What is concerning about this, is if you are reducing the loot... I can live with that. But if they don't do something about enchanting (try rolling +2 on envenom) or the worthless stats... I'll never get the gear I need.
Exactly dude they reduced the gear way to much season 5 was nice this just sucks drops suck lately there trying to slow game down because they still have no endgame
Exactly dude they reduced the gear way to much season 5 was nice this just sucks drops suck lately there trying to slow game down because they still have no endgame
yea if they had increased the quality with 1/2/3+ga with reduced drops i don't think anyone would have minded, however with no increase in quality it just sucks lol
Was incredibly happy when I found a +2 Quickshift, 9% max attack speed necklace. I got the tempers and didn't brick it but then spent 500m getting +2 Envenom and that was my first roll of Envenom on my neck. I didn't get a bunch of +1's. It literally took me 500m to get my first roll of Envenom.
I don’t like the fact that they “legacy” our items again for season 6. I’m tired of them making my eternal realm characters obsolete. What happened to player progression?
@@walkerkraft9661 False, I play Eternal from time to time. I see plenty of level 100s playing. Not everyone wants to restart over n over. Eternal should scale to what we have not be depreciated.
@@walkerkraft9661 If it's the past why Eternal exist in the ACTUAL videogame ? Why you assume no one play in the eternal realm ? (I don't play eternal before you assume that as well) Why you link grown players with seasonal players only ? With this level of arrogance we can assume as well you are a kid.
There is a problem with 'progression'. Trying to 'progress' in a season seems pointless since it leads nowhere and becomes redundant next season. Plus all your hold and mats disappear.
Once again, ensure the lower amount of drops are actually useful and worth it. Instead of dropping blues and yellows in Torments, just drop the materials because we will salvage them most likely.
My biggest issue is destroying our eternal characters. Why not just let them scale up when most players will be in seasonal. All my hard earned work n time farming and finalizing my builds gone.
I agree. It just feels like a punishment. I understand that the developers want the game to be “slower” but why kill off the Eternal characters? I don’t understand why undo all the work players do in terms of personal progression. Honestly doesn’t feel fun let alone make most people want to play seasons. Seasonal characters with No GA equals nerf is bad design especially with crappy drop rates. There are to many instances of killing a torment boss 22 items drop but no mythic unique and only 1 GA but is life per sec. Laughable
It is a bad idea when they decide to nerf all the items you've found especially getting the right tempered affixes and masterworked them. Not only that, it took me 2 seasons to get the mythic uniques and I don't like it when they nerfed it.
@@mauricebrown6182 It's their stupid mentality of "extending playtime". It blows my mind how clueless they are about stuff. I got so lucky on many of my enchantments and tempers. Now you're telling me my finished level 100 characters are essentially useless now, gee thanks alot.
@@Langaslangas Exactly all the bricked items I went through just to finally luck out and finally get all my tempers and enchantments i needed. I haven't found any Mythics but the items I have are near perfect for my builds. Now they're taking it all away, so damn stupid. I really hate when a game is finally in a good spot but due to streamers they nerf and completely change the games structure.
I seriously hope they don’t touch my eternal character. I got 4 mystic items. What a grind to get if you’re lucky and now you wanna trash it? I hope they don’t cross the lines but stay in seasonal stuff only.
@@ErikByrwaas i stated in a previous comment its funny how path of exile respects players time and invesments in characters during a season and moves all the gear you've farmed during a seaon to your standard characters but apprently D4 can't do that.
Yep, if they make this change im gonna quit for POE2 , this is crazy I have insane build with full equip with exact stats all GA , 2 mythics 4GA others 2GA , spent hundreds of hours to achieve this and now I can throw it to the trash ? GG Blizzard
I've lost count how many times there were adjustment to itemization, that forced me to refarm all my myhic uniques. If I was interested in that, I would do seasons.
@@Dzugoslav Yeah I recently noticed my eternal uniques had conpletely different stats then the same item from seasonal. Hate it when they do this stuff, hate how our finalized Eternals are now massively depreciated.
@@michaelhuie5878 I mean I kinda get it, that with expansion itemization changes it is to be expected that current gear will be inferior. But to have such changes within seasons is nonsense. Retroactively such change could have been made for existing items. Not doing so is just padding and recycling content. Which feels very cheap and historically did not bode well for the game and its developer.
@@Dzugoslav It's just so annoying and stupid to have to refarm n re brick a whole bunch of items all over again. Esp after the changes from season 4. If this is going to be common practice then there's no point if our finalized characters are constantly depreciated every few months/every yr.
They need to add the real rune words like 3 and 4 words ( for now....and on others seasons more words how use 5 and 6 words)not this lame runes ...they Even need correct place for the Word .....boring
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening. Item reset prior to the one in season six was at the start of season 4 like 3 months ago. No one has lost a years worth of progress in that time.
Seems like you may have misunderstood what some of the reddit comments were talking about. Blizzard nerfed non GA gear, including uniques, to be pretty much useless (huge item power/stat nerf and 4/4 masterwork). The comments are saying the drop rate for GA non-mythic gear is far too low. Finding mythics won't be a problem because they have a guaranteed GA, the problem with the drop rate will be finding the GA uniques that are required for many builds. GA uniques should not be harder to find than mythics. Other than that you hit the nail on the head.
The biggest issue with reduced drops is going to be mats for enchanting and gold, if they dont adjust drops from how they are in ptr or dramatically change enchanting system then it is going to be very tough going; in addition to having to run the pit hundreds of times just for a small chance to uograde your high level glyphs you arent going to have mats for imprinting aspects or rerolling stats. Super fun.
1:00 Items being nerfed vs just adding Item Power 1200 on top of what we currently have. It accomplishes the same thing except a nerf is better for the game in the long run. 1:50 You guys first complained over too much loot in the inventory, now they're fixing it with less but higher quality drops. And now you 180 and actually prefer having the screen and inventory completely cluttered by garbage loot?? Make up your mind. You don't have to have the entire screen clogged with trash to be able to have the same chance of good meaningful drops. And by not cluttering the entire screen with trash pinatas you also don't need to baindaid it with a loot filter where the players put in extra work to fix the developer's bad game design decision. 5:29 "Runewords can't be called runewords because they're not 1 for 1 exact copies" but the Pit CAN be called Rifts because it's similar enough. Nice logic. Let's cry over the fact that they dared to name Frozen Orb Frozen Orb even though it is NOTHING like the Frozen Orb from D2. D4 runewords are socketable runes that make funny looking words and grant you different powers depending what runes you're using and they can also be used to create really insane Uniques. Combine the Runes to make a Tyrael and add your runeword to it. At least some donkey at Blizzard didn't decide that your rune would be wasted should you put it in in the wrong order.
@@ErikByrwanerfing what we have already farmed just to refarm it again is not progression. It is ILLUSION of progression They are not giving us anything, thay are TAKING AWAY what we already have for us to refarm the same gear (mythic uniques) again. Take note that eternal players have different views relative to seasonal players Refarming the same stuff is not appealing, at least for me…
What was the point of s4:Loot Reborn and s5:More Loot and "some" Balance - if for s6 is just undoing everything they just put in? Let's be honest, this is the 3rd month of these changes, I'm blaming the xpac.. they designed the xpac around level 60 and less of everything.. yet the base game went off in a different direction.. so, instead on bringing the xpac up the base game.. they basically nerf everything to meet the demands of the xpac. Spiritborn, is going to be so OP (they want us to play this new class).. I'll bet a $1 with get even more nerfs (huge ones too) by the time s8 or s9 roll out.
@@toadieC1970 Another case of them not knowing what they're doing. Only listening to the 1% streamers n no lifers. Such a stupid n terrible design choice.
Why are the devs ignoring loot filter? Its been requsted since like season 1. Honest question. I will watch a video theorizing why they're so stubborn with loot filter
If we’re getting less loot and poor loot then that’s something that I don’t want to grind or experience. This “have to have GA” thing is stupid. Not excited at all for this.
Believe it or not i have heard players saying things like "I wish a legendary drop once every 6 months or so, and have a high chance to be bricked so i have something to do, i love when a game super grindy" they actually salivate with the thought and i cant get my head around it, in MY opinion that's the mentality of someone that has fking nothing else to do in life.
@@DARKCOP2011 That's crazy talk. lol I don't want drops to be easy but I also don't want them to be so rare that I don't feel like I'm getting rewarding for playing. We play ARPGs for loot drops. Find a nice middle ground.
I really do t like content locked behind group play… If I wanted to have to play in a group I’d play WOW… And when they added group finder to WOW it was horrible… Most people using the finder had no idea of the mechanics etc and caused a huge waste of time… I bought this as a singer play game with group options which is perfect…
@@_irson7616 Any current mythic you have are getting reduced to level 540 despite the fact that Mythics can only drop at max level. Max level in 2.0 is 800 and all new Mythics will drop at that level. There is no reason to not convert existing Mythics to the new max level of 800 and not 540. Some have pointed out that currently the affixes stay the same but the DPS of weapons, armor value and elemental damage reduction of rings will be dramatically reduced as they follow the item level.
