KOKICHI OMA vs YUUICHI KATAGIRI - FINAL | Smart Characters Super Tournament pt FINAL

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  • @Nagi_Komaeda
    @Nagi_Komaeda  ปีที่แล้ว +75

    If I had to give my opinion about the final, I would say I expected more. Honestly, I intended for it to be three rounds with an even more spectacular edition, but the application's lag issues made it impossible, and I didn't want to prolong the tournament's conclusion too much.
    Speaking in general about the tournament, I must say it was a lot of fun but also a bit tedious due to various issues. As I mentioned, this was like a trial, and the rules weren't well established, so I had to improvise and add things on the fly. For the next edition of the tournament, which will likely take place in the distant future, I will have everything better organized for everyone to enjoy more.
    I'm also a bit saddened to have seen several comments complaining about the consistency of video uploads. Of course, I disappeared for a month due to my responsibilities, but I don't think people appreciate that during my vacation in July, there were videos practically every day.
    My apologies also for some results that seemed unfair or disappointing. I'm still not a very skilled scaler in general, so the next tournament will feature characters from verses I've scaled a bit better.
    In conclusion, I would like to express my gratitude to Dax, Cento, and Cleax for supporting the idea from the beginning, as well as to KiyoKouji, who, as you know, was my inspiration for creating content, for dropping by from time to time and taking the time to comment (although I don't think he liked it much lmao), and thanks to all of you for supporting the tournament at every stage.
    See you in the next tournament, which will be in league format!

    • @k4psz
      @k4psz ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This tournament was amazing! It was very fun to watch it. Its very sad that some people just criticize everything, Im sorry for you. Also Im anxious for the next tournament, your creativity is S tier!

    • @kilato9649
      @kilato9649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was an amazing tournament!

    • @astato.
      @astato. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your tournament was truly amazing! Your ability to create different types of competitions is admirable. I've never seen a TH-camr create a tournament like this before. I really value your creativity and, in my opinion, you deserve even more recognition for that❤

    • @MoonS4444
      @MoonS4444 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was seriously the best wis tournament i've seen. I really appreciate when someone tries to do new things

    • @gokhanb.9467
      @gokhanb.9467 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was a spectacular tournament! I think most of the people who were complaining about your dissappear (including me) were just sad for not seeing your videos. It's not like people were angry or sad towards you, its just we were get used to seeing your videos and felt bad when we can't. It's like you heard that your favorite restaurant got closed for some time or one of your close friend go abroad.
      Also your scaling was very good. Of course some people disaggree, even if the mangaka himself do a scaling people would still argue. Yours was true for %95 in my book. And everyone including the viewer can mistake for %10. (anything more probably just being too much of a fan or hater)

  • @goofy_maxima
    @goofy_maxima ปีที่แล้ว +77

    The actual winner and overall smartest character was the wheel. Gained Yuiichi's trust in previous parts and today it betrayed him.🤡💀

  • @CamilleQuillindirino
    @CamilleQuillindirino ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Everybody gangsta until Yuuichi with his world level influence launches a nuke

  • @kaisou569
    @kaisou569 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This tournament was a massive W, and even though it's a shame some characters got removed by mistake and didn't get to participate, this was still the most creative tournament I've ever seen, I'm really excited to see what comes next

  • @goodman23_
    @goodman23_ ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I am rooting for yuuichi to get this W.
    Edit: Yuuichi got scammed for a W😢

  • @GamerAugu
    @GamerAugu ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Nagito really be giving out luck like it was candy.

