What Is Happening to Subaru Inventory Right Now? Car Salesman Shares THE TRUTH
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- Today I share details on what is happening to Subaru inventory in February 2024. Throughout the last few years, Subaru inventory has been limited, making it difficult to purchase one. Has inventory finally caught up with demand? Can you get a discount on a new Subaru in 2024? I answer these questions and more in todays video.
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The truth is Subaru, Toyota, and others made more expensive models and less of the base models. The cheaper the model, the quicker they get sold. The more expensive the model, the longer it sits on the lot. The manufacturers are sitting on a bunch of expensive cars that few people are interested in.
i bought the 24 crosstrek limited. no way i was buying a base. didnt like the premium and didnt have the sport in what i wanted.
waited 3 weeks for the limited. it had to be shipped from a different island.
if im gonna buy a new car, im gonna get exactly the way i want.
@@flippino35Crosstrek limited is a GREAT car! Drives awesome. Sadly I had to transfer mine in because it was too small for me. 😢
No, not really.
Higher trims of Subaru are popular.
Exactly.
Exactly. We just bought a base model Outback. The dealer's lot was FULL of inventory, probably 100 cars sitting in the lot. We bought the only base model.
Prices have risen a lot per model as well, not just interest rates. Companies are now charging crazy prices for vehicles (not just Subaru) and people can't afford it.
@@apatterson619loans allow people to buy things they can’t afford
When you account for inflation, Subarus are similarly priced to 10-20 years ago.
Sorry to disagree here, but we paid $30 k for out 2013 Outback limited and just checked , found out they are now selling for about $40K ( might have to wait for the last day of 2014 ( Dec 31 2024 ) and buy what they have on the lot , LOL ) Drive safe out there stash. @@crashthestash
Just bought an Outback Limited with a few options, an outrageous $42,000.
I paid close to that in 2015 when they offered 3.Rs, front and back cameras, Harmon Karden sound system, very comfortable seats (which the 2024 do not offer). Few options? Why buy?@@EducatedNow
The "truth" is, you forgot to mention price. A 5%-10% discount on a vehicle that is overpriced by 30% is why people are waiting to purchase new autos. The consumer automotive price index is still at parabolic levels and a sizeable return to the mean is the next move. I'd say, take a look at the discounts around June/July to gauge whether to purchase a new auto. Get more of them bigger discounts going and then you will see the purchases you would like to see. Pro tip for those looking to buy now... Look for autos that have been on the lot for several months. Deals can be made on those that have been sitting around a while.
Also by June or July the 2025s will start coming so dealers will have to discount the 2024s to move them to make room for the new model year...
the problem is the amount of money out there. they lowered the number of cars made. and number of customers is big. so, they r following this 'classic' supply-demand game and they inflated the prices *A LOT*!
@@truckercowboyed2638yes but people trading in or selling their vehicles will get a lot less as well.
The subaru dealer near me is offering like 1-2k off msrps on a lot of their vehicles
@@Hallowsaw this $1-2K (wow! 100% variation. u c how B$ starts?) is B$. MSRP is an already inflated number, so talking about 'off of MSRP' is just a trick.
do u know how many categories of 'kickback' from manufacturer they get? The *MSRP* figure is total B$. Even the *invoce* figure is B$. Destination charge is B$ (y is it [almost] the same 4 *ALL* the dealers all over the country? which 'destination' do they even mean?) Do u know about holdbacks? Do u know about 'factory-2-dealer' cashback which varies wildly depending on the number of cars sold and on the timing (1st qt, 2nd qt, mid-year, end of year)?
this is just a 'feeder' created for this kind of 'business' which creates *NEGATIVE* surplus (sic! an oxymoron... or rather just a 'moron') value 4 the society. instead of creating any value they waste resources.
cars r no different than milk, bread, cheese, produce etc. u buy from a grocery store. in fact, they r even better (don't need any preservatives and have pretty long shelf life compared 2 food products).
they should b sold exactly the same way. instead we got this 'dealership' business where u haggle w/sales pplz 4 a better price. do u ever haggle over the price of a loaf of bread at the cash register at your local grocery store?
this (car sales business) is total B$. i hate it.
Just got a great price on a new '24 Outback Limited XT and took advantage of the 1.9% rates, it's a crazy good deal considering high-yield savings accounts are around 4.5%! Love the turbo even with babying it during the break-in period.