@Chadwick5324 it is simply cause the number smash. They crunched the level so if they leave them the same that means those mythic stats will be beyond new game mythics. It's sad but true.
essentially the message that blizz wants everyone to know is “your time investment is a waste of time” Because everything just gets nerfed or deleted every patch or every OTHER patch (everything turning legacy on eternal realm). Game is just a forced seasonal game.
This is going to be a HUGE drag once you get your glyph into the 90s, I hate to even think how many pit runs it could end up taking to advance from 90-100 since it will just be a small chance at an upgrade each run. Just horrific, there was nothing wrong with the way it was they just needed to add a couple more ways to get glyph XP instead of overhauling the entire system to clone D3.
This is a strategy they put on EVERYTHING they have, just to have you in your little wheel all day, if they have quality content there was no reason for stupid things like "chance to get something".
I don’t have tons of time to play. The fact that they want to nerf my gear, for the second season in a row, is a deal breaker. I play eternal. I worked really hard all season to replace everything from the loot rework. Now poof. Oh but don’t worry they say it’s awesome! It doesn’t feel awesome, it’s feels like punishment for succeeding. F all that
@@adamgoad4131 Yeah I hate they're depreciating our Eterrnals instead of scaling them up. All of our time n effort n luck to get the right tempers n enchantments gone. The countless bricked items just to finally get what we needed meaningless. So stupid.
Because there doesn't seem to be an end to the number of item resets the devs are going to do. I'm not gonna spend the rest of my life levelling up over and over again and reacquiring slightly different versions of the same items.
Diablo is still figuring things out with all these drastic changes even when the damn expansion is coming out. That's pretty f'd up in that they basically still have an unfinished beta game yet they have an exp coming up 🤦. That pisses me off having spent all this time just adjusting to changes like herded sheep.
@@rogerh2694 It's fine there is an expansion coming, however after the disaster of many "reborns" this game has gone through, then to actually charge $40 for an expansion when the base game is still in Beta phases as we speak is where the problem lays.
Poe is always there for us all.. n shortly poe2 will b in early access.both r free. I highly recommend any “casual” to try either out because I’m a casual myself n thoroughly enjoy Poe. The devs actually care about the game n listen to the community- funny thing is- it works lmao😂. Who would of thought listening to the community would continuously improve a game 🥴
The team will always, on occasion, reset item progression by marking existing items as legacy. This will not stop. They do this intentionally to give more room for item progression to eternal players. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens on average two times each year.
what they should do for the runewards is add sockets to gloves and boots just for them, so we dont lose current gem slots for them. unless they fix them up to be more powerful and meaningful
Every season, every expansion, they make my chars obsolete. I can't play my char. They force me to start over. I literally finished the game in season 5 with all the mythics and everything. I was preparing that char for the new expansion and guess what? My items will be legacy because they keep changing them. Deliberate mistakes and deliberate solutions with the intention of selling more content.
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening. As for the expansion, you'll easily be able to play it with legacy gear. You will easily make it to torment 2 or 3 depending on your build.
@@ErikByrwa you don't understand what I mean if the progress stops finishing the content doesn't mean anything. This is a game of progress but it turned into a seasonal, temporary shit over time. I have been playing the game since D1 and believe me these things are new.
I'd already made the decision, due to their terrible customer service, that I wasn't going to buy the expansion and therefore will probably be locked out of season 6/D4 until it is released on GamePass. The fact that they have, essentially, made D4 "D3.5" with increasing numbers of re-hashed ideas from D3 and then have the nerve to try to charge you for this crap has solidified this decision. Just when you thought you'd stopped being an unpaid Alpha tester they're going to release an expansion and break the entire game again. I mean, look at the PTR and the stronghold exploit; how does this crap get into a PTR so close to actual release date? After over 20 years of playing most of their franchises to death I doubt I will ever buy another Blizzard game. Thank god for Last Epoch and PoE/PoE2.
If you pre-ordered the dlc, you are the reason this game will continue to suck. By purchasing the dlc, you've told the devs, "Even though this game launched in a poor beta state and has only gotten slightly better a year after release, I support and reward you. I understand that there is no endgame a year after release, and the base game is still missing tons of basic features, I reward you for this piss poor game"
I've bought the ultimate edition of the game and pre-ordered the $100 version. I have enjoyed every season so far. Has the game been perfect? No, but a game doesn't need to be perfect to be fun.
@@ErikByrwa good for you, some of us don't want to reward a billion dollar company for putting out an unfinished product and some like you do. More power to you.
Why not a bigger inventory? Am I the only one that thinks that would be okay? I'll take 20 items as a drop instead of 3 if I know my inventory can hold more.
They either need to increase the number of drops, or RADICALLY reduce the cost of tempering and masterworking....otherwise you will be utterly broke all the time starved for materials. When it goes live, we won't be able to click on the demon and make everything better. Season 6 will be the season of materials farming. The other option to to RADICALLY reduce the RNG and make things deterministic.....but we all know that everyone is addicted to gambling and that will never happen.
Exactly! Spend 170k obs just to hit 3x cooldown on Shako. Thats absurd, imagine that for 10 more items, if you are lucky to get a godly one. And doing multiple T4 pit 85-90 without an GA item feels so awful.
@@Mister_Vintage They need to put a gold cap on enchanting and remove the cap on tempers. Esp since 80% of the time the same useless stat rolls over n over.
The challenge with Runewords in Diablo 4 (D4) is that they might be designed to avoid the same pitfalls that occurred previously In D2. In D2 (Diablo 2), once Runewords were introduced, traditional gear-such as Windforce (WF) or Grandfather (GF)-quickly became obsolete and was no longer considered optimal for any build. This shift meant that only items that couldn’t hold a Runeword, such as certain helms (often chosen for budget reasons), rings, belts, boots, and gloves, remained relevant. Essentially, the game’s focus shifted towards runes and Runewords as the primary means for effective magic finding. There were rare instances where high-end armor, like those with 120-60 (IAS, Max, Min and even Facets to a different degree), might still be used. However, the prevailing sentiment among many players I’ve spoken with, as well as from my own experiences in D2, is that Runewords significantly altered the game dynamics. This change may have inadvertently diminished some of the game’s original aspects, highlighting the importance of balancing new features with existing game mechanics. For reference, I've played since around the start of Diablo I and through all the iterations of Diablo (i.e., I, II, III, and now IV). I share the view that this feature might have been better received if it had been named something entirely different.
D2 LoD became the best game with 1.10 and later patches. As Long as teleport is in the game as it was designed, it is the mightest skill of the game and Therefor a Core item to obtain with Enigma. Enigma also gives you the ability to wear Most gear without spending anything/too much in strenght
But u can use the runewords on this uniques now ...the only obsolete ítems are white,blue and yellow.....they can use a little brain and Say u need this x Unique to use full power of this runeWord or something like that...
@@RickieJr In the current iteration of Diablo 4, a promising way to integrate runewords while keeping loot farming relevant and balanced is by using existing socketable gear and treating runes as advanced gems. Each rune would provide a smaller, individual buff when applied to an item. Once the runeword is assembled within your existing gear, these runes would combine to create a singular, unique effect that evolves from the individual rune buffs, rather than drastically altering the item. For balancing, the effects could be tied to the scaling factor of item power. The creation of runewords could be a simple drag-and-drop system, similar to how gems are handled, or through a menu that scans your current runes in your stash and character. This menu would provide an in-game dropdown of available runewords that can be created, while also allowing you to view existing runewords and their effects for future planning. This approach would avoid the pitfall of Diablo 2, where runewords created entirely new items, by instead enhancing the current items already available. It adds another layer to work towards without alienating anything or anyone. This method would maintain the value of current gear and offer hardcore min-max players a goal to pursue, while ensuring that players who do not engage with runewords remain competitive and do not feel left behind. Additionally, it would preserve the excitement and fun of discovering those super rolled unique drops. Just my thoughts on how the system should be handled.
Hey blizzard you listening!!!! Leave our gear alone!!!! Or we’ll play outside!!! I’d rather go fishing 🎣 at this point . Wasted time won’t be done twice!
The best fix for inventory issues is don't limit how much we can carry, it's really simple. Why can't we just carry everything I mean carrying a lot of crap doesn't make you overpowered 🤣 just makes exploring more convenient.
In my opinion, Diablo 4 is good the way it is now. But no, Blizzard has to completely change D4 again and make all previously collected items on every single character "legacy" once again nice. Like lowering item levels and ruining everything. That's why most people don't want LIVE SERVICE! We don't need a publisher that often changes things for US against our will that the community didn't actually want. The best games are and will remain those that don't require a mandatory internet connection to play. GD is a good example.
The new drop system is both amazing and frustrating at the same time. I think as a casual player, season 6 is going to be quite frustrating because relevant ancestrals are just so much harder to acquire. It felt like I needed to be able to reroll 2/3 affixes on every ancestral that dropped to benefit a specific build.