  • @Darrmi
    @Darrmi ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Damn i didn't expect kokichi winning with no diff 💀

    • @Walter5black
      @Walter5black 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Go and play danganronpa. Mf was a real menace to both monokuma and the students lmao

  • @hola89
    @hola89 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Best tournament ive seen, comparing your first part to your final part is insane how you evolved, thats crazy, hope you make greater tournaments like this

  • @Henryglazer
    @Henryglazer ปีที่แล้ว +23

    my opinion in normal outsmarting yuiichi wins very high-extreme diff but the wheel scammed yuiichi

  • @clownN.N
    @clownN.N ปีที่แล้ว +17

    outsmarting human average 💀💀

  • @adrianrotela1234
    @adrianrotela1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Imagine if the wheel landed in izuru 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
    That would be the biggest plot twist

  • @naosei47749
    @naosei47749 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    finally 😭😭Honestly, I was so excited for this final that I almost freaked out when I saw this. Congratulations on the impeccable work in this final, it was very well done. I hope the next tournament is even better. I'm Brazilian and I'm using the translator, so I don't know if everything is ok. I just wanted to congratulate you on the tournament and creativity.
    Kokichi the goat 🐐🐐

  • @ubiratanmagalhaes7013
    @ubiratanmagalhaes7013 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    AHHHHHH YEEEEEEEEEES, KOKICHI SOLOS BABY. 2 TIMES BY NOW, TRULY THE GOAT.
    on a serious note now, this tournament was super fun. Thank you for another W experience. Looking forward to your New videos.🥂

  • @randomperson05
    @randomperson05 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    W Nagi tournament, as long as it took, know that it was simply incredible to follow it, and I'm eagerly awaiting the next one (as well as your video of Koji vs Light)
    And damn, Kokichi taking home another tournament trophy uhh, very impressive.

  • @lefaucon330
    @lefaucon330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad I got to see the conclusion of this amazingly creative tournament. It was a ton of fun. In my eyes, your creativity makes you one of the most goated debators, even if a bit of your scaling is questionable. W edit and keep cooking 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Salizar-sm6sc
    @Salizar-sm6sc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This tournament was incredibly entertaining the whole way through, I look forward to the next one.

  • @CeruleanEyesOfValor
    @CeruleanEyesOfValor ปีที่แล้ว +9

    my opinion(kokichi>koji)
    fsiq - kokichi
    eq - yuuichi
    sq - yuuichi
    aq - yuuichi
    deception - yuuichi
    anticipation - yuuichi
    manipulation - yuuichi
    reasoning - kokichi
    thinking - yuuichi
    strategy - kokichi
    perception - kokichi
    intelligence - kokichi
    planning - yuuichi
    leadership - kokichi
    influence - kokichi
    Rls influence - kokichi
    Rls scratch - yuuichi
    nfs - yuuichi
    FS - yuuichi
    FS team based - kokichi
    winner - yuuichi very high diff🗿

    • @Light_4544
      @Light_4544 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      To bad yuuichi gets destroyed by kokichi

    • @Zequity
      @Zequity ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Too bad kokichi has W wheel spin luck

    • @storyswapchara9007
      @storyswapchara9007 ปีที่แล้ว

      anticipation and planning to yuuichi is crazy ngl

    • @CeruleanEyesOfValor
      @CeruleanEyesOfValor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@storyswapchara9007 kokichi is more of a strategy person than planning
      yuuichi does have better contingency and plan formulation
      tho the debate is between short term planning and long term planning
      imo i am a bit leaning towards yuuichi cuz i do have some reasons for yuuichi's long term planning

