You have to keep in mind that the original pedals are practically inaccessible to third world musicians, and China is doing a great service by giving us the opportunity to get to know the most famous circuits. I bought an AT-DS clone myself and from what I've seen in the rewiews, it comes pretty close in both sound and build. So, that's all, Chinese manufacturers have been looking better to third world musicians, who deserve attention for being great artists too!
I totally agree, as a poor musician in college I can't afford 200 dollar pedals. I was never going to get it in the first place so I'm not taking money from the original maker.
You summarised the issue perfectly. When the exchange rate is so aggressive that buying a pedal uses the same amount of money as what you have budgeted for groceries + utilities, you need an alternative.
Yeah but the problem is intellectual theft and an unethical way to make money off the research and development of companies who develop products. Regardless of cost it’s morally reprehensible and undermines creativity. It’s just a shitty ripoff.
I just got the Demon Fx 33 Boost based of the Fortin 33 literally the day before it quickly got pulled from the US market, I gotta say I'm quite impressed.
There's a internal trim pot on the freedman,can really crank the gain or back off trimmer and get more clean od tones...I love mine got it for free...alot versatility w the internal trim pot
I have a Klon clone and a King Of Tone clone from them and they're fn outstanding. Ethics wise they're bankrupt. Functions wise for 50 dollars, jesus christ, get off your butt and try one. Most of us will never have the means for a Centaur of any real sort, or the wait or the 800 something dollars for a KOT so I'm not butthurt at all, personally.
This is not a comment on your video at all, but people always cite the ethics of buying a cheap clone. Yet the ethics of large companies that are allowed and accepted to charge 100's of dollars for these pedals are never questioned. Often a lot of these pedals are made in the same factories as the clones themselves, which are sold for a fraction of the price. That's before we even mention that a lot of these big brand pedals are often just modded versions of circuits that someone else designed in the first place or are clones themselves. Friedman are hypocrites, they themselves rose to prominence selling Amps that were essentially Marshall clones. So they based a pedal on one of their amps, an amp which in itself was basically a modded Marshall clone and then get upset when someone sells a clone of their pedal that in itself was based on the sound of a circuit that they modded from the sound of someone else's design. STFU, there are two types of people that but a cheap clone. The person who buys the clone and likes it to then eventually buys the real deal or the person who was never ever going to pay that much for the OG Friedman to begin with. So basically they are upset that someone who could never afford or would never buy their pedal has access now to that similar sound. These people would never have bought your pedal to begin with!! That's why they bought a £50 clone. If not they would have just bought someone else's £50 pedal instead anyway. There are many companies that sell great pedals at reasonable prices like TC Electronic, NUX or Electro-Harmonix but some companies just want to price gouge plain and simple. I have no sympathy, I will never shed a tear over big business being undercut by smaller players when big business are the ones with all the margin.
I do love the fact most all these so called boutique pedal builders ripped off someone's circuits and revamped them and now there pissed it's happening to them..tonebenders,fuzzfaces, etc etc...bite the bullet....
Good shout mate! Glad you said it cos I’ve been thinking it, exactly all these effects pedals were originally made years ago and the boutique builders put their own little twist on whatever circuit which have all been done before, they’ve not one up with anything completely new, the just copied previous pedals and change and add the odd thing, as well as a fuckin ridiculously expensive price!! so they have no right to get disgruntled in my opinion cos a few far-eastern pedal makers then clone them and sell them at a totally more reasonable price for the average person. So to the far-eastern cloners/ copiers, nice one keep putting them out, I’ll keep buying them and if you don’t agree with it then fair play it’s your choice don’t buy them and you keep buying and paying ridiculously overpriced boutique pedals.
