Hi, David. I tried to master fire ploughing for years. I succeeded just once. When it worked, it was so easy, in about 30 seconds. I used Ash on Ash, with a very narrow profile on the plough, a bit like a ruler on its edge. I put Tobacco dust at the end of the groove, and it was that which smouldered.
Awesome man, I tried a fire plough for the first time this evening got smoke but nothing more? Pushing hard wood against softwood base...good work , if I don't succeed I will try hand drill method...you made it look easy!😀
All of the hot dust gets knocked away and spread out flat. When cutting your flat section fold the wood up at the end creating a wall, and carve a little pit into its base to collect the dust. Thus all the hot dust will be concentrated together at the wall.
The fire plow is a polynesian technique. The way they do it is they cut a live green branch of the wild hibiscus ,strip off the bark and let it sun dry for a few weeks.if u do the same with mimosa it will blow your mind the difference it makes instead of using a branch that is dry due to rot or disease.ive had much succses this way with willow and mimosa .get u a moisture meter and let it dry until its 15 percent with the prongs barried in the wood .it still has to be a dry day outside cant be rainy or the ember wont ignight .i live in upper florida right under florala alabama ill be starting a channel here soon after i master the plow
I feel certain that we would have massive family wealth if only one of my forefathers had been clever enough to sell butane lighters to Native Americans.
6:50 they should call this technique steam train fire Edit: I've tried the bambo fire saw technique and i found it very hard to fix the bambo part to avoid slicking.I think a very import tip is making your self most confortable you can while doing friction
In my SCA class on firemaking, the fire plow style we were instructed to make included a deep V notch down the length of the fire platform board, and to use a flat or broadly rounded tip on the firestick doing the plowing. It was explained that the deep V of the notch cut in the platform allowed air to get down to the dust as it heated up, permitting faster ignition into an actual ember. Have you tried that version?
+ladyofthemasque No, I've tried a lot of different times with no success. I don't want to work that hard to make friction fire so I stopped trying. Have you achieved the Fire Plow Ember yet?
+David West I did not, but a classmate did, longer stroke, like around a foot I think, with a straight V notch. He put his upper body weight into it, killer ab/back workout.
Great videos! Watching your fire roll vids, you always have ashes handy. What if you don’t? While watching this video i thought to ask you if you could create all of this char dust using the plow and the put that dust in a fire roll instead of ashes. This kind of dust is certainly something that you could make in the bush... just wondering if it would make an ember?
scottt1620 I think I’ve tried failed bow Drill dust and it didn’t work. Please check out my Rudiger Roll playlist for other filler options like rust, cayenne pepper, and others.
I love your videos. You show the bad with the good. You are the friction fire king. I thing you could build a fire by rubbing to pieces of bacon together. I like your little saw, could you show it in more detail?
+james green The Chinese Saw? I bought it 25 years ago to cut PVC pipes out from under sinks. It just mostly sat around, unused, for 20 years until I realized, as thin as it was, that it would be great to cut notches. The other saw is a Corona from Lowe's for $20. Thanks!
David it Be NIÇE if you can used wood that we can get in the northern part of Canada and Alaska like spruce Aspen or black spruce whit the Fire plow Thank you to spend all that energy for us
You would have gotten that if you had softer wood and the blade thickness was about 1/4 to 3/8ths inch. Start off with some large yucca (if you can't get sotol from the southwest). Yucca blade on yucca base. When you are plowing on the base, start from the inside softer heartwood burning toward the harder outside. Keep Going!
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl i just saw someone succeed with buckeye base and horsetail flower stalk. But the groove was more round than V shaped and the baton edge was narrow. he tried buckeye on buckeye with 17 failures first.
I tried this one time and decided I never wanted to work this hard again trying to make this technique work with the wrong materials. Sotol, I believe is what they call one of the best materials to use.
too much movement in your table, David. From what I" ve seen others do, they are further back away from the board, on their knees, using their bodyweight. That's not physically possible for me anymore and maybe not for you, either. One guy emphasizes starting with a chisel point, not a rounded one.
Hi David! I ran across this one thanks to the algorithm. Brother, you worked like a mule on that plough and I was impressed!
Thanks Terry!
Hi, David. I tried to master fire ploughing for years. I succeeded just once. When it worked, it was so easy, in about 30 seconds. I used Ash on Ash, with a very narrow profile on the plough, a bit like a ruler on its edge. I put Tobacco dust at the end of the groove, and it was that which smouldered.
You have come a long way in six years.
Love that little saw. I was researching fire plow for my next learning curve and, of course, you are already on it - the fire master!
+Eric Hollifield Thanks friend. I've about given up on the fire plow. Looks like yucca from the west and soto is what works. Don't have them. Thanks!
Awesome man, I tried a fire plough for the first time this evening got smoke but nothing more? Pushing hard wood against softwood base...good work , if I don't succeed I will try hand drill method...you made it look easy!😀
Soft woods from the desert work best. I am thinking... Sotol I think is one of them.
All of the hot dust gets knocked away and spread out flat. When cutting your flat section fold the wood up at the end creating a wall, and carve a little pit into its base to collect the dust. Thus all the hot dust will be concentrated together at the wall.
