X81 XJ12: The Bizarre Car Jaguar Were Forced To Build, Then Cancelled After A Year

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  • In today's video, we look at one of those weird pieces of automotive evolution. The X81 Jaguar XJ12 and Daimler Double Six were never supposed to be built, after Jaguar deliberately nerfed their own car - but why, and how did this come to be for such a short period of time?
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  • @cornishrider
    @cornishrider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    The Jaguar Dealership I worked at in Cornwall bought a batch of new old stock XJ40's several years after production (1997 ish) they were all odd spec including XJR, XJ12 and LWB Majestic. Suffice to say there was a healthy discount and our customers snapped them up in no time, real bargains!

    • @martinboulden3540
      @martinboulden3540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Was that down in Newlyn ?

    • @Treviscoe
      @Treviscoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@martinboulden3540 I'm guessing Falmouth (Riders).

    • @cornishrider
      @cornishrider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was Riders Jaguar Falmouth

    • @jimmorrison8225
      @jimmorrison8225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bloody marvelous

    • @earldominguez3938
      @earldominguez3938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I LOVE MY XJ6 MAJESTIC JAGUAR..will keep it .always .inteL may and ..

  • @markpirateuk
    @markpirateuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Having briefly owned a double six, I did chuckle at the 16 mpg the trip computer reported. I averaged 12mpg!
    I still think the XJ is one of the best looking saloon cars ever made, my last 4.2 was actually very reliable and had 250k on the clock when I sold it!

  • @zounds010
    @zounds010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    did you know this wasn't the first V12 XJ40? In 1990, Lister started offering a V12 conversion for the XJ40. You could get the same engine options they offered for the XJ-S (from a 450 bhp 5.3, a 6.0, 7.0 NA and a 7.0 with superchargers and 600 bhp). There's a test report in Jaguar Quarterly, vol 2 nr 3 which shows the Lister prototype/demo car, a standard-looking quad-headlamp XJ40 with Lister wheels and a V12 badge as the only indicators this was something special. It had the 7.0 litre NA engine (500bhp, 500 lbft), and a 5-speed manual from Getrag.

  • @fastdays_1
    @fastdays_1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    For me it's the opposite: I really like these squared headlights while I don't like the 4 rounds. The XJ40 was born with the squared headlights and that's how it should be: with the 4 rounds it seems like an afterthought.

    • @almal378
      @almal378 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that the later XJR 4.0 looks much better with square headlights than the 3.6 with quad round lights and is the best looking of all XJ40s. Incidentally, I feel the same way about the Bentley Mulsanne/Eight/Turbo R.

    • @seandog94
      @seandog94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it actually got the 40 moniker as an homage to volvo 140/240 where they stole the headlight design from

    • @ThePaulv12
      @ThePaulv12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah the 4 headlight front on these is hideous IMO.

    • @igordewit7357
      @igordewit7357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep...square lights,best looking XJ model EVER,in my opinion. Shame about the digital 80s crap dash ..but still wanna buy one. Red one,with a tan interior;✋😁Sold!!

    • @fastdays_1
      @fastdays_1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@igordewit7357 the XJ with the square headlights had the analogue dash from 1990 onwards, so you can enjoy the car without the crappy digital dash..

  • @paul1978g
    @paul1978g 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    "Grace, Space & Pace". This lovely thing certainly lived up to that mantra. Incidentally, that same glorious 6.0 V12 found it's way into the later XJS, and frankly it's the best version of XJS they ever made. Significantly better from a reliability standpoint, and usefully more potent than the 5.3. There are quite a few days when I miss working for Jaguar, and seeing this takes me back to where I started.

    • @wads80z
      @wads80z 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a lot of space inside an XJS! A Clio has more room for driver & passenger 😂

    • @klwthe3rd
      @klwthe3rd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I never realized the 6.0 liter V12 was that much better than the 5.3 V12. Why is that?

  • @ProjektAgnetha
    @ProjektAgnetha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Just enough room for a glass of port and a pork pie" - absolutely spot on social commentary!

  • @64bakes
    @64bakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I've always loved these cars and am a bit of a fan of the square headlights, although unpopular with most people which I can understand. I think my Dad used to have either a very late Series 2 or early Series 3 XJ12. He bought it at an auction in the early Eighties with one cylinder head warped from overheating, so was sold as a non runner, but in otherwise very good condition. Managed to find a second hand replacement head for sale in the local classifieds and fitted it. Still one of his favourite cars to this day. Sadly on his wages back then, he had to let it go as he couldn't afford to run the thing!