Its absolute no go Old mystique have to be at least 750 ,better 800 All ancestral with GA, have to be 800 All former 100 char have to be 60y and you spend just the missing points and why the hell resend all my paragon it took so much time to get this done Why drop rare and lower items,when they are useless, drop mats instead and let the let's collect it Or better, give a rare item a random affix when putting an aspect on them..they got useless when the lowered them to 2 affix
In 5 seasons, I've never been able to defeat any tormented boss on any class on any build. I've never had a mythic drop, even after ~50 kills of Tormented bosses with my clan.
@TheSwamper need to find a decent build where you just hold down all the buttons except 1 or 2. Just focus on movement at that point. A controller with additional mappable inputs is nice too. Have fun!
@@JustAFatherlyNerd - I can beat the normal mode bosses with no problem but cant solo the tormented. But im not bummed about it either to be honest. I think some things should be saved for the really good players so i have no complaints about that. If i need to be a T boss i just group up.
I defended the game and the devs long enough. You are spot on most topics. This ptr is literally a d3 reskin. I was myself a d3 player but this time I'll pass. I want a new experience. The devs deserves all the trolling that is coming to them. My hopes are with poe2.
I agree with some parts here. The loot thing is weird and I am not understanding this choice when we were vocal of our praise over it being nice now... The runewords though, I actually like this system a lot, like you said you did too, I feel this was the initial babystep for the system, their test so to speak. And while most are lack luster, I found the decrepify one with distance traveled coupled with petrify tied to invoking other class abilities was rather strong on barb. And then distance/warcry + Invoke/petrify felt good on other classes. Im hopeful here, still rather excited about everything coming even if some choices confused me (I still dont get the level cap thing... i dont get why they went back to this) Eh if I get bored there is PoE2 and Last Epoch
The gear did feel shocking underwhelming at first, but because they reworked levels, my play didn't need uber gear till much later, when I was able to earn it. As I advanced and tried out changes in the pit, and nightmare dungeons, which I have to say, are actually fun, and rewarding. The pit, is how you level up to higher tiers, and level up your glyphs as well. The XP to your glyphs is so much better than it was with nightmare dungeons, and I thought it was a great way to open higher levels too. The nightmare dungeons, go pretty fast, and drop items you need to summon bosses, as well as they have changed it so there is only obducite used, to pay for master crafting of all levels. So master crafting is so much better than it ever was. also leaving GR's to only Ancient and above felt good too, though you don't just get a level and only have Ancients drop, they don't drop as much, but every Ancient item, has at least 1 GR, guaranteed. I like what I have seen so far very much, and I went into the PTR thinking the worst, and even wondering if I should have invested so quickly in the expansion. I still only have one complaint for D4 as a whole. 1 stash, sharing all tabs between all characters in this age, with the tech available to give each character a stash of their own, with one tab for sharing with alts, is so 1990. I want to play more than one each season, with a stash that stands up to 2024 gaming, and the technology available, what they keep giving us, is 1994, diablo 1 stash limitations and it just makes no sense! If they put in micro transactions for space, it would sell, very well, but I get it if they don't want to do that, so why can't each character have their own stash, with 1 extra tab to put items to share with your alts? Their excuse was that every time you meet up with a player, all your stash loads, WHY? only what you have with you in your inventory should load, as we can't use things in our stash if we are not at our stash....
I think the devs are so out of touch with what would make a great exciting game that they just can never get it right. Or they have to wait until the player base tests everything out and tells them what to do, and then they make the changes. To their credit, they are getting a ton of testers for free and don’t have to pay anyone to do that.
What playerbase, just look at Slaydra not understanding why stat squish is important and what would be the reason for it Like, I get it, but let's do it right for once and not cry about nerfs
The OG Diablo dev team have long gone seeing Blizzard turn into a focus on gaming through corporate profits mindset first than actual game dev passion. Hence, all the nonchalant hires are newbs making their first baby steps creating this hot garbage full of bugs and nonsense.
For me, the best change that there's less loot. All of you complaining about that - are mad. Worst thing in the game is picking up full inventory of loot when the only reason for picking them is that so GA loot is visible in the pile.
Totally agree with most of the stuff said. Would be cool to add an actual leaderboards , armory (wardrobe) so we can swap easily between farming, push builds etc. Basic stuff right and also proper pvp system can make the game even more complete. Been playing pvp games pretty much for 7-8 years and I really miss it. I’m sure more players will vote for pvp action. On the gearing part , currently playing casually and honestly I geared 3 characters bis gear in 2 weeks with all the mytchics I don’t want to even touch D4 until s6 , because I have nothing left to do. Unless I want to try and push pits and kill my self from grinding just to progress like another 5-6 tiers… So it just gets really boring. Unless they add some endless systems with different rewards and seasonal pvp.
Do you know that Blues and Yellows are still a reliable source of Gold, even in the End Game? If it ALL gets auto salvaged by pets or drops as materials, then you eventually end up with tonnes of materials that do not get used. I personally think selling the so-called "useless" items for Gold is a better solution. This strategy has worked for me so far. What really annoys me though, is keeping earned Paragon points between characters. I'd rather that it remains as it is now, where you only get the 25 points earned from Renown, and each new hero (Alts) needs to actually work to earn their own paragon points. That makes each alt you create actually play and feel unique.
There's one (and i mean only one) positive about the Paragon boards. It allows you to adjust your build on the fly a lot easier. Maybe right now i need resistances so i can take that. In a few levels, maybe i can move points toward damage. It's a small silver lining but it's something
I would love to see some of the rune words reworked. Pretty much any rune word that does damage is useless and not worth sacrificing a main stat. I would love to see the teleport and meteorites from the sorc be changed to something like granting unstable currents, the blizzard enchantment, or flame shield. Similarly, one of the rogue rune words could be changed to poison imbue the next 2 core skills
This is my biggest concern too. It reminds me of the flaccid damage done by the season 3 companion. I remember Rob2628 had a video out around that time where he had the construct fighting a fly and he said "I don't know, I think my money is on the fly!" DarthMicrotransaction also had a video out where he had some wolves summoned and they looked awesome, then you see they do like 300 to 400 damage meanwhile his main core skill is doing 100k. Balance is completely out of wack.
@@ErikByrwa yeah from my testing, the only way to benefit from most of the runes that deal damage is because there are class specific aspects, uniques, or legendary nodes that buff that skill or add additional effects
It’s not really a nerf, they’re raising the power cap. Yes the item power number is lower, but no affixes are going to be lower. If you’re set up with good gear now you’re going to be fine getting through the new content
I love this idea. I generally play with damage numbers off because it makes me unable to see anything happening on the floor. Slaydra is 100% correct "Where is the character here?" Who knows! Its just a block of yellow numbers so tightly packed together they form a yellow rectangle around all the enemies, floor effects, and the character!
I played the ptr and made it to the top tier and got bored. I love when loot shower me (coming from looter shooter games) and I don't see myself playing much of diablo and re-downloading Destiny 2 again. They're crazy to think I'll invest some more time just to get 300 paragon points. The loot is trash and all the changes are trash IMO. They should've kept it the way it was and add the Runewords and such.
Actually I love your thoughts on a rune word system similar to Vampiric Powers. Imagine having all of your runes in something similar to the 5 socketed vampiric wheel. When you place in JahIthBer you get Enigma like powers. You could allow each character to have two active rune words. Would love this. Wouldn't be an item but just special powers.
Speaking of powers. Every class should automatically have an ultimate and have it not take up your skill slot. They can make ultimate activations by pressing two buttons together
Omg if they would have made Runes work like vamp powers from s2 that would have been an absolute home run major win for them. Instead they did...this. sigh.
Oh man. Runewords from D2 are seriously nothing special at all. They made 3/4 of the items in the game redundant and they were never changed or upgraded. Every class every build used the same couple that did the same thing. The d4 system makes no items in the game redundant. So guess what! The devs can actually make new and exciting items as the game progresses. If the runewords were an actual item, guess what! You run the risk of making them completely redundant by bringing new items into the game as it progresses. The d4 system is easily upgradeable changeable and has the ability to easily add more and different things without having an affect on the item balance. Do they need a little work at the moment, yes. The PTR is to give feedback on them though so they can be adjusted as needed. Not to talk smack and cry about and judge them. Stop whining and living in the past.
I am a big D2 player and you are right. I would however like to see these runes also add a few stats on top of the effect. Like + to Int , Resistances, + skills etc.
1 week of ptr was not long enough for non-blasters. I wanted to test out the ptr to try out the new progression system and try out runewords, and after 5 days of play (with about 5 to 6 hours of play, which comes to 25-30 hours total) i only had 5 runes but nothing to make a runeword with and i was only level 48. I was about a couple of days late to the ptr because i was still in travel returning from a week long trip when it started, and on the day before the ptr ended, i had to stop playing because i just became a little too tired to play action games. Again, i am not a blaster, i am somewhat of a hard-core casual that plays a lot but likes to take things slowly.
Kinda need "showers of loot" when the the drop chance and item variance is high on RNG with most items being trash and little options to actually craft. Its down to chance or trade, so that sucks.
