The En-S***-ification of the internet
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With the rise of Generative AI, the internet ecosystem (much like physical riverways, orbodies of water) is becoming polluted with sludge and spam. As more and more people turn to the process of producing as much low quality garbage as they can, in the hopes of monetizing it... the internet undergoes somewhat of a transformation
In the past, it was a place of interesting ideas and connection. Now? Now its becoming a place where the laziest, stupidest people you can possibly imagine, relentlessly bombard the world around them with low quality, artificial content.
Its almost like "The Dead Internet Theory"... is real.
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As a stock market guy who's an absolute bear, I believe more in the dead Internet theory than the efficient market hypothesis. Let that sink in
So it would be fair to assume that 60% of these comments are bots.
Makes sense considering the increasing nonsense in comment sections.
The web is not the same place I experienced as a kid. It feels like unless I am in a chatroom, I am alone. All profiles are just fake. Engagement is fake. Its all just bots and sparse real people.
BEEN A WHILE BUT YUP ....its getting worse by minute wait till the new ms ai windows 11 drops this is gonna be an utter shit show
I think most of crap from all this listening to the Video I think it boils down to one thing Greed and Addiction, And part of that is thanks to Scammers of course and they come in different ways, Social Media, the ESG groups, And Communist and Marxist ideology, and those would use it to destroy peoples live and at this point its almost like AI is trying to be the NEW Pandemic considering how you constructed the video, mean glad you made the video though again just this just deeper into the longterm problem right now Im more worried the US is going to Civil War or WW3.
The internet has become just like TV, so many channels and yet nothing on.
I know, i know, i remember when cable was in mi house, and there were few channels but the few were good, and have stuff, for me cable die, more or less around 2008 or 2009, and o mi lord everithing look same, yes more channels and nothing to see
Always handy to keep a strong DVD collection of all your favourite shows/movies. Then it doesn't matter what's on the internet or TV.
@@Krysnha Even as a kid back in 2003 I already knew cable television was hot garbage 400 channels only 3 that are tolerable and all of them jam packed with ads exactly why I moved to the web
@@JcoleMc i remember a joke from those times were, a kind of horror tv in fairy godfathers and animaniacs, was putting someone to watch tv and change channel nothing good, and that was a long time ago, already was showing signs of how bad was
There it is the thing I couldn’t put into words.
Me and some fellow 90s early internet alumni have had very real mourning periods for the time in internet history when you could fire up a search engine and go LOOKING for stuff.
And find things that interested you. Weird niche communities and elaborate fansites and curated fiction collections... and then 5-6 companies bought up everything, and now it's a glorified phone book that plugs in to a series of propaganda networks.
Thanks Zuckerberg.
I remember when you would google something and get relevant results. Nowadays when you google something you get 95% ads and other ai junk from google itself and 5% relevant results.
Remember StumbleUpon in the early 2000’s? It was great to find the niches and exploring what the internet had to offer. Even in that time the internet was mostly free although the big companies were starting to expand.
It’s sad knowing that there are people today who will NEVER know what the internet use to be.
@@jrobmccoyi miss stumbleupon so much
I miss the days when everything wasnt personalized on the web, especially here on TH-cam. Why would anyone want irrelevant crap mixed in with their search result?
@@jer1776This!!! Fuck this personalization!!! I don't want to get search results that the search engine believes to be relevant for me specifically... this is exactly how all these echo-chamber bubbles are created today.
Let's review:
Linkedin made it harder to get a job.
Social media made people antisocial.
Online dating makes it harder to find a spouse.
Amazon made it harder to find books.
true...
Could you elaborate about LinkedIn? I haven't used it, since it is not popular in my region
What's with LinkedIn? I don't use it but people around me - do. So I am curious how this affects our work life.
I love Amazon's kindle. But its only one source for books. Its not the technology that's at fault, in all of your above. Its how people choose to use (abuse) it.
I agree with that comment
Forget AD blocker, now we need AI blocker.
The ads by now have become the content itself
With laws that require AI generated content to have a digital watermarks, we can have software that detects said watermaks and block it
This is actually a very good idea. Not sure what that will end up looking like but I fully agree
@@Estoc_Bestoc_ There's no way to do that on an open platform like PC though, since the users can find a way to modify the data and remove the watermarks.
Even with stuff that's hidden in the content, like what they proposed for text from GPT, you can easily remove it by having another AI make trivial changes to the text to remove it. This type of thing will just create a market for adversarial AI's and the watermarks will only be useful for a week or two after they're developed.
@@La0bouchere we're fecked
The usefulness of the Internet has drastically decreased over the last 5-7 years. Googles is almost completely useless now and garbage adds and bots are worse than ever. Plus all the fake AI garbage. I hate it
How is Google almost completely useless now?
@@andersonrusnell3102 Far too many queries have succumbed to the very enshittification described in this video: useless, unreliable, AI-generated articles en-masse (also occasionally stuffed to the brim with an excessive amount of ads)
I'm a mechanic so I hunt for parts online ALOT. If I searched Google for 1995 dodge ram 1500 brake disk and rotor kits Google won't even show me dodge parts. It won't even show brake parts half the time. It'll show you hundreds of completely unrelated "sponsored" articles and makes what should be about 5 mins of looking turn into hours of hunting for the right parts. It's become infuriating
@@ThatGuyBrian 100%, I realised a few years ago that I'm in the habit of just putting "reddit" at the end of almost every search because it's the only way to hopefully find real people and not those auto-generated pages designed to capture search queries.
@@Matt-fo4gg Yep. I do the same. TH-cam comment sections fulfill a similar role. (Though you can't really search them up.)
Normies and Corpos will always ruin everything. This is the cycle of things.
Unfortunately true..
What makes you so special ?
Don't forget the feds.
How many people whom wanted NOTHING to do with computers and were very vocal about it now stare into their phone like some junkie - so sad.
@@terrylandess6072 This makes me wonder how much they do to make it as addictive as possible. I remember something with an ingredient being added to cigarettes to make the nicotine hit the system faster or harder.
I always said that we have lived through the golden age of the internet, when it was still a wild west before corporations, governments and bad-faith actors would overwhelm the system by being organized. And here we are, at the cusp of the end of that age, staring into the artificial abyss
Regulations force bad actors while a free, wild west internet will have legitimate competitors, making things better to one up the competition.
I love reading a comment like this, clicking replies and seeing the one there was is not showing up at all
@@25thDaveWalkersame lol
Yeah, cause the TH-cam Censorship Bot(s) gotta Censor everything we talk about. i literally just got out of a 24 hour ban for "Cyber Bullying" because i said someone had a Clear Gambling Addiction. you can't make this sh...tuff... up.
@@Glitch-Gremlin bro, not even writing the word you wanted at the end just shows how... "sh...tuff..." it got.
literally noticed the same with me when writing things on the internet and it's so annoying to be THAT carefull about what words you use.
not even starting with people that turn around what you wrote to make you look bad...
Maybe the Cyberpunk lore concerning the old internet is destined to unfold in much the same way - with the internet becoming a terrifying realm of incestuous automated behaviour feeding on itself, and everyone having to build a big old wall around it and say "That's enough of that, thanks."
It's already been around for a long time - it's called the "deep web", the massive network of unindexed webpages that can only be accessed through TOR or similar browser.
