The Most Annoying Strategy #5 Wall In Your Opponent!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I review one of the most annoying strategies I have seen in this beautiful game of AoE2. I said in the video that this is the fourth episode of the entire series, it is actually the fifth!
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When you're such a nice person that you build walls for your opponent's base......and add a Castle on top just for extra protection.
Julius Caesar literally did this. He was the first cheeser in history.
XD 👍
What was he gonna do? A huge army was marching, impossible to fend off. LETS BUILD A WALL!!
Soviet style protection
@@drewmandan The prince bishop did it to Munster during the 16th century Anabaptist rebellion. Great story, ended in horrific torture and execution.
The developers must be French, it looks like they treat forests as impenetrable.
This comment needs more likes.
Definitely
burns forest*
sooooooo.... your strategy was... flawed?
Smart and funny xD
what about the gauls though
the gates are at the enemy
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE GATES ARE THE ENEMY!
rofl
Tbh, the counter to this is probably some sort of proxy build play (for those who watch the competitive sc2 scene. Sending it out early, trick them, show up with a roflstomp army behind the wall when you realize they hit the point where they spent too much resources securing it. Making sure not to reveal your hand too early, and appear you are playing behind as if you are just a bit slow to gather things in the back. Get the reaction of "omfg, I walled you out, how are you in my base destroying my shit?"
The trick is definitely more towards knowing the person you are playing against, and planning it out on your RND map properly (at least in SC2, it was more about knowing each map and where to proxy)
@@phillycheesetake Well then you have LOST!!
@@Adeon55 It's over, I have the high ground!
The Roman Conquest of Alesia. 52 B.C. (colourised)
Too soon, panda. Too soon...
I'm going to watch the vid later, but I immediately thought of the Roman 'sacking' technique.
To quote Asterix & The Chieftain's Shield. "We don't talk about Alesia so there!!"
he ceasared him well
Samuel Castro
>thinks old times are monochrome
Remember lads, the war started because two sheep went missing. They must have been more beautiful than Helen of Troy.
Maybe they had golden fleece?
Scotts at it again
I hope yellow s mother gets cancer
Maybe a ascendant of john wick?
Area quarantined. Beginning decontamination.
Reading this during the Chinese Corona is pretty entertaining.
The Elvensong thefuck who did u know
A prophet
The Elvensong who did you work for?
Timothy Gollan, if only TH-cam notifications worked properly to let know The ElvenSong has to reply here.
I played so many hundreds of hours of this game 10-15 years ago. I had no idea that this game was still being played, and stunned to see that it has a competitive crowd. Awesome!
Bro I am right with you! So much nostalgia mixed with absolute surprise that this game is still getting the attention it always deserved.
Yea, I actually started playing recently(I played age of mothology quite a bit years ago, but not that much AoE 2), doing the campaigns and some skirmish modes, might go play some multiplayer games eventually too and I can totally appreciate how this game survived the test of time and with a bunch of fun & interesting strats to do. I've been playing LoL for the past years now, and that game is soooooooooo boring, all about 100-0ing some1 with a champ with a bunch of dashes. I envy AoE 2 players lul.
not only is it still being played, but the most recent official expansion for it was released in 2016.
they got remastered too
Same! 10 years ago for me
Now there's gonna be 2 weeks of tryhards trying to wall you in every single game. GG T90.
lol I know right
From all my years of playing non-professionally, I thought this was a fairly common tactic.
@@pwntwtf it is a fairly common tactic. Just not in this high tiers of play. It's so random. One villager sent to harvest outside the main town and it would have been over for yellow. The pro level players will always do things a little differently. I always farm as much stone as I can get as early as I can get it because of castles. But clearly, that's not the case with pro players. :)
I only gonna buy game for doing this and I only played this game when I was 7 years old :D
You can get it for free on the pirate bay. lol
It's called "circumvallation". It was a tactic utilized by Gaius Iulius Cæsar during his siege of the Gallic oppidum of Alesia. His legionaries over the course of a few days, had built two walls surrounding the town, the inner track being 23 miles and the outer track being 26. With this tactic, he was able to defeat the beleaguered Gauls from the city and an army sent to break the siege which in total was six times the size of his own army. It's one of Cæsar's most famous battles.
