I always thought Gooey was just a defective Dark Matter. The evil ones are clever, cunning and ruthless but Gooey is too stupid to even remember his own name.
Dark matter is just grumpy because it skipped nap time. You should never skip nap time, just ask Kirby. Every time his naps get disturbed he ends up slaying some immortal god.
Perhaps Gooey is the neutral representation of dark matter. Holding no ill intentions or desires. And only does what is necessary to survive. Until it met Kirby and was influenced for good.
Gooey is a live form that lack the verry thing that make him... him. It's like a part of his mind is lost so he can't have bad though or any thought at all
He’s not just a blob, he’s a pure boy I even wrote on his back one time (in the guest star allies for Kirby star allies victory screen for the wave one dream friends)
"Even Gooey doesnt know what he is anymore. But he's still happy to help!" Don't mind me just getting emotional over a videogame blob. Tbh Gooey is that one character that HAL has that could totally break the fanbase and the lore. You have the A LITERAL BEING THAT IS USED TO BE PART OF THE VILLAIN... but he's fREAKIN KIRBY'S BEST FRIEND. The fact that Gooey was given Dark Matter moves in Star Allies was already so freaky for me (as soon as I saw that Gooey flying move is called Mock Matter I was like NINTENDO YOU ABSOLUTE MADMAN) but if he's used in later games as a fundamental part of the story, you KNOW it has to be good.
The way I interpreted the text in the miiverse post, wouldn't it have been the cloning process that used the memories to make the rainbow light, and not Dark Matter itself?
how do you clone a memory tho? unless of course it was cloned with it because darkmatter just stores its memorys in its genetics. but if thats the case,then it is able to recreate stuff too if it really wants to
Has anyone thought of the possibility of who the four ancient heroes that defeated Void Termina might be? I have a theory... Hatred-Galacta Knight Obsession-Hyness Jealousy-Zero/Dark Matter Greed-Magolor It’s possible that the four heroes gave up their own positive energy to form the four spears that sealed Void Termina in the Jamba Heart, thus leading to them becoming corrupted by the very darkness they fought against, forcing the Ancients of Halcandra to cast them out. Galacta Knight, once a warrior of great compassion for all life in the universe, now became hateful of the weaker beings beneath his power, and launched a campaign of destruction so vast that it took Hyness and Magolor at their full strength to seal him away. Magolor was forced to surrender the Master Crown to the dragon Landia for its own protection, and over the next thousands of years he would be overcome with an insatiable greed and lust for the power of the crown. Hyness would develop an obsession with harnessing the powers of darkness, and would be cast out for his studies, hiding on the world of Jambandra to be near the Jamba Heart, and the call of his new master... The fourth hero, however, was so consumed by darkness that it took his body, his mind, and his soul, turning him into the embodiment of darkness itself, a creature much like the one he had sealed away... Now when he saw the light, it only filled him with a sense of extreme jealousy, so much that he wanted to snuff it out! And with the power to send vessels of himself all across the universe to spread his Dark Matter, he could do just that, and return everything to absolute Zero...
While this is amazing as an interesting fan theory. It was basically confirmed that there were two factions in the ancient races. One that used technology to gain power, which would eventually create Nova and Star Dream, and the one that relied on magic which created the Master Crown and other magic artifacts. Galacta Knight was similar to Meta Knight and was always trying to reach new heights in power, but unlike Meta Knight he wasn't tethered by a sense of Justice, and blindly accumulated power until he lost control, started destroying planets in search of strong enemies, and was ultimately sealed away. Both factions ended up waging war and due to that, Void Termina and the Master Crown(Which I believe is a weakened version of Void's powers that was Supposed to be controllable unlike Void, and then the Nova devices ended up being one blow after another that brought ruin.
Antoher problem with this theory is that the 4 heroes were never heard from again after they defeated Void. Almost all of these became very....popular throughout time. However, I do like to think of what the 4 heroes could've been.
As Chineye mentioned there are multiple problems with this theory Let's look at a fee major ones. For starters, Magolor and Zero have no mention of being sealed away of put as an outcast. Magolor and Hyness are the only ones who mention having any connection to the Ancients, and Magolor seems to be more of a researcher who knows about them than an Ancient. Galacta Knight also has a confirmed reason to be sealed away. He was imprisoned because of his enormous and uncontrollable strength, and that's it. There are more problems, but those are just a few
But... How could someone BECOME dark matter? Dark matter is just a necessary being that has been there all along, being the thing that basically fueled the magic ancients, which were casted out by the science ones for it. I believe that is when dark matter actually became negative. Also, just listen into the name "Dark Matter". Dark matter could have been used as a resource (which had sentience and was used for example for creating the practically sentient master crown), but because it had a mind of its own it was driven mad because it was together with its friends casted out from their race. EDIT: notice how it's also on the mirror world? Every world has its "dark matter"
I feel like the whole "Dark Matter can materialize objects from memory" thing may be bigger than we expect: it could potentially mean EVERYTHING Dark Matter is seen using throughout the series was used against them or their ancestor (AKA Void + negative influence) at some point in time. Things like Dark Star's floor and even Zero/Zero Two's white "nest" could be a memory, much like Void Termina's body was theorized to be in the corresponding Kirby Canon video.
We don't know for sure. When Dark Matter or Void conjures something from memory, there is typically a sort of aura around the abject as it forms, and the same aura appears as the object fades away. Neither Dark Star nor Zero's body had this effect occur.
Meh I like that Kirby has different villains. Having the final boss be an eyeball every time would be boring and predictable. There are threats to Dreamland because of what it represents.
Game Queen Well that’s understandable, I still think Kirby should have some type of usual villain that it sees every once in a while that is not Dedede cause I don’t consider Dedede really a villain anymore, look at Mario with Bowser, look at Donkey Kong and King K Rool, look at Link with Gannon, look at Samus with Ridley, look at Pit with Medusa. Do you really think any of these characters are boring just because they appear over and over and over again, maybe Bowser but still…
So, one day, I was just Searching up Void Kirby Star Allies, and I saw this Dark Matter Evolution chart. So first, it starts off with Void (Termina) obviously, but then as it goes down into the Dark Matter section, it said that Gooey still had Raw Void (Termina) Energies and was exposed to Positive energy. So you’re precisely right!
