in Fates, characters would be like "Why didn't you choose our side!", like whiny children playing games. But here, many characters say "It's fine, this is war and we all have our reasons for choosing different sides".
@@lucinae8510 That doesn't make much sense. First off, I don't think many of the battle conversations in Fates go like that at all, I can't personally even remember a single one like that. That said, I'm sure they exist...but why is that a bad thing? If your "real" family went back to the obviously corrupt Nohr, to seemingly fight against you, even after seeing the evil they cause, asking why they did so is not whiny or childish in the slightest. And seeing Corrin join his "real" family who he has known for like, a few days, and leaving behind the people who raised and loved him, is also cause for asking why he left them.
@@bnhearyza4767 Where I disagree is that it makes a lot of sense for most characters to turn their back on their homelands because of their own stories and character. Fates had that shoehorned into their plot. I'll run through the Blue Lions because it's the quickest and easiest to explain (outside of Ingrid because she's the only one who makes no sense to turn on her homeland). Felix - Refuses to serve under Dimitri who he views as a murderous sociopath and is already annoyed about how his brother has become a martyr. Sylvain - Openly has disgust for the existance of a class system based on crests due to his own family and Edelgard is the one who is trying to remove that class system. Annette - Father abandoned her because of "duty" and reconciliation never happens (the one thing really tying her down to Faerghus). A bit weak but still a viable reason. Mercedes - Her brother is alive and working for Edelgard. Plus, Mercedes was actually born in Adrestia. Ashe - Hey, remember when we killed your adoptive father and it turned out that the church really was just a controlling entity that needed to suppress anyone who didn't bow to their absolute religious rule? Besides, Ashe is just a commoner at the end of the day and knows that nobility can turn and oppress the common-man if they decide to. Outside of Ingrid, the Blue Lions have their own personal conflict with Faerghus and potential reasons for leaving it (Ashe and Felix are the biggest victors here). Same goes for the other houses, especially the Golden Deer since that's just politics at play.
@@LifeAdmiral It’s been like five months. But a thing I’ll add about Ingrid is that she could be in the same boat as Sylvain. But honestly there’s no dialogue that suggests that she hates the crest system like Sylvain. From what I read, she joins could have joined because she has reforming ideals about being some loyal knight because of a Glenn and also her valued crest. These aren’t definitive but it’s here to try and ease a way of thinking of a reason for Ingrid to be joining you on Crimson Flower.
@@FilthyCasualty the best way to rationalize Ingrid being with edelgard on the crimson flower route would be that it would make it easier on her family since she tells you that her family is struggling financially in her supports
A friendship breaking apart? Not even close. This is Mercedes consoling Annette as her best friend in the whole world is going to literally murder her and trying to make sure that she doesn't feel bad for doing so. If that isn't tragic then I don't know what is.
I will never understand why the units who are supposed to be THE light magic users don't learn any offensive light magic except for Marianne and Byleth i guess, meanwhile Sylvain, Ingrid, and Edelgard get Seraphim while Dimitri gets Aura.
@@JR384 ...But... For science and finding out where everyone is timeskip... ASHE BETTER STAY AWAY ON CRIMSON FLOWER AND NOT CHARGE TO HIS DEATH! PETRA AND HILDA, I'M STILL MAD YOU DID THAT! To make matters worse, Byleth crited Hilda...
I always kinda felt like certain characters should be separable (even if you couldn't recruit them just spare their lives) if you fought them with some of their closest freinds. If it was about the horrors of war for this type of scenario war prisoners wouldnt be the most far fetched thing. Especially since eldelgard was going on about how she wants to end the war with "as little casualties" as possible
But... Edie also has that moment with Dimitri right after this battle where she acts like the fighting isn't her fault because Dimitri fights back, so I honestly question the casualties thing...
@@adamrhodes9533 Edelgard is completely willing to end the fighting if Rhea were to surrender peacefully, as seen in the dialogue before the final chapter. Unfortunately, she knows fully well that's not the case. Also, seriously? You're gonna shittalk a character for something you *think* they'd do?
