Sen no Kiseki III [BGM RIP] - Hamel −Remains−
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- Music: Hamel −Remains−
Composer: Hayato Sonoda (Falcom Sound Team jdk)
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Platform: PlayStation 4
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Rest in peace Wataru Ishibashi (39 years old, 2014) creator of Silver Will. Thanks to you, we will never forget about Hamel.
He will always be remembered for what he did. May he rest in peace.
Thank you Ishibashi for all the wonderful tracks you've created in Gurumin, and Sky games. I hope you find your peace on the other side and i hope i get to hear more of your greatness on this side as well in the future.
Edit: i manage to play Zwei 1 and hear your works there. I honestly think that game might be your magnum opus in Falcom. Now i have more reasons to love your work. Once again, thank you Ishibashi for your wonderful, wonderful music and may you rest in peace. And i definitely do feel better whenever i hear your music
sad
@@FSAPOJake I disagree as nothing else (Meaning other media/non-Trails OSTs) still compares even with CS tracks alone but yes, he was incredible.
Didn't knew this...😔
The fact that even Shirley was willing to allow Rean and the others to pay their respects, and then agrees to his request to fight elsewhere really drives home just how sacred this place is.
I like to believe that this shows she isn't just a blood-crazed monster hellbent on destroying everything it sees. Little things like this give more depth to a character.
@@Isomeria450 she's blood crazed but not actually insane there's a method to her madness and even a sense of respect to certain others. She has a warped sense of honor.
This is one of my favorite things about so many Trails antagonists, even if they're not on your side they still show their humanity and feel relatable.
it's referencing Loewe doing the same thing in Ravennue in SC
@@GalanOfTruth She's bloodthirsty, but honorable. And a good older sister figure to Cedric as well. Both her and Cedric are lost, trying to figure out what to do with their power.
While many series would shoehorn in something like Hamel as a quintessential 'edgy' backstory for a character, Trails really makes you 'feel' the weight of what happened in Hamel. From Loewe explaining the truth to a shocked Estelle, to the glimpses you see in flashbacks, to then 200+ hours of games later to actually set foot in the place, is just unbelievably haunting. As I wandered the ruins, I had a lump in my throat and felt as if I was actually walking the site of some real life tragedy. Seeing Loewe's sword, and the toys, watching Tita and Agate pay their respects.
If that isn't a testament to the power of Trails world-building and characterization, I don't know what is
make sense why Tita and Agate was there especially agate. I remember when those two faught and wasn't Loewe the one that broke his sword from SC? another thing kinda wish we saw Joshua come here again
@@PrincessTwilightdash You do, one of the final sidequests in CS4 is called 'Ghosts of Hamel' and features the Liberl gang plus Ash returning here
In the end, let's be positive:
Leonhardt died protecting his little brother
Joshua found a loving family
Ash found an awesome mother, even after she passed away, he manage to get in Class VII, knowing he won't be alone anymore
And when Loewe died he and Karin got to be together again
I walked with solemnity in Hamel like I would in an actual funeral. That's how much impact Sky SC had on me.
Same, Rean and Cie didn't realize where they were going at that time, only Agate knew
But when i arrived in Hamel, i was just silently staring at my screen while advancing, finding the wooden sword, and the toy, knowing exactly who used to play here
If the music wasn't enough, the simple fact that a bloodthirtsy beast like Shirley was paying her respect and didn't want to fight there say a lot about how sadness and tragedy weight on the ruins of this village (while Shirley didn't even knew Leonhardt)
I think even people who didn't play Sky trilogy understood immediately what kind of place it was
PS: Not exactly the same, but i had kinda the same reaction when walking in the devastated Celdic in CS2, seing the people shocked, devastated and traumatized, begging the injured not to die (and Jusis guilt growing stronger as you advance in the village don't help)
It's hard to say stoic in front of those scenes
That's what me the serie a masterpiece
yeah me too
me too
@@guifire9747 the instant we started walking through the devastated Celdic is sen 2, I instantly thought of Hamel, I even started playing its theme in my head as I was walking through there
@@celica9288 Hamel is Celdic to the extreme. It's worse due to it being hidden from the public the real reason for the attack.