ChickinMan Man Man sure, Meta Knightmare isn't necessarily Canon but it isn't fan made. The chart is fan made but I guess it is the most way to explain Gooey unless Hal says otherwise.
1:00 I think there's some confusion there - the Jamba Heart pieces bring out the worst in whomever is exposed, but they are not directly tied to Dark Matter. When it comes to direct Dark Matter connections, we've only seen them directly possess others, such as with Dedede, Daroach, and Queen Ripple. The Jamba Heart pieces themselves are merely shattered portions of Void's prison, likely influenced by Hyness's hatred and the Ancients' fear.
And now that Void was defeated by Kirby, and also influenced by him, what will happen? The unique two things that I can imagine is the return of Dark Matter in a massive way or the Revenge of Dark Meta Knight
There is a theory which says that Void became the classic Kirb alt for Kirby that is unlocked after clearing Soul Melter EX, but it hasn't got enough evidence.
Dark Matter: BRING IT ON! Miracle Matter: LETS DEFEAT THAT KIRBY WOO! Dark Nebula: YEAH! Dark Matter: ... Miracle Matter: Why the termina are you here... Dark Matter: go away... Dark Nebula: why you bully me? :( Miracle Matter: because youre a weako
I imagine that Kirby, Gooey and Dark Matter all come from Void and while Kirby is pure positive energy and Dark Matter is pure negative energy, Gooey is an in-between, a neutral combination of both, or perhaps that's normally not possible, which is why he's such an extreme space case
Sakurai didn't design Dark Matter (he didn't work in Dream Land 2 because he was working in Super Star). Same for Magolor and Miracle Matter. But Dharkon seems to be a reference to Dark Matter.
Not likely. It's just an Easter egg for clearing the hardest mode in the game - and even if it wasn't, according to a Nintendo news post: "Bonjam! That pink ball's face is always changing... No matter if he's simple, or cute... It looks like, if you master The Ultimate Choice at its highest difficulty, you'll get the ability to transform yourself! Seeing him adventure, looking like he was when he was born, makes my chest fire up!".
Zero: friends... it is not over yet Kirby: is that all you have to say? Zero: in time, a successor will come. Farewell friends. *yes this joke is too funny not to make*
I like to think that Gooey was just a product of Void seeing something weird and being confused for thousands of years, leading to this lovable blob that was neutral and confused at first, but with Kirby's positive influence, became good, but still very confused
Even thought Dark Matter in Robobot isn't canon, we fight it as Meta Knight who wields Galaxia which technically is a special weapon since we use it to destroy Dark Mind (which you have to at least pick up in order to activate the first phase).
Also, if you listen closely to 02’s theme at the 2 minute mark, you can hear the following: _Pleeeeeaaaaasee Kirbyyyyy Kirbyyyyy Kirbyyyyy Help meeeeee_ This could be 02 regretting his actions by the influence of Kirby. So he asks Kirby to help him. What does he mean by help? To kill him. He knows that his clan is evil, and since we theorized that the white orb is the nest, he doesn’t only want himself to be destroyed, but also the nest. After the 02 battle, the nest starts to collapse, and could be the reason why all of Dark Matter was destroyed: the nest isn’t just the birthing place for Dark Matter, it is also the reason why they are still alive. Let’s assume the nest gives out the energy needed for Dark Matter to live. Without it, they would all collapse. JUST. LIKE. IN. 64! In conclusion, 02 was changed due to the influence of Kirby, and the reason why it wanted to be destroyed is because the nest gives life, and keeps the Dark Matter species alive. When it was destroyed, the Dark Matter species was also destroyed.
So my own personal theory after going on a Kirby lore dive the past couple days. The four matters mentioned in void soul’s description are, literally the fundamental elements of the Kirby universe; Heart, Dream, Dark, and Soul. Due to the fact that dark matter in Kirby 2 required the rainbow sword, a weapon forged from Heart stars, Zero required the Love-Love stick to be destroyed, and that dark matters are born of coalesced negative emotions, it is my theory that the matters of Heart and Dark are opposing elements that counter each other. This then implies that Soul and Dream are also opposing elements.
I think this is for shadowsing that dark matter and zero, might be able to reform from bad to good in the future. They just need a person as helpful like kirby to show that they can change their way's, and to learn and understand what it is to be happy, and to find there own happiness in the end. It would be difficult of course teaching a whole species born with only negative emotions to learn what happiness is all about but a person or being that willingly want's to help them with that problem could maybe work out just fine. Except that we would lose one of the best villians in the series if that would happen, but i would honestly rather see dark matter and zero happy that they no longer have to feel like outcasts, or different because of how they where born/ created, in the whole universe with only negative emotions. and that they can now finally live in peace with everyone around them as equals as they probably always wanted to be deep inside.
I honestly don’t think it’s possible for Zero to be able to be influenced to be good. We’ve seen in the past that those emotions alone are strong enough to kill it. However, it could be possible for a specimen of dark matter to be able to…as long as its influence by Zero is minimal. The dark matter we fought in KDL2 was close to being able to accomplish this, and Gooey probably came in existence due to similar circumstances.
I think the only purpose of Miracle Matter is to confirm the connection that Kirby and Dark Matter are related somehow through the Copy Ability technique.
Haha De-void! Nice pun! I never thought of the white part of Zero^2 being a nest! Great video, but dis you have to upload when I was about to go to sleep oof
In retrospect I think individual dark matter blobs can become more powerful and unique depending on the circumstances. It would explain why og dark matter, gooey, miracle matter, and dark nebula actually have unique sttacks.
I believe gooey could be the positive mirror world version of dark matter. When you think about, when the mirror tried to make a negative reflection of Kirby, it created an empty being, because Kirby doesn't have any negative energy. So if the mirror tried to make a positive reflection of dark matter (before dark mind corrupted the mirror) then it would have a similar outcome as shadow Kirby, because dark matter doesn't have any positive energy. I think that's some pretty solid evidence, but it's just a theory.