IMO, Diablo 4 finally got to kind of a good place in S5 where players of all types (casuals, blasters, min-maxers, adventurers and innovaters) were pretty happy. It seems like it just needed some fine tuning and tweaking at its core. Instead S6/Expansion complete tears the game down to its foundation and changes nearly every interaction while moving away from other Diablo games and ever closer to D3. I do not think changes of this magnitude were needed or desired and that they are, as a whole, ill advised. I actually regret pre-ordering VoH now.
After reading and following all the changes for the expansion, it seems the expansion team were behind on how well the season team were cooking. I hope it balances out, but we shouldt be going backwards like the fact blues and yellows dont auto salvage from season 3
I realy dislike things just proccing out of my control. Had petrify proccing on my barb just out of range when moving to an elite pack than having to fight it without the proc. I like having control over my character
This is the second time they nerfed gear we EARNED. Total bs! There was no need to do this. This is the last time for me. If they EVER nerf my gear again, I am out and so is my money.
Hate hate hate the nerf on existing items. If they would just offer an opt-out hotkey so that items having no greater affix do not show, that would solve the problem as well, but would still allow for lots of loot.
the runes are ok but yea they aren't runewords, they shoulda named em something else. My guess is this si the first version of them then I'm sure in the NEXT expansion they will allow more sockets in items and will bring the real runewords to the game.
The best rune words in Diablo 2 were basically the mythic items of that era. I was never able to achieve the best rune words due to the extreme rarity of key runes for those words.
Back when David Kim introduced this dumb “runeword” system, the first thing I reacted was, this is just one single line in a runeword in D2. That’s just another passive, just like in D2 you got struck and activated Fade, or shoot an ice bolt, something like that. This is just so dumb. I would like to see they actually use like 4 or 5 sockets and activate a runeword at the cost of deactivating the legendary and unique power of the associated gears, and limit to one runeword for some obvious reason. Is this because David Kim knew he would be leaving Blizzard and just made a dumb move? This runeword system again, is stupid to be very polite.
What do you get for having a runeword that takes 6 Runes? What? Nothing. It just forces people to memorize the recipes and have to read online to figure it out. Then people would be complaining about how long they have to grind to get the 6 runes they needed. Remember they are catering to everyone they can. So you wanted them to be a good reason to keep magic or whites I guess. But they also are missing stats, compared to legendary Gear.
Runewords in Diablo 2 are just uniques with extra steps. This system, however flawed and dull, is much more exciting than D2's system, because we already have uniques.
@@SeanCaissey5 it’s one condition rune and one activation rune combo, back when David Kim introduced that, I only thought it’s just stupid to call it runeword. So basically yes from all the information I heard. Some cool things can be done, but just dumb.
YES thanks for saying that about Mythics. I only got 1 from playing Season 5... DAMN hard for players that are NOT with SUPER character builds. I suck at building characters and want to PLAY HOW I WANT to play. NOT following a guide and playing someone else's character !!!!....
I'm alright with the stat squish and reduced loot. There are way too much loot right now and damage numbers are in the D3 territory 😅. Reduced loot and reduced materials used for masterworking will work out.
I really don't want to go back to D3, this seems like the way the game is going. Its ok to appeal to the casual player but not at the expense of those who like to get right into a game and tinker as you said.
The only thing consistent about diablo 4 is bugs and disappointment. This game will die when path of exile 2 releases. The release of this expansion will be bugged and disfunctional for months until season 7 and at that point people will quit if they already dont purchase the expansion to begin with.
Dk why that did a stat squish without finishing balancing all builds that’s currently in game . That’s the main issue . Also it can’t be hard on dev side to test new aspects with current aspects for builds to immediately identify certain builds . Atp it is expected for dot builds to be bugged everytime a new aspect drops
I’ll just put it this way going from dropping 25 items per boss kill to 4 is an L. Getting at least 1 GA per every ancestral drop is a W however I have yet to see anyone I’ve watched on the ptr drop any ancestral items from boss kills or just general play so it seems like the drop rate for ancestral items is almost nonexistent which is an L. Drop rate needs a massive buff considering just getting a GA/ancestral item doesn’t magically make it good I’ve gotten thousands of GA items on live that get instantly dismantled because they’re trash and 100% unusable
For someone who doesn't know anything about the build being played in the video gotta say seeing the character spin and throw daggers really dumb. I know it does a lot of damage but it looks really dumb.
I don't get it how people can't complain about reducing amount of item drops. Now getting an ancient feel more like we having something better and rare. It is no perfect I will admin, we need proper item rework like for example get rid off stats like dmg on sunday but instead we need some stats which are more creative and let us think a while before we choose item. Slowing the game is absolutely must for the game because currently game is all about one spell casting another 5 more and cover whole map with visual effects. In current state there so no cd or resource management, people dont even using resource generator anymore because we have a lot cd reduction a lot of attack speed. Mythic items for me personally are the worst idea the game has to offer. A few overpower items that everyone will use because something else is just pointless. Blizzard adding new helmets for several classes and what for if we gonna choose shako always. I think people who complaining about slowing the game are the people who just wants have like 100 ancients per hour and clear highest content in 3 days and log off, that is not the way...
Is there a reason why they made huge strides forward with S4 & S5, just to change alot for S6 again? Just doesn't make sense. I never thought those items were worthless, that was gold, that was mats, that was aspects. I loved it lmao. Good luck getting aspects now.
how are we not getting screwed here ???. We worked our asses off to farm our ubers only to have them shit on us....This gets pulled again and I'm done with any Blizzard games. I mean wtf absolutely no consideration for the players who work for a living and don't have shit loads of time to farm... I cant tell ya how pissed I am. All that time farming to just have it taken from us. Please d4/Blizzard boot lickers spare me the "did you have fun farming though crap" I paid to play this game and invested my time to advance my character and his gear, nit to have the very company i gave my money to take a dump on me.... Done venting.
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What is concerning about this, is if you are reducing the loot... I can live with that. But if they don't do something about enchanting (try rolling +2 on envenom) or the worthless stats... I'll never get the gear I need.
Exactly dude they reduced the gear way to much season 5 was nice this just sucks drops suck lately there trying to slow game down because they still have no endgame
Exactly dude they reduced the gear way to much season 5 was nice this just sucks drops suck lately there trying to slow game down because they still have no endgame
and then you brick it with a bad temper and boom, your super rare ancestral is toast.
yea if they had increased the quality with 1/2/3+ga with reduced drops i don't think anyone would have minded, however with no increase in quality it just sucks lol
Was incredibly happy when I found a +2 Quickshift, 9% max attack speed necklace. I got the tempers and didn't brick it but then spent 500m getting +2 Envenom and that was my first roll of Envenom on my neck. I didn't get a bunch of +1's. It literally took me 500m to get my first roll of Envenom.
I don’t like the fact that they “legacy” our items again for season 6. I’m tired of them making my eternal realm characters obsolete. What happened to player progression?
Because it’s eternal. No one is playing eternal….no one…. You’re living in the Past. Grow up and play seasonal like an adult
@@walkerkraft9661 False, I play Eternal from time to time. I see plenty of level 100s playing. Not everyone wants to restart over n over. Eternal should scale to what we have not be depreciated.
@@walkerkraft9661 If it's the past why Eternal exist in the ACTUAL videogame ? Why you assume no one play in the eternal realm ? (I don't play eternal before you assume that as well) Why you link grown players with seasonal players only ? With this level of arrogance we can assume as well you are a kid.
There is a problem with 'progression'. Trying to 'progress' in a season seems pointless since it leads nowhere and becomes redundant next season. Plus all your hold and mats disappear.
@@walkerkraft9661Tell us you don't value your own time without telling us you don't value your own time.
Once again, ensure the lower amount of drops are actually useful and worth it. Instead of dropping blues and yellows in Torments, just drop the materials because we will salvage them most likely.
Honestly I'm ok with blues and yellows if they can drop ultra rare stats
Then how can they slow you down by making you go back to town every 10 minutes?
I will be waiting for at least a year when they fix the complexity and destoryed game-play. Or not at all. stu pid is as Stu Pod does?
It's such a blizzard move to hit a all time high followed by nerfing and smashing that success into the ground. lol
@jasonrice6966 you realize this a squish across the board right? So you won't be any less powerful or did you not listen to that part?
@@RickieJr And after the "squish" players are hitting for quadrillions Now players that can't read are going to complain even more !
My biggest issue is destroying our eternal characters. Why not just let them scale up when most players will be in seasonal. All my hard earned work n time farming and finalizing my builds gone.
I agree. It just feels like a punishment. I understand that the developers want the game to be “slower” but why kill off the Eternal characters? I don’t understand why undo all the work players do in terms of personal progression. Honestly doesn’t feel fun let alone make most people want to play seasons. Seasonal characters with No GA equals nerf is bad design especially with crappy drop rates. There are to many instances of killing a torment boss 22 items drop but no mythic unique and only 1 GA but is life per sec. Laughable
It is a bad idea when they decide to nerf all the items you've found especially getting the right tempered affixes and masterworked them. Not only that, it took me 2 seasons to get the mythic uniques and I don't like it when they nerfed it.
