I ran into this situation in the 1970s when I bought a Volkswagen Scirocco. I was accustomed to doing a lot of simple maintenance and tune-ups myself, rather than pay a dealer to do it. I found that to access the timing mark I needed a special tool. I went to the VW dealer and tried to purchase the tool, but was told that it was proprietary, and was only available to VW authorized repair shops! I have friends who are farmers (serious farmers, not hobby farmers) and I know about the necessity for being able to fix things NOW instead of having to take it to a dealer! I am 100% behind the farmers!
After I heard about this we dumped every green machine we had on the farm except for an old baler which we rebuilt a few seasons ago. We bought older Case and Massey units, downsized our operation just a bit but we proved you sure as hell don’t need gps and cranky electronics.
Just like cellphone manufacturers, Deere is trying to make sure that you will never actually own anything you buy because everything is proprietary and even though you think you own it, you can't fix anything unless Deere does it. Right to repair is a must!!!
There are plenty of options to buy in other tractor brands. Just around me there are around five tractor and equipment brands being sold. Pretty soon the only thing green in the fields will be the crops.
I am glad that's true for you but some parts of the USA its not. Some area's only have one farm equipment dealer close by. Other dealers will be hours away.
@Khalifrio I'm in a rather small city with some agriculture around. Other areas of the country have much more ag than here, so it surprises me that the dealerships are that low in quantity. It's counterintuitive, but it is what it is. I wonder if there are fewer land owners in your area with larger holdings than here. That's just a wild guess.
The fewer computers the better, fix up your old equipment and keep it. There's a lot to be said for the Amish way of doing things. To hell with all the corporate greed! So in the end it's cheaper to keep her! We need to go back to smaller farms and smaller equipment that's easier to fix or feed it hay instead of fuel.
Yes Farmers should have the right to be able to repair their own equipment without the manufacturer of that equipment sticking their nose and Farmers business wanting more money. I'm not a farmer but I believe in the American Farmer, without them America would be hard pressed to survive!!!
Reminds me of IBM and personal computers in the early to mid 80's. They tried to screw their customers with royalties for proprietary technology. The result was the cheaper competitors developed their own specs and made it open source 😊to anyone. Customers migrated to the competitor and IBM which had 80% of the market at one point ended up with none. Those who don't learn from history get to repeat it.
I’ve got a small John Deere tractor that has a recall on it. Parts were supposed to start coming in , October. I haven’t heard a word from them other than the recall and I’m not supposed to use it. Still have payments. I wonder if they have, John Deere, a buy back policy???
This could have easily been handled by making John Deere solely liable for any and all crop losses by equipment failure. Large scale outages or recalls could also be worthy of investigation for futures manipulation. That kind of risk and responsibility would make the MBA dude-bros at John Deere collectively squeal like pigs.
FUnny thing is EV cars are moving towards this same nonsense, but the sycophants that support it don't see the issue. There is 0 value in owning something that you can't fix yourself.
I live in the middle of big farm country, I hear about this a lot. I’m not a farmer but play farming simulator and won’t but a Deere even in the game.😂
I have a John Deere tractor for almost four years now. Love the company, love the tractor, love my dealership Kern Machinery with Andy and Danny always there to help me out. I haven’t had any issues with my tractor ever breaking down. I am a small farmer that just sells organic eggs. I do not own large tractors or implements that the big time farmers use. However what is currently going on is not fair to these farmers. I am hoping that the CEO changes his mind and takes these farmers seriously. If not John Deere could be in for some financial Hard Times. Hoping John Deere does what’s right and supports the farmers that feed you Billions of Dollars each and every year. If not surely John Deere will be the looser and there completion could Run Them Over. Watch out for those large tractor tires John Deere. Think about this, drop your pride , and support all your farming customers that have made John Deere BILLIONS OF DOLLARS...🚜 🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜
I really like it when big corporations hurt themselves for profit and forget who brought them to their success. Farmers made them rich and they can also make them more humble.
My ❓as an ex- farmer is that except for the use of planter's and sprayers with High Tech, can John Deere convince me that With the latest technologies in their combines, that they yield better samples than 50 yrs ago❓ Their tractors with ALL the High Tech gizmo's can turn out more acres per hour, on less Fuel, I'm speaking on a HP/HP basis & over 50 yrs❓
Have the legislation pass the same laws with an alternative of having that IP stuff left off their equipment if they want to sell them into the market.