Miracle matter and Dark Nebula are similar in many ways considering they both heavily rely on elemental powers to fight and are both defeated using the same or other basic powers. It would seem dark matter is an embodiment of pure darkness which is why it needs to be defeated with friendship and rainbows, whereas nebula and miracle are manifestations of sentient magic energy and because of their connection to real world powers/elements their bodies are vulnerable to more of those same types of powers. Pure Dark matter cannot be physically harmed because it's body does not technically exist and is composed of intangible materials. You cannot touch darkness because it is not a physical object. You can hit elements since you can clearly touch fire, Ice, etc. The dark matter clone could be defeated normally because it WAS A CLONE. The clone was made using natural chemicals and real world objects artificially programmed to take shape of dark matter, but that doesn't change the fact its just a man made (technically machine made) purple blob. You can take a play-doh and mold it into a dark matter but that doesn't mean it still isn't just a piece of play-doh. Also gooey is the good boi.
I think Gooey is a Dark Matter form that one day somehow got exposed to so much good energy that he turned good, and the exact opposite of Galacta Knight, if he and Kirby are the same species
pretty sure gooey is just a part of darkmatter that decided not to be evil. i mean,kirbys species are pretty much the heirs of light and they can do massive wrong. unlike void himself,the entire case is not definitive. i am pretty sure if the rogue dark matter in dreamland 2 didnt decide to just ruin the place,he and kirby could have been friends. afterall,it did not have any real intention for doing all that unlike zero and the dark matter army who went to popstar to invade it. dreamland 2 darkmatter just felt its life is pretty crap and lashed out in pure frustration
kirby.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Matter_(species)#Miracle_Matter Also “Miracle Matter is a supposedly elite member of the Dark Matter species” so you could use that but it could be wrong since it “supposedly.”
I think that dark matter hive is void's outside body since it looks so much like dark star on the inside. Also, since the void in this dimension is locked up in the heart I think 0 and 02 spawned from a void in another dimension. Same also goes with kirby as Im pretty way back in Dreamland 1 it was said he came out of nowhere and since dimension hopping has been proven to be easy this would make sense.
02 could’ve still been defeated since unlike the Rainbow Sword which most likely just turned back into the bridges the Love Love Stick never seemed to disappear and seems to be stronger than the Crystal Gun since it can damage any part of the original zero and most likely 02
Wait a Moment, in kirby 64 dark matter posseses wadle dee and He has an eye as face, does that mean all the wadle dees that have one big eye as face that we see in the kirby games are wadle dees posseses by dark matter that might of accepted their place and became... Happy?
The only thing that makes sense for 0² and Miracle Matter is if they were created from the remains of the original Zero having split in order to spawn them. As for Gooey, what would make sense is if a Dark Matter grunt attempted to possess and corrupt Kirby, but ended up corrupting itself due to Kirby's kind-hearted nature, being repelled and expelled from Kirby's body transformed as Gooey. It would also give a reason as to why the Dark Matter species don't attempt to possess Kirby. Void seems to be the progenitor of various types of beings, Zero representing its dark aspect, but it's also said to be made out of heart, dreams and soul hinting at Kirby, Nightmare and Dark Mind as well as others like them. Those four are probably direct incarnations of Void while the rest are derived from them in some shape or form.
Dark Matter represented pure lack of colour, being nothing but pitch black. So the Rainbow Sword's colour was its weakness. 0 represented the hatred for Popstar's friendships, so the Love-Love Stick's love was its weakness. This was certainly enough to kill Dark Blade (The Dark Matter from Dream Land 2 who most likely was in the Hyper Zone for Dream Land 3. If 0 can come back, a Dark Matter could be revived at least once) if it could defeat its master. 0² represented total lack of goodness and pure evil. Destruction, even. So the Cyrstal Gun's light was its weakness. If Dream Friends aren't canon, I'd find it possible that 0²'s new hivemind came from absorbing Gooey after the Hyper Zone was destroyed. It would explain the smile (well, him and Void :) ), and why Gooey has no more canonical presence afterwards. Personally, I think of 0² as 0 Soul, the first Soul boss to resurrect for revenge against Kirby (in this case, from 0's remains coupled with perhaps Gooey's own essence). Also, Dark Nebula might in turn be what's left of 0² merged with what's left of Dark Star. I mean, "Dark _Star"._ Don't some people call him 0³? The names speak for themselves. And since 0 died again and was sealed up in a chest, unable to spread, that explains why a mere weapon that shoots stars (the Triple Star) could counter a dark Star like Nebula, or even how Kirby can get away with using other abilities. 0 is on his deathbed before he literally falls apart at 0 health. Miracle Matter is 0²'s attempt at weaponizing Kirby and Gooey's affinity for Copy Abilities. Perhaps it is even a premature form of 0², which would continue to support Gooey being the Matter himself, due to its connection with Copy Abilities, which would _still_ translate well to Nebula's use of the three core elements Void's own Mage Sister disciples wield. Finally, Dark Mind is probably the Mirror World's amalgamation of 0 and Nightmare. Guys like the latter could be fully-realized Dark Matter that become their own people (Nightmare the Dark Matter of Dreams, Necrodeus the Dark Matter of Death, Drawcia the Dark Matter of Paint, etc.), explaining how Void truly is the source of all known evil.
I don't have a whole lot to say right now, but I would like to bring up that in dream Land 3, Kirby can summon/create gooey by giving up two pieces of his own health, and recover those two pieces by eating him. Also, gooey has the power to copy abilities, just like Kirby, though in star allies he can't, he seems to have something like the smash ability in that game. And on a separate note, miracle matter is comparable to void termina in that some of their attacks are the same, such as their needle attacks.
