How WALL-E Made Me a Leftist
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In a confusing era of crises of masculinity, debates, and communism, Disney Pixar's WALL-E might bring forward another question--the question of the human. In this NOT video essay, that is NOT a film analysis, we'll learn a bit more... - บันเทิง
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“You think everything’s a gay metaphor.”
“Yes, but not a *great* gay metaphor.”
This kid gets it.
Why no replies, but nearly three-thousand likes? How?? I can't be the first.
@@quinsutton7097 there's nothing to add...
I do want to take time to point out that Eve and WALL·E, while being specifically coded as straight cisgender, are also a couple that defies multiple gender norms. Eve is work oriented, aggressive, and trigger happy, while WALL·E is her caretaker for a lot of the movie where she’s inactive.
Who cares.
@@yehooyahoo6861 I Care
@@yehooyahoo6861 It kinda looks like you do… why else would you take the time to respond when you could be investing that time elsewhere.
@@yehooyahoo6861 Ah, yes. I've seen you trolling on multiple videos tonight. I hope you are able to resolve whatever emotion is driving you to attempt to improve your life by shitting upon randos. Have a good night.
@@yehooyahoo6861I also care
Wall-E was actually the movie that taught me how institutions can create evil without any individual bad actors as a kid.
I think evil is derived from human action so I'd think a scenario like WALL-E is best described as a tragedy.
I could listen to Alex argue with Alex and Alex under supervision of Alex all day
I mean, mostly same here, but I feel like Alex's writing of Alex kind of sold Alex short, not to mention Alex. Also, Alex let Alex's perspective and Alex's response undermine Alex's points.
I hope to see them all again in the future
Alex’s Aspects…….
@@peachymunmagenta wait like sanders sides?
I'd agree but this is actually a very good approximation of my internal dialogue already. I enjoy seeing that other people also experience this though
It's all about us projecting onto a cute asexual agender couple.
Yes‼️ Thank you‼️ at least someone in the world has enough sense
Hell yea
omg
They are robots, they have no gender or sex.
@@AraneaTempestatibus thats literally what agender and asexual means
“Kid’s movies can be profound too. The Barbie movies are a great example of how to execute a perfect gay metaphor.”
“You think everything is a gay metaphor.”
“But not everything’s a *great* gay metaphor.”
Less than two minutes in and I’m already pressing my face to the screen screaming “THEYRE JUST LIKE ME!! THEYRE JUST LIKE ME FR”
Saame!!!!
While I always read wall.e and eve as male-ish and female-ish I never saw their love as ‘straight’ it always just felt like robot-love completely devoid of human labels, not inferior just untouched by concepts of human sexuality labels
Rule 34 disagree with you
@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 rule 34 should never be a serious case in any argument
@@alejandropetit6573 This why its used as a joke,
@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 ye
while yes, their love is mostly -ish, Wall.e is shown to be "human" because he learned our hyper heterosexual patriarchal ways of love in old media, wich in turn when he sees eve he atributes her to be his romantic partner, and by the end of the movie he kind of made her turn to his culture, wich is the patriarchal way we as a society are trying to deconstruct for almost a century, only for non male nor female robots to have little robot kids where they will enforce the gender conformity they didn't have to abide to. I forgot my good point I tried to make
"and they had to be put on this floating cruise ship in this faux capitalist-"
_"oh, the c word!"_
"SHH."
got me so so good 💀
This made the academic and emotional sides of my brain KISS when previously they were barely on speaking terms.
why do i know exactly what you mean by that? 🤣
wonderfully phrased xD
Loved the video, my inner queer also changes earings every 50 seconds
omg i didnt even notice that detail
As a cis woman i'm not entirely sure what people mean when they say "gender envy" but i think GenderConstructionist!Alex is giving me it
That’s how it starts
Is there a name or use for that formatting of "Descriptor"!"Name" because I've only ever seen it in reference to The Magnus Archives (the Not!Them and Distortion!Micheal)(also excellent gay series)
@@eveoftheroses3766 it's mostly fandom terminology to refer to a specific version of a character (that's a broad way to put it, but yeah). look up "exclamation mark fandom".
