To be fair those songs were mixed with the bass in mind so of course removing the bass track will sound terrrible. Having little to no bass is great for when you want something real harsh and cold like black metal.
@@Fireglo Even in Black Metal the Bass is pretty essential. Not in every band but check out anything Mayhem, Burzum, Imperium Dekadenz, Carparthian Forest etc. for those bands a lot of times the Bass plays melodic parts alongside the guitars. Fallen is a perfect example for a bm album with great bass lines
A lot of times the reason I hear people saying they can't hear bass in Metal, it's because the bass is often mistaken for part of the guitar line, but yes, bass is audible in Metal more often than it isn't. Hell, some bands like Weedeater and Saint Vitus actually have the bass up louder than the guitars.
Couldn't agree more. People tend to mistake low end bass as part of guitar. It is not. On the other end of the spectrum, bands like Beyond Creation or Ne Obliviscaris incorporate bass with unique lines apart from guitar, and it's impossible to not hear it
Agree on the first disagree on the second. I prefer JP. And I do think it's a shame Steve now does all the producing and mixing, earlier albums sounded so much better. Like Seventh Son. That record is crystal clear. Anything past BNW has become more and more muddy. Matter of Life and Death really started that sound but the songs were good so it's not too big a problem but on the latest record if you compare Maiden and JP you can very clearly hear which albun was made by a producer. Great guitar player too, saw hin live. Unfortunately Glen couldn't play anymore but Richie is the show anyway. He's like Rhandy Rhoads and Zakk Wylde in one person. Steve has kinda gone the Yngwie way. Do everything yourself, murder anyone who questions anything etc... Yngwie doesn't even have a band. He hires touring musicians and that's it. Records he plays everything. If he still had a singer it could work but he's not a great singer for his music. And he is decent but his music just calls for that high pitched operatic tenor (not unlike Bruce). Göran Edman fit the band so well but of course Yngwie has to piss everyone off.
@@StepUpMedia039 i think he agree's but he was trying to say was that at the tail end of the backbone is obviously.... THE BALLS and the bass is the balls in that scenario
there is one metal band that always stands out in my mind for putting the bass more at the front and that is mudvayne. The bass in Death blooms is great.
There's a lot of alternative metal bands (funk metal, nü metal, and so) where bass has a lot more presence or a different role in comparison to what's usually seen in other metal subgenres. Comes to mind the case of Korn where Fieldy (the bassist) uses the bass as if it was a percussion instrument.
It wouldn't sound that bad if it was actually mixed without bass. Of course simply removing a bass track from a song that was mixed with bass would sound bad. Listen to some early black metal.
@@Fireglo I don't even think they removed the bass track but just eq'd it out, removing also the bass frequencies of the guitars. So all it shows is that you need bass frequencies to sound good, but not that you need the actual bass, let alone if it "gets lost in the mix".
Honestly, the first part of the bass I hear in most metal/deathcore songs isn't the rumbling 80-140hz low end; it's that distinctive clankiness that hovers somewhere around the mid range. It adds a lot of character to songs overall. (Especially breakdowns) Hell, I'm a guitar player, mostly, but there's just something absolutely infectious about funky basslines. As much as I love soaring shrieking guitars; bass is like aural therapy. I don't want to imagine a world without it.
@@mrc25381 I would if I had a bass/the money to buy one. I'm also putting off getting one until I move out of my parents' because I live in a shoe box and I don't need to add an amp to the list of things that I trip over on a daily basis.
@@mrc25381It takes money, and not everyone lives where they can get an affordable instrument and gear. Bass gear is expensive compared to guitar, and l live in the US and can get (and own) plenty of inexpensive guitars, effects and amps that can be heard over drums and vocals, but bass requires much more than $100 USD to work for a beginner.