Haven't played Sky but hearing that music and seeing those ruins was enough to tell me some insane bullshit went on there
"Hey.... Tell me.... Who do I gotta kill to get rid of all this pain?"
Yourself, trust me it works 100%
-Osborn
@@elock1277 Not funny
(@@steinsschrodinger8688) oh? Pretty funny.
@@elock1277 Considering Osborne's story that's particularly ironic, since Dreichels curse followed him through reincarnation (also don't work on immortals)
This track might be one of the saddest ones in gaming, as it is now the living reminder of the legend that was Wataru Ishibashi, the composer behind many of Sky's most iconic themes.
Video game deaths probably will sadden you, but this is one passing I could never just get over.
As soon as you arrive Hamel Highway 1, there's a chest near the entrance with Silver Thorns quartz inside. FC fan would find this easter egg amusing and a bit trauma inducing perhaps. Oh, Loewe...
Just started CS3 and as soon as i stepped in Hamel and this started playing, those 3 images came back burning into my mind, and when i found the 3 toys....THEIR 3 toys, i just dropped my controller and broke down in tears. Thank you Wataru Ishibashi for this Masterpiece that is Silver Will and may you rest in peace along all those in Hamel.
I though Celdic was tough. But, Hamel, especially having finished all of Trails up to this point... is on a whole another level. This village, once beautiful, serene and happy, became a justification for a war. A war whose only purpose is for the glory of Nobles. Such a sad, yet beautiful tale. Just like how a volcano fertilizes the ground, or how a phoenix can grow more powerful when its reborn from the ashes, the survivors of Hamel prevailed. Leonhardt, Loewe, The Bladelord, Enforcer II of Ouroboros, in his path of testing humanity, he grew so powerful that even some of the most powerful entities in Zemuria acknowledges his strength and potential. Not only this, he died protecting his girlfriend's brother. Joshua Astray, Joshua Bright, Black Fang, Bracer, Enforcer XIII, the shadow to Estelle's sun, he now protects those important to him. He found friends and allies to rely upon, growing stronger by the minute. Ash Carbide, Classes VII and VIII, he found a mother he can rely on, one that would love him, and even when she perished, he found Class VII and the Thors Branch Campus as a second home, one that will never leave him behind. This series is a masterpiece, I am so glad to have been a part of it, and here's to the rest of the story, may our Heroes succeed so that no more Hamel may be created.
Indeed - I didn't even mind the curse as a plot point, I just thought that it's just a catalyst for events that would have happened anyway - as Valimar says, even without the Curse, it's hard to imagine that Arundel Sr. and the rest of the Noble Faction would have struck in some other place, possibly causing the same amount of deaths and suffering that Hamel did. In the end, the curse mattered little in the series up until the start of the Great War, at which point things had gotten too far to be stopped - again, it was just a matter of time before Osborne found a C.B to go to war with Calvard, if not over the emperor, it would have been over Crossbell (the story of the Great War reminds me of the story of WW2, and Osborne's seizure of power across CS3 reminds me a bit of the real-life transition from Imperial Germany, to the Weimar Republic, to Nazi Germany). Ash shooting the emperor was the right opportunity at the right time. Props to the Falcom writing team for writing such powerful events and scenes
In kuro no kiseki, another peaceful village got nuked into oblivion.
When a tiny village change the fate of the western Zemuria
Rest in Peace Leonhardt, Karin and all the other
I had tears in my eye the entire time when I went through Hamel... You even get to see Lowe's broken sword there.
Did Loewe fall in his battle at Hamel? Broken swords usually mean that person died fighting there.
What surprised me is that despite being enemies, Shirley and Duvalie made a truce in Hamel with Class VII and Agate until they pay their respects to the fallen villagers and Leonhart, then proceed to fight outside the village (Shirley, especially, due to her bloodthirsty nature).
@@mystery8820 The only difference between allies and enemies are their chosen sides. Beyond that, they are still human. Warriors that mourn their fallen comrade whom they greatly respected.
@@mystery8820 His sword is not technically broken....
@@Ninja07Keaton just like when Loewe paid his respect to the grave of Agates sister(and villagers)...