@@mauricebrown6182 It's their stupid mentality of "extending playtime". It blows my mind how clueless they are about stuff. I got so lucky on many of my enchantments and tempers. Now you're telling me my finished level 100 characters are essentially useless now, gee thanks alot.
@@Langaslangas Exactly all the bricked items I went through just to finally luck out and finally get all my tempers and enchantments i needed. I haven't found any Mythics but the items I have are near perfect for my builds. Now they're taking it all away, so damn stupid. I really hate when a game is finally in a good spot but due to streamers they nerf and completely change the games structure.
I seriously hope they don’t touch my eternal character. I got 4 mystic items. What a grind to get if you’re lucky and now you wanna trash it? I hope they don’t cross the lines but stay in seasonal stuff only.
Players are upset because all the time they spend for farming gear goes wasted for nothing...AGAIN.
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening.
@@ErikByrwaas i stated in a previous comment its funny how path of exile respects players time and invesments in characters during a season and moves all the gear you've farmed during a seaon to your standard characters but apprently D4 can't do that.
They really are just avoiding making a loot filter lmao
Mindblowing. Another reason y I can’t play n e more.. sad stash space too
Yep, if they make this change im gonna quit for POE2 , this is crazy I have insane build with full equip with exact stats all GA , 2 mythics 4GA others 2GA , spent hundreds of hours to achieve this and now I can throw it to the trash ? GG Blizzard
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@@skyzz0o dumb to play eternal anyway
@@RickieJr why dumb ?
Not everyone wants to start over every season that is pointless @@RickieJr
What's really dumb is ragging on someone for playing how they enjoy playing.
I've lost count how many times there were adjustment to itemization, that forced me to refarm all my myhic uniques. If I was interested in that, I would do seasons.
Say what!?
@@Dzugoslav Yeah I recently noticed my eternal uniques had conpletely different stats then the same item from seasonal. Hate it when they do this stuff, hate how our finalized Eternals are now massively depreciated.
@@michaelhuie5878 I mean I kinda get it, that with expansion itemization changes it is to be expected that current gear will be inferior. But to have such changes within seasons is nonsense. Retroactively such change could have been made for existing items. Not doing so is just padding and recycling content. Which feels very cheap and historically did not bode well for the game and its developer.
@@Dzugoslav It's just so annoying and stupid to have to refarm n re brick a whole bunch of items all over again. Esp after the changes from season 4. If this is going to be common practice then there's no point if our finalized characters are constantly depreciated every few months/every yr.
They should add a belt for the runes. Keep the dual socket in the helm. I think that will make up for a lot of the power issues imo
They need to add the real rune words like 3 and 4 words ( for now....and on others seasons more words how use 5 and 6 words)not this lame runes ...they Even need correct place for the Word .....boring
@@renzoescobar5 well that's not what we got. However getting a belt would make sense so we wouldn't lose out on the gem boost.
To completely reset the loot from a year worth of characters because of their poor testing/design/roadmap is really low IQ and low effort
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening.
Item reset prior to the one in season six was at the start of season 4 like 3 months ago. No one has lost a years worth of progress in that time.
Seems like you may have misunderstood what some of the reddit comments were talking about. Blizzard nerfed non GA gear, including uniques, to be pretty much useless (huge item power/stat nerf and 4/4 masterwork). The comments are saying the drop rate for GA non-mythic gear is far too low. Finding mythics won't be a problem because they have a guaranteed GA, the problem with the drop rate will be finding the GA uniques that are required for many builds. GA uniques should not be harder to find than mythics. Other than that you hit the nail on the head.
The biggest issue with reduced drops is going to be mats for enchanting and gold, if they dont adjust drops from how they are in ptr or dramatically change enchanting system then it is going to be very tough going; in addition to having to run the pit hundreds of times just for a small chance to uograde your high level glyphs you arent going to have mats for imprinting aspects or rerolling stats. Super fun.
1:00 Items being nerfed vs just adding Item Power 1200 on top of what we currently have. It accomplishes the same thing except a nerf is better for the game in the long run.
1:50 You guys first complained over too much loot in the inventory, now they're fixing it with less but higher quality drops. And now you 180 and actually prefer having the screen and inventory completely cluttered by garbage loot?? Make up your mind. You don't have to have the entire screen clogged with trash to be able to have the same chance of good meaningful drops. And by not cluttering the entire screen with trash pinatas you also don't need to baindaid it with a loot filter where the players put in extra work to fix the developer's bad game design decision.
5:29 "Runewords can't be called runewords because they're not 1 for 1 exact copies" but the Pit CAN be called Rifts because it's similar enough. Nice logic. Let's cry over the fact that they dared to name Frozen Orb Frozen Orb even though it is NOTHING like the Frozen Orb from D2. D4 runewords are socketable runes that make funny looking words and grant you different powers depending what runes you're using and they can also be used to create really insane Uniques. Combine the Runes to make a Tyrael and add your runeword to it. At least some donkey at Blizzard didn't decide that your rune would be wasted should you put it in in the wrong order.
Just make the pet auto-salvage the items you don't need, problem solved.
I hate uber uniques getting nerfed. Time wasted. It took me a lot of time to obtain them. Just sad
Yeah i get 10 uniques and grandpapa + 3 great affixes and now is gonna be garbage level 800????...poe2 u get a new player 😢
@@renzoescobar5 it will be at level 540.
We need to refarm or craft for 800 item power mythic uniques. Time wasted and Outrageous
@@martybryanli2552 WHAT!!!!! 😨
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening.
@@ErikByrwanerfing what we have already farmed just to refarm it again is not progression. It is ILLUSION of progression
They are not giving us anything, thay are TAKING AWAY what we already have for us to refarm the same gear (mythic uniques) again.
Take note that eternal players have different views relative to seasonal players
Refarming the same stuff is not appealing, at least for me…
What was the point of s4:Loot Reborn and s5:More Loot and "some" Balance - if for s6 is just undoing everything they just put in? Let's be honest, this is the 3rd month of these changes, I'm blaming the xpac.. they designed the xpac around level 60 and less of everything.. yet the base game went off in a different direction.. so, instead on bringing the xpac up the base game.. they basically nerf everything to meet the demands of the xpac. Spiritborn, is going to be so OP (they want us to play this new class).. I'll bet a $1 with get even more nerfs (huge ones too) by the time s8 or s9 roll out.
@@toadieC1970 Another case of them not knowing what they're doing. Only listening to the 1% streamers n no lifers. Such a stupid n terrible design choice.
Why are the devs ignoring loot filter? Its been requsted since like season 1. Honest question. I will watch a video theorizing why they're so stubborn with loot filter
If we’re getting less loot and poor loot then that’s something that I don’t want to grind or experience. This “have to have GA” thing is stupid. Not excited at all for this.
Believe it or not i have heard players saying things like "I wish a legendary drop once every 6 months or so, and have a high chance to be bricked so i have something to do, i love when a game super grindy" they actually salivate with the thought and i cant get my head around it, in MY opinion that's the mentality of someone that has fking nothing else to do in life.
@@DARKCOP2011 That's crazy talk. lol I don't want drops to be easy but I also don't want them to be so rare that I don't feel like I'm getting rewarding for playing. We play ARPGs for loot drops. Find a nice middle ground.
Dude. They were never going to nerf our damage. They just slowed our ascent to those numbers.
I really do t like content locked behind group play… If I wanted to have to play in a group I’d play WOW… And when they added group finder to WOW it was horrible… Most people using the finder had no idea of the mechanics etc and caused a huge waste of time… I bought this as a singer play game with group options which is perfect…
Making old gear worthless is unacceptable my eternal characters are sad.
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening.
All my hard work and finally get a Mythic Unique I wanted, just to find out it will be worthless. Please leave our Mythic’s alone.
what do you mean? what did they do to the mythics?
@@_irson7616 Any current mythic you have are getting reduced to level 540 despite the fact that Mythics can only drop at max level. Max level in 2.0 is 800 and all new Mythics will drop at that level. There is no reason to not convert existing Mythics to the new max level of 800 and not 540. Some have pointed out that currently the affixes stay the same but the DPS of weapons, armor value and elemental damage reduction of rings will be dramatically reduced as they follow the item level.
@@Chadwick5324 Well that was to be expected i guess? I thought op meant something else
@Chadwick5324 it is simply cause the number smash. They crunched the level so if they leave them the same that means those mythic stats will be beyond new game mythics. It's sad but true.
essentially the message that blizz wants everyone to know is “your time investment is a waste of time” Because everything just gets nerfed or deleted every patch or every OTHER patch (everything turning legacy on eternal realm). Game is just a forced seasonal game.
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening.
Remove glyph chance to upgrade. Just allow to upgrade
This is going to be a HUGE drag once you get your glyph into the 90s, I hate to even think how many pit runs it could end up taking to advance from 90-100 since it will just be a small chance at an upgrade each run. Just horrific, there was nothing wrong with the way it was they just needed to add a couple more ways to get glyph XP instead of overhauling the entire system to clone D3.