“Lifesblood For The Downtrodden” has the best bass sound/performance of Crowbar’s catalog. Wouldn’t expect anything else with Rex Brown playing on it - his tone is MONSTROUS
Now... if you love him SPELL IT CORRECTLY out of respect Dave Fucking ELLEFSON There has always been a rule in metal If you love the band or the guy if you put the word FUCKING in front of the name to show your level of love then raise the horns \m/ YOU BETTER !!! GET THE FUCKING NAME RIGHT In my day, for this.... You were bashed. Consider yourself fortunate that you are merely corrected and that's not a joke. if we got that wrong, a Megadeth fan would bash you thats' why WE CHECKED THINGS BEFORE WE SAID OR WROTE THEM DOWN something that people no longer give a fuck to do LEARN FROM THIS BECOME SMARTER FROM IT
@@jacobleetaylor if you're not taking it seriously then you're not a real fan, mate. it's just that simple Now.. Your name i take it is JACOB, right so i said you were a fucking top bloke and i said JACUB IS A TOP BLOKE what would you think ? see mate, you either get it or you don't. if you get it YOU DON'T REPLY WITH A SMART ARSE COMMENT You say THANK YOU and admit your mistake and you change the error IT'S CALLED..........LEARNING FROM YOUR MISTAKES iti's literally a function of evolving as a person You ignore that function ok, Good luck in life see, there's no point having a go at me. You're going to get dumber.. I'm not but at the end of the day don't act like a fan if you don't take it seriously because METAL MATTERS BECAUSE WE TAKE IT SERIOUSLY that's why it has survived generations over other music You don't get that do you ? You think i'm just hating LOL.... NO MATE TRYING TO TEACH YOU SOMETHING but you're not hearing it
As a Drummer, Producer, Mixer and Mastering engineer. Bass in metal basically fills up the mid low to low frequency spectrum of a song, without which they would sound thin and tin-ny. Majority of the thickness and meat of the sound comes from bass, specially since in metal the kick drum really doesn't have too much bottom end to it like in dance and hip hop music. We add distortion on bass to cut through more and be more present so one can actual hear more of it and not just feel the bass
There’s also dudes like Lemmy, Geezer Butler, Les Claypool, Tim Commerford and John Myung, those bands would definitely be a lot different if you couldn’t hear their parts
There is a video of John the fisherman and Jerry was a race car driver without bass and even tho Larry and Tim are amazing, it’s just painful to listen to 😂
I think bass always adds so much to a bass. It’s always very noticeable when it’s missing. I always feel when my band’s bassist isn’t at practice, our song always sounds so empty
If you play bass you can definitely hear the bass, and Iron Maiden and Megadeth are indeed perfect examples. I definitely couldn't pull the bass part out of things until I'd played with other people live, and even more so recorded songs. Unfortunately if there's a shortcut I sure don't know it, I'd been playing seriously for a solid year before I could immediately identify and quickly play or write out what the bass was doing.
@@PiRXaThat's true these days. When l started in the early nineties, there were very few affordable resources for bass players (especially metal players!) to use. They had half-speed machines to learn guitar solos and some VHS lessons, but they were quite expensive to us high-school kids, even here in the US, l can only imagine how difficult it was for plyers around the world! I'm not trying to sound like an old fart telling people how easy it is today, l'm just glad there is internet, TH-cam online lessons etc. so people can start teaching themselves how to play. I give people free lessons when l can, have given away gear, books etc. over the years to younger/newer players. It's not about us, it's about being there to help and encourage the newer players of all ages and genres to learn and keep up the hard work when times are tough and life can be overwhelming, discouraging and it feels impossible to keep moving foreward.
I always remember growing up as a kid hearing Tool and just vibing from that bass. Was so different from a lot of the other songs I'd hear, so even if I had no clue what the song was, I always could tell it was Tool playing.
@@nightpilot154honestly I am not even sure. I think the clip is from something that isn’t Cannibal Corpse. Like a jam sesh with some other dudes or something.