Yeah but like its impossible to end the war without killing edelgard the same goes here if you eliminate all enemy commanders the foot solders surrender same goes if edelgard or byleth dies but if there captured people will continue fighting Am the type of person especially from black eagles church pov id spare Edelgard why 1 am basically in charge of the church so we could talk out our issues there But it isnt possible 1 reason political stuff i dont know much about 2 edelgard troops wont surrender until the leader is dead Same applies to the commanders plus once your in this deep like what is mercedes supposed to drop what shes doing and leave the battle what does taking her prisonor do but thsts really it
@@vader1481 I wish Edie can be spared. In fact, it could have provided a good message- After war, what is left is to forgive. Holding onto wartime grudges is silly, and we should forgive. But... Edie can't be spared...
Mercie: Why follow an emperor who would start such a war? Golden words. After completing all 4 routes i got that this war was nothing just Edelgard's foolish youthful maximalism
Rhea was about to leave her post anyway. Because Belyth is the reincarnation of the goddess who will supposed to bring justice to Fodlan. Edelgard began to cooperate and help Agarthans and did allow them committing terrible deeds throughout the whole game's story. All she did was wrong, but she was too pride to accept this
@@thanatossonofnyx2472 Who says that Byleth wouldve changed Fodlan to the better? Out of Edelgards perspektive it would just be another person on top of the church. Sorry but their is no world in which the church was good for the world. Sure war isn't either but as bad as this sounds sometimes you need to do that. There are many Situations in our world where the same thing happens and since it is in the past we call it out super positive. A good example of this is the french revolution. Now it's taught at school as a heroic revolution which started democracy. It's taught in a very possitive manner (which it obviously is) but for the time it was a fatal war which caused many lifes and even after the war the change wasn't that significant. After Edelgard won the crest and noble system where removed and the church didn't have any power anymore. In which world is that a bad thing. If we compare that to the ending of blue lions I'm not sure if I want to say the same thing. But to be fair even I think that cf is the least interesting route since the story and char development is pretty linear (you got legit 0 char development) but like I said before it's the route which makes, from a neutral point of view, if you ignore your biased towards certain characters the most sense
Bruh. Did you even pay attention? It's not like Edelgard was like "Hm I feel like starting a war today..." There are reasons behind her actions and just because you don't personally agree with them doesn't mean they're inherently bad. Edelgards side is like "the ends justifies the means" side. Like you will do whatever it takes to reach your goal.
You do get this is my opinion you even said it I don't like her reasons I played her route to see her side of the story and I still disagree. Also where did her dislike of the Crest and noble system come from? I don't know even after playing her route. Correct me if I missed anything which I probably did. Her family was killed in blood experiments because of those who slither in the dark her hair was turned White because of it and she gain a second crest. Where does her dislike of nobility and crest came in? Her second crest was a secret was it not? She was already nobility so it not like she was a commoner like Dorothea who nobles treated like shit but they she was found to be in line to be the next emperor then start treating her with respect. No she was always in the Imperial family she just wasn't next in line she watched her family die she became next in line then wants to wage war against the church. If anything she should want their help to fight those who slither in the dark. I probably missed something since this doesn't make sense so if I did correct me.
@@aaronwolf6823 The problem is that Edelgard is a bit of a blinded idiot. She is mad at crests and the nobility system because of the blood experiments but fails to express hate towards the people who did that to her. She instead takes it out on Rhea because the nobility system is in place because she doesn't tell her followers the truth about the crests and relics. Edelgard believes that the relics were man-made creations and that Serios killed the creators and stole their weapons when it was the exact opposite since the Crest stones in the weapons are the hearts of her siblings who were killed by Nemesis (the red canion). Hence the whole "children of the goddess" thing. Those who slither in the dark know the truth but Edelgard is just too ignorant, we know this because of the conversation that happened between Edergard and her uncle after Byleth obtains the sword of the creator. He tells her about Nemesis just being a thief and she just says "Thief? Hm, anyways". I completely disagree with Edelgard's actions in every way and I can't bring myself to have any empathy for her.
