@TuboReese That's true, but I would argue that for most games, tier lists devolve into either a predictable meta, or the list is of no use. Looking up videos from Remnant 2 content creators, they vary quite a bit in opinions of what items are top tier and even what builds are top tier. I have different opinions than this video in regards to classes. Thats an indicator that the game is well balanced, and players feel like their choices matter and have an impact on gameplay.
what is your opinion? just started playing today and reached thr ward. now im not aure what to pic. im leaning towards Handler. its a decision between Handler and Challenger. until you reply Ive obviously already chosen something. curious about what you disagree with tho, regarding this video
@DELTA9XTC HAndler is the best starting class. The auto revive with the dog is OP for new players. Once you are in end game and have most of the classes unlocked, the game is more of an RPG build arpg. As you are going through the campaign, play a build that is based around survival and health regen. Don't go for glass cannon builds until you have many dozens of hours of experience. The game could be overly difficult if you try to use a TH-cam guide for best damage build. You can make very tanky builds if you are ever hitting a wall.
Awsome video. i like the idea of the handler and medic . i am an older guy and loves playing games . i am just not very good at them lol . so this sounds like a good start. thank you for the video.
I am curious when you started realizing you were diminishing in gaming skills? I am 47, and around the age of 36, I noticed my multiplayer FPS skills to drop off a cliff. I stopped playing them at that point as I could barely pull a 1/1 KD ratio when, prior to that point, I would be 2-3/1 KD in multiplayer competitive fps ( I still enjoy singleplayer fps). Then, around 43, I started noticing my skills in any kind of twitch action games to go in the toilet if I had a stressful day or not enough sleep. Greatfully, I have always enjoyed turn based and strategy games. Consequently, those types of games have become my preferred genre. I still can play Souls Like games at a high level, but only when I am well rested and have no real-life distractions. Which is on a rare occasion at an increasing frequency. I have been a mainly PC gamer most of my life but I know I am useless now in regards to console online games and a controller.
I'm a younger player who came over from the Dark Souls and Bloodborne series (and remnant 1 before release), and Handler/Medic was a very relaxing playstyle compared to how fast paced the other games were. I love fast pace, but the build feels nice when going for world exploration.
Youre 100% German. That’s the most typical German/English accent I’ve ever heard! 😂 Thanks for the very informative video and taking the time for the community!
For me its the Engineer and the Medic XD Got lucky with finding it early on Nerud. The impact cannons AoE is STUPID and lets you kill most Bosses easily (provided you know how and when to roll) As weapons i am Biased towards Bows (in any game, if there is a Bow, it needs to be MINE :D). My Build might not be good by Meta standards, but it DAMN well puts in the work and brought me to the end on the 2nd highest difficulty ^^ But for now i am playing around with the other classes and leveling up. Great video and i am gonna save it to my playlist for Remnant ^^
I find Ritualist+Invoker is amazing solo since statuses on mobs spread to other mobs when they die, and has a large area. I can clear larges rooms on Nightmare in a few seconds, and is nice when fighting bosses where I have to be mobile. I can dot them and evade while the status effects hurt them.
I think gunslinger have more survivability than hunter mainly for its shooting speed and short cooldown skills. It have also more crowd control and is less glass cannon.
I did my first playthrough with hunter leveling hunter and gunslinger to 10 before going into other classes- While I get the appeal of Handler and Challenger especially for hardcore games, I think when you're starting out and playing on your own the additional ammo drops hunter and gunslinger provide are a godsent. No ammo management, no big investment into consumables and concoctions (which isn't an issue lategame, I know)... You just never really have to think about running out of ammo as long as you have hunter and/or gunslinger (until bosses in higher difficulties anyways) and killing things faster is an overall boon (less dodges I need to land in boss fights) Overall, I guess it's a matter of taste and build, but like, I do think handler is definitely gifted with the easy to get abrasive whetstone + dog combo... To me the challenger and engineer mechanics feel a bit too situational tho tbh, so I would personally rate both of them one tier down. While both have amazing traits, their perks are overly reliant on certain conditions. with engineer, if you don't have the turret/heavy weapon out you basically don't have an archetype. Similarly, with challenger you better be close for your stuff to work. I'd also rate Invader higher, especially than alchemist based of wormhole alone the ability to get out of a tight spot with that skill alone is insane. not necessarily a primary archetype, but highly valuable as a secondary.