Was about 2 say Death. The bass on Death was pretty bad ass, especially the latter albums, really technical and unconventional compared to stereotypical bass.
Beyond Creation Omnipresent Preception is an ode to Bass. Rivers of Nihil and Protest The Hero also got some good hearable bass and let us not forget Mudvayne
Many issues with modern metal bands are heavily distorted guitar AND bass. They tend to step on eachothers toes in the frequency range. The trick is to give the bass a very clean, crisp overdriven tone. Alex Webster is a great example.
That’s typically how it works. If you listen to bands like Black Sabbath, early Metallica and Motörhead you see bass taking lead or at least not just holding down the root but actually taking the reigns from the guitar.
Day 8 of asking for Paul McGuigan’s bass tone of Oasis NOTE: Don’t use Wonderwall as an example because the bassline was actually recorded by Noel Gallagher and not McGuigan. A couple great examples of his bass tone are from the songs Some Might Say and Morning Glory. Thanks!
@@lukecharles. Steve DiGiorgio, Sean Malone, John Myung, Lemmy, Billy Sheehan, Les Claypool, Geddy Lee, Alex Webster, Doug Keyser. And that’s just metal bassists, do I have to mention Jaco, John Entwistle, Victor Wooten, Stanley Clarke etc.?
For a music style that’s as focused on the attack, it’s necessary to have a sonic character in the bass that is both quick in its ability to be perceived and effective at being foundational enough both harmonically and melodically. If your bass sound is just trebly it has no weight to it, if it just sounds bassy it gets muddy very quickly. That lower mid range combined with a top end grind and a tight bass is what makes metal bass playing work!!
This is why I love knocked loose. Random breaks for bass solos. But you can hear it big time in maiden even without headphones. That bass riff is so iconic
People just assume that because they can't hear what is the bass it's not important. It is pretty hard to distinguish sometimes because many bands the bass is just simply beefing up the guitar riff and then it's very hard to hear what's what. One of my favorite bassists and band of all time is Geezer Butler from Black Sabbath, his bass playing is just something else. You can hear it pretty well once you learn what the guitar is doing. Then it's pretty obvious how much space the bass takes in their mixes! And it's awesome might I add!
The way that most modern metal producers approach bass is that it should complement the guitar in terms of EQ, since most bands have the bass playing basically what the guitar is playing. Most producers High Pass all the instruments at least past 80hz-100hz, taking out subs you don't wanna distort. In that sense a lot of producers will lower the bass frequency on the guitar track, allowing the distorted bass to take up that frequency. Doing this makes the bass and guitar sound almost like one solid sound. That's why when you take the bass outa a metal song it sounds super thin, because that lower distorted bass isn't there too support the guitar.
Naw I can usually single it out if I'm listening for it. One of the things I actually love about metal is how much the bass tone can vary from band to band, even with bands that have a similar sound -- a lot more than the guitars do sometimes.
Lars in a clearly photoshopped Megadeth shirt is a pretty good meme
Don’t forget him playing a bass
@@ryplay08 behs*
It’s not Photoshopped.
@CrassusCazius yes it is lol don't be gullible.
@@BeaverStateOWSspeaking of gullible…
Songs just sound so thin without bass. Even if you can’t pick it out in a mix, bass influences the feel of the song immensely.
plus unless the bass player is playing in unison, they are adding alot to the harmony
To be fair those songs were mixed with the bass in mind so of course removing the bass track will sound terrrible. Having little to no bass is great for when you want something real harsh and cold like black metal.
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@@Fireglo Even in Black Metal the Bass is pretty essential. Not in every band but check out anything Mayhem, Burzum, Imperium Dekadenz, Carparthian Forest etc. for those bands a lot of times the Bass plays melodic parts alongside the guitars. Fallen is a perfect example for a bm album with great bass lines
And watching it live makes you realize even more how much the bass is adding, since you feel it in your chest
Bass is like eyebrows. You never notice it until it's gone
Or until you hear any song with Les Claypool.