John Deere put computer sensors on everything on their tractors. If something minor occurs the computer makes the tractor inoperable until the problem is fixed and the computer is reset. The problem is, only a John Deere service person can reset the computer. So even if the farmer fixes the minor problem, he can't use his tractor until the computer is reset. If the tractors simply had a way to reset the computer using the tractor's monitor and keyboard, farmers wouldn't need to wait for, and pay, a John Deere service person to do it.
One man at the top that doesn't understand the beginnings of John Deere 100 years ago comes up with a great idea to squeeze the very people that had loyalty to it for the sake of the value of it's stock. Four years ago I purchased a new 2032 because I sold my 4115 that never failed to my son. Knowing what I know now, I would not buy John Deere. Sadly I am disappointed. I purchased my first John Deere because dad told me to. He understood the faith that Deere had during the depression and lent farmers money to purchase their equipment. The CEO, the man at the top should read a bit about the history of this once great company loyal to the people it served with great equipment.
ah its not JUST jhon deer, 2 years ago i had a problem with the steering wheel adjustment on my fendt, my mechanik told me they need to change the entire part and it would cost me 5000$ just for the part without work. got home, took a screw driver and opened the plastic, turnd the locking screw a quarter turn and everything was fixed. the next time i got to that mechanic i asked him if he remembers that problem and that i fixed it in under 5 minutes and that this was the last fendt that i bought for my farm...lucky me that i am, there was a representative from fendt in that shop, he asked me what the problem was and i just told him to F off and he and his plastic tractor can go to where the pepper grows
Our farm still uses 40 and 50 year old international harvester tractors, they work just fine even in modern farm practices, we found there is little benifit in upgrading.
THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT TO REPAIR THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT. THE COCT TO REPAIR IS THROUGH THE ROOF IN THIS COUNTRY. JOHN DEER IS TRYING TO DICTATE TO THE FARMER AND RANCHER. THEY HAVE STEP OUT OBOUNDS.THEY SHOULD A A MARKET SHAREFOR THIS ACTION
keep in mind that im not a farmer and i know this is easier said than done but John Deer isn’t the only manufacturer that produces farm equipment, I would dump all my JD equipment and then switch to a different brand.
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How did the management chit in their own nest turning it from an icon to a bygone. Mad.
When do farmers swap to alternative brands that allows right to repair and when do content creators start revealing those alternatives to clueless farmers?
COMPETITION WILL LEAD TO JOHN DEERE DOWNFALL/CORP GREED AT THE HEART OF ALL THERE PROBLEMS/CROP PRICES DO SUPPORT DEERES STEEP PRICES/GOOD BUY DEERE/TIME TO BE REORGANIZED INTO A COMPANY RUN BY FARMERS
Buy Case International tractors and equipment. Maybe John Deere would get the drift of the farmers concerns. You can only go to the well so many times before it dries up..
I know for a fact they sold faulty lawnmowers that were catching fire and not honoring warranties.3 of the same model riding mowers burnt to the ground in our area and all 3 got the run around from both the seller of the mower and John deere themself. The seller stated it was a John deere warranty issue and John deere would argue that it was the warranty of the seller to repair or replace the unit. I wouldn't buy a John deere broom if they made them and honestly would like to see them go belly up and Case and New Holland take their place.
The right to repair is a monumental fight with a greedy bully. More power to the farmers! John Deere will eventually lose as agriculture equipment gradually changes from green & yellow to other colors. Don't think this issue does not affect your grocery bill!
I think it sucks, but the truth is in the last 6 months their stock price has gone up 28% so it seems nothing is really happening other than maybe a lot of mumbling and bitching.
Many good companies are on hard times due to CEOs who are greedy and only care about stock price and not the quality of the product, Boeing aircraft corporation, John Deere, and many others with greedy CEOs! By by!
John Deere moved to Canada and became litigious. I'm not going to type out a long testimonial. Just going to say I was done with them 2 decades ago. I used to be a fan but sold all the John Deere merch I had collected and even some that were gifts. Own Kabota and a Valtra now.