That's pretty kool that it has actually ben used at some point in history.
It would be amazing to see someone manage a circumvallation in a team game: pull off walling someone off and then wall that wall off from an ally trying to break them out with another defensive line.
he could build a wall cause he was already besieging the city and the surrounding people fled into the city walls, which was normal till 17th century. btw. it was less a wall than a fortification, which the romans often times did when besieging enemys, setting up a camp for their troops.
it was only bigger then previous ones. just to make clear. the army was not 6 tims bigger you talk about the numbers the romans used or julius himself. it was well known even by later roman historians that in the antique, in battles, romans, greeks and so on on purpose made the numbrs bigger, then thy actually were to make it look like the victory was even greater and for political gains.
the same was for reducing the numbrs of casualties then the actually were. till vietnam war, this number fakeing ,was still used to justify wars too.
the number of roman troops was probably correct with 70k included the supporting troops. the gauls had probably a 40-60k strong army otside and around 15k-25k man inside alesia but whom a goood numbeer were demoralized and started to starve, thats why vercingetorix sent children, sick, old and women outside but julius did not let them pass and insted let them die slowly.
the army could not be that big, cause of previous battles the gauls fought, the overall population in the area surrounding it, alesia as a city would never had more enough space for so many, the tactics the romans used could only have beena chieved with equal numbrs otherwise they would have been completely obliterated. they did in fact break through the lines multiple times. people rly forget that especially the celts were not savages but highly skilled warriors, traders, merchants and so on. they adapted roman culture and other things befor their downfall same goes for romans adapting certain techniques in their early stages as a citystate. gauls did btw. no cease to exist they just integrated pretty ell into roman society and were know in the roman army for thei loyalty and greater gaul provinces were one of the most stable ones in the empire.
maybe one explanation for this misconception is because often people think, gauls/celts were the same then germans. after reading literature i even would say. celts were closer culturally to romans then they were to germans. another misconception. gauls were the same then celts. gauls were normally refered to celts in todays france. other areas of celts had been captured and integrated into the roman empire befor. also celts were not a humonigous society. there were certain things of rituals, art, religion the same but other things different in all of europe. since celts stretched from the iberian peninsula, to britain, central europe, central turkey, balkan, alps and eastern europe.
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walling was pretty common for Romans back then. In his first encounter against Pompeij in Greece he lost the wall game. Both bukd like 30km of walls to try and wall the other off
i always wanted to see this but now
this is a war crime
r u mad
Donald trump's wet dream
Edgy, bro. Isn't it funny how in the sandbox universe of videogames, we all immediately recognize how effective walls are at keeping unwanted people out of an area, even to the point of cracking jokes about it?
Well obviously walls are effective in a video game where no one can climb.
Walls are effective in video games where you can climb as well...
@@crimsonsr7113 right lol ... LIBERAL LOGIC: "People can climb, therefore walls are pointless" Yeah lol tell that to the Chinese or anyone who ever constructed a wall for that matter
@@crimsonsr7113 but then again I suppose if they were at all skilled at logical reasoning and critical thinking they wouldn't be brainwashed liberals in the first place.
Imagine if Yellow also used the market to sell as much of their stone food and wood just so blue couldn't get much gold from the market.
Such pure evil damnnn
"He borrowed the boar", that cracked me up:)
"I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!"
Watchmen reference.
The war that started with stealing sheep.
I love doing this to the A.I. because it breaks them. If you close them in enough you can just place walls around the parameter and watch them continually through villagers into death trying to get to resources because it doesn't register how much you've corner them. LOL
Yep. I had a single castle up on their main gold and they suicided 30 vills into it trying to build something behind it. Wtf AI 😂
@GloriousTapeworm want a cheesiest strat max diff? stack boats on their shores and just focus on villagees, they'll keep generating more till they run outta food
The not original AI counter you
A.I. in Age of Empires II is totally stupid, Age of Empires Online has an insanely great A.I., you should try it!!
lol
he says episode four, but the title says otherwise
Women and men are able to be picked off by plumed archers.