The way I understand gender envy is that you see anything (it could be a person with a certain style or aesthetic, a photograph of scenery, maybe even an animal or object) which resonates with you. You may want your gender presentation to give off the vibes of this thing or maybe you want other people to perceive your gender as this thing.
I'm genderfluid. An example from my personal life is an image I found on Pinterest of an ornate, gothic style wine glass that I feel gender envy for when I'm feeling more neutral. I like it because I want people to perceive me the way I perceive that glass; unconnected to a gender identity but edgy and gorgeous just the same.
Perhaps you feel the ways I've described for GenderConstructionist!Alex. This doesn't have to mean that you are trans or nonbinary, but it could if that is something you want to explore for yourself (don't feel pressured if you're happy where you are though). I don't know your brain, I can only draw on my own experiences. I hope this helped you :)
When you really love someone's aesthetic and sometimes even want to look like them.
Go for it, experiment with your appearance if you want 😄👍
I have never been able to decide if WALL-E and EVE are a trash lesbian and Apple lesbian, or a trash lesbian and femboy.
On one hand we have GAY and on the other we have gendernonconforming femboy.
Wall-E and EVE are a straight trans 4 trans couple. Call that wall-T
@@cactus2260 That's also a good one!
transmasc femboy x transbian tomboy is my favorite relationship dynamic!
Robots, despite being made of 1s and 0s (aka binary coding), are only as gendered as we view them, so technically nonbinary to the fullest extend.
They're binary as fvck, they're both a bunch of 1's and 0's
Wall-e came out in 2008, I was seven or eight. It was probably my biggest hyperfixation. I re-drew the entire movie, scene for scene, sometimes shot for shot in my tiny notebook, and drew portraits of all my favorite characters. I spent hours playing games, both digital and imagined by me and my sisters, relating to the movie. And, even at such an age my fascination with long-suffered, repressed gay men was already alive in my obsessive crushes on Mo, that cleaning robot, and Burn-e from the short on the dvd.
I think I related a lot to Wall-e. The raw curiosity, and admiration of objects that others would overlook, his messy living space and hoarding tendencies. How invisible he was, small and underfoot. How he mucked around in soil and sand, his gentleness. His self-sacrifice.
I would even try and imitate the eye thing that he does, by articulating my eyebrows in that distinctive rhythm. I loved him and tried to emulate him. I felt a deep connection, like the character was made for me or something.
I was probably just before the age I became acutely aware of the feminine gender role I would be expected to inhabit. Wall-e was a robot, just a little creachure if you will, and my enby transmasc self felt very seen. Wall-e was a masculine icon for me as well.
This wasn't particularly relevant to the video, but the movie was such a big part of my childhood, I guess I just wanted to talk about it. It's kind of strange to think about now, I rarely think of it, yet probably carry it with me in a lot of ways I don't realize or understand. Rewatching the movie as an adult, the muddled messages and sour under- and overtones in the movie stand out sorely, fading the parts of the movie I was drawn to as a child.
such a great movie- I feel ya!
"Enby transmatic" I mostly understood the last part but what the hell is "enby" it doesn't have any vowels and I've never heard of it before.
@@priestofronaldalt "Enbie" is shorthand for non-binary, "transmac" is shorthand for transition to masculinity, aka ftm.
@@priestofronaldaltenby is how people pronounce NB, so enby has become a shortened word for non-binary :)
@@priestofronaldalt E is a vowel.
A part of me really wants to see you have an intense conversation with Abigail Thorn about philosophy, society, gender, economics, film, art...just a collaboration between you two would be so fun and stimulating to watch!
I know she's hella busy but it would be AMAZING
Jessie Earl collab might be cool too
Kind of in awe of how this video is a wonderful merger of academic theory and pop culture that uses each of its pieces and framing to analyze the perspectives and shortcomings of the others. Such an engaging way to communicate theory to an audience and to actually see it applied outside of purely academic contexts. Kudos to you on finding that balance here with theory, comedy, and sincerity leading to a really entertaining video.