@@tenkaichi2023 personally if I could change her back story to more relate to her goals would be she was a commoner who had no family and was living on the streets. She learns she needs to grow up quickly making her become a smart and strong girl living only on her strength and wit. Nobles treat her like shit just like Dorothea while being lazy and doing nothing to improve the Empire. She could end up trying to work in attempt to join the military. She meets Casper's father he could be like what she feels nobles should be. She could also meet Casper feel he should be the one to become the next minister of military but find out he isn't because he a second son and the one who would be the next minister is like all the other nobles lazy and unfit to be in that position. She could perhaps have a hidden crest rather than crest of Serios it could be crest of Hersvelg making her a direct descendant of the Imperial royal family. Someone from those who slither in the dark could discover it see edelgard's distaste for the current system then they could make it known to the Empire in some way she has it then she is immediately next in line to the throne. She could get annoyed since she worked so hard for her rank in the military but just because she had a crest she is thrown into the nobility with the work or effort. Twsitd could then manipulate her by telling her that things are like that because of the Church and Rhea. It's a bit of a rough idea but I would prefer that backstory to copy and pasting lysithea's which doesn't make sense for her goals.
@@aaronwolf6823 She hates crests because her family died because of them. The hate for nobility comes because she simply concluded that it is ridiculous.
@@pyroflare7774 as far as I know there are no specific quotes for one unit beating another. So they just proc their generic death quote from that chapter
@@sargeward8184 that's just as downright weird as it is when you defeat a student the camera focuses on their bodies for a few seconds longer than normal enemies
I thought Felicia fighing her sister in the Birthright Path was sad... then i recruited Annette in Three Houses and didn't manage to recruit Mercie... ;_;
1:14 When I did my Crimson Flower playthough, it was this moment I knew I wouldn't play it again (unless DLC is REALLY good). Strangely enough, I felt no regrets or emotional conflict slaughtering most of the Black Eagle faction in my other playthroughs; heck, I used divine pulse to kill Caspar AND Linhardt TWICE!
I can't play the game but i watched gameplays and i agree, i didn't felt anything at all when black eagles died (expect for Dorothea) but i nearly teard up at Blue lions and Golden deers. With that said ironically enough Edelgard is one of my favorites but i really can't enjoy Crimson Flower.
@@seana.8256 Yeah, I feel like (and have had actually heard from other people) that they walked away from CF with a bitter taste taste in their mouth. Yeah they humanized Edelgard, but they ask us to look away from the atrocities she allows Thales and co. to get away with and the fact she kinda heartlessly murders everyone while being cold about it; yeah Claude and Dimitri tear everyone else down in their routes, but at least they own up to it in their routes. Heck Claude actually tries to come up with schemes to avoid increasing his body count.
@@frankenhoez7023 Yeah, Dorothea and Bernie are the only characters I kinda regret killing, but otherwise they all had it coming. I'm not saying I enjoyed it, but I am saying out of all the factions that you rupture to Heaven, there was a certain righteousness in clipping the Black Eagles' wings.
@@natoriousthehopeful2786 i didn't see bernie die thankfully, because she was recruited, i prefer Silver Snow to Crimson Flower even Rhea could be right out inhumane (heh) but it had a more satisfying conclusion. With TWSID Defeated and all.
I really like how unlike most battle dialogues neither of them are mad at choosing the opposite side
in Fates, characters would be like "Why didn't you choose our side!", like whiny children playing games. But here, many characters say "It's fine, this is war and we all have our reasons for choosing different sides".
@@lucinae8510
That doesn't make much sense.
First off, I don't think many of the battle conversations in Fates go like that at all, I can't personally even remember a single one like that.
That said, I'm sure they exist...but why is that a bad thing?
If your "real" family went back to the obviously corrupt Nohr, to seemingly fight against you, even after seeing the evil they cause, asking why they did so is not whiny or childish in the slightest.
And seeing Corrin join his "real" family who he has known for like, a few days, and leaving behind the people who raised and loved him, is also cause for asking why he left them.
@@bnhearyza4767 Where I disagree is that it makes a lot of sense for most characters to turn their back on their homelands because of their own stories and character. Fates had that shoehorned into their plot.
I'll run through the Blue Lions because it's the quickest and easiest to explain (outside of Ingrid because she's the only one who makes no sense to turn on her homeland).
Felix - Refuses to serve under Dimitri who he views as a murderous sociopath and is already annoyed about how his brother has become a martyr.
Sylvain - Openly has disgust for the existance of a class system based on crests due to his own family and Edelgard is the one who is trying to remove that class system.
Annette - Father abandoned her because of "duty" and reconciliation never happens (the one thing really tying her down to Faerghus). A bit weak but still a viable reason.
Mercedes - Her brother is alive and working for Edelgard. Plus, Mercedes was actually born in Adrestia.