The fire plow is a polynesian technique. The way they do it is they cut a live green branch of the wild hibiscus ,strip off the bark and let it sun dry for a few weeks.if u do the same with mimosa it will blow your mind the difference it makes instead of using a branch that is dry due to rot or disease.ive had much succses this way with willow and mimosa .get u a moisture meter and let it dry until its 15 percent with the prongs barried in the wood .it still has to be a dry day outside cant be rainy or the ember wont ignight .i live in upper florida right under florala alabama ill be starting a channel here soon after i master the plow
Everything you say makes perfect sense. TY!
I thought you we were going to get it. You still make hand drill look easy.
Marlin883 I think with the right wood, it'll happen. Thanks!
El metodo es muy fácil pero la punta debe ser pequeña para que el calor se concentre en un pequeño punto
Thank You!
I feel certain that we would have massive family wealth if only one of my forefathers had been clever enough to sell butane lighters to Native Americans.
Funny
6:50 they should call this technique steam train fire
Edit: I've tried the bambo fire saw technique and i found it very hard to fix the bambo part to avoid slicking.I think a very import tip is making your self most confortable you can while doing friction
I hope you’ll watch my recent bamboo fire saw video from last week.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl yes i ll
whats best wood to use for this pine cedar?
Man, you make that hand drill look easy!
Which method is the easiest for you? Bamboo plow?
Bamboo Fire saw is easier to get ignition but hand drill is more fun less prep.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl Got it. 😎👍🏼
The fire whisperer!
In my SCA class on firemaking, the fire plow style we were instructed to make included a deep V notch down the length of the fire platform board, and to use a flat or broadly rounded tip on the firestick doing the plowing. It was explained that the deep V of the notch cut in the platform allowed air to get down to the dust as it heated up, permitting faster ignition into an actual ember. Have you tried that version?
+ladyofthemasque No, I've tried a lot of different times with no success. I don't want to work that hard to make friction fire so I stopped trying. Have you achieved the Fire Plow Ember yet?
+David West I did not, but a classmate did, longer stroke, like around a foot I think, with a straight V notch. He put his upper body weight into it, killer ab/back workout.
Would you say the fire plow is harder than the hand drill
Yes. I won’t try the fire plow again because it’s so physically demanding… No, I may try it some day with Sotol or Hybiscus.
I'm learning fireplow with yucca. Getting smoke but no ember. Did you managed to get one in the end?
No, I don’t want to work that hard again.
Lot of work I like that cotton better
Great videos! Watching your fire roll vids, you always have ashes handy. What if you don’t? While watching this video i thought to ask you if you could create all of this char dust using the plow and the put that dust in a fire roll instead of ashes. This kind of dust is certainly something that you could make in the bush... just wondering if it would make an ember?
scottt1620 I think I’ve tried failed bow Drill dust and it didn’t work. Please check out my Rudiger Roll playlist for other filler options like rust, cayenne pepper, and others.
love the video ive never tried the fire plow on another note how thick would you say the fire board has to be for a hand drill hearth
+LG4 OUTDOORS About as thick as the spindle hot end or smaller. Thanks! Joerobinet bushcraft has the best how to hand drill video. Thanks!
I love your videos. You show the bad with the good. You are the friction fire king. I thing you could build a fire by rubbing to pieces of bacon together. I like your little saw, could you show it in more detail?
+james green The Chinese Saw? I bought it 25 years ago to cut PVC pipes out from under sinks. It just mostly sat around, unused, for 20 years until I realized, as thin as it was, that it would be great to cut notches. The other saw is a Corona from Lowe's for $20. Thanks!
Looks like a Japanese Pruning saw or similar. Cuts on the draw doesn't it?
yes
David it Be NIÇE if you can used wood that we can get in the northern part of Canada and Alaska like spruce Aspen or black spruce whit the Fire plow
Thank you to spend all that energy for us
There's woods from tropical areas that works easily. I won't be trying again with our local woods.
👍👍👍👍👍
You would have gotten that if you had softer wood and the blade thickness was about 1/4 to 3/8ths inch. Start off with some large yucca (if you can't get sotol from the southwest). Yucca blade on yucca base. When you are plowing on the base, start from the inside softer heartwood burning toward the harder outside. Keep Going!
+Phyre Dojo I have very small yucca flower stalks here in SC... but I think I can make them work. Thanks for the advice and the encouragement.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl i just saw someone succeed with buckeye base and horsetail flower stalk. But the groove was more round than V shaped and the baton edge was narrow. he tried buckeye on buckeye with 17 failures first.
Thanks TPD!
If u can not do it I sure the hell am not going to even try
I've tried it several times and always failed!
I tried this one time and decided I never wanted to work this hard again trying to make this technique work with the wrong materials. Sotol, I believe is what they call one of the best materials to use.
I tried for 2 hours and the wood didn't even change
If you had a notch at the end of your board you would have had it.
too much movement in your table, David. From what I" ve seen others do, they are further back away from the board, on their knees, using their bodyweight. That's not physically possible for me anymore and maybe not for you, either. One guy emphasizes starting with a chisel point, not a rounded one.
Yes, that was a long time ago.