Thank you for the detailed input! The Challengers damage falloff is less of an issue than most think, especially after they bumped the range in one of the early patches and you have damage negating and damage buffing skills, so it is a very versatile class with a 100% auto-revive...but yeah, it shines best with a dedicated shotgun build. But how everyone ranks the classes is always highly depended on how you "click" with a class and how it suits your preferred approach/playstyle.
Great vid I brought the game before Christmas left it in my library took it out two weeks ago and it’s brill! Just found the engineer gear loving it! I got 5 Bloodmoon shards can’t wait for summoner yippee!
Invader (with Wormhole) + Challenger (with Juggernaut) with max cooldown and Assassin's Dagger (with the backstab bonus) with Vampire Blade or Edgelord is the most fun build in the game, until you run into a boss you can't reach.
The build variety is really something...especially with the new DLC items. I´m working on a Alchemist/Medic combo with max cd-reduction...you can play absolutely reckless and super fun.
Explorer should be B tier the drop rates helps alot for farming stuff to become stronger (scrap, crystals, etc) the movement speed can be paired with aim speed and can strafe very fast there are countless enemies that this can benefit from and the movement speed can help zoom out of bad corners or used to dodge long range attacks simply by moving fast. Since this is a solo tier list explorer is great!
I run medic as my starter and engineer as my secondary, with the flame turret skill, allowing me to tank big enemies and keep myself alive im slowly working on other classes, but i managed to kill annihilation on my second attempt
love your comment on the glass canon players that need their steam released haha. also i love your vid, are you going to do builds for each class a well bcuz that would be crazy
7:00 You're wrong, song of Eifir mod from Yaesha also does that. Edit: Which you know. Although I misunderstood your statement. But you're still wrong. The bloodbond perk and Game Master's Pride can also reduce beyond the 80% cap. Can recommend Vash Cowaii's youtube channel if you want to learn more about reducing damage.
@@Ranked_Journey You are right about the additional damage reduction options which I did not mention, like bloodbound. It is poorly worded, bloodbound is a third DR mechanic (pure DR, reducing damage before DR and diverting damage to other targets) - I should have taken the time to explain that.
@@Ranked_Journey 😁 - I simply forgot about the damage diverting mechanic when writing the script. But that´s what comments are for, I highly appreciate your input!
I feel like the Handler isn't really S tier for solo play. So much of the handler's utility is team oriented, and it's prime perk consumes a resource that, if you're dying you're probably running low on. The howls also aren't that impactful when you're solo, at least not compared to most other archetypes. The dog itself also isn't that useful. It can't take aggro in boss fights which is when you could have used it the most, and it also can't attack a range of bosses, with it's attack not doing much damage. The only place I see it being useful is to buff the damage of the Engineers turret, as a secondary archetype. This is admittedly based on rather limited experience playing the archetype while leveling it (for the trait, and for better relic fragments), plus watching a lot of build videos.
I recently spent more time with the Handler and the dog does divert a lot of attention from you in the open world/dungeons, which helps a lot. The Buffs are pretty similar to the Alchemist ones and very flexible, which I like. The biggest downsides are Kinship as Trait and Rugged as a must have = -20 Trait points. Relic charges are never really a problem and the revive is on a very short cd. But yeah, I get what you say...for me it is still S-Tier because of the self revive compared to the other A-Tier classes.
@@Ranked_Journeycherry picking your arguments bc u know ur wrong😂the video’s creator replied to you with a para explanation why it’s still s tier but you ignore that and reply to the guy who didn’t use any evidence. Slightly embarrassing
Hi! I am into Remnant 2 since a few days and you are my main source for builds. Great video as usual. It would be a nice addition some more content about the archetypes combos. Do you think Hunter/Invader is viable for a solo build despite having put Hunter in C Tier and in case with which main? I am also interested in crowd control builds. And, in general, what have you found as most fun combo in solo? I know it is subjective. For me usually, variation of mechanics is one of the key of fun. Thank you for your efforts!
Welcome to Remnant 2 and thank you for the feedback! On Survival and Veteran really everything works great. And there are just so many combos possible..as you said it is highly subjective. If you like cc try the DOT/SlOW/BOOM build I made...slow is very effective!