Mosky and Demon pedals are the same company. Both are under the Moogoo umbrella. Moogoo has from time to time made forgeries. I think the Demon branded pedals are a happy middle ground. According to Josh Smith of JHS and Dave Friedman they are not breaking any laws and at best can be seen as having a lack of integrity. Demon and Mosky handmade pedals do not dumb down the parts or build but do substitute parts. Keep in mind ALL the good German, Japanese and U.S. parts are made in China. They are no longer overly pricey. Even the best parts are not more than a couple of bucks retail. Wholesale in bulk they are often even less than a buck. A tech told me having the Mosky Browne and the Wampler Pinnacle apart that only 2 key parts were different. Mosky substituted them with a brand that he pays more for then the one in the Wampler. The other change he noted was that Mosky changed an exact same part and brand with one that would give you more level on the output. In layman's terms you can get the Wampler to go from zero to 10 but the Mosky goes from 1 to 11, LOL
I'm curious as to how the Demonfx Overdrive Preamp sounds. It's a multieffect clone of the DOD 250/YJM 308/MXR Distortion, and also has a Ge/boost/Si toggle. I really want a DOD 250, but I'm not currently able to shell out $250+ for a vintage model.
I purchased a Demonfx d7K (clone of DG b7k Ultra) due to being interested in the original, but not really feeling the Darkglass was a reasonable purchase at over 400 bucks. It sounds incredible, and matched all the features. I was so impressed with it, I ended up buying an actual Darkglass Alpha Omega. I know its just anecdotal but Darkglass would never have been able to get any of money at such a high cost. The clone proved it was worth it.
How the hell did I miss this Video! Curious about these but will honestly just ask if You’ve demoed the R revv clones) and if You had to choose, this Freedman or Joyo Uzi and R3 or Dark Flame! Thanks Robert You Rock!
Once had a fortune that read "life for you is a dashing bold adventure so sing and rejoice" which is a line from a Faith No More song. Both those pedals sound great and the build quality looked solid as soon as you took em out of the box. I would choose the Freedman, sounds all John Fivey. If you copy a pedal and put your own tweaks in like Josh at JHS well that's no different than Albert Collins tellin SRV "yeah I heard you playin my stuff all over that David Bowie album", whatcha gonna do?
Great video review. I just ordered my "Freedman" OD from the big "A" and look forward to getting my hands on it. I would not have known about it without your review so thanks!
Have the TS9/808 and R4 (G4) clone. They are great. So My Joyo Darkflame is My G3 and Uzi is BEOD. Getting the Solo suhr riot clone next. I Love Em! Sick Riffage Robert and Thanks for Making them shine. They have a Dirty Shirley and the deluxe too. I need the LYR Rock 3 c preamp or the Joyo Rigel lmao. Guptech has a decent Diesel clone of VH5 called the Vej 5. I don’t need the big brand names anymore how close they are getting these. Precision Drive? Yeah I have the Joyo Argos. My most expensive pedal is the Mooer Radar! I don’t know who I am Talking to but these are good times Man!
I collect all kinds of pedals. I love the reviews you post. They help me in making my decisions of what to buy. Keep it up Robert! Lately I've been snagging up some eqrthquaker devices pedals, they have some crazy sounding ones.
@@RobertWJackson Oh no, I knew that. And I agree. Weird as heck company. A weird pedal company that isn't owned by Zackary Vex is bound to make a kickass auto wah.
Another good one, Robert. This may be the first time I bought a pedal BEFORE I saw your video, lol. I have a few Demonfx pedals already. Seems these things are getting banned all over the place. But I DO like my King of Drive quite a bit. I don't want to advertise for them, but in some situations it's the only way a regular Joe like me can ever get to hear these pedals. Watched a lot of videos on this and other Pedals by the company, And they have a solid reputation as high quality(Moral reputation, I don't know.
I get why some people might feel that they’re unethical to build and unethical to buy, but the truth is you’re absolutely right. $350 (along with a 2-year wait) for a King Of Tone overdrive pedal is out of reach for a lot of people. Especially in today’s economy. Buying a Demonfx clone or a clone from another company might be the only way those folks ever get to experience a particular sound.