Made me so happy that the old music was never truly forgotten. This track and the remix of The Enforcers coming back for McBurn's fight made my day.
Finally got around to playing CS3 reached this part last night. I just had to stop for a minute. God I love this series’s storytelling
When the bad guys and the good guys pays their respects together. :'(
I mean they're bad guys to each other, they each believe in their own causes so there's not one above the other
@@buttertoast1146 Man, Shirley is in no way a good person. She almost killed Sully and made Illa lost her legs just to provoke Rixia.
Duvaline in other hand isn't a bad person.
@@GUSRG The most impressive is that Shirley didn't even know Loewe, he was already dead when she joined, but even her isn't so low as to add blood in that village that have already saw too much of it, even her have a sense of honor (and Duvalie would have not sit idly if she did try it)
No matter their point of view, when protagonist and antagonist alike agreed on something (especially a "let's fight elsewhere" like here) you know it's a powerful moment
So happy I decided to stop playing at TCS3 and just played Trails in the sky 1-3+Cross bell. Doing so allowed me to truly feel for this scene. Having Hamels theme in the SC was a nice touch and refrencing Karin it was nice.
The moment they arrive in Hamel in CS3 and this starts playing is alone more powerful and emotional than any death in the games.
Of course deaths are sad but this is more than a decade of build up and the story telling is fantastic
That's what's so great about this series. Playing the other games before CS3 is extremely important in order get the full emotional impact this game has to offer. CS 1 and 2 are passable without having played at least the Sky trilogy first, but CS3, in my opinion, is absolutely in need of playing the other games first to get the full effect.
@@evewhoo I realized that first hand I played CS3, and even though it already had me sad, I know once I finish playing the other games, CS3 may become one if not my fav game
@Cool Dude That's why that's annoying Crossbell isn't out, while i know more or less what's happening in it (thanks to wikia or video) i still feel like i'm missing little detail in Crossbell in Chapter 2, and i think it'll be even worse in CS4, and even worse in Hajimari
@@guifire9747 Zero is out, Azure is out super soon, google Geofront and look into it :)
@@KashouWannabe I heard of Geofront, but where do i find the game? (i got all the other games on steam, so idk where i could buy it, don't know how to converse in yen :/)
This song reminds me how much of a complete monster Weissman was, possibly the worst villain of the series thus far. I really think nobody comes close to his cruelty, except the unnamed monsters of Star Door 15 jesus christ....
Even the Grandmaster said so
Please play Zero and Azure. They go into Door 15 and the people behind it.
And it was said that somehow his successor is somehow even more rotten then him. (which fits though, considering his successor is with the group behind star door 15)
I think the cult leader in Zero was worse
@@Maderr4 I didn't play Zero, are we talking about the D : G Cult? Isn't that the same cult I mentioned lol I don't know.
The Hamel scene in CS3 really hit me hard, even though I haven't played the Sky games before I reached it.
Now I get goosebumps every time a major Hamel-related incident happens in Trails in the Sky (I'm currently on SC).
Oh, SC is a hell of a ride. Never cried while playing a game or watching something but SC did it for me. SC is the definition of a masterpiece when it comes to a great story.
it has much more impact if you played the trails in the sky sc first.
I could only guess how you feel when you got to the moment Loewe mention Hamel to Queen Alicia back in FC.
When you think that Celdic could have become a second Hamel if the 4th Armored Division and RMP weren't close enough to prevent the Jeager from staying long such devastation in those two peaceful towns
Just finished chapter 1 of Cold Steel 3. After hearing so much about Hamel in the previous games it was unbelievable to actually set foot in the ruins. As soon as I heard this music and realised it was a melancholy arrangement of Silver Will I just stopped and listened... it really is both sad and beautiful like the characters state. The bracelet amongst the ruins implied to be Karin Astray's was a really powerful titbit.
Another incredibly well done aspect of Hamel is just how universally respected the ruins and Loewe's grave are. When even someone like Shirley is willing to put aside differences to lay flowers and prayers at the grave it's evident that nobody wants to spill even more blood in Hamel. Lastly, the short scene with Tita and Agate laying flowers that were from Estelle, Joshua and Renne jerked a tear out of me. An absolute masterful payoff for a plot point setup 11 years ago in real life time.