    • @raistaparta
      @raistaparta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I always liked these square headlights. They seemed to give the Jaguar a meaner look, especially with the tinted tail lights.

    • @lewis72
      @lewis72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sovereign & Daimler had square lamps, the twin lamps was on the poverty XJ6 & Jaguar XJ12.

    • @jfv65
      @jfv65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lewis72 so, basically buy the Daimler and swap in the 4 headlight setup of the Jag. Rhatcqay you'd have all the Daimler posh and snobbery but also the nicer quad headline front.

  • @bjarneanmarkrud8187
    @bjarneanmarkrud8187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I think the square headlights have aged rather well, and i'm saying this as a x300 owner! with some bilstein b6 dampers and a rear sway bar this would probably make a great drivers car!

    • @imnotahealthandsafetyperso4889
      @imnotahealthandsafetyperso4889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When your mot is out fancy selling your x300 😂

    • @bjarneanmarkrud8187
      @bjarneanmarkrud8187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@imnotahealthandsafetyperso4889 its an XJR6, so as long as i'm allowed to drive it in my city, i'm not selling it ;)

    • @imnotahealthandsafetyperso4889
      @imnotahealthandsafetyperso4889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bjarneanmarkrud8187 with our governments should think there be stoped within the next year most parts of London is going that way lol

    • @smokesgtp
      @smokesgtp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I always liked the square lights on this body.

    • @rossbrumby1957
      @rossbrumby1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had an 88 sovereign 3.6 and then a 90 xj6 4.0 and the lights on the sovereign looked way more modern and better. Hated the garbage ford style tibbe keys on the xj6- and the plastic clips kept breaking on the door lock linkages which wasn't an issue on the older model.

  • @sotirisbakaimis3276
    @sotirisbakaimis3276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Old Jag.....and I like the headlights!!! There is a gigantic amount of style & elegance in this model!!!

  • @Fred8000W
    @Fred8000W 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Had one for 4 years. Loved every minute of it. Great straight 6, fantastic interior, beautiful white and gold exterior. They have a great presence on the road even still. Must disagree wutb the headlights comments. The square fit the shape of the front so very well.

    • @laowhy86
      @laowhy86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lights look great! Was the 6 enough power?

    • @Fred8000W
      @Fred8000W 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laowhy86 in 1999 is was enough to see of the GTIs, and today it'll be nothing like modern turbos, but it never felt short on power, sound, or soul

    • @bigbeardjags1276
      @bigbeardjags1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laowhy86 the 3.6 i had a few about 135mph with pedal in the floor, but still more than enough power, the v12 is simply immense

    • @yeahme8367
      @yeahme8367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laowhy86 omg amazing seeing you here

  • @darrenwilson8042
    @darrenwilson8042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "gearbox is in sport mode lets see what she'll do......." 6mpg is my guess lol

  • @nicolasansom2681
    @nicolasansom2681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had a 4litre Sovereign XJ40 and it made me feel like a million dollars

  • @alanhunter2009
    @alanhunter2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Owned the Jag version for 12 years, purchasing it at 18 months old. Probably my favourite car but had to sell it because I changed my job and needed something more reliable. Water ingress, self-levelling suspension needed constant topping up, radiator leak, air con broken, oil leak etc. etc. The person that bought it had intended to do it up but after seeing it on a ramp for over a year, it disappeared from his driveway. I reckon a lost cause.

  • @phil955i
    @phil955i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    True story: I used to do a fair bit of work for Lucas in Birmingham as a contractor throughout the 90s & they'd very often have cars in the workshop before they were officially released. Being a petrol head I'd always have a bit of a sniff around them & in the early 90s they had a pre-production XJ40 V12 in the workshop. When I looked inside I noticed a big red emergency stop button on the centre console. When I questioned it they told me that someone had it out on test & on the approach to a roundabout it had gone full throttle & kicked down, it was as much as he could do to hold it back on the brakes before scrabbling to turn the ignition key off. So they fitted the button until they could diagnose the cause. Eventually they traced it to house burglar alarms causing radio interference with the Lucas ECU. I also remember seeing rows of their instrument clusters under test in climatic cycling chambers.

    • @notroll1279
      @notroll1279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That sounds reassuring!

    • @asdreww
      @asdreww 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey, that's super cool. Any more stories? :D

    • @phil955i
      @phil955i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@asdreww they also had a drive in chamber, brick built in the 1950s, about the size of a house garage, inside it they could simulate Arctic or desert temperatures (minus 40 to plus 70 degrees C). They'd park cars in there & test ignition components by seeing if the car would start at those extremes of temperature. I would have to don an Arctic suit & go in there at minus 40 to make adjustments as I worked for the company that supplied all their climatic testing equipment at the time.