The answer is actually simple. If you don't like John Deere and their policies, don't buy John Deere equipment. If enough farmers boycott John Deere they will have to either change their greedy ways, or go bankrupt. Also, although profit may be less, using older, less computerized equipment which is more easily maintained and repaired, would at least insure that equipment is available when it is needed for harvests etc. Yes, this may well mean more hours of work to accomplish tasks, but at least they will be done, and not put off and put off until too late by a company which cares more about their profits than their customers. Being a farmer has never been easy, The promises made of making it easy by John Deere are proving to be a Devil's bargain. Time to accept that John Deere has been consumed by the sin of greed, and now encourages and preys on the sin of sloth, and turn to less corrupted companies, or just use and maintain older equipment from the days when John Deere was an honorable company. Let them either reform themselves or go broke.
And since John Deere is no longer the patents that John Hill have would be under and John Deere can't use them in Mexico because it's a US patent all the farmers should buy John Deere stock and buy them out
Corporate Greed, first you real them in, then once you have them on the hook you start implementing changes, once you have complete Control like they do, what are these farmers to do, I say sue the company however that does not help the farmers with equipment they need every day. I hope the CEO gets fired and they get someone in there to run the company that can balance profits with common sense because these guy doesn't have either.
Transparency and getting off your ass!!! Launch a new campaign! Talk to the local farmer and see what they want! Actually record thier responces . Analyze and correct the problems! Thier tractors and equipment is second to none but the secrecy has to stop. The farmers are more than upset, they are screaming at you. Go public about what you are doing and why!!!! You don't need to be told, but get rid off the problems farmers are facing! Adjust your policies or face political, emotional, and the end of how farmers and construction companies will proceed in the future! Make your products and America great again! Failure is not an option!!!! Thankyou
I ran into this situation in the 1970s when I bought a Volkswagen Scirocco. I was accustomed to doing a lot of simple maintenance and tune-ups myself, rather than pay a dealer to do it. I found that to access the timing mark I needed a special tool. I went to the VW dealer and tried to purchase the tool, but was told that it was proprietary, and was only available to VW authorized repair shops! I have friends who are farmers (serious farmers, not hobby farmers) and I know about the necessity for being able to fix things NOW instead of having to take it to a dealer! I am 100% behind the farmers!
After I heard about this we dumped every green machine we had on the farm except for an old baler which we rebuilt a few seasons ago. We bought older Case and Massey units, downsized our operation just a bit but we proved you sure as hell don’t need gps and cranky electronics.
Just like cellphone manufacturers, Deere is trying to make sure that you will never actually own anything you buy because everything is proprietary and even though you think you own it, you can't fix anything unless Deere does it. Right to repair is a must!!!
I believe jd is one of the most corrupt companies in the US
Any company that puts "short-term profits" above customer satisfaction will collapse.
point.
Buy BUY
Deere moving some production to Mexico didn't make friends either
I have a John Deere tractor, but if I have to buy a new one it will not be a John Deere!
Auto manufacturers doing the same. Software prevents independent repair.
There are plenty of options to buy in other tractor brands. Just around me there are around five tractor and equipment brands being sold.
Pretty soon the only thing green in the fields will be the crops.
I am glad that's true for you but some parts of the USA its not. Some area's only have one farm equipment dealer close by. Other dealers will be hours away.
@Khalifrio I'm in a rather small city with some agriculture around. Other areas of the country have much more ag than here, so it surprises me that the dealerships are that low in quantity. It's counterintuitive, but it is what it is.
I wonder if there are fewer land owners in your area with larger holdings than here. That's just a wild guess.
John Deere the farmers made you, they will also break you. Yall did this to yourself. The farmers will finish this story.
Farmers are like elephants, they never forget.
Yeah, but slow as hell to learn this is been going on for a long time
Yes you will, just take a look to the guy you put as president 😂😂😂, definitely that guy loves uneducated people
Paint your tractors blue. Cover every logo. Totally erased John Deere.
All junk for decades
I'm shopping for a new tractor right now and won't even consider JD.