@@wholesomegamer i tried hunter in nightmare for the early game, but was too much frustration, so i downgrade to veteran just for unlock the secondary archetype, aiming to go for nightmare with a proper setup. Any suggestions for the Hunter/invader? Thanks again
@@mr_kimball Hunter Invader is a combo for experienced players with good aim who prefer mobility and evasion over failsafes like healing, high DR or aggro diversion. A cd-reduction build works well with Wormhole or Void Cloak in combination with Hunters Shroud. But you need good reflexes and good aim to make the best of it.
Handler and medic is the class I've been using the entire game. I just made it to the root biome. The mod to shoot a health pellet just doesn't work well enough for me.
We need a tier list for best classes to use or combine together for a Hardcore playthrough. So far though in my own hardcore playthrough Handler/Summoner is amazing. My dog and minions running around gives me time to heal up or run away from encounters that would end my run. I initially started the run just for the Ahanae Crystal ring but I heard the Savior gun that’s the reward for completing Hardcore will get a corrupted version. And if so it’ll probably be like the rapid fire version from the first Remnant.
Handler to start out with nothing is probably the best choice for a hardcore run. It will make the first few levels a lot easier until you can grab some nice gear. While the dog can be a little useless in some boss fights, it is a huge boost in the early game.
Handler buffs skill + ranged damage, so Engineer, Gunslinger and Hunter would take full advantage of those buffs. It depends if you want to pair it with more survivability - then Medic is great. Or you go for more damage, then the before mentioned archetypes are great combinations.
Generally speaking, all of these list are motivated by personal preference. I am an objective player as a whole with no real regard for what archetypes I will particularly use at any given time. However, I do know that some archetypes are actually leagues above the rest in terms of general use. Outside of that I can’t really say without putting Bias into the equation. Your skill level also matters in these types of videos, so if you a regular player. I wouldn’t recommend just picking what a person thinks is the absolute best. Mainly because their main archetype might not be the best play-style for you.
Thank you for your detailed input. And I agree, Tier-listings are always based on a certain persons perspective. And I always try to point out that you have to take your preferred playstyle into account. It is always important that you "click" with a class and enjoy playing it. With a video like this I try to give newer players some kind of orientation, what they can expect from a certain archetype if they prefer to play without co-op in mind.
Medic is super flexible and fits as secondary nearly every other class, due to the all-damage-bonus. Want it super tanky? Go with Challenger. More into max ranged dmg? Take Gunslinger or Hunter. You like status effect? Go Ritualist (DLC class). And so on, let the primary archetype select the preferred playstyle and then slap Medic on as secondary class for high survivability.
I wish the animal for Handler class was a cat. Would have been much funnier if it was just a regular domestic cat. Spawn it in during a big fight, getting no assistance and just sits there staring at you till it licks it's own anus.
I really enjoy having a dog on this game. However, I feel like it should retrieve dropped items for you and also warn you of nearby enemies. There's so much utility that could be had if they just thought about it. A little disappointed actually.
handler to be honest is very bad in the dlc area,so many flying enemies and dog cant do anything,handler is good solo if ur playing normal difficulty only.
@wholesomegamer hell yeah man, I do agree in a way tho handler for people just starting is very very good. Ofc the self revive with challenger and healing with medic for solo new guys would be nice too. Handler starts with what I think is the best starting weapon in the game as well. I just love seeing the health on bosses drop before my bar does so dps all day.
That works in most scenarios. And for flying bosses you can use the dog as healing beacon or damage buff. A cd-reduction build is nice if you lean heavy into the dog. You can achieve 100% buff-uptime from the skills!
Only in terms of this specific list. It is an S-Tier Damage archetype for sure. Other classes have more flexibility, survivability, self revives and so on. It is a very context related Tier List that tries to focus on overall usefulness for solo-players.
I think you must play the exactly opposite way I play this game. Reason being the hunter has great survivability. To go invisible and get away from the enemy is a very valuable ability. When i started playing this game. Probably the most important skill a player needs is to know how to roll at the correct time. Then with the correct damage build you should have not an issue with enemies. The game has a DPS shooting range for a reason. Your damage along with your skill building. Is a key part of survivable. I can pretty much 1 shot everything with my 1880 rifle and submachine gun is a AD clearing AEO powerhouse. I think I probably broke this game with my build. Nice opinion. You should probably build into your guns, rings, mods, amulets, and relic. That way when you change your archetype. You still will have survivability.