    • @20PhantoM07
      @20PhantoM07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You sound interesting and I suspect you also own a Triumph.. A man of culture!

    • @phil955i
      @phil955i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@20PhantoM07 ha ha no, an old Mercedes. But I wouldn't mind a 2000 or 2500, or even a Stag 👍

  • @BillyBoy444
    @BillyBoy444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I actually prefer the square headlights on an XJ40 because the twin ones look a bit like some aftermarket add on...... the XJ12 of that model had sports suspension and so drove a bit sharper than the Daimler Double Six version...... that car you tested seems to have XJ12 wheels fitted as the Daimler ones were different.... Clarkson's 1993 review of the XJ12 is still on TH-cam somewhere.

    • @canyellafina7162
      @canyellafina7162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly! The twin headlights are badly finished. The bezels aren't well designed. When the car paint is light it's less noticeable but when it's dark, the "aftermarket" feeling you mention is much more noticeable.

    • @saymyname218
      @saymyname218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the square lights were only fitted on the high end Jags.

  • @richardhunt1384
    @richardhunt1384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A Harry Metcalf conversation then to a manual box allowing you to make full use of that fantastic engine.
    Plus the rather rare Vauxhall Carlton Estate you drive past (7:10- 7:13) is quite interesting as well.

  • @TheDarkPhoenix23
    @TheDarkPhoenix23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not a bad video, but a few points to clarify.
    1.) The V12 was done at the behest of Ford management to make the existing XJ40 car relevant in the luxury car market, as it was surpassed by all of it's rivals at the time.
    2.) The round headlights were found on all US cars until the 90 model year due to headlight legislation at the time, and lower spec cars with the exception being the "sport" model XJ40.
    3.) XJ40 was in fact created to not accept a V configured engine. This was largely due in part to rumors at the time of having the Rover 3.5 V8 thrust on them, to which Jaguar wanted no parts of such a "common" engine in their machines.
    4.) Since the car you're driving is either a 93 or 94, the self leveling system was gone by then. They were problematic as they were tied into the braking system and used the mineral oil used in the braking system to level the rear shocks. If you were unfortunate enough to spring a leak, you were also unfortunate enough to lose your brakes.
    5.) The slab sidedness of the car was in vogue at the time the car was created (the 70's). The car was due to be the replacement for the Series II Jaguar, but after some testing it was determined that a longer gestation period was needed, with more of a focus on quality. Hence the welcoming of Series lll; a Series ll tweaked by Pininfarina.
    I've always found it odd that these were the ugly step child of the Jaguar purists for so long, as they were appropriate for their time. Since they were not collectible for so long, they were often crushed when they started to show their "aches and pains" so to speak. I'm fortunate to have a 94 XJ40 Vanden Plas (US car obviously) and it garners looks wherever I take it. It's the very last real Jaguar (Ford bought Jag in 89 - "Ford originally paid $2.5 billion for Jaguar, in 1989, and $3.3 billion for Land Rover, in 1999") and the last to have any input from the founder himself, William Lyons. It's replacement, the X300 was a retro inspired Ford design with XJ40/81 running gear and interiors, so they couldn't have been all that bad.

    • @bikerylon
      @bikerylon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Re 4. point. Brakes and suspension fliud system was separetaed on 1990MY.

  • @alanwilliams1223
    @alanwilliams1223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    During the mid 90's I owned a G Reg 5.3 V12 Jaguar 3 Series. Boy did it drink petrol, 10-15mpg.

  • @edword7195
    @edword7195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the square lights were not just Daimler but also on the range toping Jaguar xj40 sovereigns

  • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
    @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The XJ40/81 is one of my favourite XJs. Its clean looks make the proportions shine.

  • @tommorides8086
    @tommorides8086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Proper Browns Lane Jaguar.

  • @milesborg9812
    @milesborg9812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Owned a gorgeous sage green Daimler 4.0 (sov XJ40) 1991 in great condition a few years back. Loved the thing. Had to sell as I had trouble storing it (it's quite a long car)! I didn't mind the square headlights. I can confirm the boot was huge!

  • @ImmortanDan
    @ImmortanDan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I sort of recoiled when I realized that this video was uploaded 3 days ago. I just dipped back into looking at the old Jags, and stumbled on this channel pretty much by accident. That said, you're doing a great job reviewing these!

