Oh no, how could I ever play hoi4 without the allied speeches pack that interrupts the music I’m listening to so I can hear Churchill proclaim he’s at war with Germany!
4:45 You could have puppets... it's just you couldn't interact with them at all. They were basically perma-allied nations that gave you a small kickback in factories, and that was it.
@@computethis1533 Found that out the hard way when I just had the base game and tried to to my first WC as Germany. Wanted to use the old shadow puppeting of China trick but realized I couldn't annex my new puppet before Japan declared war on it.
There are various YT videos and websites with the DLC files for any given Paradox game. For example: m.th-cam.com/video/rwvYnka7WQo/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUOaG9pNCBkbGMgY3JhY2s%3D
have you considered going the way of the swashbucklers? i’m quite sure that you can “totally normally acquire” the game, move over the dlcs to your legit game directory, should run fine. alternatively just download dlcs directly
The Dutch going fascist is an odd thing that happens before Man The Guns I'd assume, strangely enough Mexico also turns fascist, even if historical is on.
As someone who has only played with the free stuff in the game, I can tell you that happens because those nations don't have any other advisors, and pick the demagogue, slowly turning them ahistorical.
@@that1guy975 As someone who also played free until getting the dlc, I swear I remember the Dutch and Mexicans having other advisors, could be misremembering though
@@cadzilla I think that they do have other advisors as well, but in the case of the Dutch, most are locked behind either Ideology restraints, or completing a focus that doesn't exist without the DLCs. In combination with the ai being dumb, and choosing an ideology advisor instead of an actually good one.
With the "new" base game some things in the game dynamics just changed a bit weirdly. Things I noticed compared to the "old" basegame: -The soviets always lose completely in historical. Even when you send 50% of your supply as lend Lease in the hope for them to push out more units -the Netherlands will turn fascist in historical for some reason -the AI allies need player support to win in Africa (else they will screw up big time) -republican Spain seems to win more often. -japan is able to overwhelm China much more easily
Pre-DLC merge you COULD have puppets in the base game-one kind of puppet, without the autonomy system. T4V added subject management but they did exist before it.
Let me tell you I'm kind of a new player I have almost 300 hours and I was telling you for over half of that I was playing with no DLC and it was a struggle to play any other country but I finally had those three free ones and then I bought no step back and the ones for the Balkans even though I don't have all the DLCs this makes the game so much better is kind of crazy how DLC changes so much😭😭😭
if you literally cant afford the game, just pirate it. If you ever become rich, you can pay for it, devs did a good job but yeah the pricing isnt really centered around the average guy.
@@shotya9403 i do pirate but i want the achievements and to show my hours on my steam account i only pirate old game that cost a lot of money like the old cod i pirate waw bo1 bo2
The worst thing about basegame hoi is the missing navy designer. It is absolutely necessary to enjoy building navy, without it it's absolutely painful.
0:38 Ah yes, without the free Poland focus tree dlc. That happens. Only encountered that when I launched the game from the folder, without an internet connection to steam, while only having the game from steam library sharing. It was weird.
The only designer that adds much to the game is the Naval one. It makes sense that you can upgrade tech, and add it through refitting older ships. The plane and tank designer would be a fun stand-alone feature in a simulator, but it's just make work. I have done exactly what ISP is doing recently, that is playing with "all" the DLC turned off, and only miss Man the Guns for the naval designer, the US alt history which actually has some good buffs to go interventionist democracy US, and the sea tile control feature.
To this day, i am still puzzled by their bizarre choice to give Switzerland of all things a focus tree. Their whole thing throughout history is not getting involved. Could have had an Austrian focus tree. At least they were somewhat involved in WW2, certainly more than Switzerland, just why Switzerland i don't think even the Swiss want a focus tree. Paradox really is just a mystery.
I've been a fan of HO4 for years. Wanted lately to buy either HO4 and slowly buy the dlcs as i learned the game, or Stellaris, and I was trying to decide between the 2 (even watched your base HOI4 video from a year ago). I saw this video today and I didn't even know the first few DLCs were added to the base purchase. I won't say that fact, and your video, convinced me or anything, but my game finished downloading before i finished this video. Nice video comrade
I’m glad that they still include some of the alt-history paths in the base game, because I feel like if you couldn’t go ahistorical aside from manually justifying, clicking different events, etc. without paying $19.99 the game would get real old real fast.