Oh I see! So once he became under Kirby's influence, Kirby could've summoned him like a Dark Matter could (although at the sacrfice of some of his vitality). Once Gooey learned how to copy abilities, he must've been able to use the ones he learned from memory
since kirby,gooey and miracle matter all can use copyabilitys,i just assume that is an ability that both species have. basicly,something hidden in their genetics that relates to void
You know, Zero can recreate from memory meaning it could make Kirby, Lor StarCutter, fish, (Through corrupting Magalor) Ultra Sword and the other super abilities etc.
Plot twist: Kirby is a type of matter. Proof: we see dark matter can create memories of the past, and we also see KIRBY do this,so he is either dark or light matter
So, i have a theory about the “lineage” of dark matter. Void - creator of both light and dark matter Zero two - the leader of ALL dark matter, has the ability to make both zero “ones” and miracle matter. Zero - The leader of lower status dark matter, creates regular dark matter. Dark matter - The minions. Light matter - Kirby, and possibly the reincarnation of Void after the ultimate choice.
This is just my theory on how every kirby villain connects back to void but basicly its my believe that all ancient artifacts are infused with void/dark matter as a power source therefor every villain that has been givin power by ancient artifacts basicly just got a taste of voids power. So with that theory that would mean that the villains that are Corrupted by void are -nightmare (possibly created by star rod or fountain of dreams) -Marx (givin power by nova) -Drawcia (created with magical paintbrush) -Magolor (master crown) -Queen sectonia (dimension mirror and possibly dark minds corruption) -Max profit haltmann (Star dream litterally stole his memories and made him worse) -Star dream it self (the heart of nova could be a jamba heart which explains why it works so simulair And the rest of the villains are forms of dark matter or are atleast somewhat related -Forms of dark matter Zero Zero two Dark nebula Dark mind (mirror world ver) Dark crafter (possibly he is too simulair but its not confirmed) And possibly necrodeus aswell. In his mouth is a dark eye and his powers and weakness to light are very simulair to dark matter. Maybe he isnt 100% dark matter but hes defenitly related in someway its just too simulair Its just a theory tho and its what i like to think. I am prob wrong lol
I always thought Gooey was just a defective Dark Matter. The evil ones are clever, cunning and ruthless but Gooey is too stupid to even remember his own name.
Maybe his real name is light orb termainah?
Gooeyculus the III
*tf did you say about my homie gooey*
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They probably didn’t mean it as an insult. In Star Allies it literally says Gooey doesn’t know his name.
Poor boi
He tries his best
NEVER SAY THaT GOOEY IS STUPID EVER AGAIN AND I THINK YOUR THE ReAL STUPID ONE
Dark matter is just grumpy because it skipped nap time. You should never skip nap time, just ask Kirby. Every time his naps get disturbed he ends up slaying some immortal god.
yup.
True
No sleep no limits
Yes
Lol
Perhaps Gooey is the neutral representation of dark matter. Holding no ill intentions or desires. And only does what is necessary to survive. Until it met Kirby and was influenced for good.
Maybe it might be more like an alignment spectrum. Gooey is true neutral, kirby is neutral good, void is chaotic evil, zero is lawful evil, etc.
Gooey is a live form that lack the verry thing that make him... him. It's like a part of his mind is lost so he can't have bad though or any thought at all
@@finderfinder4290 I would think Void is chaotic neutral - its behavior is entirely dependent on its circumstances, after all.
At least one thing we all can agree on is that Gooey is a very odd case. And yeah, an alignment spectrum is what I had in mind too when stating this.
@@syweb2 yeah, maybe void termina would be chaotic evil in that case, as apposed to void
2:18
I can’t get over how Kirby looks at the camera like: “You seeing this?”
WhoopDeDooper
Read this as it happened
I love that gooey is just that silly bloob that every one loves
bloob
Gaming Warlord64
“Bloob”
Bruh
Gaming Warlord64 more like everyone is grossed out or traumatized form past dark matter attacks
He’s not just a blob, he’s a pure boy I even wrote on his back one time (in the guest star allies for Kirby star allies victory screen for the wave one dream friends)
I love how seriously he says: "Dark matter can only be destroyed by friendship and rainbows"
XD
Understanding Dark Matter is hard, you could say that it takes a *Miracle*
You need a prety dark mind to think about that
Thank God i read this at the Morning, otherwise i would've had a *Nightmare*
When it's Kirby nothing *matters*
Christopher Moon that pun was really great a pint is a great way to cheer us up from the disturbing lore of Kirby
My understanding of this comment section is non-existent. You could say that it's in a *VOID* of absolute confusion.
"Even Gooey doesnt know what he is anymore. But he's still happy to help!"
Don't mind me just getting emotional over a videogame blob.
Tbh Gooey is that one character that HAL has that could totally break the fanbase and the lore. You have the A LITERAL BEING THAT IS USED TO BE PART OF THE VILLAIN... but he's fREAKIN KIRBY'S BEST FRIEND. The fact that Gooey was given Dark Matter moves in Star Allies was already so freaky for me (as soon as I saw that Gooey flying move is called Mock Matter I was like NINTENDO YOU ABSOLUTE MADMAN) but if he's used in later games as a fundamental part of the story, you KNOW it has to be good.
He even became mock matter in the KDL3 final boss
Seeing how Dark Matter has the power to use memories to it's advantage, gives me chills to see what's in store for future games!
The way I interpreted the text in the miiverse post, wouldn't it have been the cloning process that used the memories to make the rainbow light, and not Dark Matter itself?
"Those memories must have been included in the original data used to create the clone."
Perhaps
I can see that interpretation... Bur judging from what we saw with Void Termina, it seems the former is more likely
how do you clone a memory tho? unless of course it was cloned with it because darkmatter just stores its memorys in its genetics. but if thats the case,then it is able to recreate stuff too if it really wants to
Has anyone thought of the possibility of who the four ancient heroes that defeated Void Termina might be? I have a theory...