  • @raistaparta
    @raistaparta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I saw one of these regularly around town when I was a kid and never realized how rare it was. It always fascinated me though.

  • @africanotomotiv
    @africanotomotiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I couldn't help but notice the Jimny which kept bombing into the frame from 7:30.
    Splendid video James.
    Thank you.

  • @jphaesen3860
    @jphaesen3860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Jay, you confirm to the letter a story I heard from a quality engineer of Girling brakes in 1988 who visited me at the rear axes plant of Volvo in Belgium. He had worked for Jaguar and also informed us that, instead of using 3D-measurement, mechanics had to just test pistons if they would slide into the cylinders to obtain a decent set to assemble an engine.
    But still, I look upon these cars as timeless icons. Good to see you keep the memory alive.

  • @NewtonInDaHouseYo
    @NewtonInDaHouseYo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That’s a beautiful interior spec. Very nice!

  • @iantownsend500
    @iantownsend500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’ve watched that Clarkson XJ 12 videos so many times. Both the 5.3 & the 6.0 litre. The 5.3 rides like it’s on a cloud & the 6 litre as Clarkson said is a proper sports saloon

  • @garethhanna9173
    @garethhanna9173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The XJ40 has managed the XJS trick of being almost universally hated as a travesty of design compared to its predecessors to today being a bit of a classic. There's a definite hint of 80's bad boy about them and they have a lovely stance on the road, relatively simple mechanicals means they are easy to keep on the road and Ford made sure the late models were built like tanks.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If anything, it was too conservative by far, should have abandoned any pretence of traditionality.

    • @91drunkenmonkey
      @91drunkenmonkey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For and built like tanks ?? Really ???....easy mechanics??? Really???

    • @alexandrecouture2462
      @alexandrecouture2462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@91drunkenmonkey It was not a Ford at all, but Ford did work with Jag to fix quite a few bugs and problems of the early XJ40 to make it a more reliable car.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@91drunkenmonkey Ford massively improved Jag build quality, the X308 was a huge leap from the X300 which was itself a much stronger, more rigid revision of the XJ40. Bear in mind Browns Lane was using the same tooling it had used to build XK120s, and it wasn't new then either...

    • @alexandrecouture2462
      @alexandrecouture2462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I love my 91 XJ40 Sovereign, with its rectangle headlights. Yes it is a bit of an odd duck, but it makes it original and completely unlike anything else on the road.

  • @paulredding5864
    @paulredding5864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful car and overall design now looks better to me. Had to smile when you put your foot down, was thinking "half a gallon, one gallon" as she pulled away 😎

  • @MaxamilionB
    @MaxamilionB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first own car was a XJ12/XJ81, i still have it and for me it aged so well, the morocco red makes it even better looking for me. I you also have one, keep it!

  • @markscars1069
    @markscars1069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I owned one as my second ever car back in 1999 to around 2001 and I bought it after selling a Fiat Cinq Sporting. Swapped a 1.1 litre for a six litre. It was magnificent. That car (L858 BPB) took me all over Europe and it’s one of only two cars I ever regret selling. Worst issues I had were the rear suspension for which we removed the self levelling, and the header tanks, which always split. Plus the oil level used to move around and you had to be careful that you didn’t overfill it.
    But at 120mph around the A99 down in Munich, it was imperious.
    And oh yes, the cruise control. They fail sometimes. The rubber grommet on the throttle body degrades and disappears and the throttle is engineered to close (i.e. the grommet forces the throttle to hold open when you set the cruise).

  • @TheEarlofK
    @TheEarlofK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I did not know that this model existed, a true rarity, although I did know about the Series 3 being kept-on with the V12 engine.
    My father bought one of the first Jaguar XJ6s, and even then I was curious about the 'dimpled grill' version, soon discovering in the annual Daily Express 'Motor Show guide' that it was a Daimler; it was then regarded as the ultimate one-upmanship, bought by Barristers and Surgeons to differentiate themselves from the Jaguar-owning hoi polloi.

  • @comeberza
    @comeberza 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I comment in three quarter of your videos saying I want the car, but I truly do. The selection of cars featured in the channel is amazing and the mini series very well chosen

  • @rokmulec498
    @rokmulec498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Packs quite a punch with the gearbox in sport mode. Awesome car this Jag, in spite of ageing badly. Nice sound. Thanks for this video.

  • @zoerandall-rea4459
    @zoerandall-rea4459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jay, great review mate. My husband has a 4 L, straight 6 XJ40. Had for many years now. Fab motor. Thanks again.