The fewer computers the better, fix up your old equipment and keep it. There's a lot to be said for the Amish way of doing things. To hell with all the corporate greed! So in the end it's cheaper to keep her! We need to go back to smaller farms and smaller equipment that's easier to fix or feed it hay instead of fuel.
Yes Farmers should have the right to be able to repair their own equipment without the manufacturer of that equipment sticking their nose and Farmers business wanting more money. I'm not a farmer but I believe in the American Farmer, without them America would be hard pressed to survive!!!
Reminds me of IBM and personal computers in the early to mid 80's. They tried to screw their customers with royalties for proprietary technology. The result was the cheaper competitors developed their own specs and made it open source 😊to anyone. Customers migrated to the competitor and IBM which had 80% of the market at one point ended up with none. Those who don't learn from history get to repeat it.
This sort of gives new meaning to the term "Dear John letter".
The core problem here is monopoly enterprise. We need our businesses to have robust competition so this won't happen.
I’ve got a small John Deere tractor that has a recall on it. Parts were supposed to start coming in , October. I haven’t heard a word from them other than the recall and I’m not supposed to use it. Still have payments. I wonder if they have, John Deere, a buy back policy???
Small tractors aren't even built by John deere.
This could have easily been handled by making John Deere solely liable for any and all crop losses by equipment failure. Large scale outages or recalls could also be worthy of investigation for futures manipulation. That kind of risk and responsibility would make the MBA dude-bros at John Deere collectively squeal like pigs.
FUnny thing is EV cars are moving towards this same nonsense, but the sycophants that support it don't see the issue. There is 0 value in owning something that you can't fix yourself.
I live in the middle of big farm country, I hear about this a lot. I’m not a farmer but play farming simulator and won’t but a Deere even in the game.😂
My Jeep Wrangler is sitting in my carport now with electronic trouble that I can't afford to take to the Jeep dealer....
I have a John Deere tractor for almost four years now. Love the company, love the tractor, love my dealership Kern Machinery with Andy and Danny always there to help me out. I haven’t had any issues with my tractor ever breaking down. I am a small farmer that just sells organic eggs. I do not own large tractors or implements that the big time farmers use. However what is currently going on is not fair to these farmers. I am hoping that the CEO changes his mind and takes these farmers seriously. If not John Deere could be in for some financial Hard Times. Hoping John Deere does what’s right and supports the farmers that feed you Billions of Dollars each and every year. If not surely John Deere will be the looser and there completion could Run Them Over. Watch out for those large tractor tires John Deere. Think about this, drop your pride , and support all your farming customers that have made John Deere BILLIONS OF DOLLARS...🚜 🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜
I really like it when big corporations hurt themselves for profit and forget who brought them to their success. Farmers made them rich and they can also make them more humble.
Never mess with the farmers, they will always win, and how dare you think otherwise.
These issues go beyond just farming. Many states have Right to Repair laws. Yet, the state AGs have no backbone to sue.
Face it guys john deere wants to pay less to build their tractors but you will not see a price reduction
You own nothing. Starts with big tech software, phones, cars, ….
What effects farmers effects only people who eat and wear cloths.
Boycott John Deer.
I come from a long line of farmers but JD needs to pay for this B.S. ! They need you more than you need them!
send john deer a dear john letter
Bottom line is John Deere got greedy
Did Bill Gates off the board of directors and sue sue sue
I have one word black rock
All the electronic devices must be removed from farm equipment, it has destroyed the truck and auto products.
exactly.
Yes you got that right Peace out
My ❓as an ex- farmer is that except for the use of planter's and sprayers with High Tech, can John Deere convince me that With the latest technologies in their combines, that they yield better samples than 50 yrs ago❓ Their tractors with ALL the High Tech gizmo's can turn out more acres per hour, on less Fuel, I'm speaking on a HP/HP basis & over 50 yrs❓
Stop using John deer stop buying anything from John deer. Lets see how long they stay in business
FJD
hope to see everything better in life.
Most small farmers do not buy new John Deere tractors and gear.
The new young people working on cars etc, now know a lot about getting past what these terrible companies traps so you can work on your own stuff.
Case International..Red not Green..
Have the legislation pass the same laws with an alternative of having that IP stuff left off their equipment if they want to sell them into the market.