@@NeverUseAnApostrophe thanks teacher. I didn't even realize this was in the message. I actually do know about this. I will make the correction. glad to see grammar and literature matter to some people. my brother was always correcting me. also would say the word your looking for is. so I understand your frustration. update to the quoted text. I actually discovered probably half of the game breaking builds in this game lol. most notably is the havoc blink. I was using that within hours of the dlc update.
Archon is a powerful but niche class, this list ranks survivability, flexibility and other solo player relevant criteria higher then raw damage output for example. And "meta" Apoc builds are really varied, I have seen a lot more then just Archon builds - like undying tank builds Medic/Summoner or classic Hunter/Gunslinger glass cannon and the new Ritualist builds.
The fact there is debate about videos like this is a testament to a very well designed Arpg.
People make these types of videos for literally EVERY game that exists.
@TuboReese That's true, but I would argue that for most games, tier lists devolve into either a predictable meta, or the list is of no use. Looking up videos from Remnant 2 content creators, they vary quite a bit in opinions of what items are top tier and even what builds are top tier. I have different opinions than this video in regards to classes. Thats an indicator that the game is well balanced, and players feel like their choices matter and have an impact on gameplay.
what is your opinion?
just started playing today and reached thr ward. now im not aure what to pic. im leaning towards Handler. its a decision between Handler and Challenger. until you reply Ive obviously already chosen something. curious about what you disagree with tho, regarding this video
@HArryvajonas
@DELTA9XTC HAndler is the best starting class. The auto revive with the dog is OP for new players. Once you are in end game and have most of the classes unlocked, the game is more of an RPG build arpg. As you are going through the campaign, play a build that is based around survival and health regen. Don't go for glass cannon builds until you have many dozens of hours of experience. The game could be overly difficult if you try to use a TH-cam guide for best damage build. You can make very tanky builds if you are ever hitting a wall.
Awsome video. i like the idea of the handler and medic . i am an older guy and loves playing games . i am just not very good at them lol . so this sounds like a good start. thank you for the video.
Thank you! Handler and Medic is for sure a very reliable combination...and I am turning 50 this year, so I am an "older" gamer myself :-)
I am curious when you started realizing you were diminishing in gaming skills? I am 47, and around the age of 36, I noticed my multiplayer FPS skills to drop off a cliff. I stopped playing them at that point as I could barely pull a 1/1 KD ratio when, prior to that point, I would be 2-3/1 KD in multiplayer competitive fps ( I still enjoy singleplayer fps). Then, around 43, I started noticing my skills in any kind of twitch action games to go in the toilet if I had a stressful day or not enough sleep. Greatfully, I have always enjoyed turn based and strategy games. Consequently, those types of games have become my preferred genre. I still can play Souls Like games at a high level, but only when I am well rested and have no real-life distractions. Which is on a rare occasion at an increasing frequency.
I have been a mainly PC gamer most of my life but I know I am useless now in regards to console online games and a controller.
I'm a younger player who came over from the Dark Souls and Bloodborne series (and remnant 1 before release), and Handler/Medic was a very relaxing playstyle compared to how fast paced the other games were.
I love fast pace, but the build feels nice when going for world exploration.
Nerds be like
@@HArryvajonas if you need someone to play with hit me up
Youre 100% German. That’s the most typical German/English accent I’ve ever heard! 😂
Thanks for the very informative video and taking the time for the community!
There is no hiding in that...unless I can afford an accent coach at some point :-). Thank you for the feedback!
For me its the Engineer and the Medic XD
Got lucky with finding it early on Nerud. The impact cannons AoE is STUPID and lets you kill most Bosses easily (provided you know how and when to roll) As weapons i am Biased towards Bows (in any game, if there is a Bow, it needs to be MINE :D). My Build might not be good by Meta standards, but it DAMN well puts in the work and brought me to the end on the 2nd highest difficulty ^^ But for now i am playing around with the other classes and leveling up.
Great video and i am gonna save it to my playlist for Remnant ^^
I find Ritualist+Invoker is amazing solo since statuses on mobs spread to other mobs when they die, and has a large area. I can clear larges rooms on Nightmare in a few seconds, and is nice when fighting bosses where I have to be mobile. I can dot them and evade while the status effects hurt them.
I think gunslinger have more survivability than hunter mainly for its shooting speed and short cooldown skills. It have also more crowd control and is less glass cannon.