This is progression.
"Omg! Omg, the villagers just walked in!"
Haha you won't hear that every aoe2 replay.
moral of the story: when you lame, karma strikes back. Don't lame boys ... or gals (gals can also lame in 2018)
I was so happy that Spring have paid for his laming
I actually really enjoy when people lame, adds some spice to an otherwise boring few minutes to the start of a game. But that said, I enjoy watching a lame backfire like this even more.
Watch the final episode of the Hidden Cup to see that moral taken to the extreme :P
Lame is when you deny a boar or annoy them early game I assume. Don't play AoE2 but i'm taking a guess based on the vid.
Basically stealing sheep and boars
Easiest way to break free from being walled in like that? Have your villages start chopping the thinnest section of trees. Once you fell the tree, you can place a build site down which will remove the felled tree, just remove the build site before it has hitpoints and you lose nothing. Do this repeatedly and you'll break out of the trees.
My favorite map type is Black Forest, my mother taught me to use the trees to my advantage, cutting pathways through the forests using Onager. It's very easy to dominate the map when you your effectively editing the battlefield to your advantage. Set up shop next to a small lake to fish farm, and free up the small amount of space for buildings by not needing to farm on land.
your mum most be an op player
@@gemo3644 Me and my mother have been competing with each other with various strategy games since she first started teaching me chess when I was 3yo. We've played other types of games together though, our favorites being GW2 and MtG. I only ever beat her at AoE2 once.
@@erianle123547 what a nice, inteligent mother, congratulations. I guess she really wanted to develop your critical thinking and logic in a way both can enjoy.
There were towers, though.
Is noone going to point out this is probably the best way to leverage the half-priced mayan walls? lol
this is reverse attack on titan
"the current meta"... Ironic hearing that in 2018 for a game made in 1999.
The game is receiving regular patches AFAIK, last one on Sep 6, 2018.
Chess has a meta.
Chess is much older.
What about Go?
Even older.
You'll get used to it. What I mean is, games don't just vanish into a blackhole a year after it's created. Some can last a long time.
@@BuFFoTheArtClown Great games do at any rate, or more like legendary ones. As a diamond level of League of Legends player, I envy this greatly, my game's so popular yet so boring, you never see sh1t like this, just play OP champ and dash dash dash 100-0 some1, win. Heck, I've been looking to start playing AoE2 or Mythology again, at least watching these replays and playing the campaigns is a blast for now.
Thank you! @@MgMast3r
the depth is so amazing aoe2 dont need graphics
Trump approve this Strategy
So that's how the Mayans repelled the Berber Expeditionary Jihad of 1483.
Gaza simulator
Dude not cool 😀😀😀
AWESOME COMMENT! XD XD XD
Shieeet
spring was laming, thats worst
bought the land
How beautiful and oddly satisfying was this? It was so annoying that it was beautiful.
lul noob just make flying units
aoe2 doesnt have flying utnis
r/woosh
Right. Just make some orcas or firehawks.
Just a few mutas would have done the trick.
Frost wyrms
The only "luck" I see with this strategy is that Spring didn't have any resources behind his TC. If he had even a 4 tile gold in the back of his base, the outcome might've been different…
Spring was "completely trapped" because he had no quick way to go to castle age before Timothy and get some siege and rams to batter these walls down… because there was no gold to collect. You add the surprise of the strategy, time to take it into consideration, reorganize his whole economy and build… no wonder he lost.
He should have put a tower on his side of the wall at the main gold that would have stopped timo from adding layers so that he could break free.
Yellow was lucky that blue never sent a single villager to harvest outside of his own town or it would have ended right then and there. But then, it is a pretty small map they're playing on.
