The Most Obscure MOM Lore || TTC 456

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  • @davewindjack
    @davewindjack ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Was looking forward to hearing about people's moms, this wasn't that. :p

  • @dustinjohnson9968
    @dustinjohnson9968 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    A small one I would like to add is the card Death-Greeter’s Champion is depicted in the secret lair art of Alesha, Who Smiles at Death and thankfully works really well with her.

  • @gamerbear84
    @gamerbear84 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So Regatha was mostly featured in the novel The Purifying Fire, which stars Chandra who has been spending time at the Keral Keep getting tutored in fire magic by the keep's matron, Mother Luti, who as it turns out is Jaya Ballard, the very planeswalker who long ago inspired the monks that founded the keep.

  • @ellahazan-fuchs7249
    @ellahazan-fuchs7249 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's important to know that Thomil and Worzel, who fought on Segovia (mentioned on Segovian Angel's flavor text) also fought on Ergamon, so that's an additional piece of information that we have.
    In addition, my favourite all time reference in this set is Merciless Repurposing's flavor text. The card depicts Urabrask's death and the flavor text is: As the harvesters bore away the last of his limbs, what remained of Urabrask heard Elesh Norn say, “Leave the traitor be.” This is a reference to original Urabrask's flavor text: When the Mirran resistance arrived, the furnace dwellers looked to Urabrask for guidance. His decree stunned the others: “Let them be.” It's incredibly satisfying to me.
    A third reference is The True Scriptures on the backside of Sheoldred - those are the phyrexian scriptures, the exact same words in phyrexian were shown on the card Phyrexian Scriptures and given to us on the Urza's Saga print of Dark Ritual's flavor text: “From void evolved Phyrexia. Great Yawgmoth, Father of Machines, saw its perfection. Thus the Grand Evolution began”. Always love when they call back to those because they seem to be the core of maybe all of Phyrexia's philosophy.

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not said that they fought on Segovia, just that the Angels were summoned to fight Gigantikari gnats.

  • @spikysmoothness
    @spikysmoothness ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In regards to the petraglyphs, the artist who did Ruxa from Strixhaven, wanted to make the runes Ruxa was writing to be the ones depicted ON the Petraglyphs card, and I think they got most of them on there but ended up not being able to fit them all

  • @dylanschleben5558
    @dylanschleben5558 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If we ever get an Ergamon set we should get an "Invasive Species" joke with a bear that has somehow been brought to the plane.

  • @christrousdale6634
    @christrousdale6634 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey wheeler, if you read this, I love your incredible lore/card memory. You're great.
    It's been great to be here, thanks for having me.

  • @drunkgerbil9962
    @drunkgerbil9962 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I see the Wheel man himself: I click and wheel myself in.

  • @flameofmage1099
    @flameofmage1099 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Magic lore is so cool. I bet this set was awesome who know the lore really well. I can just imagine someone just being like "Oh my God Moag!"

  • @axelostlund2348
    @axelostlund2348 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    So far these lore dives have been a pleasant breeze.

    • @Addeand
      @Addeand ปีที่แล้ว

      menade du "a breath of fresh air"?

    • @axelostlund2348
      @axelostlund2348 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Addeand I did meant pleasant breeze in the poetic sense. Something calm in the whir of everything. Breath of fresh air is not quite what I would call this, as they do somewhat similar content, but you could say that too.

  • @NoctisVigil
    @NoctisVigil ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see some more lore videos in the future, this was fun.

  • @dylanjoyce8104
    @dylanjoyce8104 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Obscure mom lore. Or when mom gets drunk and drops some wild stories about illigal shit she did.

  • @fargoretro
    @fargoretro ปีที่แล้ว

    "These assholes are back... and they brought pointy bits from the sky?" - Timberland Ancient

  • @campbellolney9753
    @campbellolney9753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I genuinely love hearing about magic lore. I rarely have time to read the stories or anything, but i think it is a lot of fun

  • @elitearmsgaming5732
    @elitearmsgaming5732 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In the books, Teyo is sparked and after being left in the diamond storm and plansewalks to Ravnica where he finds the guildless Araithia "Rat" Shokta, the assassin that kills Dovin Baan. Teyo also was a member of the shield mages, but sucked at it real bad. He later travel back to Goakhan with Rat and Kaya to begin the hunt for Liliana and start her redemption arc.

    • @flameofmage1099
      @flameofmage1099 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't he get pretty good during WOTS?

    • @elitearmsgaming5732
      @elitearmsgaming5732 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flameofmage1099 yes, he finds out that the ordered ways of his monetary were holding him back, and he creates powerful irregular shields.

  • @BigBidoof
    @BigBidoof ปีที่แล้ว

    45:00 There is also the black aura "Fallen Ideal", giving a creature flying and sac a creature to give +2/+1. It depicts the fallen angels horn crown thingy.