Bought 2016 Legacy new,i now have driven 242,000 km with regular oil changes,brake work and a few small repairs,hopefully it will get me through another couple of Year’s of comfortable driving.
150k miles
Does your model have the cvt?
Alex, I’m new to your site and enjoy it and have learned a lot. If you have not done so can you do a session on Certified Used Subaru’s. I have a 2021 Outback Limited and it was a Certified Used one that I love. Great price point plus.
I literally just bought a 2024 crosstrek premium in November - (I was able to pay cash so maybe that helped) but the model I wanted with the extras I ordered took an extra 6 weeks to get here from Japan. I paid a but over 31k
Absolutely love my crosstrek!
I bought a offshore blue crosstrek premium in the beginning of may with I think has every available option for 31,000
my local dealership doesnt stock the crosstrek limited and had to be shipped from a different island. i waited a few weeks for it
I ordered a 2024 Forester Premium (with added options)on October 26th 2023. There were no Forester's on the lot.....2023 or 2024. I received the 2024 December 6th 2023. Of course I had to pay full MSRP......but not over MSRP. I paid cash, plus had a trade-in. The color I wanted was Ice Silver Metallic. The dealership attempted to find a 23 or 24 Forester in that color, but none in the pipeline. I did find it strange....the trade-in value was $2000.00 less for the 2024 Forester vs the 2023. So I'm glad I got the 2024 vs. waiting for the 2025. Overall I really enjoy the 2024 Forester. Great vehicle!!
@user-ok9oj9wd5s NO. usually keep my vehicles from 7-10 years.
My luck is bad last summer my truck finally died on me after 25 years and i was desperate and wanted to buy outright. Planned on getting a Toyota because of good reputation and longevity. Once i found out it would cost me in the 40's i said lets check out Subaru Foresters. Shocked to see only a handful of the higher priced vehicles on most dealership lots. Bottom line i settled for a premium Subaru Forester for one reason only because it would arrive in 4 days. I paid alittle under the sticker which i never did years ago it would be thousands less but different times i guess. Just disappointed with interest rates higher there are finally cars on dealership lots. I probably could have saved st least a grand if i bought a Forester this month. Oh well thats life. Side note car seems pretty nice after 1,800 miles a big change since i never bought a new car before only new pickups in the past 40 years.
Congrats on your Forester! Many dealers were still selling Foresters at full MSRP just a few months back so it sounds like you got a great deal. Let's assume though that you could have got an even further discount from what you already received. Renting a car or dealing with maintenance on your old truck could have easily been more than the potential discount on the Forester.
Foresters are being sold for 3000 below MSRP in Massachusetts.
Lucky you got a Forester. Totaled my Rogue in 2020 and just been driving the family c240. Much cheaper than buying a new car today.
thats was great Alex, thanks a lot 👍
Just pick up a 2024 Forrester Wilderness last Monday. Very pleased so far.
It took me eight months to get my 2023 M/T Crosstrek convenience last year, and almost didn’t, as mine was one of the last to enter Canada…. Love it! Now I’m honestly seeing more 2024s on the road than 2nd Gen, so Subaru has certainly ramped up production with the US plant, they are everywhere…🏇🏾
All those salespeople with the take it or leave it attitude, are going to have to relearn their sales techniques 😁
Last week I picked up a 2024 Outback Onyx ZT in Autumn Green with sticker of $41,700 with popular options package #2 for almost 8% off sticker and the 1.9% financing for 48 months! Popular package #2 includes rear seat back protector, all weather floor liners, LED upgrade, Splash Guards, Ext Auto Dim mirrors that also light up the ground as you approach the car, and rear bumper cover. Upgraded Harmon Kardon sound system and heated steering wheel are great for 2024 models. Everything I wanted including the 2.4L Turbo boxer engine.
What state do you live in?
We got a Forester Limited last August. It is our second Subaru. We got 3.9% at that time. I'd love 1.9% but it is what it is. This care is loaded and was 37,000 and some change. I was sorry they didn't have a Hybrid. Would have loved that.
@@willwilliam217 Philadelphia PA suburbs.