The Blackwall was only erected after Rache Bartmoss's dropped a nuke on the internet. That code that he deployed quickly corrupted data. The rogue AIs only appear after the blackout, cause Corpos and Netwatch still want to access the old internet for data
Beyond the Blackwall
That’s basically what it already feels like
If you participate in niche communities away from mainstream platforms it really does feel that way.
The thing that makes this worse is that there's a lot of people out there who genuinely don't care about this kind of thing happening and will even defend it because they are more interested in being able to have more "content" to consume rather than have that content actually have depth and meaning. It's an increasingly prevalent mindset when it comes to visual media, and is also reminiscent of how people will defend live service video games that are content bare at launch drip feeding paid content afterwards to the point where a content "filled" game will practically cost over $100 after all is said and done.
Some people's whole attitude is "just go with the flow". If it makes life easier in the short term people will do it, see also c0vid jabs.
The "it is what it is" crowd
I wonder how soon until mmo's can pretend to have a populated game with ai bots, whose behavior and dialogue will be designed to siphon the maximum amount of money from actual human players.
i have no mouth and I MUST CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
@@MSpotatoes I believe there was a study done on Runescape years ago(though I don't remember if it was RS3 or OSRS) that, when calculated and analyzed, suggested there are more active bots in the game than actual players. I can say with full certainty that bots in Runescape have the potential to appear just as human as a real player, and they have for quite a while. They generally won't do this on a large scale because it's not particularly efficient to have a bot goofing off instead of farming gold or skilling, but the scripts are out in plain view, and don't require much knowledge to have a bot act like a real person in the game.
The internet went from sheer wonder to sheer horror since i started using it in the 90s till the last 10 or so years... i remember hearing that the concept of the internet was always to be used for military communication, fitting that something designed to be used as a weapon has in fact been weaponized.
yeah sharing information between departments, such a weapon... just like the coffee machine in their staff office
@@ethanwasme4307If you think that information can't be used as a weapon, you're delusional.
@@ethanwasme4307 1 smart phone would have changed the course of history in the 1930s if a certain little mustache man had it.... information is power.
The "weaponized" part still exists, it's just not the clear web. SIPRnet is a thing and I'm pretty sure every military has their own variation since day zero
It is the clear web, they got everyone to attach tracking devices onto themselves that they incessantly update themselves every 5 seconds @@ManiacX1999
The theft of the internet by corporations is a crime against humanity.
its not just the internet, everything is shitty.
I like to look at the graph that shows Good/Bad/Human internet traffic and think of that like our mental space. It's easy to see the imbalance of good and bad and forget the power of the human element in our lives. I'm glad you vent friend even if it's just a passing TH-cam comment you still have thoughts that are worth sharing and not forgotten
Late stage capitalism. This house of cards is coming down as we speak
No it's not. People who have control are not going to let the status quo change. It will just get worse forever.@@ragnakak
@@ragnakak lol, capitalism where?!? We live in a socialist world, get your facts straight.
@@LucasCunhaRochaL take
I feel like this has been happening slowly ever since MySpace was released. I can distinctly remember a time prior to that where the internet was merely a tool that people used to enhance their lives with information. Now it's just used to keep society mindless drones.
That was a time when if you wanted to say anything on the internet, you had to knew how to make and host a website. This meant that had to be either intelligent or intelligent but mentally ill (I'm adding this distinction just to clarify that in that time not everything on the web was automatically trustworthy and worthwhile, people like the Time Cube guy or TempleOS guy still roamed the web).
Now everyone with anything to say, can say it freely. That's not a good thing for society, to have everyone's voice amplifies equally. Or even worse, to amplify more the voices of those, who were obsessive about posting online all day, every day. This is why I see Web2.0 to be a mistake in the hindsight.
I like to put is as "the internet used to be an escape from reality. Now it is reality."
It's not even that we "take it too seriously." Employment, business, and so much more professional endeavors basically REQUIRE the internet now. The internet became "serious business."
Hey at least MySpace was actually cool - FB sanitized the interface and allowed toxic people to post their insanity.
@@lollertoaster Terry Davis was a cool guy. Not everyone can say they built their own OS from the ground up.
@@lollertoaster _Now everyone with anything to say, can say it freely. That's not a good thing for society, to have everyone's voice amplifies equally. Or even worse, to amplify more the voices of those, who were obsessive about posting online all day, every day._
Not exactly "freely". They only want to amplify voices that are supported by governments who want to keep the status quo or advance their globalist agenda. Remember that many countries have laws against "hate speech" which means anything the governments hates and challenges the status quo.
Even in the US, with the First Amendment, the federal goverment could just "encourage" private companies to censor material they don't like and amply their "message" so that politicians could gas light the public on how the government isn't violating the 1st Amendment, it's just the right of the private company despite Section 230 existing.
Monetizing social media was the absolute worst decision of the last decade
Why is it the worst decision in the last 10 years?
So do you think having all those servers online is free?. They way they chose to monitize is really bad, but most people wouldn't pay to use one
There was a Screen Rant job posting a while ago where they required their writers to produce over 100 articles a day. Basically an implication that their "writers" need to use AI to repurpose other people's content.
Not even surprised that's a requirement.
Unrelated but you have great content.
it's not like they've been making original content anyway before moving to ai to pump out crap
What's worrying is that this might end up becoming a normalized metric for companies like: "What do you mean, 100 articles a day is the standard these days, isn't it?"
Being a writer sounds like an absolutely terrible job😂
A college course I had had several dead links to websites that were down for a year or two.
I told the professor, and they "repaired" the link.
Yes... it took me to a page, but the page the course was using was put behind a paywall.
Even random sites are realizing they can monetize what was once a free resource...
I've had a similar experience where one of my professors back in uni had a bunch of links in the course schedule for each week, and half of them were broken, no longer existed, or were behind some sort of paywall. Sometimes you can gain access to these resources through the Wayback Machine, but other times you're just screwed because it was some esoteric resource that has since been locked behind a paywall before anyone actually archived it
My watch later playlist has 95% of its old videos removed. TH-cam used to show it, now it pretends they never even existed.
@@metalema6 so, if you do opt to show the removed videos, it does allow you to get to the dead links and get them to clipboard.
I'm certain you should know what that means?
@@AshnSilvercorp Well we meet again.
It's like the golden goose story where the couple found a goose that laid golden eggs. But the internet found out how to clone the goose and have thousands of golden egg laying geese, but now all the gold is worthless.
That story was surely ahead of its time
Inflation?
The sheer irony of the fact that we lived in a "network with your friends, friends of friends, and people with your specific interests" that grew into the "global internet", only for it to wrap all the way back around to becoming the first again is both darkly amusing and deeply saddening. We took our digital promethean fire and are slowly choking it for the sake of a quick buck or a "better quarter". I don't think that the internet itself is going away, but I wouldn't be surprised if we go back to the days of personal IMs and online gaming/multiplayer like things that you can do with your IRL friends simply because they are the only people who you can verify are...people.
There's an entire generation of brain-dead kids who've known this shitty internet as their only "normal". Far from the good old days coming back, I only see this degeneration getting worse...
The Internet as it currently exists is an ouroboros, and it's been this way since the beginning of the current millennium.
Funny thing is, it's kind of already doing that. I've made it a point to not have algos inform my media feed by simple virtue that said algos can be used to influence people.
it's healthier to live irl if you have real friends
Yeah, I met my best friend online almost 20 years ago. Up until now you could always have a phone call to verify they were a real person. Worst case scenario was getting scammed or catfished. Now with AI doing voice as well even that wont be able to verify someone as human.