Hatred-Galacta Knight
Obsession-Hyness
Jealousy-Zero/Dark Matter
Greed-Magolor
It’s possible that the four heroes gave up their own positive energy to form the four spears that sealed Void Termina in the Jamba Heart, thus leading to them becoming corrupted by the very darkness they fought against, forcing the Ancients of Halcandra to cast them out. Galacta Knight, once a warrior of great compassion for all life in the universe, now became hateful of the weaker beings beneath his power, and launched a campaign of destruction so vast that it took Hyness and Magolor at their full strength to seal him away. Magolor was forced to surrender the Master Crown to the dragon Landia for its own protection, and over the next thousands of years he would be overcome with an insatiable greed and lust for the power of the crown. Hyness would develop an obsession with harnessing the powers of darkness, and would be cast out for his studies, hiding on the world of Jambandra to be near the Jamba Heart, and the call of his new master... The fourth hero, however, was so consumed by darkness that it took his body, his mind, and his soul, turning him into the embodiment of darkness itself, a creature much like the one he had sealed away... Now when he saw the light, it only filled him with a sense of extreme jealousy, so much that he wanted to snuff it out! And with the power to send vessels of himself all across the universe to spread his Dark Matter, he could do just that, and return everything to absolute Zero...
While this is amazing as an interesting fan theory. It was basically confirmed that there were two factions in the ancient races. One that used technology to gain power, which would eventually create Nova and Star Dream, and the one that relied on magic which created the Master Crown and other magic artifacts.
Galacta Knight was similar to Meta Knight and was always trying to reach new heights in power, but unlike Meta Knight he wasn't tethered by a sense of Justice, and blindly accumulated power until he lost control, started destroying planets in search of strong enemies, and was ultimately sealed away.
Both factions ended up waging war and due to that, Void Termina and the Master Crown(Which I believe is a weakened version of Void's powers that was Supposed to be controllable unlike Void, and then the Nova devices ended up being one blow after another that brought ruin.
Antoher problem with this theory is that the 4 heroes were never heard from again after they defeated Void. Almost all of these became very....popular throughout time. However, I do like to think of what the 4 heroes could've been.
@@MrSuperbeast92 also, did these two factions of the ancients war against each other, or did they combine thwjr forces against something else?
As Chineye mentioned there are multiple problems with this theory
Let's look at a fee major ones. For starters, Magolor and Zero have no mention of being sealed away of put as an outcast. Magolor and Hyness are the only ones who mention having any connection to the Ancients, and Magolor seems to be more of a researcher who knows about them than an Ancient. Galacta Knight also has a confirmed reason to be sealed away. He was imprisoned because of his enormous and uncontrollable strength, and that's it. There are more problems, but those are just a few
But... How could someone BECOME dark matter? Dark matter is just a necessary being that has been there all along, being the thing that basically fueled the magic ancients, which were casted out by the science ones for it. I believe that is when dark matter actually became negative. Also, just listen into the name "Dark Matter". Dark matter could have been used as a resource (which had sentience and was used for example for creating the practically sentient master crown), but because it had a mind of its own it was driven mad because it was together with its friends casted out from their race.
EDIT: notice how it's also on the mirror world? Every world has its "dark matter"
I'm liking how you are dx-ifying old videos to add new information
I feel like the whole "Dark Matter can materialize objects from memory" thing may be bigger than we expect: it could potentially mean EVERYTHING Dark Matter is seen using throughout the series was used against them or their ancestor (AKA Void + negative influence) at some point in time. Things like Dark Star's floor and even Zero/Zero Two's white "nest" could be a memory, much like Void Termina's body was theorized to be in the corresponding Kirby Canon video.
We don't know for sure. When Dark Matter or Void conjures something from memory, there is typically a sort of aura around the abject as it forms, and the same aura appears as the object fades away. Neither Dark Star nor Zero's body had this effect occur.
This also applies to the crude rainbow sword dark swordsman makes in his meta knightmare returns fight
Me: it’s 10pm. Maybe I should finally go to sleep
*see’s this video in notifications*
Me: SLEEP CAN WAIT
Same. However, for me it's 11:00
I know right
It’s 12 o’clock midnight for me...
1:29 as of now here.
Samee lmfaapaoaao
void- the embodiment of cataclysm itself
gooey- can't tell the time
i love kirby games
I think if Kirby had 1 consistent villain Dark Matter should be it.
MisterZygarde64 yeah
Meh I like that Kirby has different villains. Having the final boss be an eyeball every time would be boring and predictable. There are threats to Dreamland because of what it represents.
One word: Dedede
Game Queen Well that’s understandable, I still think Kirby should have some type of usual villain that it sees every once in a while that is not Dedede cause I don’t consider Dedede really a villain anymore, look at Mario with Bowser, look at Donkey Kong and King K Rool, look at Link with Gannon, look at Samus with Ridley, look at Pit with Medusa. Do you really think any of these characters are boring just because they appear over and over and over again, maybe Bowser but still…
So, one day, I was just Searching up Void Kirby Star Allies, and I saw this Dark Matter Evolution chart. So first, it starts off with Void (Termina) obviously, but then as it goes down into the Dark Matter section, it said that Gooey still had Raw Void (Termina) Energies and was exposed to Positive energy. So you’re precisely right!
Except that chart is fan-made and in no way canon.
@@syweb2 Just like Meta-Knightmare. I think.
@@princenobody5595 Please elaborate.
ChickinMan Man Man sure, Meta Knightmare isn't necessarily Canon but it isn't fan made. The chart is fan made but I guess it is the most way to explain Gooey unless Hal says otherwise.
1:00 I think there's some confusion there - the Jamba Heart pieces bring out the worst in whomever is exposed, but they are not directly tied to Dark Matter. When it comes to direct Dark Matter connections, we've only seen them directly possess others, such as with Dedede, Daroach, and Queen Ripple. The Jamba Heart pieces themselves are merely shattered portions of Void's prison, likely influenced by Hyness's hatred and the Ancients' fear.
See the episode on Void Termina ;)
When the Miiverse page said that the clone recreated the sword from memory, I thought that was something the clone could do, not Dark Matter itself.
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Same
Justin Wing I love ur pic
And now that Void was defeated by Kirby, and also influenced by him, what will happen? The unique two things that I can imagine is the return of Dark Matter in a massive way or the Revenge of Dark Meta Knight
There is a theory which says that Void became the classic Kirb alt for Kirby that is unlocked after clearing Soul Melter EX, but it hasn't got enough evidence.