I have a challenge Revert back to 1.12 Turn off ironman Give yourself super heavy tanks SUPER HEAVY TANK ONLY (You can use motorized and mechanized for org, plus motorized or armored recon)
Absolutely hate the forced designers with the DLCs. Wish we could have a combo where the designer was available if you wanted it, but you also got the default historical classes for free when you research something
4:45 you could have puppets they just could break free or get integreated but you also couldnt take there devisions (I belive) so they were really just an allie with extra privilages
My main issue with designers is there is no indication what is good and what the numbers you see actually do beside the "bigger number is better" how much does one military factory give in terms ot production how are you supposed to know what a expansive tank is what do the breakthrough stats mean in exact numbers same as soft attack etc, from watching ton of videos i concluded that 15 production of a tank is roughly the "ideal" cost soft attack armor breakthrough no fucking clue so i just do the "bigger number goes brr"
My boi's slowly becoming a paradox QA free employee ngl. Well, if by free, you mean co-dependency being sponsored by them once in a while and plateforming the game them all year around
Paradox is the only company that somehow manages to get away with selling you a overpiced game that turns out to be just a shell of the actual game that can be filled by buying millions of dlcs that cost almost like the base game, and somehow no one says anything. Like immagine if by buying minecraft you only get the 1.12 update and then you have to pay for the stuff in every single update like 20 euros for the sea update, 20 for the nether and so on. Like everyone would be mad, and somehow paradox manages to do the same thing
That dark picture is actually a picture of the german version of Hoi4, because it was quite debated, if computer games were to be seen as art. Despite the highest german court declaring that they are and as such may show national socialist signs uncensored, most companies don't really want to risk fighting that in court
Now imagine me before they added that dlc, the only focus trees were the main nations with no alt history paths, Poland, and only recently Finland. No air volunteers, no puppet interaction, no designers, impossible to quell resistance cheaply, no armored cars, no special forces stuff. It was legitimate difficult to take out France because the French and English Ai get insane buffs to aircraft that are unbeatable. And forget fighting the United States and Russia at the same time. No winning
Man, all the DLC’s that were out when I started playing, cool. It’s a bit sad that they fixed the bug that let you do all 3 of Germany’s alt-history paths in one game.
the designers are cool for roleplay and minmaxing, but I would REALLY love it if there were buttons you could press at the beginning of the game to deactivate so and so designer. sometimes, I just want to go zoom with light tanks without having to worry about making them too expensive, or build a fleet of sub 3 and destroy the royal navy.
Dutch always flip fascist without dlcs, but if you do the Germany focus path that nobody does which is flipping your neighbors fascist and allying them instead of annexing them, they would probably flip even faster
Ohh, and I wondered, what that update today was good for (I don't have any DLC's, so I was confused, when he said, that the alt-history tree for Germany is free now)
Man, wouldn't it be a perfect world if you didn't have to miss out on focus trees just to avoid the incomprehensible designers? ❤ Sure, the designers are pretty easy to get around on... it's just that any ship I design SUCKS. I couldn't imagine myself designing a good TANK or PLANE now too, at the cost of experience impulsively spent on doctrines first, or sticking to a "META" design given updates will nerf it or make it useless.
I have a weird idea for another terrible game ISP! Puppets only! Generaly: as UK (they fit the best for it, but I guess France or USSR could do it too) release all/most of your colonies (you can leave Malta, Belize and all the one-tile as to not burn down your PC) as puppets, and use their troops as a backbone of your army. You have to call all of them in case of war, so the front is the same as if you were playing normal UK. Also, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland count as colonies too. Of course your can run some elite units from British core terrytories, but only to the limit of your manpower (can't use the trick with using colonies manpower for your builds). I am curious as to how that would go for you...
Wait I was supposed to play them with DLC??? this is how I played HOI4 the entire time lmao. I'd just download mods if i ever get bored from base game.