Why you do this again Falcom!? This got to me in the flashback in SC. :(
same D:
Even the reveal of the truth may affect 'international security', people across Zemuria still has the right to know it! We have no right to hide behind the truth just because the pain and danger it may bring about. That's just fake peace we live in and ultimately disrespectful to the innocent people who died in Hamel and all the people lost in the war because of it, soldiers and civilians alike. I can't help but wonder if our real world accept this kind of logic and hide truth from us. If that's the case I would absolutely despise the fake peace we have now.
It's awesome they brought this song back. Kinda bizarre to hear a song from Sky play in a Cold Steel game.
Final decision from Sora 3rd is in Sen1 and 2 when you are aboard the Courageous
I wish they did it more often honestly.
They kinda already did that though, with Final Choice from Sky the 3rd.
ElegeantFencer remember that Hamel *is* in erebonia
Arkyre Precisely. This is Hamel's theme song basically. Just so happens that the Tragedy of Hamel plays heavily into the story of Sky SC.
everytime i hear this, i feel like my heart can't take it anymore. it hits you so hard.
not once had i run while in Hamel in CS3 and 4
that would've been just wrong and disrespectful
The only time I run there was in the Draco Shrine
Who do I have to kill, to get rid of all this pain?!
I miss you Ash... Comeback buddy!!!
One of my favorite lines, the voice actor for Ash sounds like he was actually suffering.
@@BakedBanana Austin Lee Matthews
(@@flamesaber3223) Great guy.
@@BakedBanana Plus how dare the chancellor lie on Ash and starting a war with Calvard!
(@@flamesaber3223) I already got the 4th game preordered, so hype to see what happens to Ash and the cast in the upcoming game.
There will be always heroes who'll fight againts this evil called human being. Thank you Falcom, because with low budget but a lot of passion, you gave us a wonderfull saga of jrpgs. Thank you.
Yay, found our lullaby song.
Man, when a tragedy so fricked that even your enemies won't fight you on it says something.
How does this song instantly make me want to cry? This song and the FFX Ending Theme are the only two songs that do that
Because what happened in Hamel was pretty messed up. Also any sad version of Silver Will is instant crying material
Gazing at Your back from Zero and Azure too
Until this point, i spent every minute of every game of the Cold Steel Series just running around, never taking time to walk. (Even in Celdic)
Here...i had to walk. I had to pay my respects, to the victims of this tragedy, and furthermore, to one of the most honorable warriors ever born in Zemuria.
Heck, even the bloodthirsty Shirley refused to fight there, because way too much suffering and sadness already happened.
Same, the moment I arrived in Parm in arc 2 of cs4, Hamel was the first place I went to
They go to Hamel??? Oh man!
yes
oh boy they do indeed go to Hamel
I started playing the Trails games about a month ago, and got there just yesterday.
And damn, this OST got me good.
*me playing Cold Steel 3 so a friend can see if wants to buy the first game*
*me trying desperately to keep my composure as the the party nears Hamel*
*the party enters Hamel*
*I am crying on the inside*
My Friend: "Dude, are you ok? You've been quite for the past 10 minutes"
Me: "I need an adult"
I know, I'm so glad I played the Trails of the Sky series before Cold Steel 3 came out.
I'm going to replay CS3 now that I finished all Trails
I only played up till SC. Was listening the soundtrack for legend of heroes and ended up here. Amazing song.
Currently just saw that scene with Ash my god that was beautiful Kiseki just manages to swerve you and then pull at your heartstrings with the most subtle of dialogue. Debating doing a second play through or jumping right into sen 4
I wish I played the trails in the sky games.. It still hit me hard tho since i kind of know the characters and the general backstory
Its never to late to play them they're on steam.
After watching the game play, I now know the pain of this!
i wonder if we will ever see joshua and Estella.... i really hope they would appers in Sen no kiseki IV and listen Silver will one more time
Of course, we gonna see them again. No doubt.
Joshua and Renne might appear on IV, heck I have a feeling that we may see all of the Enforcers....