  • @alexandrecouture2462
    @alexandrecouture2462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! I have a 91 Sovereign XJ6 XJ40 and I love it! Its first owner had it from 1991 to 2017, so he must have liked it too.

  • @E7DMG
    @E7DMG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I owned and ran a 93 V12 6.0L. Bought ex lease with 75k and ran it up to 145k over 3 years - fantastic car had a TWR body kit in Racing green.

  • @peterodonnell5820
    @peterodonnell5820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never had a saloon model after a 1966 Mark II 3.8 but I did own two V12 XJS' in 200 to 2005 as everyday cars. The first was a 5.3 facelift model from 1990 and the second was from two years later and had the 6.0 litre engine with the four speed gearbox. The difference between the two cars was really marked, the build quality was much better on the later car and the four speed box made driving lots of fun in all circumstances - you can't beat a V12 for smooth torque at any speed. I didn't test the claimed 147 mph top speed but I did 125 - 130 on sneaky late night runs in the country and it just ate up the road. Of course running costs can be hair raising, I agree with the comment in the video that the V12 engine is pretty solid but the ancillary systems like ABS and air conditioning did need work. I had them both serviced every 9000 miles by non-dealer specialists and a bill of less than £800 felt like a win. I averaged 13.5 mpg on the 5.3 litre and 14mpg on the 6.0 litre but owning them was a great experience, especially the 6.0 litre model.

  • @fredericksaxton3991
    @fredericksaxton3991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a S3 Daimler Double Six. Best and most comfortable car I ever had.
    2 years later in 1995 I bought a rear ended 1991 XJ40 Sport, which was the Top of the range in those days, not the entry level cars the S5 X300 series cars became.
    I had the back end repaired and did 200,000 miles on it, I sold it to a friend who had it a further 7 years.
    That was bright red with square headlights. FABULOUS Car...!

  • @andrewward1887
    @andrewward1887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I worked for a jaguar dealer from 91 to 2004 they were good cars ,the V12 sedan was a great touring cars I commute 300 miles a week in a 1990 xj6 drives like a champ.

  • @robertmills6772
    @robertmills6772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderfully done! And I've always been keen on those 80s and 90s Jaguars.

  • @BibtheBoulder
    @BibtheBoulder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The thing I like most about the XJ range (until its reincarnation in 2010) is the fact they have character. Something generally missing from German cars....

  • @kettle_of_chris
    @kettle_of_chris 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed this video! Learned something new about a specific Jag Style that I've always liked.

  • @paolofabregar7389
    @paolofabregar7389 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    xj40 vanden owner here thank you for making this video! i really enjoy seeing this car on youtube

  • @rbnootan101
    @rbnootan101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great show, really enjoy these videos.

  • @jonathanwright9269
    @jonathanwright9269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rectangular headlights every time for me personally.....round ones look like they put a panel in front of the rectangular lights with two holes in it. XJ40 model is really growing on me. Good video btw.

  • @canyellafina7162
    @canyellafina7162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:46 Jim Randle (Jaguar's engineering director) was the man who "lied" to British Leyland to avoid installing the Buick-Rover V8. He left Jaguar in 1991 due to discrepancies with Ford's new management. Also, he was not a fan of the V12 installation but of a turbocharged version of the AJ6.
    Rest in peace.
    (1938 - † 2019)

  • @leeevernden
    @leeevernden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That is a particularly good looking example, I agree they don't feel as special as the series 3 but I bet they are easier to live with, any late model XJ40 is a very refined car compared to the early ones thanks mainly to Fords influence.

    • @piercehawke8021
      @piercehawke8021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of the best things that happened to Aston Martin, Jaguar and Land Rover; was when Ford did own them and, said corporation apparently fixed a LOT of especially reliability issues on at least those models just prior to the Dearborn era

  • @exgtt2061
    @exgtt2061 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow you tracked down a 6.0! Great vid Jay! This engine and gearbox found its way into the last XJS too

  • @paulie-Gualtieri.
    @paulie-Gualtieri. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent I've always loved the XJ40 great cars in the right hands.

  • @imranhashmi6172
    @imranhashmi6172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir it is a pleasure to listen to your perfect enunciation. Keep it up.

  • @neilwalsh4058
    @neilwalsh4058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Best looking XJ for me was the 40, although I do like a top spec V12 series. Had a few 40's & a series 3 XJ12 when they were available for a grand or less in most cases, and was offered a tidy clean Jaguar version of the 6 litre XJ40 for about £1100 around 15 years
    ago.
    Think Micks optimistic valuing this at 20k but that might be because I had them at gutter money back in the day.

