Everyone starting out in their journey of paint Correction needs to see this video, everything you say is 100% correct, I experienced the pad getting extremely hot and creating sink holes some have gone as far as destroying the pad, the pads with the hole in the middle are the best and only kind I use, once again thank you for sharing your knowledge
Scott, this video you have made has truly helped me to understand some really important details of properly getting the most from a DA polisher. I am new to this part of detailing & will be purchasing a machine of my own. I'm 68 Yrs. young & getting to tired doing it all by hand. Your my go too guy for all this detailing stuff. I respect your expertise. Bless Ya
Hey Scott got a little worried wasn't sure if you were still coming back figured you were spending time with your daughter great video keep up the great work and enjoy the holidays with your family and a very merry Christmas lots of love don't stop your mission to help others
Thank you scott! I'm new to paint correction. I got alot of scratches on my car, and you show me the best pads. I'm going to try americana's as you have suggested. I appreciate your videos!
Thanks Scott! I am going to try it out! In my opinion it is worth trying, because I have several different 21mm polishers and I like to test! Testing is always worth it when looking for the best results and the best is what I stand behind in my Pro Biz!
I’m a little late watching this but man your information has been so helpful I really appreciate your knowledge and recommendations for products, I have had great experiences with detailing thanks to you
What backing plate are you using that has the holes in it that lines up with the holes in the americana pads? I didn’t see backing plates on their website. Would the griots 5” vented backing plate line up with the holes in those pads?
@ Scott with Dallas Paint Correction & Auto Detailing: For an amateur detailer using the 6 in. 5.7 Amp Heavy Duty Dual Action Variable Speed Polisher from Harbor Freight, what pads would you recommend?
Robby C whatever you do, do NOT use the HF pads with the 6" installed backplate, the plate extends further than the pad backing and you will chew up pads like crazy. Their are "fixes," but nothing I'd feel comfortable working with. I'd also recommend you strongly consider buying a 5" backplate, like the $10 Astra on Amazon, and use 5" pads. Smaller surface area gives the budget DA some extra cutting power and they're much more forgiving on curves, edges, small spaces etc.. The HF is a great machine for the money, but not a powerhouse. So for heavy duty defect removal you will need a microfiber cutting pad. Meguiars is a safe bet, and keeping with the simple theme I'd comfortably recommend a set of their compound, polish, seal/wax foam pads as well, along with their 105 and 205 compound and polish. That system is capable of serious defect removal and a fine finish. It's predictable and reliable, widely available, affordable, and has years of proven results. It is still my go to, and I've used it with the HF machine so I know what it is capable of.
Where you been? Merry Christmas to you and your family, think about you every time I look at my beautiful 5 year old paint job! I've received quite a few compliments on it, your the best.
Would u recommend using the americama orange pad as a start and finishing off with americana black pad. My paint is only minorly swirled. Nothing major.
Hey Scott, I’m getting a DeWalt dwp849x which is not a DA it is a Rotary polisher. Would you do a video on one of these? Or, do you or any of your viewers have any words of wisdom on just a rotary polisher? There a tons of videos on DA polishers. Not a whole lot on rotary. I’m just a driveway Joe looking to do paint correction on my neglected car.
Scott, Good stuff. I just wanted let you know I find your videos very informative and tremendously helpful. In my case the couple that focused on removing road grime with Purple Power Rv and Boat wash then following up with the Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish. The Best to You this coming year and Thanks Again
Glad your back. Great Video!! Thanks for your thoughts on the Americana Global Pad. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on The Last Cut Compound and Jescar Correcting Cream. I actually bought a 5/8 inch hollow punch and started punching out a center hole in ALL of my lake country and meguiars microfiber pads because of issues associated with heat. But the 4 extra cooling chambers on the Americana Global pad makes more sense because the air is actually flowing through the backing plate. I'm amazed more companies aren't doing this. Also, I know it's an expensive initial investment but the new Buff & Shine Uro-fiber pad is not only an exact fit pad but it's also BY FAR the coolest running microfiber pad on the market. I've been testing a single 5" uro-fiber pad on my Boss G15 for the past 5 months and after using it on 20+ vehicles it is showing zero signs of degrading. The fibers, the foam interface, and the velcro might actually be indestructible.lol. It's already paid for itself 10x over. Merry Christmas Scott!