😅😅😅
Bass is also like salt in food.
Love this ❤
exactly, and a really good eyebrows isnt even noticeable, but it makes the whole face better
without bass, songs sound like they can blow away in the wind
This is SUCH A GOOD ANALOGY!!!
YES
Bass is the weight tied around the song's foot
Bass brings the meat to a sonic salad.
Bass is the glue that holds the drums and guitars together.
Betul banget
Isn't that just glue? 🤯
🤌
Bass is the power.
Yes, and the difference is more audible in live sessions/concerts. Without the bass you only have the discs of the drums and the guitar making noises
A lot of times the reason I hear people saying they can't hear bass in Metal, it's because the bass is often mistaken for part of the guitar line, but yes, bass is audible in Metal more often than it isn't. Hell, some bands like Weedeater and Saint Vitus actually have the bass up louder than the guitars.
Same with electric wizard, bass is loud as fuck, it's awesome.
Yeah doom/sludge/stoner is my main genre and the joke is that the guitar mimics the bass, not the bass mimics the guitar
Well, in Doom Metal bass and guitar tones are usually pretty distinct
That’s true, bass played through an overdrive pedal sounds a lot more like electric guitar than without it.
Couldn't agree more. People tend to mistake low end bass as part of guitar. It is not. On the other end of the spectrum, bands like Beyond Creation or Ne Obliviscaris incorporate bass with unique lines apart from guitar, and it's impossible to not hear it
Those old Maiden records are recorded and mixed so well . Greatest metal band ever .
Agree on the first disagree on the second. I prefer JP. And I do think it's a shame Steve now does all the producing and mixing, earlier albums sounded so much better. Like Seventh Son. That record is crystal clear. Anything past BNW has become more and more muddy. Matter of Life and Death really started that sound but the songs were good so it's not too big a problem but on the latest record if you compare Maiden and JP you can very clearly hear which albun was made by a producer. Great guitar player too, saw hin live. Unfortunately Glen couldn't play anymore but Richie is the show anyway. He's like Rhandy Rhoads and Zakk Wylde in one person. Steve has kinda gone the Yngwie way. Do everything yourself, murder anyone who questions anything etc... Yngwie doesn't even have a band. He hires touring musicians and that's it. Records he plays everything. If he still had a singer it could work but he's not a great singer for his music. And he is decent but his music just calls for that high pitched operatic tenor (not unlike Bruce). Göran Edman fit the band so well but of course Yngwie has to piss everyone off.
Not even close
@@HighTierGaming123🤓
The bass is the balls of the band
and the drums is when they kick you in the balls and they come out your nostrils
Bass and drums are the backbone of the song.
@@StepUpMedia039
i think he agree's but he was trying to say
was that at the tail end of the backbone is obviously.... THE BALLS
and the bass is the balls in that scenario
Exactly 🙏🏻
Well to be fair, and justice still sounded pretty good without bass
"Cannibal Corpse's Alex Webster".
He is playing a song from his band Conquering Dystopia here. Kufra at Dusk I believe.
Came here to say this. Insanely good instrumental album.
there is one metal band that always stands out in my mind for putting the bass more at the front and that is mudvayne. The bass in Death blooms is great.
Tool features the bass more than the guitar. Adam just chilling and riffing in Drop D where Justin is taking over the groove.
Black Sabbath had a good clear bass tone a lot of the time
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Jinjer does put the bass in good spot and he also play a big part of the melody most of the songs
There's a lot of alternative metal bands (funk metal, nü metal, and so) where bass has a lot more presence or a different role in comparison to what's usually seen in other metal subgenres. Comes to mind the case of Korn where Fieldy (the bassist) uses the bass as if it was a percussion instrument.
Thats insane that difference
It wouldn't sound that bad if it was actually mixed without bass. Of course simply removing a bass track from a song that was mixed with bass would sound bad. Listen to some early black metal.