It’s interesting retelling this information now that there’s new evidence of things like Dark Matter.
Dark Matter: BRING IT ON!
Miracle Matter: LETS DEFEAT THAT KIRBY WOO!
Dark Nebula: YEAH!
Dark Matter: ...
Miracle Matter: Why the termina are you here...
Dark Matter: go away...
Dark Nebula: why you bully me? :(
Miracle Matter: because youre a weako
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02: we don’t need weakling like you. Piss off.
Why everyone bully meh boi dark nebula :(
@@yesimsureieneteredmynameco4540 Daroach will be frends with Dark Nebula... (In the form of possession obviously)
Grim Grim noice
I imagine that Kirby, Gooey and Dark Matter all come from Void and while Kirby is pure positive energy and Dark Matter is pure negative energy, Gooey is an in-between, a neutral combination of both, or perhaps that's normally not possible, which is why he's such an extreme space case
what is sakurai's obsession with eyeballs? dark matter? miracle matter? magolor? heck even dharkon!
Sakurai didn't design Dark Matter (he didn't work in Dream Land 2 because he was working in Super Star). Same for Magolor and Miracle Matter. But Dharkon seems to be a reference to Dark Matter.
What if the kirb you unlock at the end is the void from a parallel dimension reencarnated?
Not likely. It's just an Easter egg for clearing the hardest mode in the game - and even if it wasn't, according to a Nintendo news post: "Bonjam! That pink ball's face is always changing... No matter if he's simple, or cute... It looks like, if you master The Ultimate Choice at its highest difficulty, you'll get the ability to transform yourself! Seeing him adventure, looking like he was when he was born, makes my chest fire up!".
Zero: friends... it is not over yet
Kirby: is that all you have to say?
Zero: in time, a successor will come. Farewell friends. *yes this joke is too funny not to make*
I like to think that Gooey was just a product of Void seeing something weird and being confused for thousands of years, leading to this lovable blob that was neutral and confused at first, but with Kirby's positive influence, became good, but still very confused
"What the hell is this?"
*turns into gooey*
Even thought Dark Matter in Robobot isn't canon, we fight it as Meta Knight who wields Galaxia which technically is a special weapon since we use it to destroy Dark Mind (which you have to at least pick up in order to activate the first phase).
Also, if you listen closely to 02’s theme at the 2 minute mark, you can hear the following:
_Pleeeeeaaaaasee Kirbyyyyy Kirbyyyyy Kirbyyyyy Help meeeeee_
This could be 02 regretting his actions by the influence of Kirby. So he asks Kirby to help him. What does he mean by help? To kill him. He knows that his clan is evil, and since we theorized that the white orb is the nest, he doesn’t only want himself to be destroyed, but also the nest. After the 02 battle, the nest starts to collapse, and could be the reason why all of Dark Matter was destroyed: the nest isn’t just the birthing place for Dark Matter, it is also the reason why they are still alive. Let’s assume the nest gives out the energy needed for Dark Matter to live. Without it, they would all collapse. JUST. LIKE. IN. 64!
In conclusion, 02 was changed due to the influence of Kirby, and the reason why it wanted to be destroyed is because the nest gives life, and keeps the Dark Matter species alive. When it was destroyed, the Dark Matter species was also destroyed.
How disturbing.
Hold on, how would Gooey survive then? Did he get enough positive energy to survive?
So my own personal theory after going on a Kirby lore dive the past couple days. The four matters mentioned in void soul’s description are, literally the fundamental elements of the Kirby universe; Heart, Dream, Dark, and Soul.
Due to the fact that dark matter in Kirby 2 required the rainbow sword, a weapon forged from Heart stars, Zero required the Love-Love stick to be destroyed, and that dark matters are born of coalesced negative emotions, it is my theory that the matters of Heart and Dark are opposing elements that counter each other. This then implies that Soul and Dream are also opposing elements.
I always believed the Void Termina is the ansester or Dark Matter
2:04 You know something's bad when your planet starts sweat dropping lol
I NEED TO *CONSUME* MOAR KIRB LORE VIDS
"There are other characters that MIRROR Dark Matter..." lol mirror
I think this is for shadowsing that dark matter and zero, might be able to reform from bad to good in the future.
They just need a person as helpful like kirby to show that they can change their way's, and to learn and understand what it is to be happy, and to find there own happiness in the end.
It would be difficult of course teaching a whole species born with only negative emotions to learn what happiness is all about but a person or being that willingly want's to help them with that problem could maybe work out just fine.
Except that we would lose one of the best villians in the series if that would happen, but i would honestly rather see dark matter and zero happy that they no longer have to feel like outcasts, or different because of how they where born/ created, in the whole universe with only negative emotions. and that they can now finally live in peace with everyone around them as equals as they probably always wanted to be deep inside.
I honestly don’t think it’s possible for Zero to be able to be influenced to be good. We’ve seen in the past that those emotions alone are strong enough to kill it. However, it could be possible for a specimen of dark matter to be able to…as long as its influence by Zero is minimal. The dark matter we fought in KDL2 was close to being able to accomplish this, and Gooey probably came in existence due to similar circumstances.
Aside from Ted Lewis who would be a good english voice actor for King Dedede?
obviously Masahiro Sakurai
Danny Devito
Heavy's voice actor might be good (minus the Russian accent if possible)
I like to think Miracle Matter is formed by the same material as Zero’s shell, as Dark Matter’s attempt to utilize Copy Abilities like Kirby.
artist dx please because miniboss vividria adds lots of lore to the artist sisters
maybe paintra, drawcia, claycia and vividria are all sisters?
Maybe zero the red eyeball,is a vessel chosen to be the leader. Then when he was defeated,another vessel was chosen to become zero two.
I think the only purpose of Miracle Matter is to confirm the connection that Kirby and Dark Matter are related somehow through the Copy Ability technique.
Haha De-void! Nice pun!