The internet two decades ago was a **powerful** tool for learning, information gathering on touchy topics, and overall usability.
Today it's like switching from using milk with cereal to water, it is so sad how much has been restricted.
Where is the 'restriction"?
@@Look_What_You_Did Talking against those who control the system. Exposing corruption or fraud. Being restricted in to group think, etc. Just because you do not see it doesn't mean it is not there.
@@Look_What_You_Did Before, search engines used to be a lot more powerful and organic, it would crawl all the text on a single webpage, you could search for a block of text and as long as you put it in quotes "", google would show you the exact page that text was pulled from. You would truly get search results fitting the text that you typed and there wasn't really much SEO. These days, the entire algorithm is gamed. There are bot websites that take up most of your search results. These SEO and advertisements abusers are pulled all the way to the top of search results. Yes, google can in fact be paid to put your website at the top of key searches & no, google doesn't usually tell you it is an advertisement. This is demonstrated by scammers and fraudsters who find a "popular" search phrase and paying google to place their site on the top of web searches. For example, if you were to search OBS on google, you would get the official OBS website, but then someone might have purchased the phrase "OBS video software" and this search, specifically, could lead to an unofficial OBS download that contains malware as the top result. The next problem is searches itself, google & most other search engines are a lot more dishonest with how their searches work now. You see, whatever you type in for your search text, google doesn't actually search that text at all. It omits and replaces words for what it "thinks" you want to search for and displays results for that search. The longer your search terms, the more inaccurate it becomes.
The biggest problem though when it comes to the 'restriction' of the Internet has to do with the control of domains. It used to be much easier & cheaper to get your own domain and host a website. This isn't so true these days, a couple of corporations basically have control over the domain name system. Then you have the corporations who own the CDN's that most websites use to offload bandwidth & make the websites more functional. Which brings us to another big gatekeeper in the Internet game, DDoS protection. DDoS attacks have become a prolific tool of abuse over the last decade that DDoS protection is pretty much required for most people to host their websites, especially if the website has "competitors" or has a 'political' stance that some people disagree with. DDoS protection is extremely expensive, & there aren't that many options to choose from. Now imagine if these corporations at every level of the Internet backbone suddenly started to decide to further restrict who gets to have websites solely based on politics, do you see the problem with that?
@@Look_What_You_Didyou don't see any videos about 9/11 that aren't just regurgitating the government narrative
@@Look_What_You_Did "freedom of speech does not mean freedom of reach" go figure, in a pre 2012 internet the websites peddling this garbage would have been laughed out of their daily traffic
As someone once said “I used to use the internet to escape reality, now I use reality to escape the internet.”
I've noticed the internet getting "retarded" in a literal sense over the last few years. It's too cluttered with nonsense now and the algorithm can't show me what i want until it's found like 1000 things to sell me first. Even then, between the 2 phones I use it won't even let me see the same products without finding the URL itself - strictly because I use other people's money to buy car parts on one but not the other so it thinks i'm rich and willing to pay more for the same thing.
I've also noticed my rl friends getting that way doom scrolling on whatever after a year working night shifts, security. I did different things. I can't tell his real responses, which are human, from bot. Not AI, but just a crappy bot. Just one word replies, etc.
Finally, someone who's not afraid to use the R word. And y'know what? I agree with you.
This shitification is becoming more widespread every day.
@@CommissionerLawWonder86 its our word! XD
@@CommissionerLawWonder86just do what I do call them rtards TH-cam can't pick it up
Sometimes you need to surcomvent the alogrithm
Not only has it been restricted from its Wild West days, but the attitudes of the users has changed. I really miss when people where enamored with its novelty and there was a genuineness that people expressed when using it. Also the amount of SEO manipulation that clutters searches with AI article slop is infuriating.
Profit seeking ruins yet another beautiful thing.
The beauty of the internet was really its negativity.
When corpos tried to throw trash down people's throats they would rebel. When ways of expressing disapproval were removed, people would leave the site.
So now they just bought everything up and there's nowhere else to go.
Removing the dislike button 10 years ago would have made youtube become desolate.
it used to be nerds and outcasts on the internet, then all the cool and popular people got on it and that's why the attitude has changed
the seo manipulation is too much, i cant find what im looking for without including search filters
@@prahalladkashyap8187 Even search filters aren't usually good enough anymore. Especially if it's one of the topics being censored by Google.
With the bots being used to generate content, and bots used to consume content ("driving engagement" as they say), with non-bots becoming the dwindling lower portion of internet traffic, it feels like a closed system that will eventually not need humans.
A few years back I had thought of a sci-fi story that revolved around revealing what ended humanity on earth..
.. not an apocalypse, but rather our own creation that attempted to optimize the economic process until the sub-optimal humans were gently persuaded (through a shift in culture), to cease sustainment.
Anti-procreation and "jusy replace lack of population with more bots".
The end result being a perfectly efficient world that creates and consumes with no real purpose or sentience anymore.
The last humans not even properly buried.. just some ancient bones sitting on a sofa, with dozens of amazon delivery boxes piled up around it.
That story actually makes sense...
I had a similar idea, except humans abandoned the internet because it became so difficult to differentiate the difference between human and AI content, the result creating two separate worlds: the closed circle of AI bots consuming AI generated content, and normal humans who mostly shun the internet as a whole and only use it to interact with people they know are humans and acquire information from trusted sources. I think it's far more likely for humans to return to abandon the digital world for the most part and return to valuing physical objects, face to face connection, manual labor, etc... instead of giving up and dying like you think.
Humans are where the money those robots are after comes from, without us the whole thing would fall apart pretty quickly.
You can always unplug, take a deep breath and swim in a lake. Or go for a walk (barriers permitting).
@@thiccactus But why do people bother creating AI bots if not to influence humans in the end?
The corporatization and normiezation of the Internet
And also the "paywall-ization" because all the user freedom are slowly missing, and you have to constantly paying them only for bringing it back or GTFO, because they are also fighting against any free solution to bring back those missing freedoms (the most recent example is the current YT fight against ad blocker)
@@sihamhamda47 Don't forget that the paid feature is a significantly dumbed down version of the original .
100% this. The normiefication of internet's seemingly every niche has been a disaster..
I've been noticing for about a year or few now, that often if you search for something and scroll a little down through the results, you'll be presented with what I can only describe as fever dream word soup
Yep, I get the same shit, like bits and excerpts of random strings
I've noticed this on TH-cam too. There are a lot of channels lately that do the whole video essay thing, but I can't help but feel like I'm listening to an AI. I've even some videos where I also think the video was AI generated. (Either entirely or with storyblocks.)
All I can say is, it's going to get really weird/bad very soon.
I caught FOX using an AI reporter the other day, I got screenshots, his hairline and his tie are straight cartoon it's hilarious
AI voice isn't a huge deal as long as the actual writing is human made.
Well most of the writing comes from a centralized place like "AP" or "Reuters" which they disseminate the same stories to every news agency across the country, so if anything compromised with the writing it would go through that pipeline. My thoughts are, if they can automate one thing, they;'ll automate it all. I've already been under the assumption that most of the shit on the news is just made up for the most part, I'd say like 40% maybe even higher, it's simply easier for them to dial into the kinds od stories that hit whatever emotion or strategy they seek so why leave it up to chance
@@whyishoudini
@@whyishoudini...any Robovoice is automatically sus of AI.