@@Fireglo I don't even think they removed the bass track but just eq'd it out, removing also the bass frequencies of the guitars. So all it shows is that you need bass frequencies to sound good, but not that you need the actual bass, let alone if it "gets lost in the mix".
@@emulgatorx pretty sure they just removed the bass track
@@emulgatorxEs fácil de averiguar, solo escucha las canciones...
rex was doing a lot for pantera for sure. he‘s standing out a lot in the mix, especially on „i‘m broken“
Honestly, the first part of the bass I hear in most metal/deathcore songs isn't the rumbling 80-140hz low end; it's that distinctive clankiness that hovers somewhere around the mid range. It adds a lot of character to songs overall. (Especially breakdowns) Hell, I'm a guitar player, mostly, but there's just something absolutely infectious about funky basslines. As much as I love soaring shrieking guitars; bass is like aural therapy. I don't want to imagine a world without it.
people often don't realise how much it adds
For that question, Mr. Kilmister gives answers from heaven.
The bass on "...And Justice for All,, is really stand out in my opinion. 😂😂
I think they just had the bass track "stand out" of the mixing room entirely. Oof
Thats probably why its "justice for all"
Should do to Lars drum tracks what he does to the Bass - just turn him all the way down until you can just BARELY hear him.
The album still sounds brilliant though tbh
Well to be fair, most of Jason bass lines that were downed to 0, dont had much to the songs. He was following James parts.
Tool brings bass to a whole new level. Bass is critical part of their rhythm.
listening to iron maiden without bass is like taking a shit directly in the sewers
Its not music without bass, its just guitar riffs.🍻
I've been training my ears to pick out the bass lines in songs cause Iwant to learn someday, and once you get used to it, you can't unhear it
I spend my days listening to Lamb of God trying to pick out the bass lines
You want to learn someday? Start tomorrow ffs.
@@mrc25381 I would if I had a bass/the money to buy one. I'm also putting off getting one until I move out of my parents' because I live in a shoe box and I don't need to add an amp to the list of things that I trip over on a daily basis.
@@mrc25381It takes money, and not everyone lives where they can get an affordable instrument and gear. Bass gear is expensive compared to guitar, and l live in the US and can get (and own) plenty of inexpensive guitars, effects and amps that can be heard over drums and vocals, but bass requires much more than $100 USD to work for a beginner.
You can hear Lemmy Kilmister's bass
The band Crowbar has some incredible bass in their songs
Gaybar is one of the bands
Sludge bands got killer bass
“Lifesblood For The Downtrodden” has the best bass sound/performance of Crowbar’s catalog. Wouldn’t expect anything else with Rex Brown playing on it - his tone is MONSTROUS
Dropping the bass is a good effect with in a song but never a permanent choice
Alex Webster's technique is absolutely insane
U feel the bass more than u hear it.
one sub-genre where bass can be well heard while also can shine a lot is technical death metal. Obscura and Beyond Creation comes to mind
Makes the most sense since you want to hear every instrument cutting through
Archspire is also really good at showcasing the bass parts
He'll, yeah. Obituary's bass is monstrous.
Dave fucking Ellifson 🤘🏻
Now... if you love him
SPELL IT CORRECTLY out of respect
Dave Fucking ELLEFSON
There has always been a rule in metal
If you love the band or the guy
if you put the word FUCKING in front of the name to show your level of love
then raise the horns \m/
YOU BETTER !!! GET THE FUCKING NAME RIGHT
In my day, for this.... You were bashed.