The level of research and scripting that Alex puts in every video is unparalleled ❤
"Yeah dude, but how that's gonna help the working class ? Or the gays ?"
-me @ politics
I think this is such an interesting concept, setting it up as an actual debate forces me to pay attention lmao
But Wall-E isn't *about* romantic love and gender. It's more about love in general and rediscovering the beauty of the world around us. Wall-E and Eve's genders aren't mentioned and don't play a part in the story. Since their genders aren't confirmed (in the original source material, being the movie.) , interpretations of their genders rely on individuals and their culture. (Which is why some people see them as lesbians, nonbinary, straight and more. Their identities are basically up to anyone's interpretation.)
In addition, the story wouldn't have been told differently if Wall-E and Eve were explicitly coded to be in a queer relationship. They are just two beings in love. Their genders never played a role in whether or not they fell in love. They are simply two people who care about each other.
Furthermore, their romantic love isn't what saved the world, but instead it is their mutual care for the planet and each other
Romantic love didn't save the day. Love in general did.
Yes, the development of their relationship plays a big part in the story. We can even say that their love for one another "saved the day".
But to that, I must clarify:
Two people caring for eachother isn't necessarily romantic.
As someone who is Aromantic and despises 98% of romance depictions, I think that the movie Wall-E shares a beautiful story of love, in all its forms.
Love of life, love of nature, love of knowledge and love of everything in the world around us and beyond.
It is a story about the importance of caring for what we love.
Discovering life and appreciating it.
And on a side note, Wall-E and Eve's relationship isn't necessarily romantic. Friends are allowed to care about eachother, lol. But anyways, I think that this part is more up to interpretation. I personally just love their relationship for what it is, I don't really care whether or not they're dating or what their genders might or might not be. The story has a beautiful message and yet so little dialogue. And I think that's rad af
In conclusion, I think it's a story of appreciating eachother and the world. Not about how heterosexual dating saved the world, lol.
Except heterosexual dating DID save the world in fact, heterosexual dating made the world and continues to upkeep it. Checkmate, liberals.😎🗿🫡😉🤣😂🫠🙃🙂🤭😏😈
You are so right tbh thank you
Great points, but there's a very clear spark thingy that happens that is supposed to be a kiss so that's the only thing I'd add. You're right on it being about love about everything, but as well you can add romantic love as a smaller category :]
i really like your way of thinking honestly
Wall e and Eve have genders though. They shouldn't since, ya know, they're robots. But they do cause the writers said so 🥴
Unrelated Topic:
Has anyone ever noticed how unrepresented gay males are in cartoons? I mean yes, they are represented but not on the same amount of WLW where they get to be main characters. Gay males are always the uncles, dads, or side friends. Do you think it is related to how MLM has always been sexualized by the public. Even in BL series, the only moment gays get the spotlight, they are still fetishized by people. It sucks that despite having She-Ra, Steven Universe, The Owl House, Adventure Time, etc., we don't have much to let kids know boys can like boys, that they can be effeminate and not be less of a person.
My 7 year old self would have had a different childhood if I saw that on TV be normal. Idk, I just feel hurt how us gays are always connected to lustful thoughts.
This^^^
i recommend craig of the creek
@@edwardlegend1564 are you referring to Raj and Shawn? Cause they don't seem like part of the main characters. Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts is the only cartoon where one of the main characters, Benson, is gay and has a male love interest. What I love about him is he's not just a token character, he's part of the actual plot (he's only absent in 1 episode of the whole show).
I think it might be due to us no longer living in the 60's. Womanhood is no longer tied to femininity, though masculinity and manhood are still one and the same. So that tied to the male gaze that sees lesbianism as exciting and male homosexuality as a threat all plays into it. Maybe even the idea of turning someone straight, "you just haven't found the right guy" while the opposite rarely happens, as women are expected to preform a more submissive, passive role. All making it slightly more likely that a lesbian story gets greenlit than a gay one.