Do not support JD. Simple. Go back and farm without computers. Use your own brains.
They want you to buy them but not operate them
Farmers should buy them out,issue shares which enable share holders move on when they no longer need its services.
its the same you see whats happing by Boeing,former a ingeneir relaeted company now only money cares and you see now what happens !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Deere put computer sensors on everything on their tractors. If something minor occurs the computer makes the tractor inoperable until the problem is fixed and the computer is reset. The problem is, only a John Deere service person can reset the computer. So even if the farmer fixes the minor problem, he can't use his tractor until the computer is reset. If the tractors simply had a way to reset the computer using the tractor's monitor and keyboard, farmers wouldn't need to wait for, and pay, a John Deere service person to do it.
One man at the top that doesn't understand the beginnings of John Deere 100 years ago comes up with a great idea to squeeze the very people that had loyalty to it for the sake of the value of it's stock. Four years ago I purchased a new 2032 because I sold my 4115 that never failed to my son. Knowing what I know now, I would not buy John Deere. Sadly I am disappointed. I purchased my first John Deere because dad told me to. He understood the faith that Deere had during the depression and lent farmers money to purchase their equipment. The CEO, the man at the top should read a bit about the history of this once great company loyal to the people it served with great equipment.
Allem! Case, John D, not so much Cat since their dirt moving customers made it clear they wouldn't tolerate useless automation they couldn't bypass.
This video could be much shorter if the statements were not made three times, and I hate AI voice overs.
Agco not A G C O, AI is not as smart as it thinks it is.
ah its not JUST jhon deer, 2 years ago i had a problem with the steering wheel adjustment on my fendt, my mechanik told me they need to change the entire part and it would cost me 5000$ just for the part without work. got home, took a screw driver and opened the plastic, turnd the locking screw a quarter turn and everything was fixed. the next time i got to that mechanic i asked him if he remembers that problem and that i fixed it in under 5 minutes and that this was the last fendt that i bought for my farm...lucky me that i am, there was a representative from fendt in that shop, he asked me what the problem was and i just told him to F off and he and his plastic tractor can go to where the pepper grows
Our farm still uses 40 and 50 year old international harvester tractors, they work just fine even in modern farm practices, we found there is little benifit in upgrading.
Buy case or massey Ferguson and to hell with John dear ( expensive)
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learn to spell
THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT TO REPAIR THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT. THE COCT TO REPAIR IS THROUGH THE ROOF IN THIS COUNTRY. JOHN DEER IS TRYING TO DICTATE TO THE FARMER AND RANCHER. THEY HAVE STEP OUT OBOUNDS.THEY SHOULD A A MARKET SHAREFOR THIS ACTION
Let talk about bayer Monsanto, simplot now
NOBODY CAN TELL ANY COMPANY WHAT TO DO
keep in mind that im not a farmer and i know this is easier said than done but John Deer isn’t the only manufacturer that produces farm equipment, I would dump all my JD equipment and then switch to a different brand.
How did the management chit in their own nest turning it from an icon to a bygone. Mad.
I will never buy another John Deere product
A farmers great enemy
When do farmers swap to alternative brands that allows right to repair and when do content creators start revealing those alternatives to clueless farmers?
You defeat people like this by putting them out of business. John Deere is not the only agricultural business
They have over hyped and over rated& minipulated resale prices &repairs 5:34 for many years. Their GREED has finally caught up to them
COMPETITION WILL LEAD TO JOHN DEERE DOWNFALL/CORP GREED AT THE HEART OF ALL THERE PROBLEMS/CROP PRICES DO SUPPORT DEERES STEEP PRICES/GOOD BUY DEERE/TIME TO BE REORGANIZED INTO A COMPANY RUN BY FARMERS
Buy Case International tractors and equipment. Maybe John Deere would get the drift of the farmers concerns. You can only go to the well so many times before it dries up..
Have the government buy them out like Goverment Motors. Not General Motors.
I know for a fact they sold faulty lawnmowers that were catching fire and not honoring warranties.3 of the same model riding mowers burnt to the ground in our area and all 3 got the run around from both the seller of the mower and John deere themself. The seller stated it was a John deere warranty issue and John deere would argue that it was the warranty of the seller to repair or replace the unit. I wouldn't buy a John deere broom if they made them and honestly would like to see them go belly up and Case and New Holland take their place.