Consider yourself fortunate that you are merely corrected
and that's not a joke.
if we got that wrong, a Megadeth fan would bash you
thats' why WE CHECKED THINGS BEFORE WE SAID OR WROTE THEM DOWN
something that people no longer give a fuck to do
LEARN FROM THIS
BECOME SMARTER FROM IT
Shout out too the guy taking it way to serious 😂
@@jacobleetaylor
if you're not taking it seriously
then you're not a real fan, mate.
it's just that simple
Now.. Your name i take it is JACOB, right
so i said you were a fucking top bloke
and i said
JACUB IS A TOP BLOKE
what would you think ?
see mate, you either get it or you don't.
if you get it
YOU DON'T REPLY WITH A SMART ARSE COMMENT
You say
THANK YOU
and admit your mistake
and you change the error
IT'S CALLED..........LEARNING FROM YOUR MISTAKES
iti's literally a function of evolving as a person
You ignore that function
ok, Good luck in life
see, there's no point having a go at me.
You're going to get dumber.. I'm not
but at the end of the day
don't act like a fan if you don't take it seriously
because METAL MATTERS BECAUSE WE TAKE IT SERIOUSLY
that's why it has survived generations over other music
You don't get that do you ?
You think i'm just hating
LOL.... NO MATE
TRYING TO TEACH YOU SOMETHING
but you're not hearing it
@@jacobleetaylor mustaine's kindred spirit. Perpetually angry 😂
@@ΑναστάσιοςΠαπαζαχαρίου 😂 my guy 🤘🏻
As a Drummer, Producer, Mixer and Mastering engineer. Bass in metal basically fills up the mid low to low frequency spectrum of a song, without which they would sound thin and tin-ny. Majority of the thickness and meat of the sound comes from bass, specially since in metal the kick drum really doesn't have too much bottom end to it like in dance and hip hop music. We add distortion on bass to cut through more and be more present so one can actual hear more of it and not just feel the bass
You said the problem is not hearing the bass with low-tuned guitars, then played several examples in standard E tuning lol
Bass is the balls of the song. Why would anyone want to cut it out?
There’s also dudes like Lemmy, Geezer Butler, Les Claypool, Tim Commerford and John Myung, those bands would definitely be a lot different if you couldn’t hear their parts
There is a video of John the fisherman and Jerry was a race car driver without bass and even tho Larry and Tim are amazing, it’s just painful to listen to 😂
Claypool is always painful to listen to! 😂
The answer is : YES
Long live Chris Squire
I think bass always adds so much to a bass. It’s always very noticeable when it’s missing. I always feel when my band’s bassist isn’t at practice, our song always sounds so empty
that part that Alex plays is so good!
It’s not hard to notice when the bass isn’t playing, it’s literally the meat in the song.
Only meat is literally meat
If you play bass you can definitely hear the bass, and Iron Maiden and Megadeth are indeed perfect examples. I definitely couldn't pull the bass part out of things until I'd played with other people live, and even more so recorded songs. Unfortunately if there's a shortcut I sure don't know it, I'd been playing seriously for a solid year before I could immediately identify and quickly play or write out what the bass was doing.
There is (kind of) shortcut. Listen to a lot of (isolated) bass lines. It's a matter of training your brain to recognize it :)
@@PiRXaThat's true these days. When l started in the early nineties, there were very few affordable resources for bass players (especially metal players!) to use. They had half-speed machines to learn guitar solos and some VHS lessons, but they were quite expensive to us high-school kids, even here in the US, l can only imagine how difficult it was for plyers around the world!
I'm not trying to sound like an old fart telling people how easy it is today, l'm just glad there is internet, TH-cam online lessons etc. so people can start teaching themselves how to play.
I give people free lessons when l can, have given away gear, books etc. over the years to younger/newer players. It's not about us, it's about being there to help and encourage the newer players of all ages and genres to learn and keep up the hard work when times are tough and life can be overwhelming, discouraging and it feels impossible to keep moving foreward.
I always remember growing up as a kid hearing Tool and just vibing from that bass. Was so different from a lot of the other songs I'd hear, so even if I had no clue what the song was, I always could tell it was Tool playing.
Veil of Maya is a perfect example of a band that the bassist really shines through!