    • @CeruleanEyesOfValor
      @CeruleanEyesOfValor ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@storyswapchara9007 anticipation is close but i have a reason for giving it to him
      yuuichi formulated a long term plan in one glance just knowing maria was a girl
      i took him like 1-3 seconds to create the plan where he actually anticipated and planned the exact things that's going to happen in the future 6-7 days
      like he predict maria is a tg admin
      he anticipated that maria will betray his team that's why he created a full proof plan
      he anticipated the exact location of the mountain where yakutaro and his friend will be chasing him 5 days later and will need to push of maria from the cliff(calculated deadly risk of maria dying) then emotionally anticipated that yakutaro will catch maria in 3 seconds before she falls
      also saw through shinomiya was the real leader of team k then anticipated
      shinomiya's strategy of manipulating maria and getting tenji's location
      then literally told maria tenji's location on purpose so shinomiya goes their to find tenji and win the game
      but at that moment when everyone was gone he tortured yakutaro's ass and blackmailed and manipulated team k's fake leader with a phone call to press the give up button or he will break both of yakutaro's hands , he then made him press the buzzer 3 seconds before the game ended and won-
      -- it needed yuuichi 1-3 seconds to claculate the risks , formulate plan A and B and make it so unpredictable and complex asf while anticipating insane things like pushing maria from the cliff and yakutaro catching her also making a long term plan where he planned everything that happend in the future 7 days
      that's why he asked at first if maria was a girl or not so he could decieve everyone through maria and backfire her plan to make it even more complex

  • @CeruleanEyesOfValor
    @CeruleanEyesOfValor ปีที่แล้ว +17

    my prediction - yuuichi wins high diff💀
    edit: very bad prediction💀

  • @KaitKait-q5w
    @KaitKait-q5w 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the Anime = their Evil 😅
    In the Manga = their demons 😈

  • @samarthdhar6558
    @samarthdhar6558 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think kokichi takes this one

  • @Waltu2
    @Waltu2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ayo final of Koji victims wilding 👽

  • @kingbob02
    @kingbob02 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn that so GOOD bruh🔥🔥🔥

  • @A_CatgirI
    @A_CatgirI ปีที่แล้ว

    As a kokichi simp i see this as an absolute w

  • @the_scarlet_emperor
    @the_scarlet_emperor ปีที่แล้ว

    W tournament, bro. Looking forward to the next one.
    Just hope Kanade doesn't get pulled into the Backrooms this time 😂

  • @studead874
    @studead874 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We know the goat is gonna win

    • @MoonS4444
      @MoonS4444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok but which one?

    • @hola89
      @hola89 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MoonS4444both are

  • @storyswapchara9007
    @storyswapchara9007 ปีที่แล้ว

    W the supreme leader slams! + dominated the wheel.
    Ngl Once yuuichi got outsmarting average it was over. Enjoyed the tournament alot, very creative.

  • @gonfreecss6193
    @gonfreecss6193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent tournament

  • @TheDarkerLife
    @TheDarkerLife ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Alright, now that the tournament is over, I have 3 major takes that I heavily disagree with. (I won't mention smaller disagreements since they are debatable imo)
    - Makishima vs Light
    How did Light win? Makishima mid diff. (outsmarting without extras)
    - Light vs Takuya
    How did Takuya win here??? Light is about Koji level, imo Light>Koji but that may be debatable.
    - Lelouch vs Nagito
    You having Nagito>Lelouch in outsmarting is crazy. Lelouch wins, difficulty is debatable, Mid diff imo.
    Anyways, incredible edits, incredibly unique tournament, what do you want more?? I feel like some characters got a bit too lucky, but that's beside the point. I always looked forward to another edit, and even though I often disagreed, I loved the edits.
    Keep up the great work :)

    • @Nagi_Komaeda
      @Nagi_Komaeda  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much! Let me explain a few things:
      Makishima vs. Light:
      Okay, my bad, I admit it, but the outcome wouldn't have changed due to the extras, so Light wins.
      Light vs. Takuya:
      I still believe there's a misunderstanding. In the edit, Light wins with high difficulty by outsmarting Takuya, but due to the extras, Takuya wins the matchup because of the "no rules" (an overpowered benefit).
      Nagito vs. Lelouch:
      Here, there are two issues. I scaled Nagito high, and I hadn't fully read Lelouch's document, which is why that result happened.