Though part of it is probably the focus on female protagonists to make up for the decades where they were barely represented, skewing the results.
i think we also can notice that a lot of wlw in cartoons are made by wlw people fighting for this representation
i agree that there should be more wholesome unsexualized mlm but maybe we should ask why there arent more mlm cartoon producers? maybe theres something fundamentally stopping them from such position? idk
i always click on one of your videos thinking "this is gonna be alright" and then i end up shaking in my lgbtq+ boots
this video was so well executed and I loved how all the "Alexs" acted, I enjoyed this so much!! You did a fantastic job!! Have a wonderful day!!
I was always into Wall•E for the aesthetics. When I was younger, it felt like a silent film without the silence because Wall-E didn't *talk* and that made me happy. It was quiet. And at the time my life was anything but (standard POC familial issues ya dig?). Anyway, all that unrelated junk just to say that this new Sanders Sides episode looks great!
‘Love is a universal human experience’
As an aromatic, you sure about that?
(Not just in reference to romantic love either, there’s a decent amount of people that have separated themselves from the concept of love entirely, for a lot of different reasons. This isn’t separating from caring about people, either, and even if it was, that’s not an issue really, I could talk for hours abt how empathy or the lack of is fundamentally neutral, like the ableist roots of the idea. TLDR: loveless aros are pretty cool, actually)
Yeah that’s called sociopathy babies.
Love (not romantic, I mean in general) is a universal human experience though, because it is an innate human need. It's one of the few things that separates us from other animals, our need and desire for human connection and the way our hormones and emotions respond to and attach to one another. If someone is incapable of feeling any love at all (again, not referring to romantic exclusively) then that is typically assessed as a mental illness, like sociopathy as the other commenter said. A person cannot be healthy or emotionally well-rounded if they live isolation, whether that isolation be literal, perceived, or self-inflicted. Lack of empathy is *not* neutral, it's inhuman and a net negative for society.
Does it matter whether “love” separates us from other animals or not?
I don't think I realized until the moment this hit my feed just how much this film capital A Affected me as a kid. And I'm not sure how much of it I could put into words tbh. My distaste towards AI, me being a queer communist, and the unending desire to be able to easily replace parts of the body when they stop working via advances in scientific and medical technologies (think 3D printed organs and NAD+ injections), it literally all stemmed from here. I was definitely obsessed with the movie as a kid but I never thought about just how much it informed my whole way of thinking.
Same but for me it was Blue Sky's Robots movie
Who else noticed the earring changes? Love the attention to detail in both theory AND production. Keep it up, Alexander!
alex is rocking those earrings 👏👏
I like how you approached this like a classroom
While this video could have been disjointed with so many conflicting viewpoints in a more traditional video essay setting; it came across clearly through the four characters and their constructive criticism of each other's viewpoints.
Well done!!
My favorite scene in Wall-E is when he teaches the button pushing robot to wave, and then later we see that it incorporated its newly learned ability to bend at the wrist into being a better button pusher and excitedly waves at anyone who passes by. I can’t read that scene as anything but an intensely Marxist allegory
It’s a video that’s not an hour long, that’s impossible
I love this. You're so clever and your humor really keeps my interest
i haven’t even watched this show for 1 minute and the phrase “wall-e is a twink” gave me whiplash. 10/10 video i’m calling him a twink from now on 🥰
thank you for this video, there is also a marxist, a gender studies person and a postmodern lil guy inside my mind, and i feel deeply represented in this. Wall-e is also my favorite movie of all time (mostly in an emotional way), is this silly little story of hope that as a kid i really liked how they were able to give so much emotion and bring such good change in the world only by saying wall-e and eva and not one more word besides that. It's a strong story that shows that love and empathy, what ever those really are, are things that should exist and that are good, and that can exist besides the most dire situations, even if we are not "human anymore". Also thinking more about it now, as someone that deals with depression, avoidance of responsabilities, and overall just lazyness, seeing that ship filled with comforted people bounded to at somepoint die from the fact that they dont do anything to change their own situation, and change being able to happen in the context means alot to me.
.... Did anyone else get an ad for omegaverse audiobooks during this, or is my metadata cursed?
