*@Joel_Huaracha* SGA was an above average player until he developed into a superstar (currently top 5 or 6 in the league). He deserves his FTs just like every other player.
He’s one of the best players in the league, but watching these guys in the playoffs shows that this young team is incredible. Without Chet this team crumbles, but that’s the same for multiple other guys.
It kinda is I do think he still has alot of work to do but what he's done in such a short time is pretty impressive...kds great but he literally needs fully stacked teams to even compete and still doesn't compete 😅
@@siredrediii7015 he’s a solid number 2-3 option, Chet just a rookie, Dort great defender. What that being said no one was expecting OKC to jump from the 10th seed to the 1st. Maybe 4th-5th seed
@@vishtakes your missing the bench pieces they had as well a rookie can make a great impact look at lively on the mavericks or wemby when he is actually allowed to play
@@siredrediii7015 okay every great player needs some kind of depth in order to succeed throughout the regular season. If the Mavs didn’t tank for Lively then later on add Gafford and PJ post trade deadline Mavs would be in the 8th seed and Luka wouldn’t even be a top 3 MVP candidate at that point
@@vishtakesur missing the point of what theyre saying. ticket was saying shai is currently doing more of a carry job than kd has ever done in his career
Also Kawhi and PG missed 15 games and Irving missed 25 games and Beal missed 30 Booker 20 games, Ingram 20 Zion 15 games.....with that being said they would be nr.7 seed 😂😂😂
It’s mostly their spacing that makes shai better in 1on1 situations since Chet or Jaylin Williams is two skips away and every one else is a pretty damn good shooter letting him go 1on1 more often and with a lot more space
Shai averaged the same exact stats last year and they were a play in team and didn’t even make the playoffs the only real difference is their defense and the addition of Chet and they only the number one seed because they hold a tiebreaker in the division over Denver they have the exact same record its not like they the clear cut number 1 sees until shai gets to 4 wcf with okc alongside sniff a nba finals he got ways to go the kd disrespect is out of hand
They the number 1 seed cuz they beat Denver 3 times out of 4 which won them the head to head advantage and anyone saying free throws well nigha freetheows part game it sucks he makes them we know
Shai leading a group of kindergarteners to the 1 seed and a winning record against Jokic this season is why he’s the MVP. They’re not a lottery team without him but without his leadership they’re for sure not a top 10 team in the league. That being said, there’s 3 guys ahead of him as a player. You don’t have to be the best player in the league to win MVP. Bron and MJ would have 10+ MVPs if that were the case.
The argument of “without so and so” they’d be worse Like no shit captain obvious, that’s not really an argument But it’s one of those flawed arguments where you can use it both ways , without SGA OKC sucks but if they win without SGA then SGA impact isn’t as big Pointless in talking to this dude
Doesn't matter no one had okc being number 1 seed... Especially when team full of 19 -22 year old y'all same nigha who make excuses for young tems lossing now dont cuz the actually did good sga in old nartives would've won mvp like Nash didd all sudden media voters want to give it actual best player lol if they did this back then lebron would have 6 mvp shaq 3 Kobe 3
Okc team is literally full of 19 year old or 22 year old shai onyk 26 year old 😂. It's the playoffs experience u think jokic would lead a college team to number 1 seed lol 😂. I mean when lakers cooked nuggets in 5 all y'all say jokic was young yet he was the same age is sga rn 💀
@@chaos5840 you’re probably right. I don’t watch it ever, but Swipa is a respected national media member. This guy “Ticket” acts like he hasn’t watched basketball in 20 years
“OKC is a lottery team without SGA”…😂 That’s completely delusional!!! According to the Win Shares tracker if you remove SGA from the team & replace him with NOBODY the Thunder win 43 games. Replace Jokic with NOBODY & Denver wins 40 games based on that same Win Share tracker. Stop glazing at look at the actual empirical data/evidence. 🤦🏼♂️
@@YusufRawlinson You can’t link stuff here on TH-cam that’s not a YT link. Go to basketball reference & add up each players Win Shares & subtract their Individual Win Shares from the total games the team won & it equals the exact numbers I quoted. I don’t make comments without doing all the research first.
Fam they not making the playoffs without a mf who had all them 30 point games. Do they play defense, yes but that alone not gettin u to the playoffs in west so stop it. Not to mention that SGA got straps too! Nobody on the team can average 25 plus a game.