@@pamelawing5747 I have bought 5 Volvos in a row since 1996. This is my first Subaru. Gotta stay with the safety aspect! So far extremely happy with the Outback.
@@retired4goodIt seems Subaru has a pretty good reputation and our dealership here is wonderful. (Reno) They sell a LOT of Subarus here. Seems most popular cars, are the ones I tend to see the most in the parking lots are Subaru, Toyota, Nissan, and Lexus. Glad you like your Outback.
This is great news. Thank you.
Does any Subaru dealer give the guaranteed trade-in value that My Subaru app shows? I tried to buy a 2024 Outback Touring XT and trade-in in my 2017 Subaru Forester Touring with 132k miles. My Subaru app says $13,500 but the dealer said 10k. The dealer gave a ton of reasons why the My Subaru est is a perfect world. I am going file a complaint with Subaru corporate, their trade-in value is misleading.
It all depends on the model. I’ve been looking at the crosstrek with the 2.5. I find plenty of 2.0 models on the lot that they are willing to wiggle on. Anything with the 2.5 they are sitting on and holding at msrp. 5 to 1 are the 2.0 on the lot.
The wilderness model you will be lucky to pick and choose anything you are looking for. All at msrp or in transit. It’s still a supply and demand market and Subaru knows how to play it.
ive been seeing a lot of corsstrek premiums and sport on the road but not limited.
lucky for me id like to be the only one with a red lithium pearl limited locally
I prefer the 2.0 since those are made in Japan. The 2.5’s in the states. No biggie perhaps. Just a preference.
What is the change that has been made in the Forester sheet metal? Has Subaru switched from steel to aluminum?
Last month, I traded in my 2022 Forester Premium for a 2024 Forester Wilderness. Because of being a repeat customer and certain service and warranty contracts, I previously had on the Premium. It gave me almost $2000.00 off of the new one.
Great information! I'm waiting for a 2025 Forester Touring model.
Three of the four automobiles I've had since 1982 (yupp, four in 42 years !?) have been Subarus.
Last two have been Forester's, and yes, I would buy a Forester Sport the day my current Forester dies (142k miles, and going strong) . . .
IF there is supply and IF the price is close-to-"reasonable".
Shhhhhh! Don't say that stuff out in public! There's lots of Subaru-haters that haunt these message threads, and they go nuts when they read comments like your's! 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Can we go to a system where we order from the factory exactly what options we want?
We likely won't see full customization because of cost. The more combinations you have, the more production lines and higher cost. However, Subaru does allow you to build with quite a few options. You can choose between color, trim, accessories, and features. Features like the moonroof, heated seats, leather/cloth interior, blind spot detection, power lift gate etc come as a package but you can opt-in/opt-out of these by choosing among the multiple trim levels and packages offered. The Outback alone has 12 different combinations to choose from when you look at trim level/optional packages.
Better on a lot and get it there then just clicking on an iPad
Just bought an outback onyx last week. I got it for 35400. I think the MSRP was 38 something . I sold my Ranger private sale for 32K and paid the difference. Pretty happy.
You did well on the price. Best of luck too!
Happy to hear you got a great deal!
my guaranteed trade in price is 19.9K on my 2020 Crosstrek hope I can swing a sweet deal on a 2024 Crosstrek!!
I don't know about the supply chain in the US, but here in Southern Ontario, Canada, I ordered a 2024 Forester Touring (Canadian trim names are different than US. Turning is above the Base trim and below the others) in September and received it in mid-January. My dealer's website still lists all Forester Tourings as "Coming Soon." Other trim levels seem to have a few on the lot. The car was definitely worth the wait, but there were days when it seemed like it would never come.
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Thank you Susan! 😊
The model which I have owned 3 of and he didn't mention is the Forester. Makes me wonder why because we are about to trade in the old one for a new one.
My local Subaru dealers lot is full. They have reduced the "market adjustment" by half on their window stickers. They have even taken discounts off the original MSRP on some models on the lot.
Subaru markets for MSRP I would not purchase unless so. That dealer should be reprimanded!
That is just about every lot you see. People are tired of being gouged at every turn.
I bought my Outback in October and got $2,500 off MSRP.
Alex. I have a 2024 outback touring. Do you know if in reverse the yellow guidance lines can be turned off. Thank you.