I did my first playthrough with hunter leveling hunter and gunslinger to 10 before going into other classes-
While I get the appeal of Handler and Challenger especially for hardcore games, I think when you're starting out and playing on your own the additional ammo drops hunter and gunslinger provide are a godsent. No ammo management, no big investment into consumables and concoctions (which isn't an issue lategame, I know)...
You just never really have to think about running out of ammo as long as you have hunter and/or gunslinger (until bosses in higher difficulties anyways) and killing things faster is an overall boon (less dodges I need to land in boss fights)
Overall, I guess it's a matter of taste and build, but like, I do think handler is definitely gifted with the easy to get abrasive whetstone + dog combo...
To me the challenger and engineer mechanics feel a bit too situational tho tbh, so I would personally rate both of them one tier down.
While both have amazing traits, their perks are overly reliant on certain conditions. with engineer, if you don't have the turret/heavy weapon out you basically don't have an archetype.
Similarly, with challenger you better be close for your stuff to work. I'd also rate Invader higher, especially than alchemist based of wormhole alone
the ability to get out of a tight spot with that skill alone is insane. not necessarily a primary archetype, but highly valuable as a secondary.
Thank you for the detailed input! The Challengers damage falloff is less of an issue than most think, especially after they bumped the range in one of the early patches and you have damage negating and damage buffing skills, so it is a very versatile class with a 100% auto-revive...but yeah, it shines best with a dedicated shotgun build. But how everyone ranks the classes is always highly depended on how you "click" with a class and how it suits your preferred approach/playstyle.
Great vid I brought the game before Christmas left it in my library took it out two weeks ago and it’s brill! Just found the engineer gear loving it! I got 5 Bloodmoon shards can’t wait for summoner yippee!
Invader (with Wormhole) + Challenger (with Juggernaut) with max cooldown and Assassin's Dagger (with the backstab bonus) with Vampire Blade or Edgelord is the most fun build in the game, until you run into a boss you can't reach.
The build variety is really something...especially with the new DLC items. I´m working on a Alchemist/Medic combo with max cd-reduction...you can play absolutely reckless and super fun.
Explorer should be B tier the drop rates helps alot for farming stuff to become stronger (scrap, crystals, etc) the movement speed can be paired with aim speed and can strafe very fast there are countless enemies that this can benefit from and the movement speed can help zoom out of bad corners or used to dodge long range attacks simply by moving fast. Since this is a solo tier list explorer is great!
I run medic as my starter and engineer as my secondary, with the flame turret skill, allowing me to tank big enemies and keep myself alive im slowly working on other classes, but i managed to kill annihilation on my second attempt
Nice, congratulations on the kill...the fight can be pretty confusing the first time.
love your comment on the glass canon players that need their steam released haha. also i love your vid, are you going to do builds for each class a well bcuz that would be crazy
7:00 You're wrong, song of Eifir mod from Yaesha also does that.
Edit: Which you know. Although I misunderstood your statement. But you're still wrong. The bloodbond perk and Game Master's Pride can also reduce beyond the 80% cap. Can recommend Vash Cowaii's youtube channel if you want to learn more about reducing damage.
At 7:15 I say exactly that ;-)
@@wholesomegamer I misunderstood your statement and have added an edit.
@@Ranked_Journey You are right about the additional damage reduction options which I did not mention, like bloodbound. It is poorly worded, bloodbound is a third DR mechanic (pure DR, reducing damage before DR and diverting damage to other targets) - I should have taken the time to explain that.
@@wholesomegamer How dare you word something badly in a youtube video. ;)
@@Ranked_Journey 😁 - I simply forgot about the damage diverting mechanic when writing the script. But that´s what comments are for, I highly appreciate your input!
I feel like the Handler isn't really S tier for solo play. So much of the handler's utility is team oriented, and it's prime perk consumes a resource that, if you're dying you're probably running low on. The howls also aren't that impactful when you're solo, at least not compared to most other archetypes. The dog itself also isn't that useful. It can't take aggro in boss fights which is when you could have used it the most, and it also can't attack a range of bosses, with it's attack not doing much damage. The only place I see it being useful is to buff the damage of the Engineers turret, as a secondary archetype. This is admittedly based on rather limited experience playing the archetype while leveling it (for the trait, and for better relic fragments), plus watching a lot of build videos.