What universe did you come from??? Harden was seen as Hitler for his his foul baiting in his prime. Nobody even cared that he was averaging all most 40 points one year because the fans hated him
I guess if you value seeding. For me mvp means the player with the most recorded value, obviously I’m gonna say this year’s scoring leader deserved it.
Ticket got cooked this episode
Every
Every time I listen to I wonder how he gets on these shows. He’s just a guy. Doesn’t know what he’s saying
Most episodes he does he just makes a big deal of when he is actually right about something
HE ALWAYS GETTIN COOKED
@@NK-mr3rhhe played professionally so he act like other people can’t know basketball
Best foul merchant
Y'all may not like it bout bein about to draw fouls is a skill period point blank.
@@johndavis9321but when embid do it & harden do it you niggas cry all day man keep the same energy
@@johndavis9321harden the goat
SGA has good young talent that's still developing with him. That's the beauty of OKC.
Beauty and it’s scary esp if they stick together could be another dynasty
SGA was an above average player before the league gave him the harden whistle.
cap
Just watch basketball bro
Exactly this, man gets to his spot and it’s like he doesn’t miss. He really doesn’t need the fts, and I hate how much they damage his rep.
Don't ever talk basketball again... please
*@Joel_Huaracha*
SGA was an above average player until he developed into a superstar (currently top 5 or 6 in the league). He deserves his FTs just like every other player.
They were a 10 seed last year. Chet moved the needle
YOU HAVE NO CLUE HOW GOOD 2024 SHAI WAS!!!!
He’s one of the best players in the league, but watching these guys in the playoffs shows that this young team is incredible. Without Chet this team crumbles, but that’s the same for multiple other guys.
He has some of the best young talent in the league surrounding him
SGA should have his first MVP he carried that team to the second round
They’re definitely still a playoff team without SGA, although they would likely be in the play-in.
Ticket went on to say Shai leading this OKC team was impressive than what KD ever done with OKC.
Tickets is a joke
It kinda is I do think he still has alot of work to do but what he's done in such a short time is pretty impressive...kds great but he literally needs fully stacked teams to even compete and still doesn't compete 😅
@@ronjones3977Bruh, stop it. KD carried in 2012. Harden and Westbrook were just a bunch names back then
@@ronjones3977buddy KD took OKC to the finals in only his 5th year in the league, won a league MVP, and had 4 scoring titles there it’s not even close
And he just proved it minutes ago. No reliable 2nd option unlike Jokic and Luka. M.V.P
OKC record without SGA was 2-5 he stepped his game up more this season
Actually if you take a closer look jalen Williams wasn’t present for 3 out of those 5 loses
@@siredrediii7015 he’s a solid number 2-3 option, Chet just a rookie, Dort great defender. What that being said no one was expecting OKC to jump from the 10th seed to the 1st. Maybe 4th-5th seed
@@vishtakes your missing the bench pieces they had as well a rookie can make a great impact look at lively on the mavericks or wemby when he is actually allowed to play
@@siredrediii7015 okay every great player needs some kind of depth in order to succeed throughout the regular season. If the Mavs didn’t tank for Lively then later on add Gafford and PJ post trade deadline Mavs would be in the 8th seed and Luka wouldn’t even be a top 3 MVP candidate at that point
@@vishtakesur missing the point of what theyre saying. ticket was saying shai is currently doing more of a carry job than kd has ever done in his career
Respectfully, they're the number one seed because KAT got hurt
And Jamal Murray missed a third of the season.
Also Kawhi and PG missed 15 games and Irving missed 25 games and Beal missed 30 Booker 20 games, Ingram 20 Zion 15 games.....with that being said they would be nr.7 seed 😂😂😂
It’s mostly their spacing that makes shai better in 1on1 situations since Chet or Jaylin Williams is two skips away and every one else is a pretty damn good shooter letting him go 1on1 more often and with a lot more space
Probably the worst nba social media commentators rn
Ticket a right because look at what his teammates are doing now not a lot
Shai averaged the same exact stats last year and they were a play in team and didn’t even make the playoffs the only real difference is their defense and the addition of Chet and they only the number one seed because they hold a tiebreaker in the division over Denver they have the exact same record its not like they the clear cut number 1 sees until shai gets to 4 wcf with okc alongside sniff a nba finals he got ways to go the kd disrespect is out of hand
Ticket being ticket😂
They the number 1 seed cuz they beat Denver 3 times out of 4 which won them the head to head advantage and anyone saying free throws well nigha freetheows part game it sucks he makes them we know
Shai leading a group of kindergarteners to the 1 seed and a winning record against Jokic this season is why he’s the MVP. They’re not a lottery team without him but without his leadership they’re for sure not a top 10 team in the league.