    • @TheDarkerLife
      @TheDarkerLife ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nagi_Komaeda Oh that Light vs Takuya one I remembered wrong, sorry ;-;
      Although I feel like Mid diff makes more sense, that's makes things clearer, sorry, my fault!
      Btw don't stress yourself too much with your upload schedule, there are more important things in life :D

  • @Darrmi
    @Darrmi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My prediction is that yuuichi will win high - extreme diff

  • @kiyo34
    @kiyo34 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a good and creative tournament 👏

  • @DereEXE
    @DereEXE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The wheel slammed my boy yuuichi still W tourny
    Btw where did you find those yuuichi and kokichi animations?

  • @kilato9649
    @kilato9649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    W Kokichi is simply to overpowered + without the extra rules Kokichi takes it low diff and I say this as a fan of both

  • @vanillaren7910
    @vanillaren7910 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a creative tournament W

  • @astato.
    @astato. ปีที่แล้ว

    W Tournament + W edit

  • @Crem0
    @Crem0 ปีที่แล้ว

    GG'Sssss W Tournament bro

  • @spaceandstuff4736
    @spaceandstuff4736 ปีที่แล้ว

    Placing my bets on Kokichi

  • @ticktackt0md.217
    @ticktackt0md.217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If someone might be interested:
    Kills:
    Kokichi: 6
    Nagito: 2
    Takuya: 6
    Light: 8
    Fyodor: 3
    Dazai: 5
    L: 2
    Midori: 1
    Ichika: 1
    Izuru: 4
    Junko: 1
    Sherlock Holmes: 1
    Riku Dola: 1
    Baku: 1
    Makishima: 2
    Yokoya: 2
    Akiyama: 1
    Yuuichi: 3
    1. Victim: Keiji
    2. Victim: Akira
    3. Victim: BB
    4. Victim: Oreki
    5. Victim: Nagumo
    6. Victim: Kimura Kei
    7. Victim: Kei
    8. Victim: Wiliam Moriarty
    9. Victim: "Oreki, Kei"
    10. Victim: Hachiman, Shinji Shiba
    11. Victim: Mello
    12. Victim: Iori Omoto
    13. Victim: Lelouch Lamperouge
    14. Victim: Johan
    15. Victim: Sora
    16. Victim: Siesta
    17. Victim: Junko
    18. Victim: Sherlock Holmes
    19. Victim: "Keiji, Nagumo"
    20. Victim: Ranpo, Riku Dola, Makima, Ichika
    21. Victim: Shiro
    22. Victim: Yumeko Jabami (Kanade Otonokoji)
    23. Victim: Toya Shiroyanagi
    24. Victim: Near
    25. Victim: Friend
    26. Victim: Tomohiro Machiya
    27. Victim: Kirari Momobami
    28. Victim: Kaito Kuraba
    29. Victim: Conan Edogawa
    Resurrection: Lelouch Lamperouge
    31. Victim: Sou Hiyori
    32. Victim: Baku
    33. Victim: Kiyotaka Ayanokoji
    34. Victim: Lelouch Lamperouge
    35. Victim: Yokoya
    36. Victim: Makishima
    37. Victim: Midori
    38. Victim: L
    39. Victim: Dazai
    40. Victim: Nagito
    41. Victim: Akiyama
    42. Victim: Fyodor
    43. Victim: Takuya
    44. Victim: Light
    45. Victim: Yuuichi
    Winner: Kokichi

    • @Nagi_Komaeda
      @Nagi_Komaeda  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Light yagami MVP 🍷

    • @ticktackt0md.217
      @ticktackt0md.217 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nagi_Komaeda if Part 20 wouldn't have happened Light would have lesser kills. I mean with that that someone else could have had more kills than him. (Or some characters could have gotten a kill)

  • @Light_4544
    @Light_4544 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Told yall kokichi no diff

  • @N1GG4T1V3
    @N1GG4T1V3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cómo estos dos llegaron a la final? Pregunta seria XD

    • @Nagi_Komaeda
      @Nagi_Komaeda  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      JAAJJA torneo impredecible la verdad, hasta yo quede xD

  • @Dieubietkhoc
    @Dieubietkhoc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what was tokita strategy ?????