Ashe - Hey, remember when we killed your adoptive father and it turned out that the church really was just a controlling entity that needed to suppress anyone who didn't bow to their absolute religious rule? Besides, Ashe is just a commoner at the end of the day and knows that nobility can turn and oppress the common-man if they decide to.
Outside of Ingrid, the Blue Lions have their own personal conflict with Faerghus and potential reasons for leaving it (Ashe and Felix are the biggest victors here). Same goes for the other houses, especially the Golden Deer since that's just politics at play.
@@LifeAdmiral
It’s been like five months. But a thing I’ll add about Ingrid is that she could be in the same boat as Sylvain. But honestly there’s no dialogue that suggests that she hates the crest system like Sylvain.
From what I read, she joins could have joined because she has reforming ideals about being some loyal knight because of a Glenn and also her valued crest.
These aren’t definitive but it’s here to try and ease a way of thinking of a reason for Ingrid to be joining you on Crimson Flower.
@@FilthyCasualty the best way to rationalize Ingrid being with edelgard on the crimson flower route would be that it would make it easier on her family since she tells you that her family is struggling financially in her supports
The way she says "Mercie" is heartbreaking
ikr i almost cried lmao
*sad, sad death scene*
"I'm sorry, Dimitri, but I can not stand on my feet anymore T.T"
Sylvain: *bling* "Thanks for the exp!"
So sad to see a friendship break apart.
A friendship breaking apart? Not even close. This is Mercedes consoling Annette as her best friend in the whole world is going to literally murder her and trying to make sure that she doesn't feel bad for doing so. If that isn't tragic then I don't know what is.
If only Mercy actually could learn Abraxas
Jim Carrey's Livid Legume Contraption I know it's such a tease
Meteor hubert
Flayn too, for that matter....
Same
I will never understand why the units who are supposed to be THE light magic users don't learn any offensive light magic except for Marianne and Byleth i guess, meanwhile Sylvain, Ingrid, and Edelgard get Seraphim while Dimitri gets Aura.
Poor Mercie. And Annette didn’t get to eat her sweets for one last time.
Truly heartbreaking
I'm not crying, you're crying.
It's just a game,moron.
Mercedes... Her generic fight line is... LITERALLY my opinion... No wonder I like her... At least it looks like you can easily avoid fighting her...
I actually think you do have to beat her. Pretty sure the map is a "Defeat All Commanders" objective.
@@JR384 ...These no recruit runs are going to kill me... Maybe I shouldn't...
@@adamrhodes9533 Fair.
@@JR384 ...But... For science and finding out where everyone is timeskip... ASHE BETTER STAY AWAY ON CRIMSON FLOWER AND NOT CHARGE TO HIS DEATH! PETRA AND HILDA, I'M STILL MAD YOU DID THAT! To make matters worse, Byleth crited Hilda...
@@adamrhodes9533 Yeah, just gonna tell you now. Ashe isn't required, but I think he starts moving by like turn 5 of the final map.
This is almost as heartbreaking as Mecedes's dialogue with Jeritza!
I always kinda felt like certain characters should be separable (even if you couldn't recruit them just spare their lives) if you fought them with some of their closest freinds. If it was about the horrors of war for this type of scenario war prisoners wouldnt be the most far fetched thing. Especially since eldelgard was going on about how she wants to end the war with "as little casualties" as possible
But... Edie also has that moment with Dimitri right after this battle where she acts like the fighting isn't her fault because Dimitri fights back, so I honestly question the casualties thing...
I also get a feeling Hubert probably advised the war prisoners would be a liability. I don't know. Feels like something he'd do.
@@adamrhodes9533 Edelgard is completely willing to end the fighting if Rhea were to surrender peacefully, as seen in the dialogue before the final chapter. Unfortunately, she knows fully well that's not the case.
Also, seriously? You're gonna shittalk a character for something you *think* they'd do?
Yeah but like its impossible to end the war without killing edelgard the same goes here if you eliminate all enemy commanders the foot solders surrender same goes if edelgard or byleth dies but if there captured people will continue fighting
Am the type of person especially from black eagles church pov id spare Edelgard why 1 am basically in charge of the church so we could talk out our issues there
But it isnt possible 1 reason political stuff i dont know much about
2 edelgard troops wont surrender until the leader is dead
Same applies to the commanders plus once your in this deep like what is mercedes supposed to drop what shes doing and leave the battle what does taking her prisonor do but thsts really it
@@vader1481 I wish Edie can be spared. In fact, it could have provided a good message- After war, what is left is to forgive. Holding onto wartime grudges is silly, and we should forgive. But... Edie can't be spared...