We just purchased a 2024 Onyx XT Edition over the weekend. We took advantage of the 1.9% financing and accepted 11% below MSRP on the model we wanted. I did a consumer report on the vehicle after test driving one at the dealership when I got home. I was wondering if the dealership is informed of the query and then sends out email offers based on the query. The offers from the dealership had the CR logo on them. I found it interesting that the offers from the dealership had that CR logo on the top of the report.
Subaru includes the consumer report link on all their Outback advertising that I see and I never visit CR’s site.
What about ‘the forgotten one’ - the Legacy? You actually stood next to one at the start of the video so it’s not discontinued yet 😮 Hope it’s still going if I get to emigrate to Canada in the next year or so…🇨🇦
It appears to be the black sheep of the family as it’s not a soft-roader / SUV 😳
I love my 2016 Legacy! It has a V-6. It was way ahead of its time with safety features, technology!
@@ginagora8834They sit pretty low. Would it be wise to lift it?
Thank you. I love my Subaru Forester
I like the look of the legacy/outback models, I just refuse to get a cvt. I wish they'ld offer manuals or dsg type transmission in those models.
Just bought a Touring Outback last week for the price of the trim below. Good deal for a great car!
I wish I’d have been able to wait a few more months for that reason, but my transmission went out in my former car and I needed to buy in October. I still got $2,500 off MSRP at least, so I didn’t pay full price, but I wish I’d have been able to hold out a bit longer. Good deal for you!
The delaers in CT are choking on current stock. I checked 3 local dealers and they have 80 to 90 Crosstreks, 70 Outbacks and lots of stock with the other models.
I got a brand new WRX premium on the ground for over 2k off sticker price. This was 9 months ago in New England.
You got banged
Colorado here. Bought our 24 OB Touring XT last month for 1.9 at 48mo and got $4,500 off MSRP. Love the beard!
THAT is a good deal! Congrats!
We did the exact same thing just in December and in Colorado as well. Crazy
$4500 off msrp is really good! $2500 off max in VA
Mind sharing the dealership?
@@rosejensen3524 we received VIP Program pricing, this can be had at any dealership as long as qualifications are met.
Any idea about a new version outback coming? Love your presentatiions
I'd expect a new Outback in late '25 or early '26.
The Forester inventory is double to triple what the Outback inventory is in Massachusetts.
Surprised to hear that!
I’m from California and looking to purchase 2024 Subaru, Forrester sport. Most dealers discounts off MSRP are between 1,800-2,500 I’ve been talking to two dealers and asking them sell me your then one that’s been on the lot the longest I found two that been on the lot for 91 days and 94 days. Both dealers are willing to sell $4,000 off MSRP nothing else no third party install items. In today market I don’t see another great time and bang for your buck right now on any other vehicles compared to
I’ll know Friday (waiting on insurance to decide if they total my 12 year old Camry) how’s your used forester inventory? I live in Indy and for the right price I’ll head down to Louisville
I bought a Forester Sport on the last day of November and their financing at that time was 4.9% for 3 years. Also got about $2000 off in discounts and no-charge accessories of my choice. I was kind of ticked off though when their marketing department sent me email about the 1.9% financing for 4 years. It would have made things so much easier and also $500 to $1000 cheaper if I would have stayed committed to paying it off in 3 years. I emailed my sales manager and griped. He responded by saying that things change but I got the best deal I could have gotten in November so just be happy about that.
Getting a discount at all on a Forester back in the fall was difficult to do so I'd agree that you got a great deal given the market at that time. I know for me personally we only did that on end of the month deals. For example, if we needed to sell just one more car to hit quota, we would discount the car to get it sold before the end of the month. End of the month/end of the year is always the best time to buy for this reason.
@@alexpmo I was also in a bidding war between two Subaru dealers because I had done the "build your Subaru" exercise on the website and sent the results to two dealers. The dealer way across town didn't offer me his final deal until 4 days after I'd taken delivery from the local place. He was offering me $3000 off MSRP on a car that was in transit to the dealer.
Which Subaru has a manual transmission other than the WRX and BRZ?
Subaru needs to get rid of all that black plastic, especially on the Outback.
I thought the same, till I got one and noticed that the bottom is still nice. If you go off the paved roads it is nice, is now my opinion.
Agree! At least don't make it so bold. At this point it's excessive.