Yeah, okay, put em in your sock drawer collection until Spring cleaning time. I'm kinda hooked on our Rocktron Third Angel Distortion pedals cause they work well plugged into almost any amp or direct into a DAW computer. They don't fall apart into those crowd clearing totally useless gravel on most of the settings. Anyways, any pedal that has Deceive and Unrighteous knob controls makes you feel like you are tapping into another dimension beyond and it performs like it. Just sayin'. After all, this is the comments section.
Hey Robert! Can u make a video showing the difference between a Gibson Les paul traditional and a standard, studio, classic, tribute model etc. Thanks in advance doooood! (I just bought a Les Paul Traditional in a great deal)
I have a number of shameless Chinese clones, including three of the Demonfx ones (BE-ODx, BB Pre-amp and their King Tone Duellist copy, the Dualgun), and can honestly say they’re cracking value at the price. Yes, they may feel a bit cheap, and the hardware will likely give way before it would on the genuine pedals but they sound good and that’s what matters. The BE-ODx and Dualgun sound fantastic, actually. The BB wasn’t for me, so much… In respect of how shameless they are as clones, I’m in two minds; sure, I feel for those companies who have had their intellectual property “borrowed” (to be euphemistic, although imitation is supposedly the sincerest form of flattery 😉), but if you don’t have easy access to the genuine pedals, or frankly the cash, these are a great way to make some decent sounding noises. There are also so many KoT clones out there, it would be harsh to pick only on Denonfx: 68 Pedals, Joyo, LY Rock, Tone City all do them, to name a few, in some shape of form (I keep telling my mate, who is on the 3-year waiting list in England for a KoT to grab one in the meantime). Put it this way, I watched a ton of vids on the BE-OD but, being locked-down through the pandemic, I really didn’t want to spend £200 “blind” buying something I’d not actually tried out with my guitar through my amp. Instead, I spent £35 on the Demonfx BE-ODx…It confirmed my hopes for the Friedman so I bought one of those too. Everybody wins: Demonfx, Friedman and, most importantly, me 😁 Great vid as ever dude; if you keep making them, I’ll keep watching 🤘
What differences do you find between the DemonFx and Friedman BE-ODs? I was in the same boat as you. I bought the DemonFx and love it. Now I'm considering on getting the Friedman.
Hiya! The Friedman has what I can only describe as a bit more “umph”, more depth to the sound, but that’s about it really. The friend I mentioned in my original post did say he hoped I hadn’t spent loads on a pedal that wouldn’t sound as good because he loved the little sound bites of the ODx I’d sent him 😂 Plus, as I mentioned, I’d guess the hardware will take more of a beating before breaking on the Friedman (if you’re not gigging though, it’ll probably not be an issue). If cash is a bit tight, but you really want the real pedal, I’d suggest looking for one second hand, as I did in the end; £130 paid, off eBay 😁 (I’ve also just had a brush with cancer which did influence me a bit in spending more cash!) But if you’re happy with the ODx, fair enough; it’s a cracking pedal, whatever it cost. Oh, if pedalboard space is any kind of issue for you, note the Friedman is ever so slightly bigger than the ODx 👍 Hope that’s helpful!
@@Marimba7 thank you so much for that thorough answer. You really did help. Since I'm not gigging I'll stay with the ODx a bit more. I wish you all the best and continue being good to yourself !!!
If you could choose one between the demonfx freedman odx or the byang metal end king which do you prefer for metal? I’m going to get one but not sure between the 2 thanks!
As I recall the freedman pedals were manufactured like crap. The 9v in just stuck off the circuit board. Entire reason I refused to buy it. Like buying a car with square wheels.
Demonfx! Demonfx Demonfx ! Best brand in the game I replaced all my boss pedal with them better version at lower cost great sound and quality construction
Hello, the in the video he said that it is illegal to sell this pedal in the US, do you know if it is also illegal to import it through Amazon or will it ship to a US address no problem?
@Radrex89 it’s not illegal to sell it in the U.S. it’s illegal to steal the artwork from it. That is what is trademarked. Electronic circuits cannot be trademarked.
@@RobertWJackson ah, so you think it would be no problem for me if I buy it, have it shipped to a US adress private postal service that will then ship to my country in south america?