If not AI, then just laziness on the creators part.
I always send them to the dnr zone. New ones pop up immediately in its place.
The irony is that even TH-camrs feel like robots these days too. They all share the same exact opinions.
The real problem here isn't the existence of advanced AI, but good old greed
Wanting something for nothing has plagued man since the beginning. Using AI content to trick people into thinking it's more valuable than it actually is is just the latest example of this behavior.
Open-source still exists and every developers who make their code Open-source are actual heroes
Open source fixes none of this you show-pony.
Yet another comment with a Reply, that is invisible "or just gone" lol. i disagree honestly. all Open source does is give powerful companies free programs to tweak and use for their benefit. how long until some massive Corp gets an open source like say, Blender, Tweaks it and makes it even better, and charges monthly for it? people will always go to the better option. even if the better option costs money.
@@Glitch-Gremlin My reply was that open source wouldn't fix this problem whatsoever
@@pootispiker2866It would, if it was more used than closed source systems, getting Shitty search results from an open source search engine? just find another one (or make one)
Tired of AI generated articles? Block them from the search results ect ect
@@Glitch-GremlinA lot of Open source programs have a share alike license, that means that any program built off of that code needs to also have the same license, The Problem is not as big as you think it is for most programs.
"The Internet is fine" ...said nobody who has had to engage with the Internet over the last decade. The worst part is how the Internet is crap and it's now leaking into the rest of 'normal' life.
I truly believe that’s the reason why we, at least in the US, are so divided politically and socially. I would wager a bet that many, if not most, arguments and confrontations people get into online are with a bot/human shill account. There’s proof that this happens a lot on social media, and it’s no doubt the main reason behind the feelings of divisiveness that are so ubiquitous nowadays. When you actually get out in the world and talk to people, you realize that the majority of people are still fairly agreeable on most important issues, and if not agreeable then they can respect that someone may have a differing opinion. Obviously there are extremists on both sides, but that number is much smaller in reality than social media and partisan news media makes it out to be.
Majority of the time, I can't properly find what I search for in google search anymore.
Going from browsing the Internet on my phone/computer that has a bunch of extentions that remove most of the crap from the web to using any other computer reminds me of how bad the Internet has gotten, I don't see how people put up with all the shit you have to deal with unless you have extentions to block it all.
@@0psec_not_good It's not just bots, like/karma systems have been shown to cause people to get more defensive and tribalistic about anything they talk about. That's why social media disagreements are so much more of a mess than disagreements on older style forums.
Karma systems and recommendation algorithms are probably enough to cause mass division by themselves, even without bots.
It's really disgusting how proud these people are of ruining not only the internet but other people's websites and careers.
Sociopaths tend to take joy out of manipulating people and destroying lives.
I think the dead internet theory is why I primarily use TH-cam. It's really easy to tell what was shit out by a bot, at least so far.
Its getting worse esp with adblock being targeted..
@@user-zl7bm7bv7pWhile they still continuing to allow any malicious ads, such as AI generated fake Mr Beast giveaway ad, or fake "financial advisor" ads that are linked to a dangerous site which gives you virus or data stealer if accidentally clicked
@@user-zl7bm7bv7p adblo ck still works fine.
and youtube reinstated the 'block channel' feature a while back. use it.
@@user-zl7bm7bv7p It's ok. TH-cam just helped in evolving adblocks. Now they can battle more anti-adblock stuff.
@@user-zl7bm7bv7p depends it just requires a bit more knowledge I found a script on GitHub that blocks adds on TH-cam using a program that allows custom scripts(something TH-cam don't like me naming but it starts with tamper)
No matter how bad the Internet gets the beauty is with enough technically know how anything can be surcomvented
Even the internet is not what it was. I feel pity for those who didn't catch the internet flash era
it's hard to think about it in a bigger context, but thinking about how much it's changed the modern world in 25 years compared to the century of change wrought by the industrial revolution, it's an invention that has seen extreme change, the velocity of which is hard to see decelerate.
Me too. Honestly, I am so glad I got to experience all of 2000's internet era. It was glorious, especially the 2nd half of it. I still have so many memories with my experience on it, while from the last 10 years or so I don't remember shit.
I've probably felt it for a good while, but recently I feels very offput by the internet and my desire to stop using (either as much or even entirely) keeps growing. It feels so hollow, so much junk constantly being shown and suggested, the search engines and functions barely find on what you typed before decaying off topic, ads galore, paywalls, etc. With AI getting more common, the internet is going to unusable.
Honestly, it's a pain to get anything valuable from the Internet now
yeah, ive started not using things at all, sites i have used for years because of things that just seem to be put in place with no regard to or to insult the users, paying or not. time to go back to working on that old neocities, snoop through some new IRC chats, and get usenet, the internet was made to send and recieve information and its harder and harder to do that concisely with modern sites. its all slog and i slog through things alot but slowly replacing them with other things like using the internet to find a book or learn something.
I wish you'd also cover the Medicare/Medicade AI generated ads I'm seeing on TH-cam. They take famous people like Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, The Rock (Dewayne Johnson), Steven Harvey, Tucker Carlson, etc. (I've seen more), and use a quick video clip of them and overlay their voice in A.I. (that sounds convincing) claiming you are entitled to receive thousands of dollars to "pay for your groceries" through a 'super secret' program the government doesn't want you to know about.
Honestly those type of ads can be sued, as it's count as both "possible copyright violation" and "misleading advertisement"
But YT seem to not care about it
The one I keep getting is a fairly convincing Elon Musk telling me I've been selected for a once in a lifetime offer where I'll never have to work again.
I HATE to believe that someone out there actually falls for that Crap, but i know it happens.. my Cousin actually fell for a Scam once, and had she not been at my house when it was happening she'd have got taken for HUNDREDS of dollars. someone called her and said a warrant was out for her Arrest and if she didn't pay the fine over the phone she'd go to Jail. she was literally getting in her car to go to walmart when i was like "Wtf are you doing? do you really believe the Police want Google Play Cards!?" of course the guy on the phone hadn't told her he wanted google play cards yet, but he got legit MAD mad and cursed me out for ruining his scam lol @@MSpotatoes
I once saw an ad where a "trick" was done involving putting a light bulb and an electrical socket in an aquarium of water for some reason...
Needless to say, if TH-cam's ad system wasn't fucked beforehand, it sure as shit is now!
I'm glad to see more people linking the Dead Internet Theory with the rise and massive open source adoption of generative AI, I've done my final paper for one of my uni courses about this and it's just impossible to not see the future being grim because of it. More and more forms of generation keeps coming out and being completely open for ANYONE to use, not only for nefarious purposes but just to make a quick buck.
I'd rather those tools be open and accessible to anyone rather than in the hands of our corrupt elite institutions.
Google just announced Gemini. It's getting worse fast. We need an anti AI internet.
@@Dollique What we need is to just click that X in the upper right corner of the screen and run on the lawns of old folks, or yell at the youngins to stay off our lawns. Even if we're bitter toward people in person, we're at least dealing with people with faces, voices, and, most importantly, flesh.
The opposite is equally terrifying, AI in the hands of only a few psychopathic mega-corps that will maximize human suffering for profit is a horrifying proposition. No the open source path is the lesser evil. The only winning move is not to play.
I miss the age of private forums and a blank page search engine rather than dashboard shit.