    • @phil955i
      @phil955i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha ha yes I bought a series 3 XJ6 for a grand in 1991, it was only 10 years old at the time

    • @judgementalTX
      @judgementalTX ปีที่แล้ว

      I've seen lower miles go for 8k at auction recently. 20k is top money for a series 1 or 2 XJ12, DD6

  • @markdolman9056
    @markdolman9056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I exchanged a year old xjs 4.0 for and xj12 brand new, it cost 47k and I sold it 2 years later for 13k with only 8k miles on it. The most deprecating car I have ever owned but I loved it. The things you do when you are young and buy with your ❤️

  • @skelejp9982
    @skelejp9982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Engine sure sounds great !
    Thank You for another interesting review.
    These XJs are so low, there is no other Super Sedan Brand that offers that kind of unique driving experience.

  • @johnparry4861
    @johnparry4861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the optional nodding dog in the rear parcel shelf. Subjective I know, but personally I prefer thee large single headlights. It really suits the elegance of the Damilar model.

  • @bentdog8917
    @bentdog8917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a lovely old thing. Classy.

  • @CUTproductionsLtd
    @CUTproductionsLtd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with others, the square headlights are elegant and much better than the odd quad round ones, which sit strangely in such a squared off design, they weren't meant for. I think these fine cars are just beginning to exit the scrap curve and will appreciate more in the surviving prices. I had a 4.0 litre Sovereign, red with cream leather/red piping and electric sunroof, when it was just around 6-7 years old and there was rust developing even then. That was easily sorted though and the AJ6 straight DOHC was almost bullet proof and silky smooth, not losing a quart of oil or water, between services in the 250K miles I took it to - much better than the XK engine of the 1992 XJ6 I had before it. You really turned heads in those days and they drove much finer than the contemporary Rolls I tried. I think they have aged much better than the S-Type or the later X300 since there is little conspicuously retro about them. They sure look classy gliding along now to me and those seats are pure quality, and were just as nice to sit in, and I badly am hankering for another but it would break my heart to have a knackered old one that I see around, when I so fondly remember mine which was quite new at the time. I used to take mine for servicing to Creamers of Kensington, where the Queen Mother had her cars serviced and they put Jaguar Brown's Lane cloths over the wings and then gave you a day hotel/luxury sauna pass whilst you waited, as it were - very pricey but worth it!

  • @cornishrider
    @cornishrider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely Alloys, those are Forged were also part of the rare Sports Pack option (inc different suspension) you could order, a manual XJ6 4.0 Sports Pack was a rare and fine car, once drove one that was optioned up to virtually Sovereign spec, the buyer came out of a BMW e34 535 manual and was delighted!

  • @davidbrooks187
    @davidbrooks187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video & very informative. The jagV12 is majestic 🇬🇧👍

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting car. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

  • @areyouundoingthatorwhat9181
    @areyouundoingthatorwhat9181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My pal let's me keep a couple of my cars in his showroom,about a year ago while there getting my Capri out he had one of these in metallic red with cream trim in the showroom between two of my cars,A 6.0 litre,with 20K miles and absolutely properly immaculate( he mentioned that the spotless condition was as it arrived not even needing a valet!),I'm sure but not positive that it was on an M plate,though.I don't really take pictures of cars,even exotics but I have a couple of the Daimler,it was that stunning! He took me for a blast up the nearest dual carriageway in it and,the way it seemed to effortlessly hustle up to stupid speed with little sensation of anything happening is strangely odd! It was sold retail to another motor trader from the west country with an apparent massive Jag obsession before he had even advertised it and from what I gather the guy was a hoarder of jaguar Daimler stuff with a large collection.

  • @omostim2385
    @omostim2385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We had an xj40 vanden plas and later a x308 xjr. I think I’ve only seen xj40 v12 once and it wasn’t running. I didn’t realize how rare they were and all of the extra engineering that went into putting a v12 in it. There was a v12 version of the x300 also which I think is pretty rare

    • @klwthe3rd
      @klwthe3rd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are super rare! If you find one, buy it! I know i will.

  • @davidking9707
    @davidking9707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That made a great noise when you gave it some beans. I had an X300 3.2. The J gate is wonderful to use.

  • @bradfordbarrettluckotheIrish
    @bradfordbarrettluckotheIrish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding review mate

  • @LennonRamone
    @LennonRamone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s funny, I actually prefer the look of the flush headlights to the round ones, but each to his own 🤷‍♂️.

    • @chrisbaker121924
      @chrisbaker121924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The square ones suit the car so much better.