Nah, thinking the trick would have been to know who he was, and had builders make a surprise for him in the back, while not revealing too much as in a lack of units and 'omfg, you walled me in'... When spent too much - destroy the fuckers main. It has been used successfully on other RTS games in containment. The trick is to not be properly scouted before you lay your trap, mind games.
It is a common tactic as an early sort of rush in a game like SC2; but it kind of works like what tarrker is talking about. You can't wall properly everywhere, and if they come from behind you and you didn't think of it - suddenly you wasted a lot of resources that will not help you save the game for yourself.
"All your base are belong to us"
9:30 "Plan A was lame."
Great puns, T90, great puns.
"THE WALL WASN'T TO KEEP OUT THE THEM, IT WAS TO KEEP IN THE YOU!"
Can't believe people don't scout with anything. Few seconds of scouting periodically and this never happens to you.
Knowledge is power.
T90 I think everyone does the alphabets in their mind once in a while, at least I know I do. I just can't remember the order out of my memory just randomly :'D
why bother .. s or t .. doesnt everyone know that t follows s ... when you have to do the alphabet song it is a sign that you dont actually know what letter is at what place .... heck l and m are the middle of the alphabet ... after that it's east
@@0623kaboom The reason we make songs and jingles and cronyms, is to remember. It's not a sign that "we dont know what letter is where" It's just confirming instead of stating. Theres nothing wrong with saying lmnop, or qrst, or tuvw. Kind of like multiplication on 9s, I know them, but i still use my hands to double check my answer. Some people just like to check themselves.
My check for nines is that the two digits of the answer add up to nine. What's this finger verification wizardry?
Damn Timotheus gave him a wedgie and pulled his underpants over his head.
12:40: "a b c d e f- OH MY GOD THE VILLAGERS HOPPED THROUGH!" *dead*
Legendary match
Amazing game thanks for casting. Great revenge for laming though :))
there was a game in a tournament when viper got entirely walled in. He had his resources 'thou
agree
This is basic siegecraft, you _should_ see it more often, at least in Arena matches and against opponents who elect to play defensively. Not the right strategy for this map, but Spring -was trolling with his scout- had reassigned his scouting element to offensive duties, and Timotheus has brilliantly exploited his? superior real-time military intelligence to pull it off. I assume that Timotheus knows his opponent well and that this was probably a premeditated strategy
There youtube! I watched a random video about a (admittedly good) game i haven't played in years! Now stop showing it to me!
i didn't realize competitive AOE was a thing. I thought that AOE was pretty much dead.
You were very confused, there are more people now than 10 years ago.
its crazy, they relleased everal expansion packs quite recently.
The dude that posted this video got a Twitch account as well. I've seen it live and they go so in depth, dope shit all around and just a great community altogether. Just people loving strategy games and taking it to the next level. I highly recommend sitting down and watch this one from start to finish: th-cam.com/video/CTRwNlRaw9Y/w-d-xo.html Last time I played AoE2 was probably 10+ years ago and I've played it a handful of times, still have fun as they explain enough to understand as an outsider.
Kinda reminds me of other classic RTS games, like Starcraft and Warcraft 3. Despite their age, there's a competitive scene for them still. I didn't realize there was still a WC3 scene until I got on Twitch and saw Grubby (that wasn't the discovery moment), and then learned through his chat that there are in fact still some pros circulating, and tourneys held. You probably couldn't really live on the winnings anymore, but tourneys are still held all the same. The Starcraft competitive scene apparently never died, it just lost some popularity to other big games, which makes sense. It was still televised until something like 2012, but plenty of tourneys still circulate around S. Korea, what with the guys of Tastosis apparently living there specifically to cast them along with some SC2, and Starcraft still pulls well over 15k+ players on the daily.
@@leonardomiotti3181 why tho? what does this game has to draw in crowd of players after 20 years.
Fatslob would be proud
I WILL BUILD A WALL
And make the Berbers (blue player) pay for it!