Demonfx are hit and miss with me there chorus pedal was great and the king of drive sounds great on my twin reverb but terrible on any other amp but the tape echo was bad and so was the od 250 clone but for the price its worth it to me to have a 50/50 chance I'll like it crap there like 25-65$ depending on the pedal
The real friedman is like $380 and the demonfx friedman only $50 and sound the same. Just go to show u how much all the big companies are taxing every one
Lol the BE OD is cool...if you don't have any other MIAB pedal to compare it to. Dunno who paid who to overpromote the "Marshall clone with the politest (smallest) low end, ever" amps for $3k but I only am familiar with them since DSLs stop being stocked at GC. Not really a tonal upgrade from one tbqh
@@RobertWJackson Your cheap crap , and you advertise it as mentality ill. It’s what their ideology is based off of. It’s like they compete to see who has the strongest mental illness.
You have to keep in mind that the original pedals are practically inaccessible to third world musicians, and China is doing a great service by giving us the opportunity to get to know the most famous circuits. I bought an AT-DS clone myself and from what I've seen in the rewiews, it comes pretty close in both sound and build. So, that's all, Chinese manufacturers have been looking better to third world musicians, who deserve attention for being great artists too!
what a fantastic response
I totally agree, as a poor musician in college I can't afford 200 dollar pedals. I was never going to get it in the first place so I'm not taking money from the original maker.
I'm Brazilian and a pedal here cost more than much citizens gain in a month. I'm not a professional, i play guitar for fun.
You summarised the issue perfectly. When the exchange rate is so aggressive that buying a pedal uses the same amount of money as what you have budgeted for groceries + utilities, you need an alternative.
Yeah but the problem is intellectual theft and an unethical way to make money off the research and development of companies who develop products. Regardless of cost it’s morally reprehensible and undermines creativity. It’s just a shitty ripoff.
i have the king of drive and it sounds really good. Definetly recommended for the price. i own lots of boutique ones but this clone is very well done.
I just got the Demon Fx 33 Boost based of the Fortin 33 literally the day before it quickly got pulled from the US market, I gotta say I'm quite impressed.
I'm waiting on mine. Got it on Ali.
There's a internal trim pot on the freedman,can really crank the gain or back off trimmer and get more clean od tones...I love mine got it for free...alot versatility w the internal trim pot
From what I have seen, Demonfx are WICKED good clones. I can personally vouch for the Microtubes A7K. Obviously a clone of the B7K. It's near perfect.
I have half dozen Demonfx pedals the most disappointing is the Sun face Mini chorus clone..
@@bigstick5278 I saw that. I passed on it and went for the Twinote chorus instead. It's really good!
I have a Klon clone and a King Of Tone clone from them and they're fn outstanding.
Ethics wise they're bankrupt.
Functions wise for 50 dollars, jesus christ, get off your butt and try one. Most of us will never have the means for a Centaur of any real sort, or the wait or the 800 something dollars for a KOT so I'm not butthurt at all, personally.
@@voided76 Anyone who gets a DemonFX piece says the same thing, man. Outstanding copies, and they have balls on em!
This is not a comment on your video at all, but people always cite the ethics of buying a cheap clone. Yet the ethics of large companies that are allowed and accepted to charge 100's of dollars for these pedals are never questioned. Often a lot of these pedals are made in the same factories as the clones themselves, which are sold for a fraction of the price. That's before we even mention that a lot of these big brand pedals are often just modded versions of circuits that someone else designed in the first place or are clones themselves.
Friedman are hypocrites, they themselves rose to prominence selling Amps that were essentially Marshall clones. So they based a pedal on one of their amps, an amp which in itself was basically a modded Marshall clone and then get upset when someone sells a clone of their pedal that in itself was based on the sound of a circuit that they modded from the sound of someone else's design. STFU, there are two types of people that but a cheap clone. The person who buys the clone and likes it to then eventually buys the real deal or the person who was never ever going to pay that much for the OG Friedman to begin with. So basically they are upset that someone who could never afford or would never buy their pedal has access now to that similar sound. These people would never have bought your pedal to begin with!! That's why they bought a £50 clone. If not they would have just bought someone else's £50 pedal instead anyway. There are many companies that sell great pedals at reasonable prices like TC Electronic, NUX or Electro-Harmonix but some companies just want to price gouge plain and simple.