  • @muhammadeyssa23648
    @muhammadeyssa23648 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Despite how rigged this tournament was and very clear how you messed around with the wheel a bit. Pretty good finale. W’s I Guess. Don’t really care for Kokichi tbf but yeah.

    • @Nagi_Komaeda
      @Nagi_Komaeda  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If it was rigged Nagito or Koji winners end...

  • @Fyodder
    @Fyodder 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can someone explain what is FRI pls

  • @yamez6118
    @yamez6118 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great tournament

  • @hskim6778
    @hskim6778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think 1.5x speed is better

  • @MID_MYTIO
    @MID_MYTIO ปีที่แล้ว

    W tournament fr❤

  • @shark_y
    @shark_y 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can i please get the song name

  • @alexsharm91119
    @alexsharm91119 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's what you are getting after scamming people😭😭😭

  • @epsilon795
    @epsilon795 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't understand most of these categories but I'll act like I do

  • @Cali._
    @Cali._ ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice tournament ❤

  • @Dariki-18-
    @Dariki-18- ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm on side Yuuichi but let's see what is gonna happen

  • @YNFaynil
    @YNFaynil 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's all fun and games until They get Izuru. 💀

  • @kamaldass8101
    @kamaldass8101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music name ?

  • @x320
    @x320 ปีที่แล้ว

    W final
    W tournament
    W everthying

  • @Frozg
    @Frozg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe kokichi wins high diff, maybe lower too idk

    • @hola89
      @hola89 ปีที่แล้ว

      With buffs and nerfs theres no debate

  • @KSD...
    @KSD... ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No diff💀
    The light vicitm destroyed the whell...

    • @BarbaDauva
      @BarbaDauva ปีที่แล้ว

      Light victim is Kokichi or Yuuichi?

    • @KSD...
      @KSD... ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BarbaDauva both.

    • @BarbaDauva
      @BarbaDauva ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KSD... do you really think so?

    • @KSD...
      @KSD... ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BarbaDauva yea

    • @BarbaDauva
      @BarbaDauva ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KSD... But why? Light was really stupid many times in Death Note

  • @rickyantonio1523
    @rickyantonio1523 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Song name please 🙏

  • @The_SlaughterDz
    @The_SlaughterDz ปีที่แล้ว

    The edit was incr but the end…
    Yuuichi lost his luck…

  • @kokichisolos
    @kokichisolos ปีที่แล้ว +3

    W tourney, Kokichi low diffs
    Disagree = Debate me

    • @DereEXE
      @DereEXE ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree but will not debate EZZZ

    • @kokichisolos
      @kokichisolos ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DereEXE Mid

  • @GoatAidenPearce822
    @GoatAidenPearce822 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is enemy verse?

    • @hola89
      @hola89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Enemy verse (only appeared in kokichi vs sou)
      If someone gets this, the other persons that are in the game are changes by their characters verse (randomly)

  • @MagnumOpus-dm7tv
    @MagnumOpus-dm7tv ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice. Though Yuuichi outsmarts.

    • @nywalt
      @nywalt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah so?

    • @MagnumOpus-dm7tv
      @MagnumOpus-dm7tv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nywalt what so?

    • @nywalt
      @nywalt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MagnumOpus-dm7tv kokichi still fodderized

    • @MagnumOpus-dm7tv
      @MagnumOpus-dm7tv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nywalt No? Do you think by a simple edit it means Kokichi fodderized? What are you; a useless, pathetic guy or something?