I thought only I had to play the alphabet song in my head
Love you! I've been watching almost all the big games from the past 2-3 years, but have never been on Twitch, mainly beacuse of the time...anyway, keep up the good work.
Btw, I have never played AoE online, but I still watch you daily.
Much love my friend
I love watching your vids. The commentary is fire. Keep up the good work fam!
Legit posted an Age of Empires 2 strategy in 2018
The arena we didn't expect.
Mad lad is using Caesar's strategy from Alessia.
This is a sc2 strategy :) starving your opponent is huge
WC3 tower rush
Surely this contravenes the Geneva Convention?
Escape Gaming Elimination Draft Round 1 Game 1 Viper vs Tatoh. Tatoh walls Viper in! Not quite this level but *VERY VERY* close!
YES. Was about to comment this
Got link for that game?
انطيتك لايج يابويه في جبير اكبر من احم
😂😂😂 actually got first cause, Straya mate!
A, b, c, d, e, f-OH MY GOD THE VILLAGERS HOPPED THROUGH, OMG.
Your commentary during the match was very entertaining it was like listening to a sport's announcer.
such an amazing game! what are all those dislikes lol, people just feel spring's pain I guess :)
I love these. I subscribed specifically to see future troll games like this. Even if they aren't "better" or "more" annoying; you could still call them "very annoying" or something like that. These videos are pure gold.
That last castle was insult to injury.
I was playing this game when I was 17 years old back in '99. Great game, and probably the only strategy game I enjoyed playing, but my internet was super slow back in those days.
Is "scanning" still possible in 2022?
I've felt that move before, it's a rough move. However, my economy was entirely unaffected, as I was Built around selling Food from the start, removing my access to Gold slowed me down for only 2 minutes, at which point I immediately spammed an extra 20 Farms to compensate, within 15 minutes I was breaching the Walls at record speed, and had even managed to get behind the Walls because I'd Micro Managed through the Trees using a swarm of Villagers.
By the time their Troops had maneuvered to cut my advance off, it was too late, I was raiding the defensive structure on the other side of the enclosure, a perfect Feint Attack, backed up by Catapults and Archers.
Sadly, they'd been preparing a similar strategy, so I ended up dying about 20 min later when they showed up with their own Armada. Their war of attrition had hit me unexpectedly in my Wood reserves, causing me to stall at the worst possible moment, and they just rolled right through me because of it.
My kill ratio broke 130 that match though, they thanked me for being one of the best fights they'd had all week lol
wait people still play this game and competitively? Love AOE wish I knew sooner.
Trump could learn a thing or two from this guy
why didn't he just cut the trees once or twice then put a wall or house on them and then cancelled the build?
Because they are "high level players".
Timotheus got lucky with Springs gold being so far away from his TC, but he did well to take advantage of that fact. Excellent execution!
well it was pretty lucky map wise to have that perfect wallable base for spring, with the only problem that there is no gold in it.
It is kinda sad seeing fortnite players have 10, 20, 30k + viewers and a good aoe player can connect his voobly to twitch and still only get 5 messages from his chat over the course of a game :(
Fortnite is a billion times more popular than AoE
@@HeloisGevit are you an idiot or why do you state the obvious? Obviously I was saying that exactly this is sad, as AoE is a great game and this comic garbage rules the world.
You got an attitude problem and anger issues bud, that's no way to speak to people. People like different things, and that's OK, deal with it.
Helois Gevit it’s the internet, if you say stupid things you’re gonna get burned
@@jeannebouwman1970 thats if he said anything stupid tho which he did not he stated the truth regardless of how much i hate fortnite hes not wrong.
i never thought aoe would be fun to watch but the way you explain everything and your commentary just really makes it interesting i love this
the skill and reaction to situation from both players are incredibly magnificent, kudos for both of them!
6:46 It's not a bug, it's a feature!
Timotheus is Julius Caesar
Good lord, you really are everywhere. I've seen this ninja ppst comments on other random videos.