I think it Looks good, and I know others that enjoy it also. what you consider maybe unsightly…..others like it. Can’t make them special based on only a few opinions
Maybe it's priming but I've noticed more vehicles with the black cladding. Personally, I like the black cladding and feel like Subaru does it better than some other manufacturers. The cladding looks a lot more premium and durable.
Give it 2 years until the black cladding starts to get discolored and waves. Those who like them may change their minds. Black plastic trim always develops issues no matter what make.
Great update, I think a “reasonable” inventory level is best for consumers and dealers. The Outback is on my short-list, the return of sub 2% loans and discounts may move me. This current model corrects the deficiencies in my Forester, which is primarily around lane centering and sound insulation, but any rumors on when the next major model change would be?
I'm partial to the Outback since I have one myself. I think it's the most comfortable riding car Subaru offers. The new 2025 Forester is going to be a close contender with the updates they've made. Makes less road noise and handles better than the previous gen. No word yet from Subaru on whether or not they will be making changes for the 2025 Outback. We got a mid-cycle refresh for the 2023 model year so not sure if they will make changes for 2025. Will post about this as soon as I know more!
@@alexpmo thanks! I’ve been your subscriber for quite a while and appreciate the how-to’s as well as the outlooks!
@@davidcarroll8735 happy to help!
@@alexpmo enjoy your informative videos. Any idea when the 25 forresters will be available?
@@paleghost not 100% sure yet but Subaru said Spring 2024 so should be within the next few months
Thanks
How does this impact trade in value?
As the price of new cars comes down so does trade value
Can we get an update on whether or not Subaru will keep the laggy infotainment screen (vs physical buttons) on the '25 Outback and Legacies?
I'd think that Subaru would have a new version of their infotainment screen by '25, and they'd start introducing them into the models you'd mentioned.
Just bought a '24' Forester. It's the best seller for them right now. Paid 32K for a limited one. Nice.
32k from msrp or out the door?
@baraclude it was below msrp. Still had to do tax, title and license. Fortunately I could use my old plates.
With the Port of Baltimore shut down, what Subarus come from Japan via the Port of Baltimore and those cars that come from Lafayette, Indiana?
Hi Alex, thanks for the awesome Subaru content! I have a 2023 Outback limited I actually love it but we do feel we need the bigger engine at some point and we were thinking of trading my limited for a touring xt. The more I am Researching the more I feel like I should try to do it now. Would I qualify for the guaranteed trade in program to get a new Outback if I bought mine new? My app says 32k for my Outback do dealers have to honor this?
Well, if I was a dealer and had a chance to get a "2033 Outback", I would make you a GREAT deal! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 All kidding aside, I would think you'd qualify for the guaranteed trade in. In fact, I would imagine that you're probably receiving occasional offers from your Subaru dealer to buy your current OB. As a FYI.... if I was going to buy another OB (I'm very happy with what I currently have), I wouldn't trade it in before I checked to see what Carmax would give me for my OB. Sold my '10 Chevy Malibu LTZ to Carmax, and received $2900 more than what I would have received on a trade-in at the dealership. Put all that money down on the principal of my new OB's loan. My '22 will be paid off by the end of '24.
@@eskieman3948 I would make myself a great deal too! I did check carmax and caravana and they weren’t as good as the trade in program through Subaru so hoping a dealer would honor. I should have bought the stronger engine to begin with but lesson learned.
Just picked up an Outback Onyx today
Congrats! I have the same 😎
Would be helpful if you introduce yourself in PRINT; ie name, dealership, location, etc.
Simply Amazing!
I recently bought a used 2018 with 121k miles in it. I paid cash but felt like it was way overpriced. Looked at lots of newer models, many with miles around 100k, all over 30k....the prices are ridiculous and people are mainly buying out of desperation rather than wanting to enjoy buying a new car.
Another industry that has ruined itself by being disconnected from reality.
I picked up a 2024 Sport for $29,000.
Love the car...
Hope it stays dependable
Nice! What was the MSRP? I looking at one also 24 Subaru, Forrester, sports trim. I have two dealers are giving 4k off MSRP
@@Costarica-mq8el $31,495
Dang, I bought a used 2021 Sport in September with 19,000 miles for $30,900... Prices dropped drastically right after I bought it:(
The dealerships are NOT working harder to get my business. MSRP is the first offer. There is some factory money, but not near enough to offset the significantly higher interest rates. Also..who in HELL can afford a 45k car at 48 months? With interest, it is well over a thousand dollars a month.