I never thought of the white part of Zero^2 being a nest! Great video, but dis you have to upload when I was about to go to sleep oof
In retrospect I think individual dark matter blobs can become more powerful and unique depending on the circumstances. It would explain why og dark matter, gooey, miracle matter, and dark nebula actually have unique sttacks.
I believe gooey could be the positive mirror world version of dark matter. When you think about, when the mirror tried to make a negative reflection of Kirby, it created an empty being, because Kirby doesn't have any negative energy. So if the mirror tried to make a positive reflection of dark matter (before dark mind corrupted the mirror) then it would have a similar outcome as shadow Kirby, because dark matter doesn't have any positive energy. I think that's some pretty solid evidence, but it's just a theory.
I think I've seen that interpretation of Zero Two somewhere in the comments of another video and grew to like it, so I'm glad to see it here.
Thank you for telling me about Dark Matter
5:05 KH Lore in a nutshell
I love how Zero two’s theme is is the background
1 in the morning lol meteorz your killing me over here
Miracle matter and Dark Nebula are similar in many ways considering they both heavily rely on elemental powers to fight and are both defeated using the same or other basic powers. It would seem dark matter is an embodiment of pure darkness which is why it needs to be defeated with friendship and rainbows, whereas nebula and miracle are manifestations of sentient magic energy and because of their connection to real world powers/elements their bodies are vulnerable to more of those same types of powers.
Pure Dark matter cannot be physically harmed because it's body does not technically exist and is composed of intangible materials. You cannot touch darkness because it is not a physical object. You can hit elements since you can clearly touch fire, Ice, etc. The dark matter clone could be defeated normally because it WAS A CLONE. The clone was made using natural chemicals and real world objects artificially programmed to take shape of dark matter, but that doesn't change the fact its just a man made (technically machine made) purple blob. You can take a play-doh and mold it into a dark matter but that doesn't mean it still isn't just a piece of play-doh.
Also gooey is the good boi.
keep being you gooey, you doing GREAT!
Gooey
Dark Matter
Dark Matter SwordsMan
Miracle Matter
Zero
Zero2
Dark Nebula
Dark Matter Clone
Void Termina
Looks like the power of friendship really is deadly and OP in Kirby
We need another Kirby game that’s about Dark matter
Kirby games may seem Happy and Joy, but it is REALLY Dark.
The Kirby franchise is the best at looking all happy and then ending with either the planet being taken over or the fabric of reality being torn...
@@grimgrim_mfpc yeah
Friendship and rainbow? So that mean Equestria is safe from evil invaders from space.
You forgot the part where zero two becomes a anime girl!
*Sobs
*Cries
I think Gooey is a Dark Matter form that one day somehow got exposed to so much good energy that he turned good, and the exact opposite of Galacta Knight, if he and Kirby are the same species
Thanks for the great video. I love dark matter!
What a good way to wake up to in the morning.
When is next time? *WHEN IS NEXT TIME!?*
Ah yes 1AM perfect timing
If kirby didn't trust marx or magolor, they couldn't have come back as dream friends
He's weakness is happyness
I get so excited when I see these videos 😄
Meteroz some people say good bye Kirby
6:33 hah, who mirror Dark Matter. I see what ya did there.
pretty sure gooey is just a part of darkmatter that decided not to be evil. i mean,kirbys species are pretty much the heirs of light and they can do massive wrong. unlike void himself,the entire case is not definitive. i am pretty sure if the rogue dark matter in dreamland 2 didnt decide to just ruin the place,he and kirby could have been friends. afterall,it did not have any real intention for doing all that unlike zero and the dark matter army who went to popstar to invade it. dreamland 2 darkmatter just felt its life is pretty crap and lashed out in pure frustration
5:00 Fun fact those “Dark Matters” you were talking about do have a name. kirby.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Rimuru,_Dark_Rimura,_and_Dark_Rimuro
Huh...the more you know!
Yes, I didn’t even know that until I look up the dark Matter species on the Kirby Wiki.
kirby.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Matter_(species)#Miracle_Matter Also “Miracle Matter is a supposedly elite member of the Dark Matter species” so you could use that but it could be wrong since it “supposedly.”
But, are those names canon?
Yes. In a Japanes guide
Glad to be of some help again!
The Dark Matter Invaders are very mysterious
I think that dark matter hive is void's outside body since it looks so much like dark star on the inside. Also, since the void in this dimension is locked up in the heart I think 0 and 02 spawned from a void in another dimension. Same also goes with kirby as Im pretty way back in Dreamland 1 it was said he came out of nowhere and since dimension hopping has been proven to be easy this would make sense.
Good to see you again!!!
A Rayman fan cool
Sonic and Rayman is my childhood
@@Skypatroller_BenCD
Thats nice, that means you had a great childhood.
@@raymanfan9265 thanks
Anyone think the Crystal Shard is a product of the Ancients. Like the think can make star shaped portals.
1:55 You know him well...
He's the leader of the DM crew!
@@bluekirby_64 And he's finally back to kick some tail (to the curb)
I still want to hold on to theory that says that Zero and Zero Two aren't the same entity.
Did you even payed atention?
Basically Kirby vs. Dark Matter:
Dark Matter: "Darkness conquers all worlds!"
Kirby: "My friends are my power!"
02 could’ve still been defeated since unlike the Rainbow Sword which most likely just turned back into the bridges the Love Love Stick never seemed to disappear and seems to be stronger than the Crystal Gun since it can damage any part of the original zero and most likely 02
I missed watching this years ago
Wait a Moment, in kirby 64 dark matter posseses wadle dee and He has an eye as face, does that mean all the wadle dees that have one big eye as face that we see in the kirby games are wadle dees posseses by dark matter that might of accepted their place and became... Happy?
The only thing that makes sense for 0² and Miracle Matter is if they were created from the remains of the original Zero having split in order to spawn them.
As for Gooey, what would make sense is if a Dark Matter grunt attempted to possess and corrupt Kirby, but ended up corrupting itself due to Kirby's kind-hearted nature, being repelled and expelled from Kirby's body transformed as Gooey. It would also give a reason as to why the Dark Matter species don't attempt to possess Kirby.