I recently spent more time with the Handler and the dog does divert a lot of attention from you in the open world/dungeons, which helps a lot. The Buffs are pretty similar to the Alchemist ones and very flexible, which I like. The biggest downsides are Kinship as Trait and Rugged as a must have = -20 Trait points. Relic charges are never really a problem and the revive is on a very short cd. But yeah, I get what you say...for me it is still S-Tier because of the self revive compared to the other A-Tier classes.
You’re crazy
The handler is the easiest time for new and solo players by far
@@JohnDoe-pu5gk do you have any arguments to backup your assertion?
@@Ranked_Journeycherry picking your arguments bc u know ur wrong😂the video’s creator replied to you with a para explanation why it’s still s tier but you ignore that and reply to the guy who didn’t use any evidence. Slightly embarrassing
5:23 - Was not Gunslinger available for all when game released?
It was only available from the start for the deluxe edition. Others had to finish the campaign first to get it.
@@wholesomegamer interesting. I am having the deluxe then 😀. Thanks
Hi! I am into Remnant 2 since a few days and you are my main source for builds. Great video as usual. It would be a nice addition some more content about the archetypes combos. Do you think Hunter/Invader is viable for a solo build despite having put Hunter in C Tier and in case with which main? I am also interested in crowd control builds. And, in general, what have you found as most fun combo in solo? I know it is subjective. For me usually, variation of mechanics is one of the key of fun. Thank you for your efforts!
Welcome to Remnant 2 and thank you for the feedback! On Survival and Veteran really everything works great. And there are just so many combos possible..as you said it is highly subjective. If you like cc try the DOT/SlOW/BOOM build I made...slow is very effective!
@@wholesomegamer i tried hunter in nightmare for the early game, but was too much frustration, so i downgrade to veteran just for unlock the secondary archetype, aiming to go for nightmare with a proper setup. Any suggestions for the Hunter/invader? Thanks again
@@mr_kimball Hunter Invader is a combo for experienced players with good aim who prefer mobility and evasion over failsafes like healing, high DR or aggro diversion. A cd-reduction build works well with Wormhole or Void Cloak in combination with Hunters Shroud. But you need good reflexes and good aim to make the best of it.
Handler and medic is the class I've been using the entire game. I just made it to the root biome. The mod to shoot a health pellet just doesn't work well enough for me.
Great video.
Thank you!
We need a tier list for best classes to use or combine together for a Hardcore playthrough. So far though in my own hardcore playthrough Handler/Summoner is amazing. My dog and minions running around gives me time to heal up or run away from encounters that would end my run. I initially started the run just for the Ahanae Crystal ring but I heard the Savior gun that’s the reward for completing Hardcore will get a corrupted version. And if so it’ll probably be like the rapid fire version from the first Remnant.
Handler to start out with nothing is probably the best choice for a hardcore run. It will make the first few levels a lot easier until you can grab some nice gear. While the dog can be a little useless in some boss fights, it is a huge boost in the early game.
I need help. Im playing solo and coop and my throphys on playstation are Not poppin. Does anyone Else have this kind of a Problem and a solution??????
Sorry to hear that, i´m on PC but maybe someone else has some insights. The Reddit forum is also very helpful and active.
Get rid of the geystation and buy a series x.
@@krazykuz13cmc thanks 4 nothing mate
What’s the best class to pair with handler?
Handler buffs skill + ranged damage, so Engineer, Gunslinger and Hunter would take full advantage of those buffs. It depends if you want to pair it with more survivability - then Medic is great. Or you go for more damage, then the before mentioned archetypes are great combinations.
Generally speaking, all of these list are motivated by personal preference.
I am an objective player as a whole with no real regard for what archetypes I will particularly use at any given time.
However, I do know that some archetypes are actually leagues above the rest in terms of general use. Outside of that I can’t really say without putting Bias into the equation.
Your skill level also matters in these types of videos, so if you a regular player. I wouldn’t recommend just picking what a person thinks is the absolute best. Mainly because their main archetype might not be the best play-style for you.
Thank you for your detailed input. And I agree, Tier-listings are always based on a certain persons perspective. And I always try to point out that you have to take your preferred playstyle into account. It is always important that you "click" with a class and enjoy playing it. With a video like this I try to give newer players some kind of orientation, what they can expect from a certain archetype if they prefer to play without co-op in mind.
What is the best archetypes to piar with medic?