Now THIS is where real men cried
Mercie: Why follow an emperor who would start such a war?
Golden words. After completing all 4 routes i got that this war was nothing just Edelgard's foolish youthful maximalism
Edelgard's war changed Fodlan for the better whatever side you picked. Rhea and the Agarthan's needed to go, they were poisoning the kingdom
Rhea was about to leave her post anyway. Because Belyth is the reincarnation of the goddess who will supposed to bring justice to Fodlan. Edelgard began to cooperate and help Agarthans and did allow them committing terrible deeds throughout the whole game's story. All she did was wrong, but she was too pride to accept this
If she didn’t start the war the agarthans would have attacked anyways.
@@thanatossonofnyx2472 Who says that Byleth wouldve changed Fodlan to the better? Out of Edelgards perspektive it would just be another person on top of the church. Sorry but their is no world in which the church was good for the world. Sure war isn't either but as bad as this sounds sometimes you need to do that.
There are many Situations in our world where the same thing happens and since it is in the past we call it out super positive. A good example of this is the french revolution. Now it's taught at school as a heroic revolution which started democracy. It's taught in a very possitive manner (which it obviously is) but for the time it was a fatal war which caused many lifes and even after the war the change wasn't that significant.
After Edelgard won the crest and noble system where removed and the church didn't have any power anymore. In which world is that a bad thing. If we compare that to the ending of blue lions I'm not sure if I want to say the same thing.
But to be fair even I think that cf is the least interesting route since the story and char development is pretty linear (you got legit 0 char development) but like I said before it's the route which makes, from a neutral point of view, if you ignore your biased towards certain characters the most sense
1:13 what I was thinking throughout my whole black Eagles playthrough
Bruh. Did you even pay attention? It's not like Edelgard was like "Hm I feel like starting a war today..." There are reasons behind her actions and just because you don't personally agree with them doesn't mean they're inherently bad. Edelgards side is like "the ends justifies the means" side. Like you will do whatever it takes to reach your goal.
You do get this is my opinion you even said it I don't like her reasons I played her route to see her side of the story and I still disagree. Also where did her dislike of the Crest and noble system come from? I don't know even after playing her route. Correct me if I missed anything which I probably did. Her family was killed in blood experiments because of those who slither in the dark her hair was turned White because of it and she gain a second crest. Where does her dislike of nobility and crest came in? Her second crest was a secret was it not? She was already nobility so it not like she was a commoner like Dorothea who nobles treated like shit but they she was found to be in line to be the next emperor then start treating her with respect. No she was always in the Imperial family she just wasn't next in line she watched her family die she became next in line then wants to wage war against the church. If anything she should want their help to fight those who slither in the dark. I probably missed something since this doesn't make sense so if I did correct me.
@@aaronwolf6823 The problem is that Edelgard is a bit of a blinded idiot. She is mad at crests and the nobility system because of the blood experiments but fails to express hate towards the people who did that to her. She instead takes it out on Rhea because the nobility system is in place because she doesn't tell her followers the truth about the crests and relics. Edelgard believes that the relics were man-made creations and that Serios killed the creators and stole their weapons when it was the exact opposite since the Crest stones in the weapons are the hearts of her siblings who were killed by Nemesis (the red canion). Hence the whole "children of the goddess" thing. Those who slither in the dark know the truth but Edelgard is just too ignorant, we know this because of the conversation that happened between Edergard and her uncle after Byleth obtains the sword of the creator. He tells her about Nemesis just being a thief and she just says "Thief? Hm, anyways". I completely disagree with Edelgard's actions in every way and I can't bring myself to have any empathy for her.