@@tasandmnm69It will take forever to upgrade glyphs something that you do in 1hr in nmd100 in current season
This is a strategy they put on EVERYTHING they have, just to have you in your little wheel all day, if they have quality content there was no reason for stupid things like "chance to get something".
This is what happens when you only let one part of the community test the game.
To my knowledge the only way to get on PTR is if u purchased the game on blizzard’s actual website
I don’t have tons of time to play. The fact that they want to nerf my gear, for the second season in a row, is a deal breaker.
I play eternal. I worked really hard all season to replace everything from the loot rework.
Now poof.
Oh but don’t worry they say it’s awesome!
It doesn’t feel awesome, it’s feels like punishment for succeeding.
F all that
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening.
@@adamgoad4131 Yeah I hate they're depreciating our Eterrnals instead of scaling them up. All of our time n effort n luck to get the right tempers n enchantments gone. The countless bricked items just to finally get what we needed meaningless. So stupid.
Because there doesn't seem to be an end to the number of item resets the devs are going to do.
I'm not gonna spend the rest of my life levelling up over and over again and reacquiring slightly different versions of the same items.
Diablo is still figuring things out with all these drastic changes even when the damn expansion is coming out. That's pretty f'd up in that they basically still have an unfinished beta game yet they have an exp coming up 🤦. That pisses me off having spent all this time just adjusting to changes like herded sheep.
I think that’s the definition of a seasonal model
@@rogerh2694 It's fine there is an expansion coming, however after the disaster of many "reborns" this game has gone through, then to actually charge $40 for an expansion when the base game is still in Beta phases as we speak is where the problem lays.
Poe is always there for us all.. n shortly poe2 will b in early access.both r free. I highly recommend any “casual” to try either out because I’m a casual myself n thoroughly enjoy Poe. The devs actually care about the game n listen to the community- funny thing is- it works lmao😂. Who would of thought listening to the community would continuously improve a game 🥴
The team will always, on occasion, reset item progression by marking existing items as legacy. This will not stop. They do this intentionally to give more room for item progression to eternal players. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens on average two times each year.
what they should do for the runewards is add sockets to gloves and boots just for them, so we dont lose current gem slots for them. unless they fix them up to be more powerful and meaningful
Every season, every expansion, they make my chars obsolete. I can't play my char. They force me to start over. I literally finished the game in season 5 with all the mythics and everything. I was preparing that char for the new expansion and guess what? My items will be legacy because they keep changing them. Deliberate mistakes and deliberate solutions with the intention of selling more content.
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening.
As for the expansion, you'll easily be able to play it with legacy gear. You will easily make it to torment 2 or 3 depending on your build.
@@ErikByrwa you don't understand what I mean if the progress stops finishing the content doesn't mean anything. This is a game of progress but it turned into a seasonal, temporary shit over time. I have been playing the game since D1 and believe me these things are new.
I'd already made the decision, due to their terrible customer service, that I wasn't going to buy the expansion and therefore will probably be locked out of season 6/D4 until it is released on GamePass. The fact that they have, essentially, made D4 "D3.5" with increasing numbers of re-hashed ideas from D3 and then have the nerve to try to charge you for this crap has solidified this decision. Just when you thought you'd stopped being an unpaid Alpha tester they're going to release an expansion and break the entire game again. I mean, look at the PTR and the stronghold exploit; how does this crap get into a PTR so close to actual release date? After over 20 years of playing most of their franchises to death I doubt I will ever buy another Blizzard game. Thank god for Last Epoch and PoE/PoE2.
If you pre-ordered the dlc, you are the reason this game will continue to suck. By purchasing the dlc, you've told the devs, "Even though this game launched in a poor beta state and has only gotten slightly better a year after release, I support and reward you. I understand that there is no endgame a year after release, and the base game is still missing tons of basic features, I reward you for this piss poor game"
Delusional lil rat 😂😂
I've bought the ultimate edition of the game and pre-ordered the $100 version. I have enjoyed every season so far. Has the game been perfect? No, but a game doesn't need to be perfect to be fun.
@@ErikByrwa good for you, some of us don't want to reward a billion dollar company for putting out an unfinished product and some like you do. More power to you.
I like the game
@@izanagiorochi6324 Well you see, I am not a virgin loser. So I don't cry when the game I play isn't 100% perfect.
Why not a bigger inventory? Am I the only one that thinks that would be okay? I'll take 20 items as a drop instead of 3 if I know my inventory can hold more.
They either need to increase the number of drops, or RADICALLY reduce the cost of tempering and masterworking....otherwise you will be utterly broke all the time starved for materials.
When it goes live, we won't be able to click on the demon and make everything better. Season 6 will be the season of materials farming. The other option to to RADICALLY reduce the RNG and make things deterministic.....but we all know that everyone is addicted to gambling and that will never happen.
Exactly! Spend 170k obs just to hit 3x cooldown on Shako. Thats absurd, imagine that for 10 more items, if you are lucky to get a godly one. And doing multiple T4 pit 85-90 without an GA item feels so awful.
@@Mister_Vintage They need to put a gold cap on enchanting and remove the cap on tempers. Esp since 80% of the time the same useless stat rolls over n over.
The challenge with Runewords in Diablo 4 (D4) is that they might be designed to avoid the same pitfalls that occurred previously In D2. In D2 (Diablo 2), once Runewords were introduced, traditional gear-such as Windforce (WF) or Grandfather (GF)-quickly became obsolete and was no longer considered optimal for any build. This shift meant that only items that couldn’t hold a Runeword, such as certain helms (often chosen for budget reasons), rings, belts, boots, and gloves, remained relevant. Essentially, the game’s focus shifted towards runes and Runewords as the primary means for effective magic finding.
There were rare instances where high-end armor, like those with 120-60 (IAS, Max, Min and even Facets to a different degree), might still be used. However, the prevailing sentiment among many players I’ve spoken with, as well as from my own experiences in D2, is that Runewords significantly altered the game dynamics. This change may have inadvertently diminished some of the game’s original aspects, highlighting the importance of balancing new features with existing game mechanics. For reference, I've played since around the start of Diablo I and through all the iterations of Diablo (i.e., I, II, III, and now IV). I share the view that this feature might have been better received if it had been named something entirely different.
@@GothicDemise 100000% agree
D2 LoD became the best game with 1.10 and later patches. As Long as teleport is in the game as it was designed, it is the mightest skill of the game and Therefor a Core item to obtain with Enigma. Enigma also gives you the ability to wear Most gear without spending anything/too much in strenght
But u can use the runewords on this uniques now ...the only obsolete ítems are white,blue and yellow.....they can use a little brain and Say u need this x Unique to use full power of this runeWord or something like that...
@@RickieJr In the current iteration of Diablo 4, a promising way to integrate runewords while keeping loot farming relevant and balanced is by using existing socketable gear and treating runes as advanced gems. Each rune would provide a smaller, individual buff when applied to an item. Once the runeword is assembled within your existing gear, these runes would combine to create a singular, unique effect that evolves from the individual rune buffs, rather than drastically altering the item.
For balancing, the effects could be tied to the scaling factor of item power. The creation of runewords could be a simple drag-and-drop system, similar to how gems are handled, or through a menu that scans your current runes in your stash and character. This menu would provide an in-game dropdown of available runewords that can be created, while also allowing you to view existing runewords and their effects for future planning. This approach would avoid the pitfall of Diablo 2, where runewords created entirely new items, by instead enhancing the current items already available. It adds another layer to work towards without alienating anything or anyone.
This method would maintain the value of current gear and offer hardcore min-max players a goal to pursue, while ensuring that players who do not engage with runewords remain competitive and do not feel left behind. Additionally, it would preserve the excitement and fun of discovering those super rolled unique drops. Just my thoughts on how the system should be handled.
@@GothicDemise why are you quoting me? I agreed with you
Hey blizzard you listening!!!! Leave our gear alone!!!! Or we’ll play outside!!! I’d rather go fishing 🎣 at this point . Wasted time won’t be done twice!
The best fix for inventory issues is don't limit how much we can carry, it's really simple. Why can't we just carry everything I mean carrying a lot of crap doesn't make you overpowered 🤣 just makes exploring more convenient.
In my opinion, Diablo 4 is good the way it is now. But no, Blizzard has to completely change D4 again and make all previously collected items on every single character "legacy" once again nice. Like lowering item levels and ruining everything. That's why most people don't want LIVE SERVICE! We don't need a publisher that often changes things for US against our will that the community didn't actually want. The best games are and will remain those that don't require a mandatory internet connection to play. GD is a good example.
The new drop system is both amazing and frustrating at the same time. I think as a casual player, season 6 is going to be quite frustrating because relevant ancestrals are just so much harder to acquire. It felt like I needed to be able to reroll 2/3 affixes on every ancestral that dropped to benefit a specific build.
This video explained exactly how I feel about the future of D4. S4 was perfect, all of the changes about itemization in the current PTR feels bad
Its absolute no go
Old mystique have to be at least 750 ,better 800
All ancestral with GA, have to be 800
All former 100 char have to be 60y and you spend just the missing points and why the hell resend all my paragon it took so much time to get this done
Why drop rare and lower items,when they are useless, drop mats instead and let the let's collect it
Or better, give a rare item a random affix when putting an aspect on them..they got useless when the lowered them to 2 affix
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening.