I have no sympathy, I will never shed a tear over big business being undercut by smaller players when big business are the ones with all the margin.
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@@TheUltrawideGuy great comment man you hit the nail right on the head.
I recently took delivery of the King of Drives pedal, I haven’t had much time to give it a good tryout but what I did hear I liked.
I do love the fact most all these so called boutique pedal builders ripped off someone's circuits and revamped them and now there pissed it's happening to them..tonebenders,fuzzfaces, etc etc...bite the bullet....
Yep. LOL
Good shout mate! Glad you said it cos I’ve been thinking it, exactly all these effects pedals were originally made years ago and the boutique builders put their own little twist on whatever circuit which have all been done before, they’ve not one up with anything completely new, the just copied previous pedals and change and add the odd thing, as well as a fuckin ridiculously expensive price!! so they have no right to get disgruntled in my opinion cos a few far-eastern pedal makers then clone them and sell them at a totally more reasonable price for the average person. So to the far-eastern cloners/ copiers, nice one keep putting them out, I’ll keep buying them and if you don’t agree with it then fair play it’s your choice don’t buy them and you keep buying and paying ridiculously overpriced boutique pedals.
Exactly KOT is just a replica at the first place
Mosky and Demon pedals are the same company. Both are under the Moogoo umbrella. Moogoo has from time to time made forgeries. I think the Demon branded pedals are a happy middle ground. According to Josh Smith of JHS and Dave Friedman they are not breaking any laws and at best can be seen as having a lack of integrity. Demon and Mosky handmade pedals do not dumb down the parts or build but do substitute parts. Keep in mind ALL the good German, Japanese and U.S. parts are made in China. They are no longer overly pricey. Even the best parts are not more than a couple of bucks retail. Wholesale in bulk they are often even less than a buck. A tech told me having the Mosky Browne and the Wampler Pinnacle apart that only 2 key parts were different. Mosky substituted them with a brand that he pays more for then the one in the Wampler. The other change he noted was that Mosky changed an exact same part and brand with one that would give you more level on the output. In layman's terms you can get the Wampler to go from zero to 10 but the Mosky goes from 1 to 11, LOL
Josh smith the guy who sell overpriced clones talking about breaking laws and lack of integrity?🤣🤡🤡
@@leonruvalcaba1549 I know, I spat my coffee out, he's the worse slime ball to do it. LOL
I'm curious as to how the Demonfx Overdrive Preamp sounds. It's a multieffect clone of the DOD 250/YJM 308/MXR Distortion, and also has a Ge/boost/Si toggle. I really want a DOD 250, but I'm not currently able to shell out $250+ for a vintage model.
IMHO they are good as ''original'' and sometimes even better, i saw that Demon fx use better pots and capacitors in some cases.
I purchased a Demonfx d7K (clone of DG b7k Ultra) due to being interested in the original, but not really feeling the Darkglass was a reasonable purchase at over 400 bucks. It sounds incredible, and matched all the features. I was so impressed with it, I ended up buying an actual Darkglass Alpha Omega. I know its just anecdotal but Darkglass would never have been able to get any of money at such a high cost. The clone proved it was worth it.
Your playing sounds great. Love the songs you come up with.
How the hell did I miss this Video! Curious about these but will honestly just ask if You’ve demoed the R revv clones) and if You had to choose, this Freedman or Joyo Uzi and R3 or Dark Flame! Thanks Robert You Rock!
I have the demon fx tubescreamer clone. Cheap but really good.