I agree, but a lot of people make more money than we do. 😂 OR, they are fine scraping by making minimum payments on anything and everything to drive a new car.
Love my new Outback!
Hi alex, love the Subaru forester which i want to buy should i be worried about the cvt regards Terry
Hey Terry! You shouldn’t have to worry about the modern cvt in any of the new Subaru models
@@alexpmo thankyou
can we use subaru apps out of USA? and how?
I got about 2,000 off msrp on a premium 2024 crosstrek at the end of may. 4.9 percent apr. Are they discounting them more now you think?
anyway, no glass shattered on my Subaru Forrester, no airbags deployed. And I thought for sure when I got home, because I decided to continue driving since I was in a rural area on the highway, that the driver side passenger door would have a big dent. as I drove back towards Raleigh for another hour, the Subaru Forrester drove fine. The highway in front of me was brightly illuminated. All my turn signals worked, although the left turn signal was a little spastic, but after all, that is the side the reindeer hit me. But it drove perfectly fine. When I got into my driveway, I backed in because across the street was a street lamp and my door cracked open and there was a small dent on the driver side passenger door but what I discovered was something much more dramatic. The last driver, side, headlamp, the grill, and that whole panel was taken out, I chuckled and I said, oh I always wondered what was under the hood. The car was totaled and get this! This 2021 Subaru Forrester base trim, held its value! Yes, it was assessed as totaled but I got $25,000 for it, and on top of it, when I went to buy a new Subaru, Forrester, Johnson Subaru of Cary was able to get me one from the state of Virginia, which is about three hours away from Raleigh, and I got it at the exact same price point as what I paid in 2021! I was utterly amazed. I plan to write Subaru of America because I want them to know how terrific Subarus are. I tell you if you’re a parent or anyone who’s looking for a car you cannot go wrong with a Subarus it has been over three decades driving Subarus and they are simply fantastic. And I am not a person who goes in for bells and whistles and heated seats, etc., if that’s your thing, go for it but the base Subaru Forrester is such a fantastic vehicle. And I tell you if you live in the Raleigh Durham area check out Johnson Subaru of Cary and if not listen to this channel because you learn so much.
Question about your Outback Onyx. Do you have second thoughts on keeping the regular engine or choosing the turbo.
Perfectly happy with the non-turbo. However, the fuel economy difference isn’t as much as I thought it would be. Originally I thought I would save a lot more gas with the non-turbo but that hasn’t been the case lol
@@alexpmo do you miss the extra power
@@TraceNoOne not at all. But I also don’t need the power. We don’t tow anything.
I agree on the fuel economy, Alex. I’ve had my Outback Touring since October. I’m nowhere near the 32 Highway and I’ve been very gentle on it. I didn’t want a turbo for longevity purposes anyway, but I was hoping the mpg would be close to what it stated.
I'm buying a vehicle right now, my choices are Mazda CX-30 and Subaru Legacy. Question, is it better to purchase at the end of the month??
In 2023 i wanted to buy a Forester. There was none and i was told i could put a down payment down but when the car came in i would have to pay the higher price. No discounts or deals as a consumer of a Forester. I bought from another car company - so subaru lost a customer ...
CVTs are killing Nissan, as we speak. I’ve had two, with no probs, but wouldn’t get another. They wear out, and are $6k minimum to fix. Go lighter. Saving weight increases driving fun and mpg, not gimmicks like cvt, EV…
It's a real shame that Subaru ditched the 6MT in the Crosstreks.👎 Glad we have one in our '22 Premium.
I was on the list for the Solterra. They lied to me, and told me that it would be eligible for the massive government rebate. It is not. The equivalent Tesla or Ford Mustang is MANY thousand dollars cheaper that your Solterra.
In August 2023, could not get an outback. I week ago, walked and bought an outback wilderness in white, the exact car and color I wanted, get a 7% discount too
that why we as consumers DONT WANT TO BUY from the dealership. we want to buy straight from the CAR FACTORY. then we will get the right price without paying those awfully inflated interest rattings and extra 6000 to 7 000 $ dollars than arent necesary at all.