  • @johnbibb2471
    @johnbibb2471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As for how you got the Pocket Players Guide, it was available in bookstores

  • @Dragiceoriginal
    @Dragiceoriginal ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Kathleen’s post migraine chic is a mood

    • @aringrey
      @aringrey ปีที่แล้ว

      agreed

    • @lavashot449
      @lavashot449 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fashion Icon Kathleen "Migraine" De Vere

  • @emmanewton7342
    @emmanewton7342 ปีที่แล้ว

    fun fact about shandalar; it's moving through the multiverse. that's how magic from ravnica can seep into shandalar, and also how slivers got there.

  • @tomireland3644
    @tomireland3644 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this chill lore dive 😊

  • @Drecon84
    @Drecon84 ปีที่แล้ว

    When MaRo was asked about the Podracing he offered the idea of both players building a Birthing Pod deck and both racing to see who can go off first :P

  • @Eramiserasmus
    @Eramiserasmus ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved all these deep cuts and happy to say I know some of them.

  • @kamikazehansu
    @kamikazehansu ปีที่แล้ว

    Currently recovering from another concussion, so yeah, you could say I've got a brain outch. Wearing sunglasses indoor is just RAD.

  • @philskrzyn
    @philskrzyn ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda crazy how deep the lore on marvel snap goes, Patriot is not just got a long backstory but there are four of them.
    They must have been working on it for months

  • @afonsogouveia7930
    @afonsogouveia7930 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Azgol is the Dark Souls plane!

    • @JuniperHatesTwitterlikeHandles
      @JuniperHatesTwitterlikeHandles ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a feeling it may be the plane they intend to reprint any Mordor cards they need to do vanilla reprints of into.

  • @faerievandal
    @faerievandal ปีที่แล้ว

    stopping by to say that I noticed the reference to Cogwork Archivist and was very hype for it, so glad it made the cut

  • @AngelusNielson
    @AngelusNielson ปีที่แล้ว +5

    that moment when you realize you're 20 years older than Wheeler....

  • @jedrzejkraszewski816
    @jedrzejkraszewski816 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phyrexian Archivist also calls back (unintentionally?) to Phyrexian Librarian from Unhinged - funny how making random things Phyrexian was once considered a joke.

  • @luciajonas7483
    @luciajonas7483 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great episode on Lore and yet I spend most of it staring at the Mouse trap box every time Wheeler swapped leg. The box is so well placed that it just peaks out as 'use Trap' and then when you can see more of the box 'use Trap Game'. I have been instructed and now must use trap cards and find ones that can get into my EDH decks.

  • @DMwithoutPCs
    @DMwithoutPCs ปีที่แล้ว

    Always love these deep dives!!!

  • @KingOfGames2491
    @KingOfGames2491 ปีที่แล้ว

    +2/+1 is Unholy Strenth symbolizing the angel’s fall. That also might reference Desolation Angel.

  • @DHAnsgar
    @DHAnsgar ปีที่แล้ว

    Ancient Imperiosaur also gets 2 counters per creature that Convoke it, so that's another reference to the Petroglyphs.

  • @DamienE11
    @DamienE11 ปีที่แล้ว

    My brain is always ouch but watching you guys makes it much more bearable

  • @hamishian0
    @hamishian0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wheeler and Kathleen are amazing people. Please buy brain hurty hats for them.

  • @thomaswren8508
    @thomaswren8508 ปีที่แล้ว

    The boros avacyn flips from 4/4 to a 6/5 also with the fallen angel theme

  • @thefrizmeister3666
    @thefrizmeister3666 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kinda love mirrored depths. I kinda love all the "bad" cards in magic. They add variance and it makes for an interesting event (granted a not so good event ) but it does make the table have to team up to escape the plane and in its own way that is fun

  • @metalman895
    @metalman895 ปีที่แล้ว

    52:23 now I gotta go listen to Mechanical on the neon dynasty soundtrack

  • @STS-qi1qy
    @STS-qi1qy หลายเดือนก่อน

    'Magic needs more podracing' - and, in 2025, the finger of the monkey's paw curls

  • @Gekyouryuu
    @Gekyouryuu ปีที่แล้ว

    I read The Purifying Flame, but it WAS years ago, so take this with a grain of salt, but iirc the titular flame isn't actually on Regatha? If I'm remembering right, Chandra is on Regatha, studying at Keral Keep, learning under Mother Luti, revealed to be Jaya Ballard MANY years later, when Jace shows up to steal a scroll that leads to Zendikar. Chandra chases after him and accidentally ends up on the wrong plane where she's stuck and can't leave for whatever reason, but meets Gideon. They go back and forth on how positively they feel about each other as it turns out he works for the order and is trying to take her in. They're friends by the end of it. Also, iirc, The Order of Heliud was a multi-plane thing, but most planes didn't know about each other because it was like one planeswalker who worshiped Heliod going around and starting new branches everywhere he went, kinda like Azor did when he founded the Azorius on Ravnica, then went off to other places, ultimately Ixalan. The order's name is explained as a misspelling on that plane just passing down over time.