3:59 Loveless Aro sounds
i spent ALL NIGHT binging all of alex's old videos, it really brightened my (very sleep deprived) day when i saw he posted a couple hours later lmao
your content is always really well worded and executed, and also really freaking funny. another banger
I now know I am bisexual but back when I first watched the movie I was under the firm belief that I was a heterosexual girl. Seeing this type of non-stereotypically gendered version of hetero romance was the first time I felt connected to any depiction of love in media. Seeing this made me believe that I could find love too, before that I always felt alienated by how love was "supposed to be". Ofc nowadays it sucks for me that all big relationships in mainstream media are heteronormative, but back then this little movie made me tear up from joy
As a kid I could never put my finger on why I liked wall-e and Eve so much but looking back I'm sure this was the reason why lol
FORREAL!! I genuinely just realized I like romcoms, I really connect to the 2020s (mostly queer) romcoms.
I didn't realize the reason I find 2000s romcom unappealing was bcs the gender norms and identity shown in them weren't relatable to me or my view on romantic relationships, and were often mysogynistic.
It makes me sad these kind of videos don't get as many views. Just know Alex that we really enjoy them!
10:50 cake jumpscare
i absolutely love the inner monologue/debate format. its so perfect and relatable
As an aromantic person, I have some thoughts about love being described as a "universal human experience" in and of itself, but this was a great video nonetheless.
I'd say that love is a universal human experience but that romantic love specifically isn't
However, we as a society act like romantic love is the only important one
And that is a problem 😔
love comes in all shapes, sizes and forms darling, self love being one of them!
Love is far from just being romance
Hey everyone: Loveless people exist. And Aplatonic people exist too. And sadly so do people who feel self-loathing. (There's also Lovepunk. Lovequeer. I mean, I could keep going-)
Even putting that aside, Alex was clearly referring to Romo love in this particular instance anyway, so… yeah, not a valid point to dig up here.
Saying “Love is more than Romantic Love y'know” _when romantic love is explicitly clarified as the only type of love being discussed and thus interpreted as a universal experience_ is not the kind of gotcha that you think it is. It's really not.
(Sorry if this comes off as confrontational, I'm just so darned tired of the continued misuse of that already overused argument. _I_ know what I meant. _You_ know what I meant. Please have the decency to stop pretending that you don't.)
@@whilenya4714 what
I'm madly in love with a girl and I have a "crush?" on a guy and I cannot tell anyone cause they're my only friends lmao so I just thought I'd just share it here
Edit: and wall-e and Eva were definitely a golden-retriever-and-a-hot-dom-fem lesbian couple, no doubt about that
Hope that situation goes well for you
i couldn’t agree more with the second statement
also, I loved how the middle Alex changed their earrings every scene lol
If we use tropes ironically, is it subversion or just laziness?
"WALL-E's the first character that made me feel connected to masculinity" that hits different now
Social construct =/= worthless
Truth isn't the only thing that matters in the universe, beauty too is of value.
The reason why people automatically assume wall-e and eve are seen as man and woman respectively is just basic shape language. The reason people see these robots in these ways is because the animators animated them specifically like that. So 🤷
My thoughts exactly. Eve is more "curved" to use a word befitting of a discussion like this. Eve is more graceful, clean, has more traditionally feminine eyes, makes use of white and blue in they're color scheme which are colors associated with cleanliness in Western culture. All things associated with femininity in Westen culture. I could go on but I already made my point.
WALL-E on the other hand, is more squared, a shape typically considered considered somewhat aggressive, and aggression is a typically masculine trait. He's dirty, brown, his work causes him to fall apart physically, all things associated with male dominated, physically intensive industries. He approaches new, possibly dangerous situations with enthusiasm and curiosity while Eve approaches similar situations with great caution, a typically feminine trait in Western culture.
Visual storytelling is an extremely underappreciated form of storytelling.
Isn’t that more or less what they’re talking about?