Alex Webster is a fantastic musician.
meshuggah and archspire and periphery have a shit ton of nasty crispy bass in the mix
"with all the low tuned guitars" *proceeds to play 1 song thats tuned low* yeah all those examples are amazing examples of bass with low tunings
Iron Maiden is driven by the bass and is the best part !!
Meanwhile Motörhead without the bass: "Why did the rhytm guitar stop?!"
Bass is like a football team's goalkeeper. You will surely notice when it's gone.
Excellent shout out to Webster. Dude is a MACHINE
Agreed! I’ve been listening to Cannibal Corpse since I was in high school! Which song was featured in this video? I don’t seem to recognize it!
@@nightpilot154honestly I am not even sure. I think the clip is from something that isn’t Cannibal Corpse. Like a jam sesh with some other dudes or something.
@@DEATHMETALRUST I actually found the video! It’s Alex Webster doing a cover of Kufra at Dusk by Conquering Dystopia!
@nightpilot154 Was just going to say, might be his other band.
Death is another one with really good bass, and Gorguts!
Was about 2 say Death. The bass on Death was pretty bad ass, especially the latter albums, really technical and unconventional compared to stereotypical bass.
Steve freakin DiGiorgio!!!!
Beyond Creation Omnipresent Preception is an ode to Bass. Rivers of Nihil and Protest The Hero also got some good hearable bass and let us not forget Mudvayne
Many issues with modern metal bands are heavily distorted guitar AND bass. They tend to step on eachothers toes in the frequency range.
The trick is to give the bass a very clean, crisp overdriven tone.
Alex Webster is a great example.
Pantera is one of my favourite examples of what metal bass is
Most of the examples had a lot of bass present in the mix
I think in alot of genres to bass guitar, and standard guitar kinda meld together into one sound, because they use similar timbres and tones.
That’s typically how it works. If you listen to bands like Black Sabbath, early Metallica and Motörhead you see bass taking lead or at least not just holding down the root but actually taking the reigns from the guitar.
Yes, this count for all the bass-types
That's why l like to use effects. Use a bit of flanging, phasing, chorus etc to stick out when the guitars drown you out.
Day 8 of asking for Paul McGuigan’s bass tone of Oasis
NOTE: Don’t use Wonderwall as an example because the bassline was actually recorded by Noel Gallagher and not McGuigan. A couple great examples of his bass tone are from the songs Some Might Say and Morning Glory.
Thanks!
Bruh they probably used the exact same bass and setup.
You can always hear the magnificence of Steve Harris’ playing in any Maiden tune.
I feel like Testament's bass is pretty audible (which I absolutely love I thunk every band should do that because bass is on top)
The best bassists are the ones you can’t hear until their gone. That means they complement the music perfectly.
Steve Harris says you are talking rubbish
Steve Harris is an exception 😂
@@lukecharles. Steve DiGiorgio, Sean Malone, John Myung, Lemmy, Billy Sheehan, Les Claypool, Geddy Lee, Alex Webster, Doug Keyser. And that’s just metal bassists, do I have to mention Jaco, John Entwistle, Victor Wooten, Stanley Clarke etc.?
I really dig Geezer Butler's bass playing.
Geezer's the OG. Imagine N.I.B. with no bass!
Geezer's tone on 13 is GIGANTIC, regardless of what one thinks about that record.
you dont have to hear bass..you have to feel it
Yeah absolutely! Their wavelength is supposed to penetrate wall and human skins
... but not enough to penetrate melodics part apparently...
@@srrrb5953 lol
For a music style that’s as focused on the attack, it’s necessary to have a sonic character in the bass that is both quick in its ability to be perceived and effective at being foundational enough both harmonically and melodically. If your bass sound is just trebly it has no weight to it, if it just sounds bassy it gets muddy very quickly. That lower mid range combined with a top end grind and a tight bass is what makes metal bass playing work!!