  • @EdBurke37
    @EdBurke37 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really surprised we didn't get a Wizard Chat/Belanon Loreweaver joke

  • @Veelofar
    @Veelofar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the four legged thing in Invasion of Belanon is supposed to be a Phyrexian

  • @patbaer
    @patbaer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She went to Woodstock! (wait... this isn't lore about my mom?)

  • @Fuzhelmet
    @Fuzhelmet ปีที่แล้ว

    All fallen angels get unholy strength.

  • @OmegablueWolf
    @OmegablueWolf ปีที่แล้ว

    Did Doctor Dinosaur design Karsus? MTG Lore is just so much fun, its too bad its so hard to find as far as i am aware....spread out in books and card quotes.

  • @Jaebird88
    @Jaebird88 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can imagine Xerex being like that other dimension from the Doctor Strange movies, where everything is all kaleidoscopic.

  • @janmelantu7490
    @janmelantu7490 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Big fan of listening to this podcast when I have the brain hurties.

  • @TheOnlyOrk
    @TheOnlyOrk ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the thing in compleated huntmaster is one of the converter beasts

  • @RLKC8
    @RLKC8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ghobakan chaos roll effect makes so much sense

  • @Doofindork
    @Doofindork ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Poor Kathleen. Getting over migraines is just the worst, but at least she seems super comfy. ♥

  • @sienka511
    @sienka511 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the vorthos TTC. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on aftermath

  • @spikysmoothness
    @spikysmoothness ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the dreadship was one of the ships from Kaldheim, forgetting that Ixalan also had ships

  • @brunoalbuquerque4983
    @brunoalbuquerque4983 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Ral invented a machine that can turn oil into explosions."
    Engine. The thing you're talking about is an engine. 😛

  • @RedHerring86
    @RedHerring86 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad to be living in the year of our Wheeler, twentytwentytwentythree.

  • @andrewamann2821
    @andrewamann2821 ปีที่แล้ว

    You cannot buy Kathleen's sunglasses from Card Kingdom, but you can buy Urza's, which are far more stylish.

  • @lavashot449
    @lavashot449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fashion Icon Kathleen "Migraine" De Vere

  • @NStripleseven
    @NStripleseven ปีที่แล้ว

    So what does it actually mean for Segovia for everything to be 100x smaller? Everything would still be the same size relative to other Segovian things, so what’s the difference?

  • @person3176
    @person3176 ปีที่แล้ว

    a muraganda set would be really interesting, but i wonder how it'd work

  • @colinpatton1541
    @colinpatton1541 ปีที่แล้ว

    this set has a lot of flavor text, but my favorite is dance with calamity

  • @lucasenraraujo
    @lucasenraraujo ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it would be really cool if Kasmina had a connection to Xerex (maybe she's from Xerex?) given how she'll probably be the next big bad (or at least an anti-hero). And given how Iona got erased from Zendikar simply for having one of the most unfun cards (despite having the glorious flavor text for Angelheart Vial), I hope we get to see more of Xerex and its six-winged angels.

  • @jioplip
    @jioplip ปีที่แล้ว

    MOM is suvh a cool set. Gosh what an undertking it must have been behind the scenes trying to balance the whole Magic Multiverse in one set

  • @agimaxhaseiru2109
    @agimaxhaseiru2109 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...isn't there a sombrero in the prop room

  • @madcowmoo666
    @madcowmoo666 ปีที่แล้ว

    there is probably parts of ravnica that don't have good hotdogs.

  • @jgmweston
    @jgmweston ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the lore episodes

  • @proffapoluga2573
    @proffapoluga2573 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cross promo with the current Yugioh Duel Links event where you fight Number 9: Dyson Sphere? There doesnt exist canons betyond the ones in card games surely, especially irl. 28:40

  • @FIREMANROX2000
    @FIREMANROX2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    engaging with engagement gods to say i also have a brain ouch

  • @brittanydavis2043
    @brittanydavis2043 ปีที่แล้ว

    More lore!

  • @paytonjarrett9595
    @paytonjarrett9595 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure Ravnica is fine it's not like the guildpact was killed

  • @Hazel.s-zw5ep
    @Hazel.s-zw5ep ปีที่แล้ว

    Sensory sensitivity gang

  • @DEG99Y
    @DEG99Y ปีที่แล้ว

    "Biblically Accurate Plane" Ah so thats where the bible quotes on esrly magic cards came from.

  • @moxavenger
    @moxavenger ปีที่แล้ว

    You look so cozy.

  • @gamerbear84
    @gamerbear84 ปีที่แล้ว

    An invention that turns oil into explosions? So... fire? :P

  • @JonathanHecht
    @JonathanHecht ปีที่แล้ว

    im one of those who thirsts for xerex

  • @Halinn
    @Halinn ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't believe you didn't give an epilepsy warning before the strobe-knight

  • @whitewampa2910
    @whitewampa2910 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just a reminder WotC hires armed personnel to "handle" youtubers they don't like

  • @TheJamesawesome
    @TheJamesawesome ปีที่แล้ว

    Cardkingdom workers are currently looking for a union so make sure if you use cardkingdom be friendly and let them know that you suppourt unionised workers!