12:00 surely it can’t be as bad as that one mod where isp had to go all the way to Alaska and they still didn’t cap so he had to take Hawaii but they still didn’t cap so he had to take the kurils
hungry actually joins the axis now, if England's faction collapses the domains will actually rejoin, plus Chinese United Front isn't a gamble if it works. Also you can integrate puppets. (also the Dutch always become fascist for some reason)
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What if you play HOI4 with every DLC enabled? Would be crazy…
Okay hear me out every DLC AND A MOD
@@erici4966 No way, that can’t be possible I don’t think anyone has done that before
lmao nobody plays La Resistance
Me neither🫢😲@@tridactasaurus
@@mrwri i do
Paying for DLCs: 🤮🤮🤮
Waiting 10 years for paradox to add them to the basegame:🤩🤩🤩
Ahoy-ing them
Pirating the DLC's : 🗿🗿
The 2nd one never happens...
@@command_unit7792 It did happen, to Together for Victory, Waking the Tiger and Death or Dishonor
Probably won't happen again though
@@IvanIvanovsky-gs9hjbuying steam keys and paying 4 bucks 👽
Oh no, how could I ever play hoi4 without the allied speeches pack that interrupts the music I’m listening to so I can hear Churchill proclaim he’s at war with Germany!
I hate it so bad cause its always happens when a soundtrack I like comes on
I think you can disable them by not activating the pack
"Attention, gamers! I have done nothing wrong, ever, in my life." -Neville Chamberlain, 2020
@@Merejiah nope its still plays annoyingly
i just mute the music with my spotify playlist that doesn't fit with the game at all
4:45 You could have puppets... it's just you couldn't interact with them at all.
They were basically perma-allied nations that gave you a small kickback in factories, and that was it.
I was going to write a similar comment, but I'm glad I found this, you beat me to it.
You also physically couldn’t get rid of them
@@computethis1533 Found that out the hard way when I just had the base game and tried to to my first WC as Germany. Wanted to use the old shadow puppeting of China trick but realized I couldn't annex my new puppet before Japan declared war on it.
Reminds me of my first playthrough. I lost 3 million men fighting Poland as the USSR
Sounds like my typical gameplay
I have a SS where I invaded Poland and lost 3mil compared to polish losses of 400k
Poland🗿
A stacked my entire army on one Tile and wondered why i didn‘t win
@@mttokrnk I didn't create a frontline and sent my entire army to Warsaw instead
Welcome to the world of not spending $100+ to play a complete game, run while you still can
Dude you can get it cracked with all the dlcs
Its insane how they want 100 dollars for content t6hat shozuld be added for free.
@AbdullahSwailmeen1923 how?
There are various YT videos and websites with the DLC files for any given Paradox game.
For example: m.th-cam.com/video/rwvYnka7WQo/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUOaG9pNCBkbGMgY3JhY2s%3D
@@DuplexWeevil337 give me your discord ill teach you
I’m a broke 16 year old. This is how I play the game. 600+ hours. It sucks.
have you considered going the way of the swashbucklers? i’m quite sure that you can “totally normally acquire” the game, move over the dlcs to your legit game directory, should run fine. alternatively just download dlcs directly
Broke 16 year old with a computer to play on and a copy of hoi4
1000+ for me
Or was it 2000?
I dont know anymore, I'm lost.
@@jamesdizon5133 would that affect mods at all?
Just youse creaminstaller if you cant buy for the dlcs
The Dutch going fascist is an odd thing that happens before Man The Guns I'd assume, strangely enough Mexico also turns fascist, even if historical is on.
As someone who has only played with the free stuff in the game, I can tell you that happens because those nations don't have any other advisors, and pick the demagogue, slowly turning them ahistorical.
@@that1guy975 As someone who also played free until getting the dlc, I swear I remember the Dutch and Mexicans having other advisors, could be misremembering though
@@cadzilla I think that they do have other advisors as well, but in the case of the Dutch, most are locked behind either Ideology restraints, or completing a focus that doesn't exist without the DLCs. In combination with the ai being dumb, and choosing an ideology advisor instead of an actually good one.
@@that1guy975 AI being dumb sounds typical. "Would you rather hire the industrial guy or the nationalistic advisor".
@@cadzillaSounds like current day UK.
With the "new" base game some things in the game dynamics just changed a bit weirdly.