    • @UN_Violet
      @UN_Violet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MagnumOpus-dm7tvKokichi massacres lmfao, cry about it bozo

  • @Yukita_Av0
    @Yukita_Av0 ปีที่แล้ว

    W Edits

  • @springyboi7373
    @springyboi7373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    W Kokichi

  • @mglsubedei
    @mglsubedei 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i be*lie*ve kokichi manipulated nagikomeada and "the wheel "by removing kanade,

  • @amlopresidente6357
    @amlopresidente6357 ปีที่แล้ว

    Massive kokichi win

  • @ghostdoggo4057
    @ghostdoggo4057 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kokichi takes it high diff at least imo,, both solo Koji /hj

  • @Darkx_xLord
    @Darkx_xLord 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ayo no way bro no dif Yuichi

  • @ggxsky4811
    @ggxsky4811 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kokichi extreme diffs

  • @ticktackt0md.217
    @ticktackt0md.217 ปีที่แล้ว

    W tournament

  • @MinhaMarzia
    @MinhaMarzia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im so happy kokichi won!!

  • @mymyth_
    @mymyth_ ปีที่แล้ว

    W tourney

  • @springyboi7373
    @springyboi7373 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Extras made this tournament very fun and unpredictable.
    L Dazai

  • @Mortal.0s
    @Mortal.0s 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Black Takuya victims

  • @rimurusensei7
    @rimurusensei7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yayy my bbg won

  • @ImadFddvhhhf
    @ImadFddvhhhf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I win

  • @Joerixyz
    @Joerixyz ปีที่แล้ว

    W

  • @richsmil0
    @richsmil0 ปีที่แล้ว

    w

  • @cell5560
    @cell5560 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such a trash final for smart characters tournament

    • @DrQuezar
      @DrQuezar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah that was fun

  • @NoMoreWhat-Ifs
    @NoMoreWhat-Ifs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People who've actually played Danganronpa know Yuuichi gets strategy, because Ouma has no strategic feats 😂. Like, at all. Not one. If anything, you would give Kokichi observation and potentially planning if you consider CT 3-6 that impressive, but we haven't seen even a single strategic feat from the Supreme Leader, because Danganronpa is first and foremost a mystery narrative that has almost no instances of direct outsmarting. The characters create some really intelligent schemes and difficult murder cases, but we haven't seen them go head to head with eachother in real time nearly at all; it's always about deducing what's already been done, rather than controlling what's currently being done to your favor. It's for this reason that I don't see why Danganronpa is even brought up in this community. With that said, Yuuichi > Kokichi in outsmarting, (mid-high difficulty,) manipulation (low difficulty)

    • @greedyintensesniffer9844
      @greedyintensesniffer9844 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What are you talking about? Are you sure we played the same game? Chapter 4? Hell even in chapter 2, Kokichi has built up a strategy.
      And chapter 6? What strategy? Kokichis dead, and it makes me wonder if you really know hat you are talking about. This guy is generous, he made it high diff. Plus even if you cry about there not being any strategy, there are other categories where kokichi utterly demolishes (Fsiq, logic and reasoning, anticipation, prediction, seeing through people, cold reading, you can even say eq is debatable, leadership, knowledge, planning). You saying yuuichi mid-high diffs is pure cap, i sesly hope you are trolling.

    • @NoMoreWhat-Ifs
      @NoMoreWhat-Ifs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@greedyintensesniffer9844 I meant to say 3-5, but I'm typing on an android with big thumbs, so the 5 and the 6 are right next to eachother. Anyway, I'm going to need you to precisely describe Kokichi's direct strategy feats that are in the ballpark of Yuuichi's prison game werewolf strategy, the all bet special method strategy, or the Friendless Game strategy, all of which I think are more complex than anything Kokichi's done besides the exisal hidden identity plan. And by the way, where are Kokichi's logical reasoning feats?
      Eq isn't even slightly debatable, all of the other students in V3 are very inexperienced in manipulation besides Tsumugi, which means deceiving and outsmarting them isn't very impressive, while Yuuichi was perfectly perceiving and totally demolishing experienced swindlers and psychological manipulators like Taneda and Kamishiro who are years to decades older than him. He saw through Kuroki's friendship bait in the Prison game, he saw through Kokorogi's brainwashing in the all-bet game, he saw through Shinji's insecurities and flaws in one conversation, he perfectly diagnosed the personalities and weaknesses of group k in the hide and seek game, he just has way more perception and cold reading feats than Kokichi. I can definitely see Kokichi with planning and leadership, but besides that, I can't see the angle you're coming from.