  • @thejamesieboy
    @thejamesieboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I never liked the round lights on the XJ40 style XJ's, they look like an after thought. On the early series 1,,and 3 they work as the bonnet is sculptured to accentuate them, on the XJ0 it just looks like a piece of metal or plastic with two holes drilled to make a round light version. I am saying that with my first XJ40 being a round light one, my other two both being Daimlers had the square ones. I have also had a X300 and currently a Daimler X308 with again round lights that look good as the bonnet was redesigned to be more like the older series ones. I really like the styling of the XJ40 and often tempted to go back to one.

  • @deadmansfire
    @deadmansfire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, Jay

  • @dxutube
    @dxutube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:49 I did notice anyway :)

  • @whosyourmate8292
    @whosyourmate8292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cheers Mick 👍

    • @klwthe3rd
      @klwthe3rd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I want Mick's contact info so i can buy all these rare Jags!

  • @bond0666
    @bond0666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got an xj40, f reg, and it's one of most reliable cars ever, and totally comfortable

  • @danieleregoli812
    @danieleregoli812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting conversation, since I both own a 3.6 XJ40, as well as a V8 Rover P6, so both lovely cars to drive, and honestly I do not at all find the straight 6 any less enticing or sexy than the V8. Jag's straight six is a JOY to have under the bonnet when you drive, and also quite punchy and responsive as well as very refined and smooth....and these I suspect are the very reasons why it took them so long to install the V12 in the made-to-be-narrow bonnet of the XJ40. Really, It's not clear to me how one could 'miss' the 12 cylinder when the six was already such an excellent choice, and so sublime, especially in the later 4.0 guise... as well as more reliable, easier to maintain and CONSIDERABLY LESS thirsty than the 6litre V12.

    • @varmastiko2908
      @varmastiko2908 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It must have been a numbers thing only, for those customers who had to have the 'best' despite it making no clear difference. What the 6.0 V12 did do though, was to allow a 155 mph top speed which until then had been a German monopoly.

    • @danieleregoli812
      @danieleregoli812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@varmastiko2908 True, I agree, it was very much both a prestige, as well as a 'numbers' thing, because in actual fact the straight six was overall a much better option for 99.9% of the customers. Indeed all V12 models have a special aura about them.

  • @eyesofisabelofficial
    @eyesofisabelofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How can one compare an XJ12 with a Golf R ?!. This mindset has ruined luxury cars and turned them into low profile tire shod, firm seated back breaking, performance saloons competing with sports cars.

  • @DavidE-rr9vx
    @DavidE-rr9vx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I've got the Jag version and it's fantastic car. Comfortable with very respectable performance even for today. The economy is just the same as a petrol Range Rover, but you don't buy one and watch the fuel consumption. Just drive it and enjoy it while we still can.

  • @scottstrails9369
    @scottstrails9369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a few of these in the car job..great cars..there were a couple S3 V12 on run out brand new as late as 95/6

  • @skylined5534
    @skylined5534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Growing up this series of Jag/Daimler was a reasonably common site in the 80s and 90s but only now looking at them do I realise just how much presence these have and they're handsome old beasts to boot.
    Edit:
    7:10 clean looking Carlton Estate in one of the best colours!

  • @Stag2997
    @Stag2997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe they were called The XJ81,
    Not the X81.
    The X300 generation was effectively a rebodied and improved XJ40. The V12 in those is similar but the interiors are that little bit nicer, even if they both look similar inside.
    Nice to see a V12 Jag being reviewed

  • @Teeveepicksures
    @Teeveepicksures 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the 80's as a kid I thought the square headlights were ugly. Now they seem timeless. Absolutely classic lines that imo were the last beautiful Jags ever built.

  • @francis2811
    @francis2811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Supercharged XJ is the most thrilling car I've ever driven!

  • @veronpalani5525
    @veronpalani5525 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content 👌

  • @3ducs
    @3ducs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A spare battery in the boot? That always boosts confidence. See what I did there?

  • @jayhkjay
    @jayhkjay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This brought back fond memories. I owned a couple of these Daimler Double Sixes... a 1993 and a 1994... back in the early-mid 2000s. They were cheap cars to buy back then here in Hong Kong... I got the 1993 for only HKD 15k (about UKP 1500 at today's exchange rate), and the 1994 with only around 40,000km on the clock in excellent condition was only HKD 20k (UKP 2k)! I exported the early one to New Zealand, and ended up losing a bit on it after the shipping, while I sold on the 1994 for a 50% profit... ignoring the continuous expensive bills to keep it on the road. For a luxury car that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to keep on the road, my preference now is for Mercedes S series.