Medic is super flexible and fits as secondary nearly every other class, due to the all-damage-bonus. Want it super tanky? Go with Challenger. More into max ranged dmg? Take Gunslinger or Hunter. You like status effect? Go Ritualist (DLC class). And so on, let the primary archetype select the preferred playstyle and then slap Medic on as secondary class for high survivability.
I wish the animal for Handler class was a cat. Would have been much funnier if it was just a regular domestic cat. Spawn it in during a big fight, getting no assistance and just sits there staring at you till it licks it's own anus.
lol, maybe the DLCs will bring some variants.
I really enjoy having a dog on this game. However, I feel like it should retrieve dropped items for you and also warn you of nearby enemies. There's so much utility that could be had if they just thought about it. A little disappointed actually.
Well, he can bring you back to life after you messed up....and you can pet him! So there is that :-D
@@wholesomegamer lol yes of course. I'm a dog dad. I have a full blooded German Shepherd so maybe I'm a little biased. Ha.
Hold on, you can change your primary archetype? Obviously i havent been paying attention
You can change everything anytime (out of combat), reset your Traits for free (once you bought the item from Wallace). Total flexibility man :-)
@@wholesomegamerglad I came to this video! Never knew I could redo my traits!!!!
handler to be honest is very bad in the dlc area,so many flying enemies and dog cant do anything,handler is good solo if ur playing normal difficulty only.
Shit all i use is hunter and gunslinger combo. Just dodge, and the damage buff from those archetypes takes care of itself.
The classic glas-cannon enjoyer! Nothing wrong with that :-D
@wholesomegamer hell yeah man, I do agree in a way tho handler for people just starting is very very good. Ofc the self revive with challenger and healing with medic for solo new guys would be nice too. Handler starts with what I think is the best starting weapon in the game as well. I just love seeing the health on bosses drop before my bar does so dps all day.
also, i didnt know they have anarchy gun from destiny in this game.
The guns are really creative and fun in this game.
One shot ritualist is tbe bestv
There are some crazy good Ritualist builds out there!
He was broken doing less damage nows there doing insane damage with the one shot you get everything to be a op cc but bossing as well its insane
Forever stuck playing this game solo
Same
I just use the dog as a tank and run medic to keep it alive
That works in most scenarios. And for flying bosses you can use the dog as healing beacon or damage buff. A cd-reduction build is nice if you lean heavy into the dog. You can achieve 100% buff-uptime from the skills!
Wait wait wait Hunter the class with wall hacks. The best ranged damage boost. Is a C tier!
Only in terms of this specific list. It is an S-Tier Damage archetype for sure. Other classes have more flexibility, survivability, self revives and so on. It is a very context related Tier List that tries to focus on overall usefulness for solo-players.
It's a very decent secondary archetype for solo play in my opinion. Hunter's Mark is very reliable, and the increased ammo drops don't go amiss.
I think you must play the exactly opposite way I play this game. Reason being the hunter has great survivability. To go invisible and get away from the enemy is a very valuable ability. When i started playing this game. Probably the most important skill a player needs is to know how to roll at the correct time. Then with the correct damage build you should have not an issue with enemies. The game has a DPS shooting range for a reason. Your damage along with your skill building. Is a key part of survivable. I can pretty much 1 shot everything with my 1880 rifle and submachine gun is a AD clearing AEO powerhouse. I think I probably broke this game with my build. Nice opinion. You should probably build into your guns, rings, mods, amulets, and relic. That way when you change your archetype. You still will have survivability.
Never use an apostrophe to pluralize, the word you seek is "enemies."
@@NeverUseAnApostrophe thanks teacher. I didn't even realize this was in the message. I actually do know about this. I will make the correction. glad to see grammar and literature matter to some people. my brother was always correcting me. also would say the word your looking for is. so I understand your frustration. update to the quoted text. I actually discovered probably half of the game breaking builds in this game lol. most notably is the havoc blink. I was using that within hours of the dlc update.
How is archon so low when it’s literally used in Every apocalypse video i see?
Archon is a powerful but niche class, this list ranks survivability, flexibility and other solo player relevant criteria higher then raw damage output for example. And "meta" Apoc builds are really varied, I have seen a lot more then just Archon builds - like undying tank builds Medic/Summoner or classic Hunter/Gunslinger glass cannon and the new Ritualist builds.