Alex I love this video, but its insane to me that the Patreon section is 7 minutes long (not that its bad, but wow, just never realised it was that long)
it's the constant earrings change for me
chalk it up to the innate bisexual urge to change earrings every thirty seconds
Me, clicking on the video: sweet, more Alex
The video: SO MUCH MORE ALEX
I think along with the research, writing and characters (can't get over GenderConstruct!Alex's earrings game), I'm impressed you got all this across, so much information and different points of view, in just about ten minutes. Very well done and thanks for the laughs
At some point I just think there is no "capital M meaning" in a mainstream media product under capitalism. Its a fools errand. It goes only so far as its allowed to. We should appreciate that, take it for what its worth, and look to other things for real substance.
pssst what you want is called 'critical discourse analysis'
Even if the capitalist system making the media is not intending a meaning, people will still take away meaning from it. I think media analysis that studies accidental meaning is just as valuable as that studying intended, if not more, because accidental themes more often than not are the values that are intrinsic to a society, that work their way into every aspect of that society
So the non-mainstream media products that have "real substance" are created under not-capitalism? Thats a good trick
@@mollymontgomery4565 bugs life and robots are a good example of this. also shrek
That was great man! I was really confused by the title at first 😂
I've never had a video so prefectly capture what goes through my head every time a thought forms
THE PRODUCTION QUALITY! It's amazing to see your channel grow, you deserve all the success your vids are amazing!!
Just now realizing that I definitely got gender envy from Wall-E (the character) as a small child, but didn't actually recognize it at the time because I didn't know what trans people were yet or that I was one.
Alex is such fun and I’m here for the new video! Legends know the first look from Twitter.
Really nice video. I think you really encapsulated what it’s like to have conflicting feelings and ideas over the same subject, even if it’s something like the movie Wall-e. When it the video first started, I wondered if the characters would argue the whole time for strictly comedic value, but the heartfelt consensus they reached solidified something hopeful. Very nice! I really liked this skit.
Ultimately, I always hope to care about other people. :)
I swear I love every video you make no matter what it is 😂
why am i watching a radio lab spoof abt the queerness of fictional robots?? oscar worthy.
Oh this was amazing!!!
This was awesome! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in such an engaging way. I really appreciate and admire the work you do :-)
Well this was incredible, and also made me cry. Thanks. I didn't know I could feel this way from a slightly ironic youtube video vaguely about a kids movie.
I love this format, it's really engaging to me and also kind of comforting? I have thoughts that conflict a lot of times too and it's hard to figure out exactly why until I really delve deeper into it. Being able to communicate the endearing traits and flaws of any media is ultimately why I look up video essays regarding it in the first place. I may not always agree with other people but I learn a lot from just hearing their opinions. If I disagree with them then there must be a reason right? Same goes to the validation of enjoying it for its clear message or whatever I internally interpreted as its message.
In the end, even if the conversation strays, if we all experienced the same media then we're able to get a glimpse of other people in their various aspects. It's the middle ground for intimate and casual conversation for me. Given example is when we argue over how gay whatever it was and how it could be gayer!
please do more of this, you need to! its so fucking good
its probably very hard to make a script like this, but please ITS SO FUCKING GOOD
Huh… I think you somehow kinda made me like and relate to WALL•E for once while also literally stating why I have never liked or really connected to WALL·E. Damn… Another fantastic video Alex (Also love that title change)
Alex’s earrings changing between takes is a lovely thing to keep track fo
Alex, amazing work !!
Everyone's talking about how funny is it that the Alexs argue together but I just want that t-shirt Marxist!Alex has because I'm also a marxist Alex
"Loves makes us human"
Me, an aromantic: I'm a God then
Romantic love is not the only type of love :) - A fellow aro. All humans desire and crave human connection and love, it's not about romance.
No, your a mid sized grape.
Romantic love is not the only kind! But yeah it's tough to be a god
How about familiar love or love between friends?
Unprompted but were you a sander sides guy? It’s giving sander sides ngl
Ugh yes I literally said out loud “uhm Sanders Sides?” Good to know Im not the only leftist-video-essay-watching loser who watched Sanders Sides 🤧 still do nostalgically ngl
feeling so betrayed that TH-cam hid this from me changing my notif settings immediately. Great video Alex!!