Thank you for confirming what I've been suspecting for some time now. I tend to stick to a few familiar websites, and I rarely interact with social media, so I had no idea it was this bad though. I blame the drop in quality on the corporatization of the internet. Mass production/mass consumption is the death of quality (in my opinion).
Nothing is free - and watching Google over the years give one thing while taking away two had to reach a point of no return.
It feels like especially over that last 2 years, large parts of the internet are vanishing. I wonder if they actually did, or if search engines just refuse to give you results that dont make them money.
I say it's a combination of the latter and the rise of AI technologies that became big the moment Dalle-2 happened.
Read the article “Where the Sidewalk Ends- the death of the Internet “ by Josh Moon on zero hedge, he talks about the increasing shrinking of the internet, by design. They always intended for it to be many little Internets, closely monitored and controlled.
That guy seems pretty smart. I sure hope the state-corporate-media apparatus of the entire western world doesn't conspire to destroy him for wrongthink.
@@toby2581assuming he's not just a bot. :/
@@toby2581Not the West! Those guys are terrible. Clearly the East is so much better.
It's become the most horrendous on Twitter, or "x".
Not only are the bots all over the place, but the "engagement baiting" threads, comments and onlyfans shilling is unbearable.
Yeah. I've also noticed a certain style of thumbnail on here where it withholds information from the person looking at it, teasing them in a way. Like, it'll have an arrow pointing to a random dude, saying something like "he did what?" and the dude in the thumbnail probably doesn't even appear in the video. I think it's a really goofy bait technique, but it probably works on a lot of people.
I mean, Elon Musk these days is just a fucking joke...
Thank God I don't Twitter the shitter then!
I miss those old flash animation websites like Homestar Runner, Joe Cartoon, Camp Chaos, and Killfrog. Places where a single creative person used the internet to self publish their art, just because they could. They didn't do it to make money, since those websites were always free, and usually only had ads to help cover hosting fees. They didn't do it to push a message of any sort. They didn't do it to manipulate people. They just wanted to be entertaining.
And, most importantly, it was ART, not CONTENT. It had a purpose beyond just filling space.
We didn't know just how good we had it back then. Or just how badly "Web 2.0" would fuck everything up.
Man i forgot about homestar runner until reading your comment. Now the little soundbites that played when you hovered over different categories on the website is stuck in my head 😅 Storrrrre..... Chawiktooorrss....GAyms
good thing Homestar Runner still exists
Reminds me of the lore behind Cyberpunk. The internet had to be isolated behind a massive firewall, to keep all the ai's running amok from destroying everything.
I suspect part of the push to compel everyone into having digital tags errr IDs is to contain the problem of AI proliferation. Of course there are likely other possibly more nefarious reasons for it too.
We need to talk more about how fun, colourful, diverse and exciting the internet used to be. I mean like in 1995/96/97. It was personal, homepages had all different styles. Now somehow it is all white/lightblue standardised and bland.
Unified mobile-centered style definitely got bland and boring.
Sites like those still exist! They aren’t as popular, but if you look hard enough you can find them.
I mean it was html and very flat looking, but you are right, websites were more unique in that sense.
Anyone who's paid attention to the state of youtube comments either believes in dead internet theory or is in denial
It seems 90% of users have "user-" or random numbers in their username. Even you have random numbers at the end of your username.
What do you mean? everyone ive read in these comments looks real to me, anyway. though now im not so sure.... are *YOU* A BOT!? HOW CAN I KNOW FOR SURE!?
That was done on TH-cam a few months ago. they stopped the "Usernames" people had, like i used to have "Glitch Gremlin" now its @Glitch-Gremlin and had i been unlucky enough to not get this UN id have had to put numbers or something behind it, just to claim it. ive ALWAYS hated that sort of UN Policy. @@SchemingGoldberg
@@Glitch-Gremlin everyone with a number in his name must be a bot
@@googlekopfkind ...Well. It's a fair cop.
disappointed that there wasn't any talk about how big tech companies are falling into this trap as well and have been for the past few years, talking about youtube's adpocalypse situation, the anti-adblock thing that youtube's pulling off, the buying of twitter and the rise of decentralised social media platforms (like masdoton). the fact that any big tech service does not respect your privacy, there are trackers going back to google/meta on almost every single modern site etc etc.
this goes a lot deeper than just AI generated content
The advent of "AI" finally manages to ensure what all the combined human spammers and scammers of the past couldn't achieve yet... the death of the Internet as we knew it.
Not just the internet, humanity. As they suck the $$$ from people who fail to get it, from governments(as governments are run by incompetents and scammers), it effects society. As less people have $$$(because it's being sucked out through inflation, wars, scams, etc) the scammers get more desperate. Capitalism end game = nuclear annihilation or dystopia.
Running full speed towards the final chapter. It was already prewritten.
It's because a Bot doesn't Eat, Sleep, Crap. it just does its "Job"
Steve Jobs and his ease of access given to the masses for the Internet has been the worst thing to happen to it
Great point. It was the influx of vast armies of idiots (vs the olden days when average internet user was rather bright), combined with corporatization, that caused the initial massive enshitification. The SEO and AI and etc. fuckery came later, and are putting the nails in the coffin.
Yep, the internet used to be only for nerds and outcasts, but then all the popular people got on it with smartphones, and yeah that's a wrap
I thought Bill Gates with the Windows computers did that first?
Worst thing to happen to it was making it free. Paying isp's a flat rate for unlimited access was inevitably going to lead to popularity/advertisement chasing, which is why most of the internet is shitty now.
Charging one cent per visit (even though it sounds like aids) would've avoided all of this.
I blame this mostly on smartphones. The internet (and pop culture as a whole in my opinion) peaked in 2007 and has been going downhill since. A lot of things happened in '07 that contributed to the decline of internet culture, it'd take too long to discuss them all but most notably it was the year the first iphone was released. However it wasn't until 2012-ish that they'd truly cemented themselves as a necessity in the public sphere, which evidently was when I noticed internet culture begin to take a sharper decline.
The problem isn't the devices themselves, however. It's the casuals/normies who use them. The general public. The people who back in the 90s would've dismissed the internet as lame, stupid or for nerds. Those who have never known what the old internet was like or understood its culture.
You give these people easy and quick access to the web, a place where they can say and host anything on a variety of different websites. They choose walled garden social media instead, only to end up giving big tech more power. They ruin the web in less than 10 years.
You give them access to all the free media and content they could ever desire, for FREE and uncensored. Instead of pirating they pay monthly fees to multiple low quality streaming services where content is constantly censored, removed or edited to appease the opinions of people who don't even watch it. They ruin the entertainment sector in less than a decade as content providers produce more low effort slop that caters to people who don't even consume it.
You give them hardware more powerful than the computers used to launch spacecraft in the 60s, so small that it can fit in their pocket and with a near constant internet connection. The idiots use it to take pictures of themselves or record short videos of vapid nonsense to share with other normies. They ruin the concept of original content and everyone who produces genuine, high quality work is drowned out or gives up all together.
You give them access to the world's collective knowledge and archives detailing anything and everything one could hope to learn. Instead of reading it, learning from it and bettering themselves, they consume poorly researched articles and opinion pieces that align with their existing opinions and beliefs. Now some go so far as to demand that everything they personally dislike be censored instead of just closing the page and moving on. They incite campaigns for their big tech overlords to deplatform anything they dislike when they don't get their way. It took less than 10 years for them to ruin free speech and the overall quality of online discourse.
tldr; Giving everyone quick, easy access to the internet was a mistake and if you truly love something, gatekeep it viciously.
bingo
This comment hurt, I wish we were still among ourselves 😕
It was a grand time! Forums, discussions, sharing ideas and art, gaming together, watching genuine content - I miss it.