In 5 seasons, I've never been able to defeat any tormented boss on any class on any build. I've never had a mythic drop, even after ~50 kills of Tormented bosses with my clan.
Bad rng, but you not being able to defeat a tormented boss is honestly a skill issue, or your gear isn't good enough.
@@JustAFatherlyNerd No argument. I'm a senior, and my wrists/reactions skills ain't what they used to be.
@TheSwamper need to find a decent build where you just hold down all the buttons except 1 or 2. Just focus on movement at that point. A controller with additional mappable inputs is nice too. Have fun!
@@HappytimeHarrEy I can do that. What I can't do is dodge all the blasts, bad sections of floor, circles of death, etc.
@@JustAFatherlyNerd - I can beat the normal mode bosses with no problem but cant solo the tormented. But im not bummed about it either to be honest. I think some things should be saved for the really good players so i have no complaints about that. If i need to be a T boss i just group up.
I disagree. I hate the fact that so much useless loot drops in Diablo. So so much busy work.
I just really don’t like nerfs I think they should be in the mindset of buff first ask questions later.
I defended the game and the devs long enough. You are spot on most topics. This ptr is literally a d3 reskin. I was myself a d3 player but this time I'll pass. I want a new experience. The devs deserves all the trolling that is coming to them. My hopes are with poe2.
I agree with some parts here. The loot thing is weird and I am not understanding this choice when we were vocal of our praise over it being nice now... The runewords though, I actually like this system a lot, like you said you did too, I feel this was the initial babystep for the system, their test so to speak. And while most are lack luster, I found the decrepify one with distance traveled coupled with petrify tied to invoking other class abilities was rather strong on barb. And then distance/warcry + Invoke/petrify felt good on other classes. Im hopeful here, still rather excited about everything coming even if some choices confused me (I still dont get the level cap thing... i dont get why they went back to this) Eh if I get bored there is PoE2 and Last Epoch
Level cap nerfed to 60 😤. That's cheap.
It was 50 🤣
You're getting more skill points because as @chriskemp8366 pointed out you're getting 10 more levels. It is a buff.
The gear did feel shocking underwhelming at first, but because they reworked levels, my play didn't need uber gear till much later, when I was able to earn it. As I advanced and tried out changes in the pit, and nightmare dungeons, which I have to say, are actually fun, and rewarding. The pit, is how you level up to higher tiers, and level up your glyphs as well. The XP to your glyphs is so much better than it was with nightmare dungeons, and I thought it was a great way to open higher levels too. The nightmare dungeons, go pretty fast, and drop items you need to summon bosses, as well as they have changed it so there is only obducite used, to pay for master crafting of all levels. So master crafting is so much better than it ever was. also leaving GR's to only Ancient and above felt good too, though you don't just get a level and only have Ancients drop, they don't drop as much, but every Ancient item, has at least 1 GR, guaranteed. I like what I have seen so far very much, and I went into the PTR thinking the worst, and even wondering if I should have invested so quickly in the expansion. I still only have one complaint for D4 as a whole. 1 stash, sharing all tabs between all characters in this age, with the tech available to give each character a stash of their own, with one tab for sharing with alts, is so 1990. I want to play more than one each season, with a stash that stands up to 2024 gaming, and the technology available, what they keep giving us, is 1994, diablo 1 stash limitations and it just makes no sense! If they put in micro transactions for space, it would sell, very well, but I get it if they don't want to do that, so why can't each character have their own stash, with 1 extra tab to put items to share with your alts? Their excuse was that every time you meet up with a player, all your stash loads, WHY? only what you have with you in your inventory should load, as we can't use things in our stash if we are not at our stash....
I think the devs are so out of touch with what would make a great exciting game that they just can never get it right. Or they have to wait until the player base tests everything out and tells them what to do, and then they make the changes. To their credit, they are getting a ton of testers for free and don’t have to pay anyone to do that.
What playerbase, just look at Slaydra not understanding why stat squish is important and what would be the reason for it
Like, I get it, but let's do it right for once and not cry about nerfs
Which is dumb cause s4 and s5 r amazing
Seriously? Every single take that Slaydra has in this video is wrong.
The OG Diablo dev team have long gone seeing Blizzard turn into a focus on gaming through corporate profits mindset first than actual game dev passion. Hence, all the nonchalant hires are newbs making their first baby steps creating this hot garbage full of bugs and nonsense.
@@jw3807Wow definitely not.
Solution: add Lootfilter, keep droprates like season 5 & let the PET scrap/sell everything else dropping on the ground
Good video, game is good but its missing a lot of easy fixes. Loot filter, auction houses and overlay map would be huge.
For me, the best change that there's less loot. All of you complaining about that - are mad. Worst thing in the game is picking up full inventory of loot when the only reason for picking them is that so GA loot is visible in the pile.
I wont be playing season 6 or purchasing the dlc. No money from me
Totally agree with most of the stuff said. Would be cool to add an actual leaderboards , armory (wardrobe) so we can swap easily between farming, push builds etc. Basic stuff right and also proper pvp system can make the game even more complete. Been playing pvp games pretty much for 7-8 years and I really miss it. I’m sure more players will vote for pvp action.
On the gearing part , currently playing casually and honestly I geared 3 characters bis gear in 2 weeks with all the mytchics I don’t want to even touch D4 until s6 , because I have nothing left to do.
Unless I want to try and push pits and kill my self from grinding just to progress like another 5-6 tiers… So it just gets really boring. Unless they add some endless systems with different rewards and seasonal pvp.
The D2 runeword sistem was amazing back in 2003 . Nowadays there would be a lot of backlash if they simply copied that .
Do you know that Blues and Yellows are still a reliable source of Gold, even in the End Game? If it ALL gets auto salvaged by pets or drops as materials, then you eventually end up with tonnes of materials that do not get used. I personally think selling the so-called "useless" items for Gold is a better solution. This strategy has worked for me so far.
What really annoys me though, is keeping earned Paragon points between characters. I'd rather that it remains as it is now, where you only get the 25 points earned from Renown, and each new hero (Alts) needs to actually work to earn their own paragon points. That makes each alt you create actually play and feel unique.
There's one (and i mean only one) positive about the Paragon boards. It allows you to adjust your build on the fly a lot easier.
Maybe right now i need resistances so i can take that. In a few levels, maybe i can move points toward damage. It's a small silver lining but it's something
Players: "Make rare items useful"
Blizzard: "Let's make legendaries useless too (unless they're GA)" 😂
I would love to see some of the rune words reworked. Pretty much any rune word that does damage is useless and not worth sacrificing a main stat. I would love to see the teleport and meteorites from the sorc be changed to something like granting unstable currents, the blizzard enchantment, or flame shield. Similarly, one of the rogue rune words could be changed to poison imbue the next 2 core skills
This is my biggest concern too. It reminds me of the flaccid damage done by the season 3 companion. I remember Rob2628 had a video out around that time where he had the construct fighting a fly and he said "I don't know, I think my money is on the fly!" DarthMicrotransaction also had a video out where he had some wolves summoned and they looked awesome, then you see they do like 300 to 400 damage meanwhile his main core skill is doing 100k. Balance is completely out of wack.
@@ErikByrwa yeah from my testing, the only way to benefit from most of the runes that deal damage is because there are class specific aspects, uniques, or legendary nodes that buff that skill or add additional effects
It’s not really a nerf, they’re raising the power cap. Yes the item power number is lower, but no affixes are going to be lower. If you’re set up with good gear now you’re going to be fine getting through the new content
The d3 style numbers should atleast be a TOGGABLE OPTION.
I love this idea. I generally play with damage numbers off because it makes me unable to see anything happening on the floor. Slaydra is 100% correct "Where is the character here?" Who knows! Its just a block of yellow numbers so tightly packed together they form a yellow rectangle around all the enemies, floor effects, and the character!
Why don't they just make items salvageable at the boss where u put the mats?.. just put another tab there
I played the ptr and made it to the top tier and got bored. I love when loot shower me (coming from looter shooter games) and I don't see myself playing much of diablo and re-downloading Destiny 2 again. They're crazy to think I'll invest some more time just to get 300 paragon points. The loot is trash and all the changes are trash IMO. They should've kept it the way it was and add the Runewords and such.
Actually I love your thoughts on a rune word system similar to Vampiric Powers. Imagine having all of your runes in something similar to the 5 socketed vampiric wheel. When you place in JahIthBer you get Enigma like powers. You could allow each character to have two active rune words. Would love this. Wouldn't be an item but just special powers.
Speaking of powers. Every class should automatically have an ultimate and have it not take up your skill slot.
They can make ultimate activations by pressing two buttons together
Omg if they would have made Runes work like vamp powers from s2 that would have been an absolute home run major win for them. Instead they did...this. sigh.