Things I noticed compared to the "old" basegame:
-The soviets always lose completely in historical. Even when you send 50% of your supply as lend Lease in the hope for them to push out more units
-the Netherlands will turn fascist in historical for some reason
-the AI allies need player support to win in Africa (else they will screw up big time)
-republican Spain seems to win more often.
-japan is able to overwhelm China much more easily
What if you played HOI4 with the rat enabled have you thought of that?
By the time we get to the Alf Landon game Paradox will have released a dedicated Alf Landon DLC. 😄
Pre-DLC merge you COULD have puppets in the base game-one kind of puppet, without the autonomy system. T4V added subject management but they did exist before it.
You know that there still are rats without dlcs
Where?
What's the problem? Maybe they don't want to pay 7-16 $ more for each
Piracy is the way
I have arms against tyranny, and downloaded road to 56 and the Great War redux
This was me last year, also at least one of these people are right.
Before together for victory puppets did existed but they just stuck there because game lacked a "Annex" button
And they also lacked like basically everything else
@@omphya6229 not having annex button was a bigger problem because they stuck and have no use without it
Let me tell you I'm kind of a new player I have almost 300 hours and I was telling you for over half of that I was playing with no DLC and it was a struggle to play any other country but I finally had those three free ones and then I bought no step back and the ones for the Balkans even though I don't have all the DLCs this makes the game so much better is kind of crazy how DLC changes so much😭😭😭
Piracy my brother, for when your are broke, if not just buy imo
if you literally cant afford the game, just pirate it. If you ever become rich, you can pay for it, devs did a good job but yeah the pricing isnt really centered around the average guy.
@@shotya9403 i do pirate but i want the achievements and to show my hours on my steam account i only pirate old game that cost a lot of money like the old cod i pirate waw bo1 bo2
@@hitfire755 you can get the full game with dlcs and just copy them over to your steam game folder
My fellow comrades we should commend this man for doing such a horrendous act, he did something no one could do...
Yet he couldn’t bring back the rat
Unfortunately, this is just how I play HoI4.
I got it because my friend wanted to play it with me, and I regret it entirely.
dear isp, the dlcs for the hitler face and the polish focus tree (not nsb, the earlier smaller one, i forget the name) are both free
Poland: United and Ready
the hitler face dlc
yeah, i thought it must've been part of that, since i played HOI 4 on release (obviously without dlcs) and mustache man was normally present there
The worst thing about basegame hoi is the missing navy designer. It is absolutely necessary to enjoy building navy, without it it's absolutely painful.
14:01, ISP says "rats." We're almost there, his will is crumbling. Soon we shall have him back.
#bringbacktherats
Forget the rat, bring back Palden Norbu
"If you buy the Italian focus tree DLC you also get the Swiss focus tree."
...Swiss had a focus tree in vanilla? I...Never even knew.
As someone who hasn't bought a dlc since waking the tiger, this is basically my experience
You truly did it together for victory
Me: 3000 hours no DLC
0:38
Ah yes, without the free Poland focus tree dlc. That happens.
Only encountered that when I launched the game from the folder, without an internet connection to steam, while only having the game from steam library sharing.
It was weird.
Not polish dlc, this is German Historical Portaits. banned in germany.
The only designer that adds much to the game is the Naval one. It makes sense that you can upgrade tech, and add it through refitting older ships. The plane and tank designer would be a fun stand-alone feature in a simulator, but it's just make work. I have done exactly what ISP is doing recently, that is playing with "all" the DLC turned off, and only miss Man the Guns for the naval designer, the US alt history which actually has some good buffs to go interventionist democracy US, and the sea tile control feature.
To this day, i am still puzzled by their bizarre choice to give Switzerland of all things a focus tree. Their whole thing throughout history is not getting involved. Could have had an Austrian focus tree. At least they were somewhat involved in WW2, certainly more than Switzerland, just why Switzerland i don't think even the Swiss want a focus tree.
Paradox really is just a mystery.
I've been a fan of HO4 for years. Wanted lately to buy either HO4 and slowly buy the dlcs as i learned the game, or Stellaris, and I was trying to decide between the 2 (even watched your base HOI4 video from a year ago). I saw this video today and I didn't even know the first few DLCs were added to the base purchase. I won't say that fact, and your video, convinced me or anything, but my game finished downloading before i finished this video. Nice video comrade
I cannot believe that in base HoI4 game Adolf H. is undiscovered character, I suppose you have to open boxes to make him drop as playable.