Now everything I write or upload will be used to train Ai who will mindlessly simulate my would-be interactions with other bots. 🥲
I Fought back against getting a Phone up until literally 6 months ago. but i finally had to get one because i could no longer cash my check without having one. "i live too far away to go to the bank every time i gotta cash my check" also everything wants a cell phone number now. i absolutely hate it. but i hardly ever use it, so that's a plus.
This! Exactly. I was on the internet back in 1993, that’s the problem the average non critical thinking human. You know I always get told, well surely someone would have thought of the idea you just stated. I always say, I assure you they would not. Throughout human history it’s been a handful of people that have shaped everything. I’ll never understand how there are so many of us human beings 8 billion, and so few that actually do anything that’s meaningful.
This comment is hilarious. You are just so much more intellectual than most people! So edgy
The amount of random projects that only have one link holding it all together is scary. Whole solutions to major issues seem to be only providing solutions on one website like Reddit, or Twitter.
Absolutely fascinating take on the 'dead internet' theory. It's intriguing to think about how much of our online interactions could be artificial. And ironically, this comment itself is a testament to your point - it was generated by an AI. It really makes you wonder about the authenticity of what we encounter online!
Hey, I too should get an AI to write comments on the videos I watch instead of doing it manually.
Haha the first thing I thought when I read that comment was it was generated by AI. "Absolutely fascinating" is not something anybody would describe this video as.
@@corgis6801why? "Absolutely fascinating" is a pretty common sarcastic comment..
@@morioh6623 yes but I have seen enough bots to recondnise that patern. None of rest of the comment was written in a sarcastic way and those weird positive comments are very common for bots. Maybe you are joking here sorry if I misunderstood the joke.
@@corgis6801 It's interesting isn't it? It almost feels like an emotional response when i read something written by AI. Unless it's a joke/just filler/short words, it's damn near impossible to ignore. Like uncanny valley vibes just from a sentence.
I wonder, did you read a lot as a kid?
AI diarrhea will probably destroy both our IQ and the internet.
AI lacks a creativity and that will be its downfall
A.I. has Infinite Space and Time to grow and better itself. we as Human Beings only have limited time at best. no.. im sorry but this is just the Beginning.
how long until we're in a Literal Terminator movie? all we can hope for is somehow We will be in a Blade Runner Sequel instead, at this point.
I recently got into Cyberpunk Red, and an aspect of that setting I thought was peculiar was how fragmented and compartmenalized the Net is. The wider internet is a deep dark ocean with predatory super AI waiting to fry the brain of any Netrunner who pokes his nose in too far, and all the valuable stuff is on private intranets that you have to be within meters of to hack.
I know mechanically they did this to make Netrunners more on par with the other classes and actually act as a group, but the premise seemed unrealistic to me. Looking more and more plausible every day.
The Internet started as a military *intranet* connection called Alphanet.
Classic real life - the menacing, sad or vulgar fictional predictions come true. The fun ones either don't or take muuuch longer to come around.
I remember hopping from BBS to BBS to share stories and files many years ago. The internet felt like a powerful revolution when it came. Enshittification wasn't even on our radar then because everything of worth was run by fellow nerds who valued the net.
Leave it to capitalists to come and fuck it all up.
@@FlakAttack0government is as much to blame as corporations, the problem is not the economic system, but human nature my friend.
@@FlakAttack0 Capitalism brought it to the masses, communism was busy collapsing under its own failure
Even as a software engineer I've been running into this more and more. Sure, *we* can mostly identify these results, but what happens when most of the results become thrash? Search engines need to implement manual rating (again) and that needs to function on a whitelist basis. We'll need millions of verified people curating the web sooner or later. It's the only way.
Just... holy shit... these statistics... we're all doomed.
As bad as this is, live internet theory has me even more concerned. The organic bots, that can't think critically and or disengage from confirmation bias are much more frightening to me than the digital bots. The digital bots can be reprogrammed or purged with a few keystrokes. Reprogramming the organic bots of the internet is a lot more complicated.
From Facebook and Reddit alone. Just 10yrs ago, they were phenomenal apps. I could keep up with family and friends by scrolling the main page alone (because it used to organized by posting time) on FB. And Reddit used to have news, thoughtful discussions, and socially relevant media. (with very little ads). Now, Facebooks spams a select few friends, ads, and daily bot accounts trying to message me. Reddit used to be informative and relevant, but is now mostly garbage memes, clickbait video/screenshots. Even TH-cam used to give good recommendation. But now, it's garbage, repeating, irrelevant recommendations. It's all so much worse.
Greed leads to inevitable downfall of any enterprise.
I heard from somewhere that if you use yt with history turned off it gives very good result, though I didn't test it myself cause I haven't had the time to do it.
I think I might get a few good recommendations from TH-cam, but I think it is because I also fucked with the algorithm. Mostly because I would randomly search for an old video I remembered liking. That then causes it to recommend me some older videos instead of current videos. So it "might" randomly recommend me something new and novel. Unfortunately it also recommends me old news that I have already seen as well.
The decentralized platforms, ActivityPub (consisting of Lemmy, Mastodon, etc.) and Bluesky, are attempts to revive the small web spaces, and aren't full replacements to popular products, only to supplement them.
I found the key to keeping YT tolerable has been:
Maintaining separate accounts for separate interests, because the recommendation algo is really bad at balancing multiple completely different fields of interest.
Checking your watch history frequently and purging the stuff you didn't actually watch. You'd be amazed how much random garbage ends up in there, shaping your future recommendations.
Ruthless use of the "don't recommend channel" option. And I do mean RUTHLESS! Don't hesitate to condemn an entire channel based on a single sufficiently trashy thumbnail/video title. Watch the algorithm panic as it has to look further and further afield for enough garbage to populate your feed, until eventually it gives up and serves you something new and potentially interesting in stead.
I remember the internet before it was all commercialized and it was like the wild West. Those were the real days of the internet. (Late 90s/early 00s)
Any one else miss the Wild West days of TH-cam without all the censorship and moderation?
Id say its got a lot more stuff then what it used to have
Everyone misses things before the spam started and then the anti-spam started.
Social media has ruined everything
This is not what enshittification means. It's a very specific form of platform decay. Coined by Cory Doctorow, very well known, there're multiple talks and like wikipedia article on the subject.
It's sort of related - when it happens to Google or any other web middleman it's exactly Cory Doctorow's enshittification.
As a techncial writer, I do a lot of online rersearch. Noticed years ago that people copied and repeated the same crap over and over...
I'm about 90% sure the bio of "Drew" is based off one of mine, the name is even an abbreviation of my full first name "Andrew". I work as a product review writer, and often mention how I grew up on a farm and spend a lot of time outdoors hiking anf backpacking. I feel like I should sue for plagiarism!
honestly they are just gonna close up shop and open a new website, heck the website that shows that profile is on wayback machine.
People cn just make a 100 website and do the same thing again again and again. Its bs
Government overreach into how you use the internet is coming
What could go wrong?
Source?
@@andersonrusnell3102 check out the upcoming American, Canadian, U.K. & EU Internet laws
You people always asking for sources are so lazy
Search results have become unusable.