They will appear on sen 4 no doubt，scherazard had already meet up with muller and preparing to help Tita and the others outside the...cup or 黑杯 whatever it was
Since Tita is Also involve，no way Joshua Estelle and Renne are gonna sit still
Sen no kiseki IV gonna be lit espescially with that kind of ending in III
BlackWingsJet they just announced they’re gonna appear in sen no kiseki iv
Holy crap! The feels....!!!!!
The root of all problems in the Trails game...
a problem that osbro is trying to solve
@@soniablanche5672 By sacrificing little girls? Nah chief.
@@kurosan0079 homonculous*
@@soniablanche5672 Still little girls, no matter the species
Ha-Hamel?!! OMG.
everytime i hear this when i go to Hamel i was instinctively cover my mouth as if in shock of what i'm seeing. especially when you hear the same keys from the trails n the sky op.
ハーメル入ってBGMよく聞いたらSilver Willなことに気づいた時は思わずニヤついた。
I cannot listen to this without crying... dammit!
Its........ITS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still gives me chills...
i have a one month old newborn and she likes to fall asleep during this song
The curse of erebonia, crystallized in depth and breadth within hamel alone.
Little did we know that it would all begin with a need for power, that would lead to the end of a peaceful village.
Only a Majestic voice filled with an indomitable will could begin the next phase in ending such tragedy.
And thus a young man filled with hopes and love, would sing and prepare the world for a path none could see coming.
A young boy set on a path of his own, to carry a burden none other could bare. To be the light for his country.
And thus the three boys of the village will falter, only to share a common goal to fix what they and the tragedy have started.
A girl who shines brighter than the sun, will show the way to that third path none other could walk toward.
SCREW CROSSBELL
This song really reminds of Steel samurai theme from ace attorney series.
There is the normal version (comparable to the normal Silver will).
Then there is Reminiscence, which is basically the slowed down version of steel samurai, used during sad moments.
Whoa whoa whoa why the hell is agate here does he show up in cold steel 3?
Yes he does. As well as another Sky character.
SandyBoi holy shit know I'm even more hype. Too bad it'll be at least a year before it gets released.
Not just Agate but another Sky character, and two characters from the Crossbell duology also appear. Basically CS3 is when the Liberl, Crossbell, and Erebonia stories all meet up and develop even further
oh man a super eerie version of Silver Will
RecentIy, Had Played CS3 To Hamel Scene And Agate Tell Class VII About Behide The Scene Of Hamel. It's Too Sad For This Forgotten Town. 😭😭😭
Ash: Tell me... Who do I gotta kill to get rid of all this pain?
Emperor: The curse...
Chancellor: Yes. This is the ‘sacrifice’ as foretold in the prophecy.
Man that part was rough
The part where the Emperor got shot was even rougher. He took the hit to open the Gral of Erebos. The prophecy said that the Gral opens if the blood of ancient Arnor was spilled. Meaning if the direct descendant even get a drop of blood spilled from even a scratch wound, the door opens.
@@mystery8820 Poor Alfin, her dad is shot and just after the Courageous explode, she was not ready for this
@@mystery8820 I don't think its so much about injury. That's nearly impossible over the course of 900 years. Blood being spilled amongst nobility is a common theme across history, both on Earth and in the Trails world. The Emperor already knew things were heading towards their climax because other parts of the prophecy were already fulfilled.
That one dislike is "spoiler's" dad who orchestrated the massacre.
It’s Lechter ain’t it?
Just played the game.
Noble: *attack Hamel*
*The Entire world dislikes that*
2x speed for an awesome SIlver WIll track >:Dw
goddammit falcom..... T-T
And thus the only thing that remains in this cruel world is Hamel..Oh nevermind
(Its just a word now)
I just beat loewe in trails in the sky sc on nightmare mode I believe I gave him the proper fight And beat wiessman to a bloody pulp 200000+ hp
If you have played SC, this song would crush you like a truck.
I made sure to play the FC and SC of Liberl Arc, as well as both Crossbell arcs first before jumping to CS3..
When i got here, i got that same sad goosebumps / vibe as when the tragedy of hamel was first explained in Sky games..