    • @DomDOMT
      @DomDOMT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems like a bittersweet tho. I just came in as I am looking to import a Jag to Hong Kong but Environment Department is doing shit.
      Anyway how much are the bills needed to upkeep these V12s? Can I bore the engines for engine head swap?

  • @dxutube
    @dxutube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:12 Carlton!

  • @J4cko999
    @J4cko999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very enjoyable, thanks !

  • @daviddunmore8415
    @daviddunmore8415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to have an early 3.6 XJ40 Sovereign. Lovely care, but the 'self levelling' rear suspension was a pain in the rear!. The only other gripe was the weird Metric wheels. Lovely old thing though, but a tad thirty - Averaged 18/20mpg with a motorway cruising best of a shade over 24.

  • @johang7498
    @johang7498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jaaaag-times, they're the best! After the launch of the more timeless or classic looking X300-models in 1994, the XJ40 suddenly looked very dated to me; only now can i see its distinctive charm.

  • @miked7121
    @miked7121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My parents had a ‘94 XJ12 that they bought new. I remember my Dad was going to get the inline 6 Vanden Plas but he didn’t like the fluted grill so they got the XJ12.

  • @phillipsharpe6459
    @phillipsharpe6459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought my first jaguar, a 2.0d xe portfolio, and i must admit i love it , wafts along well, sport mode is fast enough for me , and average of 43 mpg , £20 road tax ,what's not to like, 😁👍

    • @worthlessdollar1
      @worthlessdollar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's always a joy to see an old Jag that's well looked after and still on the road. There's a hint of a Spitfire about them.

  • @RudiRednoseChannel
    @RudiRednoseChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss my JAG ! Merry X-mas, greeetings from NRW

  • @SabotsLibres
    @SabotsLibres 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That V12 is best mated to a manual box (see Harry Metcalf's beautiful coupé...)

  • @richardprice7763
    @richardprice7763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always liked the black rear light housings on these XJ40 Daimlers compared to the reddish pink ones on the Jaguars...

  • @dragonflyquyn898
    @dragonflyquyn898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drove a 1990 4.0 L Sovereign....comfortable fast and fuel ⛽️ efficient almost bulletproof 🤩

  • @skaraborgcraft
    @skaraborgcraft 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember driving a later XJ40 with the supercharged V8, and was pretty much impressed that such a huge chunk of car took off the way it did. Great fun for a big car.....still thisrty with a heavy foot, but normal for any car with this weight and HP.

  • @aliengoth
    @aliengoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you could combine xj40 performance with Series 3 handling and body you have a perfect car

  • @jimmyfarley5581
    @jimmyfarley5581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch your videos with utter enjoyment. You have that natural ability to be able to describe the car you're driving in such a way that I want to buy it. Your ability to describe a car and emotionally connect it with the viewer is remarkable. Remarkable until I viewed the Clarkson review of the V12 Aston Martin Vantage. You're good but Clarkson is on a different level. The camera angles. The music. The delivery. A video produced that brings me to tears! So much emotion. Clarkson tells you all you need to know without speaking. Truly wonderful. Incredible. I watch you because you're really good. I watch Clarkson because I'm connected emotionally. You must admit that when Clarkson tries he's really fucking good.

  • @guinnessharvey4476
    @guinnessharvey4476 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I suppose it’s all subjective. I view this as peak Jag. The square lights and this x40 platform to my eyes are gorgeous

  • @akr01364
    @akr01364 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A friend of mine here in the US has the Knowles WIlkins rehabbed version of the Jag of I believe near this iteration. When having it done before the pandemic his, similar to my 6'2" frame meant having a custom chair made that is about three inches lower to the floor than the standard car. It's the only steel body XJ I've been able to honestly drive.

  • @jo_clarke1960
    @jo_clarke1960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the vid, I knew there was a V12 is these somewhere. Got to say the Series 3 is the better looking. Also that GM auto dissent get the praise it deserves, when it came in the late 80's it felt head and shoulders above anything else. I had a 4 speed auto Ford at the time and the box was good however, with the "Sport & Winter" mode to boot, it was a different level and was used in so many cars of the day. Probably on the list of "Good Things", GM did...🤔

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seems batter as a used buy than a new one in it's day. The looks were, shall we say, a little controversial at the time. Otherwise a very worthwhile update of the series 3.

  • @fretlessfender
    @fretlessfender 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stumbled across your channel, subscibed!