Cheers Dem, i got an ultrasonic last week, and did the same thing, it's satisfying watching all the dirt and grime of years of wear just lifting of the fixo-flex bracelet and watch parts ta lad.
Thanks Peter, "Was the center wheel usable?" you will see that in the assembling video ;-). "Is there a chance of jewels being loosened on the mainplate?" Yes, that's possible, but this has rarely happened to me. It is important to check the end shake of the wheels during assembly, so you can be sure that the jewels are in the right place. If this is not the case, they must be adjusted.
Hi Dimitri! So, with the temperatur of around 60-65c, is it safe to use ultrasonic cleaner like this, with solutions like Elma Suprol Rinse? Im not thinking directly in the cleaner, but water in the ultrasonic cleaner, then glass jars with the solution in the water..
Hello Watcheyes, if the watch parts are very dirty/rusty, I first put them in an ultrasonic bath, and after that in the cleaning machine. But if you don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, you can of course also clean it in your own ways by hand ect.
The biggest issue I face right now with my new ultrasonic cleaner are the liquids, I have bought ph2, ph13, another red liquid, alcohol, and this video shows another one that I don’t even have so I don’t know when to use what… 😮💨
Hi Dimitri just wondering how you dried the parts after the ultrasonic clean? I would assume if you didn’t dry each part there would be a chance of corrosion occurring if water was left on the movement parts after they were cleaned
If you blow them off then submerge in pure alcohol any water will disperse. Alcohol will evaporate from the parts quickly when removed. I am trying to find out if alcohol is ok with the fork, I know solvents can take the pallete fork stones out. Can I put the balance in the sonic too? Attached to the main plate.
@@Daveyboyz1978 did you find out? I have some parts with jewels which im not sure how to clean an I’ve also been told not to dip those in IPA since IPA can corrode away the glue that hold the jewels in place
@@hsvr I decided not to put the pallet fork in the sonic at all. The balance I did so attatched to the main plate. I figured it would be ok in soapy water followed by alcohol. I have seen them cleaned off of the mainplate just by dipping rather than in a sonic, they are very delicate. I had problems getting the train of wheels back in mine, they aren't moving freely and I don't know why. Its not the balance, that operates ok, i take it out, palette gork and pallet fork bridge on... feels ok. Get the wheels in and lined up but when its all assembled it feels locked up Sorry I can't tell you more, I am just an amateur at this game.
Thanks Dimitri, good vid. I see some watch makers don’t suggest ultrasonic cleaning delicate watch parts from inside the movement. It can damage them, crack jewels, lift jewels off pallet forks etc. I do use an ultrasonic cleaner, but this does worry me, what are your thoughts for the most delicate of watch parts? Cheers, Boyd
These notions have turned out to be myths. Even the big name parts cleaning machines have incorporated US into their regular wash cycles. And I would not put pallet forks or (loose) balance assemblies into any cleaning machine.
That was the best example of ultrasonic watch cleaning I have ever seen. Especially the bracelet and the watch stem sleeve. Thanks Dimitri!
Cheers Dem, i got an ultrasonic last week, and did the same thing, it's satisfying watching all the dirt and grime of years of wear just lifting of the fixo-flex bracelet and watch parts ta lad.
Nice to hear Dave, I'd say let the machine do the dirtier work :-)
Jewelry, pocket knives, watch parts, keys, toys, I’ve put everything in my (chinese brand) ultrasonic and its amazing.
Thanks DutchClawz, indeed amazing technology those ultrasonic cleaners :-)
Concise and educational as usual, thank you for sharing your time and skills....👏👏
Thanks Phillip! And as always, you're welcome!
Thank you for the video,will there be an assembly video of this watvh. Really looking forward to it!
Hello Dimitri, Great videos. I love the detail. Could you create a video of servicing a Valjoux 23? Thanks.
Good demonstration.
Was the center wheel usable? Is there a chance of jewels being loosened on the mainplate?