When Your Game’s Updates Are The DLCs:
Epic Business Practice
I’m glad that they still include some of the alt-history paths in the base game, because I feel like if you couldn’t go ahistorical aside from manually justifying, clicking different events, etc. without paying $19.99 the game would get real old real fast.
I have a challenge
Revert back to 1.12
Turn off ironman
Give yourself super heavy tanks
SUPER HEAVY TANK ONLY
(You can use motorized and mechanized for org, plus motorized or armored recon)
How did the 18+ pfp bots comment faster than we did bro.... HOW COULD WE LET THAT HAPPEN GUYS....
Major skill issue
Absolutely hate the forced designers with the DLCs. Wish we could have a combo where the designer was available if you wanted it, but you also got the default historical classes for free when you research something
You just did what i do everyday my man
4:45 you could have puppets they just could break free or get integreated but you also couldnt take there devisions (I belive) so they were really just an allie with extra privilages
Back in the 40s me and my boys used to play REAL Hearts of Iron although, after we lost the 3rd man decided not to go for the 4th
My main issue with designers is there is no indication what is good and what the numbers you see actually do beside the "bigger number is better" how much does one military factory give in terms ot production how are you supposed to know what a expansive tank is what do the breakthrough stats mean in exact numbers same as soft attack etc, from watching ton of videos i concluded that 15 production of a tank is roughly the "ideal" cost soft attack armor breakthrough no fucking clue so i just do the "bigger number goes brr"
cause no one understands what the number means :)
ISP, im coming for you
come for him.
Everyone who also always suffe/ I mean plays like this assemble!
Crazy not being able to block sea tiles without DLC.... Such an essential thing.
You forgot to mention that waking the tiger also added a Japanese reworked focus tree
there's some good mods left for straight vanilla too... haven't rolled back for any of them , but might be fun to check out
My boi's slowly becoming a paradox QA free employee ngl.
Well, if by free, you mean co-dependency being sponsored by them once in a while and plateforming the game them all year around
I HATE this system. You shouldn't pay for a Quarter of a game, to then have to pay double it for DLCs that introduce Basic Mechanics
I don't have any of the DLCs and that's my day to day experience :)
creamapi if you cannot afford, if you can afford buy it cuz its def worth it for some
Paradox is the only company that somehow manages to get away with selling you a overpiced game that turns out to be just a shell of the actual game that can be filled by buying millions of dlcs that cost almost like the base game, and somehow no one says anything. Like immagine if by buying minecraft you only get the 1.12 update and then you have to pay for the stuff in every single update like 20 euros for the sea update, 20 for the nether and so on. Like everyone would be mad, and somehow paradox manages to do the same thing
it's just the lack of competition, really. If there were other companies which did Paradox's niche and were competitive then it'd be different
That dark picture is actually a picture of the german version of Hoi4, because it was quite debated, if computer games were to be seen as art. Despite the highest german court declaring that they are and as such may show national socialist signs uncensored, most companies don't really want to risk fighting that in court
Play Imperator Rome next, they’re updating it again.
Now imagine me before they added that dlc, the only focus trees were the main nations with no alt history paths, Poland, and only recently Finland. No air volunteers, no puppet interaction, no designers, impossible to quell resistance cheaply, no armored cars, no special forces stuff. It was legitimate difficult to take out France because the French and English Ai get insane buffs to aircraft that are unbeatable. And forget fighting the United States and Russia at the same time. No winning
Man, all the DLC’s that were out when I started playing, cool. It’s a bit sad that they fixed the bug that let you do all 3 of Germany’s alt-history paths in one game.
the designers are cool for roleplay and minmaxing, but I would REALLY love it if there were buttons you could press at the beginning of the game to deactivate so and so designer. sometimes, I just want to go zoom with light tanks without having to worry about making them too expensive, or build a fleet of sub 3 and destroy the royal navy.