First game i ever watched, got me into AOE2 watching, though i don't play. great job!
Satflob
Skinny Neatfreak
That's some impressive AoE!
You know what my favorite fruit is?
The Plum-ed archer!
Badum-tss!
That's not how puns work, bro.
I still chuckled. There's nothing better than a lovingly crafted lame joke. :D
@@crimsonsr7113 Indeed, atleast somebody's smart enough to understand ;D
You're implying I'm not smart enough? I understand, but that's not how puns work. Puns are based on how words _sound_ , not how they're spelled. "Plumed" is pronounced with a long "u" so "plum" is never heard during the pronunciation of "plumed." Before you accuse someone of not being "smart enough," have some modesty and check your facts beforehand.
@@timjung640 I don't wanna be rude or anything, but I think you're going too much into detail. The lame joke "plum-ed archer" is already quite old and it has always been meant as a lame joke, although since jokes stop being jokes when you overuse them, people kinda forgot it ever existed some time ago. So, I wanted to bring back the good ol' memories that the people who have been around for long enough still remember. This also sorta uncovers the fact you probably thought I made that one up (which I certainly haven't) and also that you can't be familiar with the AoE community for too long, else you'd have known. I hope I satisfy you with this explanation as I never meant to create a fuss over such a stupid thing. Have a nice day sir!
6:47 they removed the bug haha
This was NOT an annoying strategy. It was a beautifully crafted advanced strategy that involved risk and skill. Just because someone doesn't play as you want them to (no walls, laming, or towers) doesn't make it "annoying". I'm guessing you feel this way because you are so weak against those strats!
its like in starcraft... deviate slightly from the standard macro play and ppl say u cheese.
Annoying for the opponent, I don't think he meant it in a bad way.
Annoying for people used to the meta; it's brilliant, and we all admit that. But what do you do? You have to be creative, and that's the crazy thing.
meta makes you predictable. Caught off guard is always a winning strategy!
Well, annoying, imo, means good.
If your opponent is not annoyed, you're not playing the game right.
The goal is to win, isn't it?
Is this the beginning of WALL?
PvAI... sometimes, that's the only way you can win, if you suck as bad as me.
I'm guessing it got thru on high level, cause NO ONE does that. Nice.
I played this game on the MSN gaming zone. First multi player game some one built a castle next to my Tc.. I did not know what I was doing! Just downloaded it again on steam.. Now need to get some time to play to learn it proper! You've made it sound so good again
I think its kind of fun to build up a grand army, absurdly propped up, bring down the walls and forts and hit the focal point with elite troops and flood the area with semi-elite troops or trash units.
@5:49 this is getting out of hand! Now there are two of them!
T90, I love the content, been watching these whilst kicking back and raking it in with roulette, a cup of tea and a cigarette. No doubt having a lot of fun watching someone not have fun lol
Awesome game and great cast!
Wall of CASTLES
Why do player dont Light cav spam down the trebs while skirms hold plums.
Trash build
getting towered/walled is always a sign of underestimation. You don't expect that on a high level, but it still happens, especially when you have a certain expectance: 'He won't do that'. Yes, he will...
I've never seen or played this game but this looks hilarious as hell.
clips.twitch.tv/ClearLazyRamenLitty
Here's the clip from spring stream
WALL
This was a great commentary and a good game. Subbed!
i just noticed that the background crest/coat of arms in the game menu is the one used by the emirate of granada before it was taken by the reconquista
If I remember correctly, catapults can shoot to the forest and destroy it right? Is it too late to do that?
That is probably as close as it gets for optimal area control walling. I have often thought players don't give themselves enough space inside their own walls. This was dang near perfect! Well done. =)
This happend to me last time I played AOE 1 Definitive Edition online. I FOUND THIS VIDEO TOOO LATE!
124 vils against 68 but 124 vils are basically in a Forest Nothing eco, lol.
Great video T90! Amazing play from Timotheus, that is one of the most ingenious strats I've ever seen!