Oh man. Runewords from D2 are seriously nothing special at all. They made 3/4 of the items in the game redundant and they were never changed or upgraded. Every class every build used the same couple that did the same thing.
The d4 system makes no items in the game redundant. So guess what! The devs can actually make new and exciting items as the game progresses. If the runewords were an actual item, guess what! You run the risk of making them completely redundant by bringing new items into the game as it progresses. The d4 system is easily upgradeable changeable and has the ability to easily add more and different things without having an affect on the item balance. Do they need a little work at the moment, yes. The PTR is to give feedback on them though so they can be adjusted as needed. Not to talk smack and cry about and judge them.
Stop whining and living in the past.
I am a big D2 player and you are right. I would however like to see these runes also add a few stats on top of the effect. Like + to Int , Resistances, + skills etc.
@@Touchin-Grass They certainly do need a little more flare.
D4 unwillingly making PoE2 look good and setting them up for a massive success. RIP D4, Welcome PoE2!
To be fair. If they less the drop rate I'm fine with it along as they make it feel like getting double affixe gear gets increased
1 week of ptr was not long enough for non-blasters. I wanted to test out the ptr to try out the new progression system and try out runewords, and after 5 days of play (with about 5 to 6 hours of play, which comes to 25-30 hours total) i only had 5 runes but nothing to make a runeword with and i was only level 48. I was about a couple of days late to the ptr because i was still in travel returning from a week long trip when it started, and on the day before the ptr ended, i had to stop playing because i just became a little too tired to play action games. Again, i am not a blaster, i am somewhat of a hard-core casual that plays a lot but likes to take things slowly.
The rune stones need their own slots in the items
Say it with me. P. T. R
You also didn’t play season 6 lol…you tried out a few systems. The theme and mechanics of season 6 aren’t even in the game.
even when you get a GA item 80% of the time it's trash!!
Kinda need "showers of loot" when the the drop chance and item variance is high on RNG with most items being trash and little options to actually craft. Its down to chance or trade, so that sucks.
IMO, Diablo 4 finally got to kind of a good place in S5 where players of all types (casuals, blasters, min-maxers, adventurers and innovaters) were pretty happy. It seems like it just needed some fine tuning and tweaking at its core. Instead S6/Expansion complete tears the game down to its foundation and changes nearly every interaction while moving away from other Diablo games and ever closer to D3. I do not think changes of this magnitude were needed or desired and that they are, as a whole, ill advised. I actually regret pre-ordering VoH now.
After reading and following all the changes for the expansion, it seems the expansion team were behind on how well the season team were cooking. I hope it balances out, but we shouldt be going backwards like the fact blues and yellows dont auto salvage from season 3
I realy dislike things just proccing out of my control. Had petrify proccing on my barb just out of range when moving to an elite pack than having to fight it without the proc. I like having control over my character
This is the second time they nerfed gear we EARNED. Total bs! There was no need to do this. This is the last time for me. If they EVER nerf my gear again, I am out and so is my money.
Exactly how Blizz will learn their lesson. Quit paying / playing ...
Hate hate hate the nerf on existing items. If they would just offer an opt-out hotkey so that items having no greater affix do not show, that would solve the problem as well, but would still allow for lots of loot.
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening.
People will continue to die from Cancer also Dr Glum.
Thank god they reducing the loot. This isn’t an arcade game
Less loot is better, from start to finish 👌
the runes are ok but yea they aren't runewords, they shoulda named em something else. My guess is this si the first version of them then I'm sure in the NEXT expansion they will allow more sockets in items and will bring the real runewords to the game.
The best rune words in Diablo 2 were basically the mythic items of that era. I was never able to achieve the best rune words due to the extreme rarity of key runes for those words.
Back when David Kim introduced this dumb “runeword” system, the first thing I reacted was, this is just one single line in a runeword in D2. That’s just another passive, just like in D2 you got struck and activated Fade, or shoot an ice bolt, something like that. This is just so dumb. I would like to see they actually use like 4 or 5 sockets and activate a runeword at the cost of deactivating the legendary and unique power of the associated gears, and limit to one runeword for some obvious reason. Is this because David Kim knew he would be leaving Blizzard and just made a dumb move? This runeword system again, is stupid to be very polite.
they're basically "when you do this, this other thing happens" legendary aspects? Im console so I cannot access ptr. Correct me if I'm wrong
What do you get for having a runeword that takes 6 Runes? What? Nothing. It just forces people to memorize the recipes and have to read online to figure it out. Then people would be complaining about how long they have to grind to get the 6 runes they needed. Remember they are catering to everyone they can. So you wanted them to be a good reason to keep magic or whites I guess. But they also are missing stats, compared to legendary Gear.
Runewords in Diablo 2 are just uniques with extra steps. This system, however flawed and dull, is much more exciting than D2's system, because we already have uniques.
@@SeanCaissey5 it’s one condition rune and one activation rune combo, back when David Kim introduced that, I only thought it’s just stupid to call it runeword. So basically yes from all the information I heard. Some cool things can be done, but just dumb.
@@Narfmann369 hahahahahaha you're delusional. It's not exciting at all
‘Slowing down the game’ is just a nice way of saying that they have nothing new and original to offer us.
YES thanks for saying that about Mythics. I only got 1 from playing Season 5... DAMN hard for players that are NOT with SUPER character builds.
I suck at building characters and want to PLAY HOW I WANT to play. NOT following a guide and playing someone else's character !!!!....
Agree with everthing you and other people said. Played the PTR and felt the same. Be vocal about it give feedback because all this need to be changed.
I'm alright with the stat squish and reduced loot. There are way too much loot right now and damage numbers are in the D3 territory 😅. Reduced loot and reduced materials used for masterworking will work out.
Too many people want INSTANT gratification these days.....i like the grind
rune words destroyed
was hyped for season 6 but man saw people break ptr and we know we are geting 1/8 of that
The real problem is everyone wants this game to be easy and take no effort to be good at the game….
They're scaling the game for pay to win gimmicks. Less mats and gold for upgrades means real money to catch up in a season.
I really don't want to go back to D3, this seems like the way the game is going. Its ok to appeal to the casual player but not at the expense of those who like to get right into a game and tinker as you said.
The only thing consistent about diablo 4 is bugs and disappointment. This game will die when path of exile 2 releases. The release of this expansion will be bugged and disfunctional for months until season 7 and at that point people will quit if they already dont purchase the expansion to begin with.
u really think that casual dads from d4 who moan and cry when they have to grind for 5 minutes will play Path of exile ???? LMAO
Dk why that did a stat squish without finishing balancing all builds that’s currently in game . That’s the main issue .
Also it can’t be hard on dev side to test new aspects with current aspects for builds to immediately identify certain builds .
Atp it is expected for dot builds to be bugged everytime a new aspect drops
I’ll just put it this way going from dropping 25 items per boss kill to 4 is an L. Getting at least 1 GA per every ancestral drop is a W however I have yet to see anyone I’ve watched on the ptr drop any ancestral items from boss kills or just general play so it seems like the drop rate for ancestral items is almost nonexistent which is an L. Drop rate needs a massive buff considering just getting a GA/ancestral item doesn’t magically make it good I’ve gotten thousands of GA items on live that get instantly dismantled because they’re trash and 100% unusable
For someone who doesn't know anything about the build being played in the video gotta say seeing the character spin and throw daggers really dumb. I know it does a lot of damage but it looks really dumb.
I don't get it how people can't complain about reducing amount of item drops. Now getting an ancient feel more like we having something better and rare. It is no perfect I will admin, we need proper item rework like for example get rid off stats like dmg on sunday but instead we need some stats which are more creative and let us think a while before we choose item. Slowing the game is absolutely must for the game because currently game is all about one spell casting another 5 more and cover whole map with visual effects. In current state there so no cd or resource management, people dont even using resource generator anymore because we have a lot cd reduction a lot of attack speed. Mythic items for me personally are the worst idea the game has to offer. A few overpower items that everyone will use because something else is just pointless. Blizzard adding new helmets for several classes and what for if we gonna choose shako always. I think people who complaining about slowing the game are the people who just wants have like 100 ancients per hour and clear highest content in 3 days and log off, that is not the way...
Rubewords ruined words
Rob made infinite damage ww barbarian
Is there a reason why they made huge strides forward with S4 & S5, just to change alot for S6 again? Just doesn't make sense.
I never thought those items were worthless, that was gold, that was mats, that was aspects. I loved it lmao. Good luck getting aspects now.
Less loot is fine. We dont want loot pinatas. Quality is missing no quantity.
how are we not getting screwed here ???. We worked our asses off to farm our ubers only to have them shit on us....This gets pulled again and I'm done with any Blizzard games. I mean wtf absolutely no consideration for the players who work for a living and don't have shit loads of time to farm... I cant tell ya how pissed I am. All that time farming to just have it taken from us. Please d4/Blizzard boot lickers spare me the "did you have fun farming though crap" I paid to play this game and invested my time to advance my character and his gear, nit to have the very company i gave my money to take a dump on me.... Done venting.
Item resets will always occur from time to time to give eternal players more itemization progress to chase after. This won't stop happening.