I deleted most of my social media accounts last year. The internet hasn't been good since the mid 2010's.
i've recently been in a spiral of watching videos about social media being generally not good for most people and gaining an interest in the old web and old computers. I've become more and more jaded recently by the internet as a whole, and i think this video is possibly the nail in the coffin for me. going to explode everything with my mind now
The best decision I've made in the past few years is to stop using social media all together. Life is so much better now I can't even describe how much of a waste of time social media was. Firstly I just stopped using Facebook and gradually, my phone usage has reduced to the point of just using it to make phone calls and listen to music. People are missing out on living in the real life. It's hilarously sad how much people are addicted to their phones everywhere, even when said people go outside they still spend a lot of time on their phones rather enjoying going outside.
I'm not you so I don't know what's happening to you, my advice is to just reduce using technology in general and spend time with other human beings in real life, not any human being but a human that also wants to live, because I encounter a lot of humans thag might as well be npcs. As they don't do stuff because they want to, but because said activities are viewed as fun or everyone else is doing it, so the do what they do even if it isn't inherently enjoyable or useful.
While it's great to know about these sorts of things, in order to avoid having an existential crisis (or just giving up completely because what's even the point if the world continues in this direction), what tf can we do to stop this? Or at the very least push back?
Something something decentralization something something mastadon something something crypto
@@realericanderson I'd sooner invest in gold than digital credits that can get wiped at any time.
The internet can't be fixed anymore
The best we can do is increase and improve our offline interactions
@@realericanderson something something yes something something no something something definitely not.
Maybe this is out of left-field, but I think the solution is *childhood education* and if you follow I'll try to explain.
Why are people creating seo-stealing/enshittified internet content? Because they are motivated to do so.
There is a process which encourages people to seek high seo rankings, regardless of whether they have anything valuable to share with the world. This process is:
1. Ads seem to give advertisers influence over people's spending habits; people are not resilient to ads
2. The more people spend attention on an ad, the more influence that ad has over people's spending habits
3. Lots of people spend their attention on the internet
4. Companies are incentivized to advertise on the internet
5. Companies want to maximize the portion of the internet featuring their ads
6. It isn't trivial to get your ads all over the internet, hence there's a market for middleman companies which specialize in propagating a client company's ads to as many sites as possible
7. These middleman companies compete by offering "better" advertisement reach for their clients
8. A good strategy to get "better" advertisement reach is by incentivizing arbitrary sites to feature client ads
9. This incentivization is implemented by paying arbitrary sites money in proportion for ad presence (clicks, views, etc.) on those sites
10. Pretty much any individual uses a single specific search provider to help them browse the internet
11. Search providers are incentivized to compete for users
12. A primary way in which search providers compete is by providing "better" search results
13. "Better" results are produced by developing and fine-tuning some seo algorithm
14. Higher seo rankings increase the number of site visitors
15. Number of site visitors increase ads presence on that site, which in turn increases site owner's profits
16. Profit motivates site owners to improve their seo ranking (irrespective of the value of their site)
I believe that if any of these points were disrupted, we'd see the beginning of a dis-enshittification. Unfortunately almost all these points seem grounded in unalterable human nature/psychology.
I always thought that points #1 and #2 seemed the most fragile. If it were my life goal to help de-enshittify the internet, I would probably start by campaigning for education boards to include something like an "ad awareness" class in schools, especially elementary schools. Imagine if kids had a strong awareness of advertising, and the fallacies exploited by advertisers? Imagine if the average individual, when looking at an ad, reflexively had thoughts like: "this ad uses bright colours to grab my attention", "this ad uses enthusiastic language in exploit me into feeling enthusiastic about the featured product", "this ad displays an attractive model to confuse me into thinking that owning the product will make me attractive", etc. I personally suspect that the influence of all ads could be diminished with some education. Making people resilient to ads is in my opinion achievable, and would bite the head off the snake of causality which enshittifies the internet. I actually think it could have an enormously positive downstream effect - how much money do people regret spending, due to exploitative ads? Probably a lot. Making people resilient to this could be such a good thing. And it could reduce the gap between a product's value and its perceived value - also a good thing.
the internet used to feel like a home cooked three course meal and now it just feels like fast food or a bag of greasy chips.
I gotta admit, the "majority of the internet is bots" thing kinda rings true for me, there are NUMEROUS channels that most of the comments are just fawning over the creator and nothing of any substance.
I was wondering this with The Why Files channel. It is indeed a good channel if you’re interested in the paranormal, but the vast majority of comments are just gushing praise
@@ragnakak it might have something to do with TH-cam suppressing stuff too
A.I. and it's consequences have been a disaster to the human race.
It's only the beginning.
Oh just you wait, sug
Lol. Did you know that AI can be used to detect cancer or other illneses? Did you know that we are already using it for making new antibiotics? There is a lot more than just generative ai, start reading, no point of being grim.
thanks for calling attention to this topic. Ive actually seen many of the twitter threads you mentioned in the video but i never put 2 and 2 together with regards to the downstream impact on the internet. Its really wild thinking that 60%+ of internet traffic is bot traffic.... had no idea it was that high already.
There should be a plugin for browsers to filter out ai generated pages, similar to the indie wiki plugin you can get that removes fandom wikis
This is genuinely the first thing that made me want AI generation to be deleted from the internet
It's hard for me to pinpoint what exactly made me despise this crap more the moment it reared its ugly head. I was already overwhelmed with the realization of how many things it'll ruin, and yet I'm still getting surprised occasionally just how much of a bad idea this crap is.
@@crepooscul I think it was either when AI tried to do NFT shit or when an AI piece won an art award that one time years ago.
The internet used to be lawless and it was then when it was best. Its been incorporated and like any corporation the fake advertising was a contagion and destroyed it. Id say peak internet was around 2005-2010 but like with everything that's been dumbed down to be sold to the masses it eventually destroys what made it cool to begin with. I'm 41 and started on bulletin board systems and to see it what it is now is just depressing. Some things are better but the pursuit of making it "Better" it destroyed it along the way.
To top it off, we also have a linguistic problem. Everything is "content" now.
You know what's weirdly the last bastion of forums? Car enthusiasts. Go search a specific question about your car, you'll find some guy on a forum called " Fans" or similar asking it. Not Reddit, individual enthusiast forums.
I used to work in the front office of a mechanic shop and I'd research weird issues the mechanics didn't know how to address off hand. Every car, I stfg, has an enthusiast forum with people taking great pride in their car, whether it's a Honda Civic or whatever luxury car.
I don't have an overall point to make here it's just an interesting phenomenon. Reddit, socials, and Discord absorbed so many things, but not people who really love their cars (not entirely anyway)
PS Idk if this applies to Teslas or other EVs, we didn't service those.
And I now this is tangential to the video content, I saw some people in the comments talking about it
Now I am questioning if this video was made by AI
I think that this drop in CONTENT quality is just one aspect of Enshitification. The broader definition being something like a reduction in service quality and features, often accompanied by increases in cost.
Things like over-monetization of previously-free or low-ad features such as paid netflix with ads, or a dozen small ads completely covering up a 3-paragraph web "article," or seeing 25 ads and random content between any post from someone you subscribe to on Facebook, or 2 pages of sponsored links on Google before you get to actual site links (and even those are often not the content you were actually looking for).
