the need to dumb down their services in favor of making even MORE money
When I looked up how to make crab rangoons the summarizer listed the ingredients for Every. Single. Recipe. And it just didn't stop..
Geminai?
The same AI that refuses to make image with PEOPLE because the AI is soo cooked that it will ONLY make images of brown-black people?
Really? lol.
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The black Nazi soldiers were just too much for GeminAI/Google...
Lol I hate ai
Google only gives us around 50 pages of search results, when there are clearly billions of results
And 49 of those pages have absolutely nothing to do with what you searched for
@@tylerthomas2026 yup
Nah, just 3-5 at most
i also love how the "parachutes are no more effective than backpacks" result says they ran a study where they gave 23 people either a parachute or a backpack, pushed them out of a plane, and recorded whether they died or not. almost a sketch comedy premise