Thanks Peter, "Was the center wheel usable?" you will see that in the assembling video ;-). "Is there a chance of jewels being loosened on the mainplate?" Yes, that's possible, but this has rarely happened to me. It is important to check the end shake of the wheels during assembly, so you can be sure that the jewels are in the right place. If this is not the case, they must be adjusted.
@@therealwatchdoctor Thank you for the reply. I'm looking forward to the assembly video!
Hello, very nice video, thank you! Is it safe to use cheaper ultrasonic cleaners, except elma for watch parts, especially for jewells?
Hello Sfirakis, cheaper cleaners that can do no harm in my opinion, the effect will only be less powerful.
@@therealwatchdoctor Thanks
Waiting for you to upload the reassembly :;
Hi Dimitri! So, with the temperatur of around 60-65c, is it safe to use ultrasonic cleaner like this, with solutions like Elma Suprol Rinse? Im not thinking directly in the cleaner, but water in the ultrasonic cleaner, then glass jars with the solution in the water..
simple green and water works great as ultrasonic cleaning fluid
Good to know, thanks for your comment Jimf!
Would you recommend ultrasonic for watch parts?
Hello Watcheyes, if the watch parts are very dirty/rusty, I first put them in an ultrasonic bath, and after that in the cleaning machine. But if you don't have an ultrasonic cleaner, you can of course also clean it in your own ways by hand ect.
@@therealwatchdoctor what I have heard is that ultrasonic should not be used for watch parts, only the casing and wrist band etc. But I don't know.
Can you show how to clean the rest of the internals of the watch? Do you need to do anything different?
Hello, please can you advise me about your inserts, looks like a white plastic basket with plastic coated rack, where can one buy these? Thanks
I don’t have a mainspring winder… can an ultrasonic cleaner work if I take the cap off the barrel and not remove the spring?
Is it necessary to use distilled water when cleaning?
The biggest issue I face right now with my new ultrasonic cleaner are the liquids, I have bought ph2, ph13, another red liquid, alcohol, and this video shows another one that I don’t even have so I don’t know when to use what… 😮💨
Hi Dimitri just wondering how you dried the parts after the ultrasonic clean? I would assume if you didn’t dry each part there would be a chance of corrosion occurring if water was left on the movement parts after they were cleaned
If you blow them off then submerge in pure alcohol any water will disperse. Alcohol will evaporate from the parts quickly when removed.
I am trying to find out if alcohol is ok with the fork, I know solvents can take the pallete fork stones out.
Can I put the balance in the sonic too? Attached to the main plate.
@@Daveyboyz1978 legend!!! I knew someone would have worked it out. Cheers mate!!!
@@Daveyboyz1978 did you find out? I have some parts with jewels which im not sure how to clean an I’ve also been told not to dip those in IPA since IPA can corrode away the glue that hold the jewels in place
@@hsvr I decided not to put the pallet fork in the sonic at all. The balance I did so attatched to the main plate. I figured it would be ok in soapy water followed by alcohol.
I have seen them cleaned off of the mainplate just by dipping rather than in a sonic, they are very delicate.
I had problems getting the train of wheels back in mine, they aren't moving freely and I don't know why. Its not the balance, that operates ok, i take it out, palette gork and pallet fork bridge on... feels ok. Get the wheels in and lined up but when its all assembled it feels locked up
Sorry I can't tell you more, I am just an amateur at this game.
Can I ask how much the ultrasonic watch cleaning machine hope your response is highly appreciated..thank you from Philippines...
Great
Thanks Thameemun!
But would the water not rust those parts? I’m sure you need to use IPA solvent to displace the water after an ultrasonic water bath right?
Thanks Dimitri, good vid. I see some watch makers don’t suggest ultrasonic cleaning delicate watch parts from inside the movement. It can damage them, crack jewels, lift jewels off pallet forks etc. I do use an ultrasonic cleaner, but this does worry me, what are your thoughts for the most delicate of watch parts? Cheers, Boyd
These notions have turned out to be myths. Even the big name parts cleaning machines have incorporated US into their regular wash cycles. And I would not put pallet forks or (loose) balance assemblies into any cleaning machine.
How would you wash those parts with jewels if you dont have a ultra sonic cleaner?
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