I like how funny it is the AI can do focuses which can support the other group
ISP beating the German Civil War before the Spanish one fires off while I utterly struggle to finish by '37.
throw back to 2017
Dutch always flip fascist without dlcs, but if you do the Germany focus path that nobody does which is flipping your neighbors fascist and allying them instead of annexing them, they would probably flip even faster
I honestly waited for another edition of no-dlc gameplay
Ohh, and I wondered, what that update today was good for (I don't have any DLC's, so I was confused, when he said, that the alt-history tree for Germany is free now)
Sooooooo remember when minor additions to the game over time were free?
Man, wouldn't it be a perfect world if you didn't have to miss out on focus trees just to avoid the incomprehensible designers? ❤
Sure, the designers are pretty easy to get around on... it's just that any ship I design SUCKS. I couldn't imagine myself designing a good TANK or PLANE now too, at the cost of experience impulsively spent on doctrines first, or sticking to a "META" design given updates will nerf it or make it useless.
The reason why you don’t need dlc to get Trotsky is because you could get him in the original focus tree if you never did the great purge focus.
waiting until spies only releases
I'm surprised Stalin didn't send you any troops to invade the Soviets
I have a weird idea for another terrible game ISP!
Puppets only!
Generaly: as UK (they fit the best for it, but I guess France or USSR could do it too) release all/most of your colonies (you can leave Malta, Belize and all the one-tile as to not burn down your PC) as puppets, and use their troops as a backbone of your army. You have to call all of them in case of war, so the front is the same as if you were playing normal UK. Also, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland count as colonies too. Of course your can run some elite units from British core terrytories, but only to the limit of your manpower (can't use the trick with using colonies manpower for your builds).
I am curious as to how that would go for you...
Yeah
Still, this is so much better than like 3 months ago when none of the DLCs were in the base game.
Now play HOI4 with as many compatible mods as possible.
I don’t care how loud your computer’s fan will be, do it nerd!
I bet his secret enemy ISP is working on an Eu4 video like this (please)
I really want Alf Landon but unfortunately I've been subscribed since banana republic in A-Z :(
Alf Landon is coming... watch your backs...
The AI is very competent in base game
1 div artillery with no DLC is fun because you coup literally everyone to your side
Thats why you play mods with vanilla, yeah its pure hell
Cool, so I went from paying extra for dlcs to having a pricier base game. Neat
8k views in 28 minutes hes....cool
its nice that your Allies are doing some ratting, but Mr. iSorrow, where is the RAT?
As a person with only AAT and the free stuff, I suffer every time.
just a usual tuesday for me
I wonder if the certain DLCs becoming vanilla means we get new DLC for the major powers
This is how I play, and I still think it’s rough
The base game is kinda nice ngl without those weird mechanics that rarely make use of
Wait I was supposed to play them with DLC??? this is how I played HOI4 the entire time lmao. I'd just download mods if i ever get bored from base game.
BOB SEMPLE ONLY CHALLENGE
Welcome to my world.
you could have puppets without together for victory, you just couldnt annex them.
I’ve been playing Hoi and eu4 for 6 years I’m schocked I’ve spent that much money on a map game
WE DEMAND THE RAT
Let's be good viewers and pay for ISP's rehab after this much suffering
ISP i’m begging you to partake in at least one of Valefisk board game vids
Oh and btw,what is the DLC for more focus?
Me who plays without a single dlc
Wth??? Waking the Tiger is the only dlc i had give me my fucking money back paradox
I feel like you should make the most cursed set of enabled DLCs then play with historical ai off.
12:00 surely it can’t be as bad as that one mod where isp had to go all the way to Alaska and they still didn’t cap so he had to take Hawaii but they still didn’t cap so he had to take the kurils
A monarchist play through? I was missing an olde rambler try
hungry actually joins the axis now, if England's faction collapses the domains will actually rejoin, plus Chinese United Front isn't a gamble if it works. Also you can integrate puppets.
(also the Dutch always become fascist for some reason)
ive been doing this my whole life
iSorrow playing on the German version of Hoi4? Who would have thought.
Correction, you could have puppets but you couldn't annex them and they couldn't get free
Oh, with those DLC I might give the game another chance
So if I brought the earlier dlc’s will I get new ones free or something or did I just do a very extended preorder?