That being said, there’s 3 guys ahead of him as a player. You don’t have to be the best player in the league to win MVP. Bron and MJ would have 10+ MVPs if that were the case.
The argument of “without so and so” they’d be worse
Like no shit captain obvious, that’s not really an argument
But it’s one of those flawed arguments where you can use it both ways , without SGA OKC sucks but if they win without SGA then SGA impact isn’t as big
Pointless in talking to this dude
So is SGA better than Kyrie right now?
Yes 👍
What was the answer to his question tho?
I feel like ant is gonna be better than shai but I could be wrong
Ok? You say that about most teams. Matter of fact last year this okc team without Chet was a lottery team
Doesn't matter no one had okc being number 1 seed... Especially when team full of 19 -22 year old y'all same nigha who make excuses for young tems lossing now dont cuz the actually did good sga in old nartives would've won mvp like Nash didd all sudden media voters want to give it actual best player lol if they did this back then lebron would have 6 mvp shaq 3 Kobe 3
2-1 down idk man Shai did his thing but needs helps
Okc team is literally full of 19 year old or 22 year old shai onyk 26 year old 😂. It's the playoffs experience u think jokic would lead a college team to number 1 seed lol 😂. I mean when lakers cooked nuggets in 5 all y'all say jokic was young yet he was the same age is sga rn 💀
And they r down 2-1
Apparently they are even with shai 😅
What is truly awful about this show is it is not debate, it's people yelling into the camera.
correction, what is awful about this show with ticket* its not this hostile with ticket gone
@@chaos5840 you’re probably right. I don’t watch it ever, but Swipa is a respected national media member. This guy “Ticket” acts like he hasn’t watched basketball in 20 years
“OKC is a lottery team without SGA”…😂
That’s completely delusional!!!
According to the Win Shares tracker if you remove SGA from the team & replace him with NOBODY the Thunder win 43 games. Replace Jokic with NOBODY & Denver wins 40 games based on that same Win Share tracker. Stop glazing at look at the actual empirical data/evidence. 🤦🏼♂️
What’s the link to save time?
@@YusufRawlinson
You can’t link stuff here on TH-cam that’s not a YT link. Go to basketball reference & add up each players Win Shares & subtract their Individual Win Shares from the total games the team won & it equals the exact numbers I quoted. I don’t make comments without doing all the research first.
Fam they not making the playoffs without a mf who had all them 30 point games. Do they play defense, yes but that alone not gettin u to the playoffs in west so stop it. Not to mention that SGA got straps too! Nobody on the team can average 25 plus a game.
Still lost to the Mavs
Foul
Ticket got this take, all facts
“No hold on ima cook to sorry ass now”😭😭😭😭
The nba is white right now
I love how people always call embid and shai foul merchants but praised rockets harden
I think he was the first one so it took time to understand what he was doing.
People called him a free throw merchant as well. Outside of his lack of post season play. It’s the main reason he’s not heavily touted.
What universe did you come from??? Harden was seen as Hitler for his his foul baiting in his prime. Nobody even cared that he was averaging all most 40 points one year because the fans hated him
Can you find a single person that has done that? People have hated harden for his foul baiting for damn near 10 years now.
I can’t listen to anyone that say SGA shouldn’t have won MVP this yr ..
Bro fasho got robbed and it’s setting the wrong example to the league
Found another clown. Joker beats him in almost every category. You will be taken serious.
Top 5 in steals, blocks, top 5 in dpoy 30ppg on 53/35/88 shooting splits. Jokic deserves it. But Shai winning is not a bad take
@@kaguragod7633all that may be true but top to bottom shai had the best roster out of the top 3 MVP guys
I guess if you value seeding. For me mvp means the player with the most recorded value, obviously I’m gonna say this year’s scoring leader deserved it.
sga ass luka better
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