    • @greedyintensesniffer9844
      @greedyintensesniffer9844 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@NoMoreWhat-Ifs Eq is important to have in manipulation, yes, but manipulation does not correlate directly to how good someone's Eq is.
      Hmmm, I honestly think seeing through people is Kokichi's best attribute. He quite literally saw through Maki's act as to being a Child care giver since chapter 1 as he directly implied her hidden talent before he exposed her in chapter 2 (this is one of the first instances with them interacting with each other), Kokichi constantly mindread the protags, saw through the baits Monokuma was placing for them, saw through the fact that the killing game was directed to the world since chapter 2, and this isn't even mentioning the fact that he quite literally picked up on any statement that even resembled a lie.
      Kokichi's reasoning feats are quite consistent throughout the game honestly. Plus, it is revealed by the end of chapter 5 that he quite literally solved all of the cases within his own room during investigation time, which displays great deduction, moreso that what I remember Yuuichi ever doing.
      You don't find his strategy in chapter 4 impressive? He witnessed Miu's despair in the beginning of the chapter and immediately realized that she was formulating a murder plan in the simulation world (he constantly sees through people like this). He goes to Monokuma after finding out that the world has been destroyed. He manipulate Monokuma into changing the location of the motive by moving it into the virtual world by using monokuma's urge for a more "entertaining murder" as a bait and accomplishes three things: He can manipulate Gonta later for his already thought out strategy (which he formed in a very short period of time), used it in order to bait the class into going into the virtual world in search of clues for a way out of the killing game, and convinces Miu that he has full faith in her. Kokichi then learns all of the secrets to the virtual world on his own in a short period of time and sets his plan to motion. Miu is still unaware that Kokichi saw through her entire murder strategy, which is a respectable plan in itself.
      Essentially, Miu created a virtual world with "people" and "objects." She coded herself as an object and only objects are allowed to become permeable through the "ending walls" of the virtual world. These "endings world walls" are actually just loops to the world in which only objects can pass through and Miu made herself as an object. There's more to this, but you get the idea.
      So Kokichi uses the motive he planted earlier and predicted nobody would go there and I'm sure you know the outcome of what happened when he manipulated gonta.
      Kokichi also read all of Shuichi's lies even when they were all valid facts that he couldn't have possibly known.
      Anyways, you quite literally said there are no direct outsmarting scenarios when chapter 4 is literally this. Albeit Kokichi didn't have an incredibly smart opponent, but his preparations and strategy is perfect with incredibly fast adaptability. To give you reference, he set this all up in a day, the same day Miu cried out in the cafeteria and Kokichi saw through her entire plan with just that. And this is only one strategy of Kokichi, though it is closest to an outsmarting scenario. Also outsmarting someone who has direct control over the fictional world (tsumugi) is impressive in itself.
      The exisal strategy that you speak ofwas formulated while Kokichi was dying. He created it all as he was being attacked by Maki, so that strategy was actually a desperate attempt honestly. Still a great strategy that took approximately half an hour to set up tho (since Kokichi is dying throughout the entire process)

    • @ぼーい
      @ぼーい 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I can't believe it. Kokichi's strategy is very complex and it is the top of all works. There is no character who can beat Kokichi with logical manipulation.

  • @YuuichiGiri
    @YuuichiGiri ปีที่แล้ว

    W tournament

    • @Nagi_Komaeda
      @Nagi_Komaeda  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, I hope Nagito wins yours🍷🗿

  • @ilovecamie
    @ilovecamie ปีที่แล้ว

    W