This is literally the FIRST TIME we get to actually explore the remains of a village that was already physically present since the first set of games in the series in a PLAYABLE STATE.
In short, it just all comes back to a circle.
How did you played Crossbell? It's annoying that it's not released here, while i know what's happened (wikia and video) i feel like i'm missing a lot of detail in CS3, or it'll probably be worse in CS4 and even worse in Hajimari that both focused more in Crossbell
There's an english translation of ZERO and AZURE even before Geofront Patch.
While the Zero translation was Azure already had good translation.
Though i might play them again to see the translation difference between the original fantranslation and the Geofront Patch.
....cont..
Trust me on this one... if you manage to find a way to play Crossbell arcs even with the help of ageofront patch, they're truly worth it.
You'll be in surprise that falcom, as a game dev and story writer, still continues to build the world of zemuria as a whole for 15 years.
@@emmaherrera9955 I already played Cold Steel and Sky those made Legend of Heroes my favorite videogames, so i trust falcom that Crossbell is awesome too ^^
@@guifire9747 Emulators, specifically PPSSPP
Just imagine is Lowe never died
He'd become an S Class Bracer I'm sure
레베 ㅠㅠ
何かアガットが亡くなったみたいだから止めて差し上げろ
エリカ博士に消されたのか（違う）
@@bglk1000 黎の軌跡3で故人かも()
oh..
空の軌跡にレーヴァ倒したあとの会話に流れたやつのアレンジ？
Looks like a mature Adol Christin.
Agate Crosner. Even their initials line up
What Hamel again?
It was also Joshua and and Karin's hometown where the Tragedy of Hamel took place
It's Joshua's vilage that got massacred just to start a war.
Play trails in the sky fc, sc and 3rd, the first of the trails series.
Hamel was a village that was destroyed by the Erebonian empire to justify the 100 days war. It has very few survivours.
and several months after the 100 days war was over, the shocking fact was revealed starting from those few survivors and eventually to Imperial Gov't.
Turns out it was war hawk of who ordered the armed men to attack Hamel.
Some of the officers of war hawk were noble faction people and they were concerned about their.. turfs.. getting unstable so they needed something to justify the war.
That's when Weissman whispered the name Hamel and introduced them some jaeger dropouts.
After the wars, Empire came to Liberl and suggested to make a peace because such news was very panicking even for them and they made a great loss during 100 days war thanks to Cassius Bright a colonel of Liberl Knight and a great strategist.
Liberl accepted it and eventually, noble military officers of Imperial war hawks, jaeger dropouts were executed, Hamel's name was erased from the map, and Hamel was "known" to be crushed by "landslide" which is a big, fat lie.
@@BananaCattes Keep in mind that it is a big-fat lie.
That's probably the best "reason" they can come up with considering the true story of Hamel's tragedy is like top-secret info of Erebonia Empire.
Think about it, one nation massacred her own people to make an "excuse" to cause a war against another place, and that nation who cause the tragedy overlooked that in exchange for executing those behind it.
Not something you can reveal for all the world to hear eh?
Cold steel 4 side quest : ghost of hamel
Everyone: Oh Hamel! It's so sad.
Me: Hey, Agate's looking good in Sen 3.
It's disappointing that apart from the odd mission, him and Tita were demoted to support characters
@@fierytigergaming8112 The worst part is: Why Tita can't fight on foot? since when did she need her robot to fight? She was fighting enforcer on foot when she was 12 with her canon
@@guifire9747 IDK, maybe the Orbal Gear III had the right updates in combat mechanics? (Bear in mind that around 5 years have bridged the gaps)
@@fierytigergaming8112 Yes, she's more effective on her Orbal Gear but still she's competent on foot ^^
The Orbal Gear is ALSO part of her charact. development...
Literally the first door you see in TRAILS IN THE SKY THE THIRD.
Currently playing Third, just so happens i just finished that part of the game..
So it must be that she studied over to Erebonia under one of Epstein's students to develop a far stronger ORBAL GEAR so she could show it to someone she's become bestfriend with during SKY Second Chapter, to show this friend how strong she had become.
i like the original version of hamel theme in trails in the sky sc it's much more powerful music.
That song is about the tragedy. This song is about the aftermath.
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