Farmers should just drop off their JD equipment in mass at their dealer - and stop paying for it. Next!
Just One smooth stone .
F deer they are over priced garbage and I wouldn't use one if they delivered it to me free tomorrow
John Deere asked for it and now Trump is going to give it to them. One would have to be nuts to deal with John Deere at this time.
Cat is the same.
The right to repair is a monumental fight with a greedy bully. More power to the farmers! John Deere will eventually lose as agriculture equipment gradually changes from green & yellow to other colors. Don't think this issue does not affect your grocery bill!
International Harester, Massey-Ferguson, Cat...time for a "Deere John" letter.
See what money dose to people
sadly, people running behind it.
I hope they shut down and go out of business forever.
Let them make equipment....for NO ONE.
I think it sucks, but the truth is in the last 6 months their stock price has gone up 28% so it seems nothing is really happening other than maybe a lot of mumbling and bitching.
Easiest fix is to never buy a John Deer
What i see here is a money grabbing control freaking CEO who thinks he's one of the elite 😱😡
These Farmers were your bread and butter 🧈 for many years. Why would turn your back on them ?
Many good companies are on hard times due to CEOs who are greedy and only care about stock price and not the quality of the product, Boeing aircraft corporation, John Deere, and many others with greedy CEOs! By by!
Meanwhile John Deere President earns like $26 million plus another $20 million bonus.
How does that work?
there are many companies that have equipment that is just as good or better than john deere get what you need elsewhere
Don't buy John deer
John Deere moved to Canada and became litigious.
I'm not going to type out a long testimonial.
Just going to say I was done with them 2 decades ago.
I used to be a fan but sold all the John Deere merch I had collected and even some that were gifts.
Own Kabota and a Valtra now.
It's called wanting more money because like a lot of others it comes down to being greedy
The answer is actually simple. If you don't like John Deere and their policies, don't buy John Deere equipment. If enough farmers boycott John Deere they will have to either change their greedy ways, or go bankrupt. Also, although profit may be less, using older, less computerized equipment which is more easily maintained and repaired, would at least insure that equipment is available when it is needed for harvests etc. Yes, this may well mean more hours of work to accomplish tasks, but at least they will be done, and not put off and put off until too late by a company which cares more about their profits than their customers. Being a farmer has never been easy, The promises made of making it easy by John Deere are proving to be a Devil's bargain. Time to accept that John Deere has been consumed by the sin of greed, and now encourages and preys on the sin of sloth, and turn to less corrupted companies, or just use and maintain older equipment from the days when John Deere was an honorable company. Let them either reform themselves or go broke.
And since John Deere is no longer the patents that John Hill have would be under and John Deere can't use them in Mexico because it's a US patent all the farmers should buy John Deere stock and buy them out
John deer don’t let the door kick you in the ass
This problem is so easy to fix but what would i know I'm just a mechanic.
Anyone consider hacking Deere to obtain specs and dispensing them?
John Deere you'll No part in Making America 🇺🇸 Great Again or Making 🇺🇸 America Healthy Again ❤ .
No tractor manufacturer will allow you access to their software full stop so your just telling complete lies
John Deere sux
Corporate Greed, first you real them in, then once you have them on the hook you start implementing changes, once you have complete Control like they do, what are these farmers to do, I say sue the company however that does not help the farmers with equipment they need every day. I hope the CEO gets fired and they get someone in there to run the company that can balance profits with common sense because these guy doesn't have either.
maybe it is a good think john deere is going belly up in America. farmers will find a way
let's see what happens, we hope to see everything better in future.
Transparency and getting off your ass!!! Launch a new campaign! Talk to the local farmer and see what they want! Actually record thier responces . Analyze and correct the problems! Thier tractors and equipment is second to none but the secrecy has to stop. The farmers are more than upset, they are screaming at you. Go public about what you are doing and why!!!! You don't need to be told, but get rid off the problems farmers are facing! Adjust your policies or face political, emotional, and the end of how farmers and construction companies will proceed in the future! Make your products and America great again! Failure is not an option!!!! Thankyou
Cars have did the same thing