I just got a Subaru forester sport with the installed pack for under base model price. They are really trying to get rid of them. Good time to buy.
I just got an email from my Subaru dealer in Tampa,FL for 0 and 0.9% on Outbacks. Too bad that I had to pay premium money for my Crosstrek a year ago.
Slightly unrelated, I'm shopping for something more practical but still fun to replace my 2-door jeep wrangler. In test driving a Forrester wilderness, it feels quite different from the jeep going over lumps and bumps. Reviewers call it "floating" and think it's a good thing. To me compared to the jeep, it just feels loosey-goosey and ungrounded. Is there reason to think I could adapt to that??? Would crosstrek wilderness feel the same? Thoughts?
Both the Forester Wilderness and Crosstrek Wilderness handle well in my opinion. The roof isn't as tall on the Crosstrek when compared to the Forester so it has less weight up top. I'd test drive the Crosstrek Wilderness to see how you like it.
Subaru used to offer 1.9 for up to 60 months on almost all models.
You can always refinance when the rates lower… What we want is a better incentive dollar amount
No mention of the Subaru BRZ, I have a 2023 model and it is glorious to drive.
Subaru has raised their prices the least an average of 19%. for 2023 the average price to get into a Subaru was about $36K. KIA has seen a 60% increase. Also, people have to be a fool to buy cars at insanely elevated prices. I drive a 2010 Outback 3.6R with 190K and a 2014 Legacy 2.5i with 105K. Cheaper to maintain your car than it is to replace it.
I llost out on a fully loaded 2022 Outback Touring XT with 16k miles. I drove it the other day and went back with the family to check it out today. Got there 5 mins late and someone to it out for a
ride and bought it. They have plenty of new at the Rhode Island port. But with tax, and fees, it starts getting close to $50k. I'm so mad at myself.
Oh no! Sorry to hear that 😢
@@alexpmo I'm hoping the anger dissipates by morning. LoL
On the flip side, while I was there, I sat in a 2024 Crosstrek wilderness. What a nice vehicle.
Just ordered my Crosstrek ( limited ) in offshore blue. Wont get it until April. What i DID notice was TONS of Solterras on the Dealer's lot. I think the market is saturated with those expensive EVs and i think Subaru is gonna get stuck with a bunch of them.
Been thinking about getting a Subaru but so many TH-camrs including Subaru mechanics talk about the issues the engines and sometimes transmissions have. I’m confused as to why there’s so much negativity and still I see Subarus all over the place. Question: Are Subaru’s (Outback or forester) dependable!?
We have a 2013 Outback limited with 140 K miles on it. Had a few issues, including trans solenoid problem, wheel bearing problems ( twice ) and a computer problem. Total about 4 k in repairs over the life of the vehicle. We spent about 10 K dollars in gas per 100000 miles. But it is solid and the all wheel drive keeps us out of trouble many times. We do regular maintenance from the dealer except oil changes I do myself. We are in the market for a new vehicle and may get another Subaru, we feel that EV's and charging systems have some evolving to do yet before we get one of those. Drive safe out there Steve.
@@GabrielSBarbaraS thanks for the info!
I can attest to the wheel bearing issues…We had it fixed under warranty and then had to have it repaired again after warranty….The AC lines exploded under 100k mikes…. My daughter is currently droit in college, but we’ve had to do a number of repairs… Most people like them because of the all wheel drive and they’re one of the safest cars on the road…..
I have a 2023 Subaru forester sport. It’s almost time for my 1st oil change. Should I get conventional or synthetic oil?
Ms. Penny, read through your Forester's manuals...stick with what Subaru recommends which is 0W-20 synthetic oil.
Thank you!!!
All prices need to fall.. the high prices are crushing demand....
I pick up my 2024 Touring XT on Wednesday. My 5th subie. Replacing 2007 with 280000 miles. Subies rock.
Why do I hear so much about engine troubles?
@@PatriotSteve Most of them have a unique motor which requires the engine to be hoisted into the air to replace the head gaskets and that can be expensive. No issues if its done every 100k like every other engine... The issue is people decide to skip the head gasket replacement due to the even higher than normal cost and then the motor fails prematurely
What about factory cash back?