I only use clone pedals now, all handmade by local guys but I find if they're made well they're 1-1
Once had a fortune that read "life for you is a dashing bold adventure so sing and rejoice" which is a line from a Faith No More song. Both those pedals sound great and the build quality looked solid as soon as you took em out of the box. I would choose the Freedman, sounds all John Fivey. If you copy a pedal and put your own tweaks in like Josh at JHS well that's no different than Albert Collins tellin SRV "yeah I heard you playin my stuff all over that David Bowie album", whatcha gonna do?
Great video review.
I just ordered my "Freedman" OD from the big "A" and look forward to getting my hands on it. I would not have known about it without your review so thanks!
The King of Drive is amazing. Never played the KoT but it doesn’t matter as the tone from the KoD is killer.
I am waiting on delivery of "Gravity" and "83."
Hi did your pedal make noise while in high gain mode?
I find mine buzzing when I stop playing on distortion and high gain mode
Thanks for reviewing these pedals. They are pretty cool.
Have the TS9/808 and R4 (G4) clone. They are great. So My Joyo Darkflame is My G3 and Uzi is BEOD. Getting the Solo suhr riot clone next. I Love Em! Sick Riffage Robert and Thanks for Making them shine. They have a Dirty Shirley and the deluxe too. I need the LYR Rock 3 c preamp or the Joyo Rigel lmao. Guptech has a decent Diesel clone of VH5 called the Vej 5. I don’t need the big brand names anymore how close they are getting these. Precision Drive? Yeah I have the Joyo Argos. My most expensive pedal is the Mooer Radar! I don’t know who I am Talking to but these are good times Man!
I collect all kinds of pedals. I love the reviews you post. They help me in making my decisions of what to buy. Keep it up Robert!
Lately I've been snagging up some eqrthquaker devices pedals, they have some crazy sounding ones.
EQD are definitely the weirdos of the pedal industry. LOL
@@RobertWJackson The Spatial delivery is kinda SICK, though..
I didn’t say they were bad pedals, they’re not. I said they’re WEIRD. They’ve told me that themselves. LOL
@@RobertWJackson Oh no, I knew that. And I agree. Weird as heck company. A weird pedal company that isn't owned by Zackary Vex is bound to make a kickass auto wah.
Another good one, Robert. This may be the first time I bought a pedal BEFORE I saw your video, lol. I have a few Demonfx pedals already. Seems these things are getting banned all over the place. But I DO like my King of Drive quite a bit. I don't want to advertise for them, but in some situations it's the only way a regular Joe like me can ever get to hear these pedals. Watched a lot of videos on this and other Pedals by the company, And they have a solid reputation as high quality(Moral reputation, I don't know.
I get why some people might feel that they’re unethical to build and unethical to buy, but the truth is you’re absolutely right. $350 (along with a 2-year wait) for a King Of Tone overdrive pedal is out of reach for a lot of people. Especially in today’s economy. Buying a Demonfx clone or a clone from another company might be the only way those folks ever get to experience a particular sound.
@@RobertWJackson Another point is, I like this pedal for what I paid for it. But I don't like it $350 worth. It's good, but nor THAT good.
Agreed.
Always asking the important questions to start it off! LOL! I have a Demon FX pedal, specifically the Precisions Drive clone. I love it.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, okay, put em in your sock drawer collection until Spring cleaning time. I'm kinda hooked on our Rocktron Third Angel Distortion pedals cause they work well plugged into almost any amp or direct into a DAW computer. They don't fall apart into those crowd clearing totally useless gravel on most of the settings. Anyways, any pedal that has Deceive and Unrighteous knob controls makes you feel like you are tapping into another dimension beyond and it performs like it. Just sayin'. After all, this is the comments section.
I cannot afford the pricier US models so I have bought a couple of Demonfx products and they work for me
Hey Robert!
Can u make a video showing the difference between a Gibson Les paul traditional and a standard, studio, classic, tribute model etc.
Thanks in advance doooood!
(I just bought a Les Paul Traditional in a great deal)
Hi
What do you mean by avoiding cirkulation I just ordered a Dfx 68 pedal from aliexpress ?