Void seems to be the progenitor of various types of beings, Zero representing its dark aspect, but it's also said to be made out of heart, dreams and soul hinting at Kirby, Nightmare and Dark Mind as well as others like them. Those four are probably direct incarnations of Void while the rest are derived from them in some shape or form.
Maybe kirby is void influenced by love
I want the dark matters to come back! And want to take over again! The dark matter invasion
We need more Lore on the best Nintendo Villains!
Dark Matter represented pure lack of colour, being nothing but pitch black. So the Rainbow Sword's colour was its weakness. 0 represented the hatred for Popstar's friendships, so the Love-Love Stick's love was its weakness. This was certainly enough to kill Dark Blade (The Dark Matter from Dream Land 2 who most likely was in the Hyper Zone for Dream Land 3. If 0 can come back, a Dark Matter could be revived at least once) if it could defeat its master. 0² represented total lack of goodness and pure evil. Destruction, even. So the Cyrstal Gun's light was its weakness.
If Dream Friends aren't canon, I'd find it possible that 0²'s new hivemind came from absorbing Gooey after the Hyper Zone was destroyed. It would explain the smile (well, him and Void :) ), and why Gooey has no more canonical presence afterwards. Personally, I think of 0² as 0 Soul, the first Soul boss to resurrect for revenge against Kirby (in this case, from 0's remains coupled with perhaps Gooey's own essence).
Also, Dark Nebula might in turn be what's left of 0² merged with what's left of Dark Star. I mean, "Dark _Star"._ Don't some people call him 0³? The names speak for themselves. And since 0 died again and was sealed up in a chest, unable to spread, that explains why a mere weapon that shoots stars (the Triple Star) could counter a dark Star like Nebula, or even how Kirby can get away with using other abilities. 0 is on his deathbed before he literally falls apart at 0 health.
Miracle Matter is 0²'s attempt at weaponizing Kirby and Gooey's affinity for Copy Abilities. Perhaps it is even a premature form of 0², which would continue to support Gooey being the Matter himself, due to its connection with Copy Abilities, which would _still_ translate well to Nebula's use of the three core elements Void's own Mage Sister disciples wield.
Finally, Dark Mind is probably the Mirror World's amalgamation of 0 and Nightmare. Guys like the latter could be fully-realized Dark Matter that become their own people (Nightmare the Dark Matter of Dreams, Necrodeus the Dark Matter of Death, Drawcia the Dark Matter of Paint, etc.), explaining how Void truly is the source of all known evil.
“Ahem.”
*My friends are my power cliché.*
*Ding!*
I see what you did there with the description.
Dark matter is the one who wants to defeat Kirby but Kirby is the one who wants to save the world
I adore these videos, however I feel the script has a lot of similar lines from WiKC 3.
Keep up the good work meteorz!
Fair point, but that was intentional as well, I kept a few lines I liked from the old video so newcomers could hear them for the first time
Dark matter and zero are my favorite kirby villans :)
What’s the song used?
Maybe zero can create special types of dark matter to that’s why theres miracle matter
I don't have a whole lot to say right now, but I would like to bring up that in dream Land 3, Kirby can summon/create gooey by giving up two pieces of his own health, and recover those two pieces by eating him. Also, gooey has the power to copy abilities, just like Kirby, though in star allies he can't, he seems to have something like the smash ability in that game. And on a separate note, miracle matter is comparable to void termina in that some of their attacks are the same, such as their needle attacks.
Oh I see! So once he became under Kirby's influence, Kirby could've summoned him like a Dark Matter could (although at the sacrfice of some of his vitality). Once Gooey learned how to copy abilities, he must've been able to use the ones he learned from memory
since kirby,gooey and miracle matter all can use copyabilitys,i just assume that is an ability that both species have. basicly,something hidden in their genetics that relates to void
You know, Zero can recreate from memory meaning it could make Kirby, Lor StarCutter, fish, (Through corrupting Magalor) Ultra Sword and the other super abilities etc.
I view Gooey as a clean slate, an unformed lump of clay, and can only be molded by the influence of another, whether good or bad.
I think Void, Dark Crafter, Dark Nebula, Dark Mind and possibly the master crown are all apart of the Dark Matter group
Plot twist: Kirby is a type of matter.
Proof: we see dark matter can create memories of the past, and we also see KIRBY do this,so he is either dark or light matter
So, i have a theory about the “lineage” of dark matter.
Void - creator of both light and dark matter
Zero two - the leader of ALL dark matter, has the ability to make both zero “ones” and miracle matter.
Zero - The leader of lower status dark matter, creates regular dark matter.
Dark matter - The minions.
Light matter - Kirby, and possibly the reincarnation of Void after the ultimate choice.
This is just my theory on how every kirby villain connects back to void but basicly its my believe that all ancient artifacts are infused with void/dark matter as a power source therefor every villain that has been givin power by ancient artifacts basicly just got a taste of voids power.
So with that theory that would mean that the villains that are Corrupted by void are
-nightmare (possibly created by star rod or fountain of dreams)
-Marx (givin power by nova)
-Drawcia (created with magical paintbrush)
-Magolor (master crown)
-Queen sectonia (dimension mirror and possibly dark minds corruption)
-Max profit haltmann (Star dream litterally stole his memories and made him worse)
-Star dream it self (the heart of nova could be a jamba heart which explains why it works so simulair
And the rest of the villains are forms of dark matter or are atleast somewhat related
-Forms of dark matter
Zero
Zero two
Dark nebula
Dark mind (mirror world ver)
Dark crafter (possibly he is too simulair but its not confirmed)
And possibly necrodeus aswell. In his mouth is a dark eye and his powers and weakness to light are very simulair to dark matter. Maybe he isnt 100% dark matter but hes defenitly related in someway its just too simulair
Its just a theory tho and its what i like to think. I am prob wrong lol
dark matter is basically the symbiote of the kirby universe
Kirby and zero are technically brothers cause they were both made by void
Gooey might just be a inert void from having equal negative and positive energy