Enshittening is creeping into other industries as well, such as charging for heated car seats, or removing an extended range addon for your EV when you sell it to someone
10:40 Their really should be a Tool that Identifies if the website or content is AI generated or not based off of the Link itself. To counteract the whole AI takeover thing.
The think with AI is that it doesn't have an obvious mark that say "this is ai generated".
It certainly looks like a market niche for a URL or domain level filter that removes known bot generated sites.
Might be a good project for a Pi-hole.
edit: i recall an ai that has a good hit-rate for detecting ai generated content
internet was great when it only was for us nerds. when the hordes of casual users and mentally ill ppl joined to get a voice, it became a threat to world peace.
More like it became a publc outhouse.
You can thank smart phones for that. People didn't really browse it back when PCs were the way to do it, but with smartphones and social media combo, it has gone to absolute diarrhea dogshit. Ease of access caused masses of low intelligence lemmings to join it, who are a source of scam encouragement, clickbait enablers and opportunistic hype salesmen. And they create drama at every step, so many of them are poised to ruin your day, to witch hunt you with their petty little dramas. I won't deny that smartphones have some nice uses with their multitasking capabilities, but it wasn't worth the destruction of the internet at large.
I noticed when google changed their algorithm, but what's sad is when I asked other people, including tech savy people, no one else noticed. Thought I was insane until youtube did the same thing. I was born in '82, I had internet from aol 1.0 and computers in the 80's before most people, especially my peers. The whole thing is so sad.
Leave all the fake social media 💩. Feel much better. 👍
Can relate as someone who never had accounts there.
People fill the internet with trash instead of filling it with good things
Where are all our Myspace pictures?
it's not farfetched at all. just think about what has happened to phone calls in US. how many robo-calls one get daily. when bots get involved they can drown out everything "natural".
I sometimes search something, click on the first result that pops up, and mindlessly parous through the page for a few seconds before realizing that what I'm reading is complete garbage babble, with contradiction sentences right next to each other, and not a shred of any useful information relating to my original query.
Anyone else has had the same experience?
For about 10 years.
I cannot wait for the technological feedback loop, if we aren't already in it of course. So many 'algorithms' doing who knows what as little bits and pieces of the internet. One part tracks user data, another pushes content based on that data, another harvests that data, so on and so forth until the silicon valley version of the game 'telephone' is complete, and a bot has suggested bot services to another bot that then shares that content with another bot that then prompts a generative ai to make more content based on that bot's reaction, providing more content for bots to bot on. bot. Hilarious.
Maybe people will get fed up with AI generated spam and finally go out and touch the grass?
Also increasing amount of content is being concentrated on fewer sites held by megacorporations while legacy content is being lost for good.
It's an absolute graveyard of lost content and dead links. Go to any legacy forum that operated in 2005. If they still exist, every single link to embedded media or to a different website is dead. The content is gone for good, and no historian can ever retrieve it if it's not been archived.
Every day that goes by the more I’m convinced that the internet was a mistake
The privatization of the internet was the mistake. The internet was created by DARPA and funded with tax payer money, then the infrastructure was just handed over to private corporations
It was and still is.
It wasn't always a mistake, but it was consigned to become trash virtue of more and more people browsing it because of smartphones.
We've come along way from getting NBA Jam codes off AOL
Great video, agree with most of the points, but stats about "humans only make 40% of Internet traffic" at around 2:30 are kinda deceptive without context.
Web crawlers (although they were indeed mentioned) are bots, but are used by and for humans every time you search something in Google. This is not scary, it is just automation.
Various useful bots, like Discord bots, Telegram bots, Reddit bots, various forums' bots, are also used by humans and (mostly) serve humans. They is not scary.
Accessing APIs, whether via aforementioned bots or by software, is also used by and for humans. Nothing weird here either.
When it comes to "harmful" bots, while being bad, it is still not anything dystopian.
DDoS attacks are simply spamming requests. 1 million users might generate less natural traffic than a few thousand machines might maliciously spam servers - it is not bots pretending to be human, nor bots overtaking humans, just spamming a lot to deny service.
Spam/ad bots, being the most spooky in this list, are still just bots spamming your email or dms, most of the times clearly being a bot - bad, but not "bots are taking over" bad.
At least that was the case before LLMs became the mainstream. I still don't believe that most of stuff you see is AI generated, but the ratio of bot content to human content has definitely shifted.
Hm 🤔
I'm from the 92, and I'm not from the US. I just wanted to say that the internet, or should I say all of you, all the people around the globe, somehow raised part of me. Part of the way I think, getting into meaningless fights and arguments, and part of the reason I was able to understand a fair amount of English just by trying to communicate with people around the world. Thanks to that I broke the glass bird cage that each culture locks you in when you're not exposed to other ways of thinking other than your own culture.
Some say we were born too late to explore the seas and too early to explore the stars, but I want to add that --we were born just in time to explore the internet, which was hella fun I tell ya.
If you got tired of the intrusive propaganda and have decided to quit (most) of social media because of trash content and the enshitification of the internet. You might feel peace, but that freedom to explore the internet is pretty much gone, and yes, Reddit does not fill that void, never will. To all of you who feel the same way I salute you friend, we both know it was great, but like everything in life good things also come to an end. I'm sorry for the new generations, shet is bad boys, and it'll get much worse I'm afraid, not wonder depression rates are so high. We are pretty much living a cyberpunk dystopia but without all the cool stuff.
Thank you for reading all this rambling, I came back to this video after being in my balcony looking at the night sky while thinking about how the earlier years of the internet influenced my life.
Appreciate the step by step guides on how to escape the mediocrity of being a 9 to 5 office worker through prompt writing. But seriously...as someone who works in digital marketing and SEO this stuff hits close to home. Many marketing careers have become redundant as a single efficient prompt writer can churn out content orders of magnitude faster than a fully staffed department. Why pay a team to generate quality content if one prompt writer can just spam their way to higher SERPs rankings? Being on the first results page is all that matters anyways. Who needs these marketing nerds?
Great video.
Well with the advent of Automation AI , the dead internet theory is plausible.
I legit dont care if Im talking to bots or not, you could be a bot, what changes, nothing.
Social discourse being dictated by a powerful few
Who create a fake majority that all share a belief
And steer society in their desired direction
@@slimynautonly a bot would say that 🤷
@@slimynautWould you care if he was a spam bot?
@@slimynaut Worse the bot could be anyone of us , it could be you , it could be ME , it could even be..
I’ve wondered am I just growing up more or has the internet changed? Am I just stick in old ways and old sites that are going downhill and have yet to find the new gems? I remember the old internet, finding all kinds of blogs and fascinating articles…. I don’t even remember how. I guess Google actually delivered relevant search results? Now it’s quite hard it seems to find new blogs and information. It’s not impossible but it’s not easy… dang, it’s really crazy now that I’m thinking of it. Yeah back in the day I used to find all these cool blogs and random sites. Now places like Reddit are more censored with certain topics being not exactly allowed. Google just shows you AI articles and approved website articles. Etc. weird. It’s like we passed a golden age of information and now it’s more ai and censored and robotic than before.
Edit: or is it just me? I don’t know. Interesting take though.
The line between "helpful' and 'hatmful' bots can becomed blurred. There are 'customer assistance' bots whose primary purpose is to discourage consumers and get them to go away. They can also demand personal information for sale to third parties, and extend the time spent waiting for a human operator so they can bombard you with ads.
Where there is profit to be had, it will be sought.
Authenticity and real youtubers will become a rarity, and, more valuable.