With Japanese Manufacturers Purposely restricting supply, I will wait and even have to buy a chevy lol. I could possibly be buying 2 new cars within the net 2-3 years but will wait and use mine or buy used until they rust away!
The black cladding on the front of the outback is part of the reason why they are not selling!
Certainly. That's why I'm not buying one. I'm shopping for a 2021 or 22 model.
I like the cladding.
They’ll sell regardless of that. Only the superficial look at headlights…waghhhhh, or the grill….waghhhh, or from this comment black cladding….waghhhhh
@@martinr8278 yep!
I've wanted to buy a new subaru for the last 2 years (to replace my 18 outback) but the current design is ugly so I will continue to wait. The 2024 Forester looks really ugly as well, Come on Subaru, you can do better!
Is there any difference between 2023 forester touring and the same trim 2024 other than removing the CD player? The price is $1 k lower, is it worth to get a 2023 model?
If you will keep and pay off the car, get 2023. If you plan to trade in before you pay off, go with the 2024. Bc with the 2024 you will get a higher trade value for it. No real differences between the 2.
@@shadowdestined2992Thanks, already got the 2023 one. Satisfied by far.
This is suppose to be sub class suv, but they charge this as high as the Forester. In canada these are priced from 35 to 45 g, and wilderness will be 55. Why not buy a forester, crv or Rav4 at this price.
Where are the lower trim levels,there would be more demand with lower trims,don't destroy your brand like jeep Dodge .
Working harder ,not on the Foresters.
I'm not in the market. Bought a Legacy in 2015, it's only got 35K miles on it, I don't drive much since it's all WFH these days for me. If they still made the 6 cylinder engine I'm maybe buy one sooner than will be the case now. But it would still be years out.
These vehicle companies got greedy doubled and tripled the prices on their new vehicles and now people are not buying those vehicles with their ridicules prices.
Must be dealers... i picked up a 2023 limited 2.5 with nav. Was a dealer ssrvace fleet car. 8k on it.. for 21k. They gave me 10k for a 2014 2.5 limited with 60k on it. They also put a life time powertrain warenty in the 23 like my 14 had. They put 3 cvts 2 axels and 3 wheel bearings in that car under warranty. I did have to replace the exhaust in the 14 at 49k it rusted at the flang welds. Life in a snow state and dirt road living.
Sounds like a lemon
@PatriotSteve maybe. But at least it cost nothing in repairs or rental. Then again my nebiores 2020 is in the shop for the cvt inspection and reprogram at 18k. Now they have 25k on it and it's back in for noise over 40mph.
Forest stock is piling up due to a 2025 model coming in Spring, which will look better. I think Subaru may need to take $4K off the Forester unless the 2025 is significantly more costly. Why buy a year old car for the same price? If the economy crashes, and it most certainly may, then 8% or them paying the tax, is certainly expected.
Great guy
What dealership is this
Where?
What credit score do you need to have to get the 1.% percent loan
Probably 700+.
Four Imprezas on the ground, I'm impressed. My local Subaru dealer just can't seem to get enough to have lot cars as they sell before they get to the dealer. Thanks for the updates Alex. My special girl is still wanting a Subaru, so she'll get a Subaru. 😀
Here is a great way to save money on vehicles , wait 10 years to buy your new Subaru. ( We as consumers can game the supply and demand game just like the manufactures do ) ( Remember that every bright and shiny object out there is not gold )
My only gripe with Subaru is manual transmissions. They are available for BRZ and WRX, why not offer it as an option on other models? I would buy a Crosstrek or Impreza if I could get a manual transmission. Sadly, I can't. And I don't like CVTs. Soooo, no Subarus for me. Sucks I like them. Cheers
Same here. I like the manuals too.
We'll loan you the money at no cost if you buy the EV. Tells us a lot about demand.
My local Subaru has 105 Outbacks, 98 Foresters, 88 Crosstreks, 10 WXRs, 3 BRZs, 2 Solterras, 40 Ascents, 10 Imprezas and 4 Legacys. They are loaded!
Where u at
Hi there, where is this dealership? You are showing a large inventory. Do you work there and are you a salesmen? If so can you provide us with your contact information? I’m looking at buying one in October….
discount them like you once did and they will sell. I'm talking 15-20% off your inflated MSRP.