@@tenkaichi2023 personally if I could change her back story to more relate to her goals would be she was a commoner who had no family and was living on the streets. She learns she needs to grow up quickly making her become a smart and strong girl living only on her strength and wit. Nobles treat her like shit just like Dorothea while being lazy and doing nothing to improve the Empire. She could end up trying to work in attempt to join the military. She meets Casper's father he could be like what she feels nobles should be. She could also meet Casper feel he should be the one to become the next minister of military but find out he isn't because he a second son and the one who would be the next minister is like all the other nobles lazy and unfit to be in that position. She could perhaps have a hidden crest rather than crest of Serios it could be crest of Hersvelg making her a direct descendant of the Imperial royal family. Someone from those who slither in the dark could discover it see edelgard's distaste for the current system then they could make it known to the Empire in some way she has it then she is immediately next in line to the throne. She could get annoyed since she worked so hard for her rank in the military but just because she had a crest she is thrown into the nobility with the work or effort. Twsitd could then manipulate her by telling her that things are like that because of the Church and Rhea. It's a bit of a rough idea but I would prefer that backstory to copy and pasting lysithea's which doesn't make sense for her goals.
@@aaronwolf6823
She hates crests because her family died because of them. The hate for nobility comes because she simply concluded that it is ridiculous.
Just another reason that Crimson Flower is the worst route, I need to go sit down now.
Ah. A person with taste. *Pats your back*
It's the most boring route but it's the right side to chose in my opinion.
this is why i recruited mercedes on my cf run ❤
I recruited EVERYONE!
And this is why you should always recruit them in pairs.
Two best girls fighting each other, I see.:(
I was wondering if they had the same dialogue exchange as they do if you recruited Mercedes and had her fight Annette.
Apparently, they have
This is genuinely very sad
Do you get the same conversation if you attack Annette with Mercedes in the battle after this?
Yes. its an identical conversation
Sarge Ward Okay thanks.
@@sargeward8184 what if you beat them with the other?
@@pyroflare7774 as far as I know there are no specific quotes for one unit beating another. So they just proc their generic death quote from that chapter
@@sargeward8184 that's just as downright weird as it is when you defeat a student the camera focuses on their bodies for a few seconds longer than normal enemies
Holy bananas, that was depressing. I'm happy I didn't do this.
You should never do this
...wait, Dimitri doesn't have the eye patch?
He doesn't have it on crimson flower
He never gets overthrown here.
I thought Felicia fighing her sister in the Birthright Path was sad... then i recruited Annette in Three Houses and didn't manage to recruit Mercie... ;_;
First of all how fucking dare you
So you chose to have Annette fight against her father and Mercedes against her brother...seems like you should have recruited the other way around.
So heartbreaking
Annette vs Gilbert?
Freudia he already did it
Annette i swear god i will find you! Don't worry karst and Menardi she will pay for this!
Annie would never
I kind of wish you would have trained Annette with a weapon to take her out, rather than making poor Sylvain do it.
Mercedes: “Forgive me Dimitri… I can’t seem to stay on my feet…”
Sylvain: “Dammit professor why do you gotta make me kill such hot snatch?”
1:14 When I did my Crimson Flower playthough, it was this moment I knew I wouldn't play it again (unless DLC is REALLY good).
Strangely enough, I felt no regrets or emotional conflict slaughtering most of the Black Eagle faction in my other playthroughs; heck, I used divine pulse to kill Caspar AND Linhardt TWICE!
Jeremy Woodruff I know right! I couldn’t play CF again, but I’ve played AM and VW at least twice now.
I can't play the game but i watched gameplays and i agree, i didn't felt anything at all when black eagles died (expect for Dorothea) but i nearly teard up at Blue lions and Golden deers.
With that said ironically enough Edelgard is one of my favorites but i really can't enjoy Crimson Flower.
@@seana.8256 Yeah, I feel like (and have had actually heard from other people) that they walked away from CF with a bitter taste taste in their mouth. Yeah they humanized Edelgard, but they ask us to look away from the atrocities she allows Thales and co. to get away with and the fact she kinda heartlessly murders everyone while being cold about it; yeah Claude and Dimitri tear everyone else down in their routes, but at least they own up to it in their routes. Heck Claude actually tries to come up with schemes to avoid increasing his body count.
@@frankenhoez7023 Yeah, Dorothea and Bernie are the only characters I kinda regret killing, but otherwise they all had it coming. I'm not saying I enjoyed it, but I am saying out of all the factions that you rupture to Heaven, there was a certain righteousness in clipping the Black Eagles' wings.
@@natoriousthehopeful2786 i didn't see bernie die thankfully, because she was recruited, i prefer Silver Snow to Crimson Flower even Rhea could be right out inhumane (heh) but it had a more satisfying conclusion. With TWSID Defeated and all.
Annette vs Felix
they have a convo
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