I've been following your channel for years and you've grown soo much intellectually and artistically! You're so good at these videos
Unrelated, but did anyone notice how middle Alex's earrings kept changing
“So a communist, a gender constructivist, and a postmodernist walk into a classroom…”
I love these short-form videos! I can watch the whole thing in one lunch break :)
I love how this video perfectly captures how fucking obnoxious and ridiculously complicated my internal monologue is ^-^
Your videos resonate with me on ten different levels I struggle to name and at least ten more I'm not even aware of.
We just had a Wall-E unit it sci fi lit class.
I was just wondering when you would have a new video yesterday
I love that 1/3 of the video are people supporting you. Congratulations!
Huh.... I can't tell if your channel is being suppressed. I have all notifications turned on, but I didn't see this until just now, 13 days after publishing....
Wow this is super funny. I love the change from your previous content, which I really like for itself, though. This was hilarious and I was giggling almost constantly from the start. Thanks, and keep up the great work :)
You keep outperforming yourself with each new video. Amazing job. 👏👏👏
This was a very fun and engaging video, and your humor is impeccable as ever.
Love watching the evolution of the production value !!!
Wow that is commitment to your patreons! Almost half the video is just mentioning them!
well done as always
10 minutes of video, 7 minutes of patreon names. interesting job you have there. (thanks for the video i enjoy this kind of socratic internal dialogue a lot!)
I'm a very surface level person. My inside dialogue is held between 5 year olds. They laugh at the movie, ask each other if they saw the fart joke, laugh some more. I'm the perfect audience for Hollywood. I wonder if having such a rich inner dialogue between a panoply of identities is a blessing or a curse. Not having one myself, I see blessing.
I don't like the phrase "ignorance is bliss" but living inside my own head has only debilitated me, so, yeah, I agree.
oo this was fun and interesting!! i would watch 20 more videos like this
I like how Marxander, Genderxander and Millenialxander are so focused on their own analysis based on their concerns that none of them mention the main subject of the movie which is that pollution will eventually fuck us all in the ass if we don't do anything, and how the hopeful ending mislead people to think that even if we actually destroy the planet, eventually it'll be fine again.
And I am aware it may just be how I understand it, but I think their overly complicated debate on the film and it's message is a great representation of the mental weight that recent generations carry with them into every media they consume. What I mean is that escapism becomes more and more difficult to enjoy because the guilt of trying to forget about all the important and critical matters in the world eat us alive every second of our life, especially when part of a minority where looking away from the problems that face our communities can literally end with people dying. Therefore, every media we consume is automatically sent into a complex machinery which questions the ideological implications and the morality of said media, and the result will define weither or not the movie is good, regardless of its actual quality.
I think Millenialxander is a perfect example of the mental state of most of us. After he explained his analysis, when he talks about his feelings, he sums it up: "I feel like shit".
On the other end, Profxander is the part of us that wants to be able to enjoy things sincerely instead of having to go through the whole morality check process every time. He's not unaware of the importance of the topics discussed by the others, it's simply not what he asked of them nor what he wanted to talk about when he asked for thoughts on the movie. At the end, he explicits that he wants to know not what ideological commentary they pulled from the movie but rather how it made them feel, how it talked to their feelings.
I may read a little too much into it and I'm aware of that lol. Still, love the video, it was very interesting and it really made me want to watch Wall-E again with the idea that they're lesbian robots.
I'm watching this video and eating pickles straight from the jar instead of studying for my physics final (vibes)
Love it. I love this kind of vídeos too.
This is one of the best video essays I've ever seen.
wall-e is about hot gay robot sex and nothing else
OMG I just came across this video! I'm so happy you made a WALL-E related video!! WALL-E's my favorite movie🥰
Me too
The Patreon voice is truly a vibe
and i will be stealing this format of video for at least one school video essay
This was a fun and insightful to watch!
"While that is a level of sincerity that I I'm not emotionally equipped to handle, I ultimately agree."
Love the quote, and we really need more sincerity
esp. in leftist spaces! Not just intellectual critique or dunking, but actually engaging with how art make us feel. I feel like expressing positive emotions or enjoyment of a thing is considered "cringe," bc the only feelings that are allowed are outrage, derision, and anomie.