The gain doesnt really seem to change much on the Freedman... interesting
I have a number of shameless Chinese clones, including three of the Demonfx ones (BE-ODx, BB Pre-amp and their King Tone Duellist copy, the Dualgun), and can honestly say they’re cracking value at the price. Yes, they may feel a bit cheap, and the hardware will likely give way before it would on the genuine pedals but they sound good and that’s what matters. The BE-ODx and Dualgun sound fantastic, actually. The BB wasn’t for me, so much…
In respect of how shameless they are as clones, I’m in two minds; sure, I feel for those companies who have had their intellectual property “borrowed” (to be euphemistic, although imitation is supposedly the sincerest form of flattery 😉), but if you don’t have easy access to the genuine pedals, or frankly the cash, these are a great way to make some decent sounding noises.
There are also so many KoT clones out there, it would be harsh to pick only on Denonfx: 68 Pedals, Joyo, LY Rock, Tone City all do them, to name a few, in some shape of form (I keep telling my mate, who is on the 3-year waiting list in England for a KoT to grab one in the meantime).
Put it this way, I watched a ton of vids on the BE-OD but, being locked-down through the pandemic, I really didn’t want to spend £200 “blind” buying something I’d not actually tried out with my guitar through my amp. Instead, I spent £35 on the Demonfx BE-ODx…It confirmed my hopes for the Friedman so I bought one of those too. Everybody wins: Demonfx, Friedman and, most importantly, me 😁
Great vid as ever dude; if you keep making them, I’ll keep watching 🤘
What differences do you find between the DemonFx and Friedman BE-ODs? I was in the same boat as you. I bought the DemonFx and love it. Now I'm considering on getting the Friedman.
Hiya! The Friedman has what I can only describe as a bit more “umph”, more depth to the sound, but that’s about it really. The friend I mentioned in my original post did say he hoped I hadn’t spent loads on a pedal that wouldn’t sound as good because he loved the little sound bites of the ODx I’d sent him 😂 Plus, as I mentioned, I’d guess the hardware will take more of a beating before breaking on the Friedman (if you’re not gigging though, it’ll probably not be an issue).
If cash is a bit tight, but you really want the real pedal, I’d suggest looking for one second hand, as I did in the end; £130 paid, off eBay 😁 (I’ve also just had a brush with cancer which did influence me a bit in spending more cash!) But if you’re happy with the ODx, fair enough; it’s a cracking pedal, whatever it cost.
Oh, if pedalboard space is any kind of issue for you, note the Friedman is ever so slightly bigger than the ODx 👍
Hope that’s helpful!
@@Marimba7 thank you so much for that thorough answer. You really did help. Since I'm not gigging I'll stay with the ODx a bit more. I wish you all the best and continue being good to yourself !!!
Was your be od clone as noisey as the real deal?
Trim pots inside turn full counter clockwise and you are in Analogman setting.
If you could choose one between the demonfx freedman odx or the byang metal end king which do you prefer for metal? I’m going to get one but not sure between the 2 thanks!
Whichever one sounds better! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
The pedals sound pretty good for the most part. The Freedman was fairly close and other one has some interesting tones. Thanks as always Robert!
As I recall the freedman pedals were manufactured like crap. The 9v in just stuck off the circuit board. Entire reason I refused to buy it. Like buying a car with square wheels.
Honestly I would be reluctant to purchase knockoffs like these things. Especially if the patents are still valid.
Demonfx! Demonfx Demonfx ! Best brand in the game I replaced all my boss pedal with them better version at lower cost great sound and quality construction
Lol - my BE video comes out next week and I said some of the same things! Great job!
Thanks man! I’ll be looking forward to your video.
That was honestly one of the most incredible tones you ever got in my opinion 💯 china 🤯the Freedman and nice wang btw
5:24 sounds good
Don't fortune cookies come with a 'best before date' like other comestibles? ....