Bass is much more prominent in live shows. It’s turned down in studios or you wouldn’t be able to hear much else in the recording
Archspire has amazing such an bassist.
The drums feel naked without the bass
This is why I love knocked loose. Random breaks for bass solos. But you can hear it big time in maiden even without headphones. That bass riff is so iconic
If mixed correctly, you can absolutely hear it
It's imperative for all music to have bass. I'm a drummer, and I'm into bass more than ever
I love all of your Bass videos I've learned a thing or two playing with Rocksmith and finding some of the things you talk about
The Trooper with no bass is something my ears did not need to hear...
I have a 19" subwoofer with a 1200 watt amp in my trunk.
It makes my whole car vibrate. I really like it.
Bass is essential. Even if u can’t pick it out of the mix, take it away and you’ll hear a world of difference, trust me.
I think it comes down to people who like metal but aren't musicians or really music people. There's a lot more of them than there are of us.
If you can't hear the bass in most metal songs, you're just tone deaf.
Steve Harris is a legend, and his bass fills are incredible.
You can't "hear it" but you feel it 😂
Children of Bodom doesn't get enough credit for how thick the bass sound is in their records.
Bass is the most important instrument tbh
"Put on your headphones because you might not be able to hear the difference"
Awesome! You should've included a sample where you cannot really hear the bass in the mix, but still miss when it is removed
People just assume that because they can't hear what is the bass it's not important. It is pretty hard to distinguish sometimes because many bands the bass is just simply beefing up the guitar riff and then it's very hard to hear what's what. One of my favorite bassists and band of all time is Geezer Butler from Black Sabbath, his bass playing is just something else. You can hear it pretty well once you learn what the guitar is doing. Then it's pretty obvious how much space the bass takes in their mixes! And it's awesome might I add!
I wish there were more bands like Korn who utilized the bass so well especially early on in their career
The interesting thing is I could hear the bass clearly in all the examples you chose
I once heard that bass is like air, you don’t really notice it, but you’re going to when it’s gone
Most often the secret to a great guitar tone is a great bass tone.
Maidens rhythm section is legendary
Bass is underrated and is actually incredibly important ,a good bass player can make a crappy band sound good
FYI, headphones were not required.
Fieldy always stands out his playing is so unique you can always pick it out
For sounding like an old clanky tool box...
@mr_ozzio5095 as much as I love his playing style your so accurate on that lolol
Love this! 🙌🏼❤️
That's because you're going to hear it more live.
The way that most modern metal producers approach bass is that it should complement the guitar in terms of EQ, since most bands have the bass playing basically what the guitar is playing. Most producers High Pass all the instruments at least past 80hz-100hz, taking out subs you don't wanna distort. In that sense a lot of producers will lower the bass frequency on the guitar track, allowing the distorted bass to take up that frequency. Doing this makes the bass and guitar sound almost like one solid sound. That's why when you take the bass outa a metal song it sounds super thin, because that lower distorted bass isn't there too support the guitar.
If you can’t hear the bass .. you can feel it …
Naw I can usually single it out if I'm listening for it.
One of the things I actually love about metal is how much the bass tone can vary from band to band, even with bands that have a similar sound -- a lot more than the guitars do sometimes.
Lars - And justice for all 😂😂😂
Best metal bassist is Ryan Martinie of Mudvayne. The bass makes that band iconic and you can always hear it.
Steve Harris, Geddy Lee and Geezer Butler. Bass Gods.
Job for a cowboy would be a good example where the bass is extremely prominent
Mudvayne is the perfect example of a bassist shining.
Sabbath is bass heavy and Geezer is a beast! Perfect companion to the god of riffs.
I'm watching this video at 1% volume and I can still hear the bass
listening to a KoRn song without the bass is like playing a guitar with no strings
The bass made the signature sound of Autopsy
I literally make my bassist blast his bass. It's very important to hear it.
First song barely changed without the bass, but the Maiden was like they were playing through a can, when that bass left the mix.