I ain't never seen someone use a KOT (or clone) for heavy riffin'. Back to my underwater cave, I suppose? Nice.🤘
Good video
Yeah I'm surprised they got away with that freedman pedal. Takes some nerve
Makes me want a BE amp!!! Ohhh
I've been thinking on buying the demon fx kaylee compressor clone, have anyone tried that one out?
The Freedman sounds very Fried...man. LOL It's a bit like my NUX Fireman which is kind of a clone of a BE-OD Deluxe?
The Fireman is also a great pedal. I have that one, as well.
Hey Robert. In your opinion, would the Freedman clone fool somebody in a blindfold test?
I’ve never A/B’ed them side-by-side, so I couldn’t be sure, but it sure sounds like it would get awfully close.
I have the freedman and the steel string supreme by demon fx. Haven’t tried them yet my amps are with my tech guy
Hello, the in the video he said that it is illegal to sell this pedal in the US, do you know if it is also illegal to import it through Amazon or will it ship to a US address no problem?
@Radrex89 it’s not illegal to sell it in the U.S. it’s illegal to steal the artwork from it. That is what is trademarked. Electronic circuits cannot be trademarked.
@@RobertWJackson ah, so you think it would be no problem for me if I buy it, have it shipped to a US adress private postal service that will then ship to my country in south america?
@Radrex89 Nope, no problem at all.
@@RobertWJackson tyvm man. Have a good day.
These pedals are badass I really dig'em 🎸👍🎸 Great Video
🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
BE ODX IS UNREAL, I LOVE IT
ME TOO, I THINK IT’S AWESOME. WHY ARE WE YELLING???
\m/ Low price but high quality \m/
Currently they are making clones of clones.😅 Nordvang...... 450 dollar clone. Demon fx....... 78 bucks
Each demon fx pedal prefer mA?
Not sure, but nothing crazy. Overdrive and distortion pedals generally aren’t current hogs anyway.
@@RobertWJackson ok tq
The Freedman is pretty close!
Demonfx are hit and miss with me there chorus pedal was great and the king of drive sounds great on my twin reverb but terrible on any other amp but the tape echo was bad and so was the od 250 clone but for the price its worth it to me to have a 50/50 chance I'll like it crap there like 25-65$ depending on the pedal
I’d rather turn up to a gig with £300 quids worth of these pedals rather than £3k of the real ones for some twat to spill drinks over
In today's world of amazing gear WHY WOULD ANYONE WAIT 2 OR 3 YRS FOR A PE 5:16 DAL...5 WORDS FOR YOU BROWNE AMPS.PROTEIN DRIVE
where can i get these knock off pedals?
Amazon, eBay, etc.
AliExpress, DHGate, things like that
Let's remember that those of us who buy PAF style pickups are buying clones also
About ethics, I think is not ethic to sell a guitar pedal like friedman be od by the price of 2 months of hard work in latin america.
The real friedman is like $380 and the demonfx friedman only $50 and sound the same. Just go to show u how much all the big companies are taxing every one
Love your videos, hate the jokes, lol
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Lol the BE OD is cool...if you don't have any other MIAB pedal to compare it to.
Dunno who paid who to overpromote the "Marshall clone with the politest (smallest) low end, ever" amps for $3k but I only am familiar with them since DSLs stop being stocked at GC.
Not really a tonal upgrade from one tbqh
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you should try show business...
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Crap demo
Sometimes I try to fart in my own mouth.
CRAP !
What happened??? Did you drop one on your foot or something???
You never tried one so go play with your Dolls ;)
@@GhostriderPossum my toys are made in USA the real Dirty Shirley and OD !
“Made In USA” from parts made in China. By the way, where’s that smartphone or computer that you used to type that comment made?
@@RobertWJackson Your cheap crap , and you advertise it as mentality ill. It’s what their ideology is based off of. It’s like they compete to see who has the strongest mental illness.
Stealing from companies. F this. Come on man.
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Though, the King Of Tone is a Marshall Bluesbreaker circuit, and the BE-OD is a hot-rodded Marshall Plexi circuit. Who’s stealing again?
Yo momma F this
Facts