americana global also makes microfiber cutting pads that run very cool..im sure buff and shine microfibers are awesome but i tend to just use a rotary and wool pad for deep defects..i get tired of constantly having to clean the microfiber disks..lol
I know what you mean. I most likely would never use microfiber if I was mobile. Fortunately I have a shop with compressed air and even have a dedicated trash can for blowing out microfiber pads.
Hey Dallas. I have a question. I got all the colors for Americana global. I have the Koch Chemie Polishes and Compounds. Which color pad and Koch Chemie would go together.
Scott just been doing some reseach on wool pads for cutting and they are not pure wool! Most of them are synthetic man made wool, is there a difference between natural wool and synthetic wool when it comes to the buffing outcome?
What pad do you use to polish down to your original color of your vehicle. I used a wool buff pad and it didn't work good it generated more heat when I put pressure to the pad and I had my Ultimate polisher I got to 6 and I saw a little spot that I got my paint polished to where it looks like the original color but it took too long on a small area. I need a pad that cuts down to the point fast. I was using Meguairs Ultimate polish too. I just want to get the right pad to use.
Thinking about just drilling holes in pads with a backplate template as a guide. Scott did you just have a crush on these pads or do you still think they are great? It is between these and the LC HDO pads for me, not sure which.
Are these also a buy for the smaller 8 mm throw, typical Harbor Freight 6" polisher too? Or are you saying just use these on the larger throw polishers?
Scott 4 minutes 34 seconds of your video what kind of backing plate is that, i paused the video too see if i could see the brand of the backing plate, that might work for what i need thanks Marty
How about the best pad for heavy oxidation for a 7 inch polisher. Am looking for one that will remove the heavy oxidation or medium oxidation. I have yellow and orange pads at home but they not branded and I am using a rotary polisher so I can't go to high with the speed. 3 speed is pretty good though.
From day one, the biggest problem is that Rupes developed a system for people only interested in the tool technology (large orbit). If they try the "system", the end user has no clue how to approach it. None. So the end user does what comes natural, and tries to use their system in a manner that's familiar, often with less than remarkable results. The only reason I figured out how to use it, was because of forums, and interfacing with people from the company on FB, and finally practicing on scrap panels. So without that insight, it's a long road to hope. I guess it's a moot point if someone hasn't even experimented with it. I mean, the first thing people do with it is put a washer in it, and then wonder why the pads are shredding, and compound is slinging with their blue combo. From there they quickly move on to more familiar territory. To be clear, this isn't a slight on the end user, but an illustration to where Rupes could have better educated technicians on EXACTLY how they intended the use of the "system" in it's entirety. I'm comfortable now with it to use it in a production environment, but if I can get away with the PC, I'll do it. For the record, I've never had the plate on a Rupes cut in to the pad. There might be a millimeter from the edge of the plate to the outside edge of the pad backing - on the Duetto. I also brought back the Flex 3401. I did too many R.V.'s, and industrial trucks with a rotary/PC last season, where the 3401 would have gotten me home faster.
Great channel, Scott. If I am ONLY using polisher to remove light scratches (desert pinstriping on my Jeep), should I go with smaller pads (say 3") instead of the usualy 5-6"? Or am I risking too much concentrated pressure in my unskilled hands?
I’m trying to understand what you are recommending. I don’t do this for a living. Accordingly I listen to other more experienced people. You recommended the harbor freight polisher but told us to throw away the backing plate, buy a 5” backing plate and 5 1/2 “ force pads. This video says to use the same size pad and backing plate with a thinner pad. As a result I’m confused and need clarification.
oh now i understand your confusion...i was sure i mentioned long throw polishers like the Rupes 21MM throw and how they can heat the surface of the paint and how that could be a problem...i don't watch my videos after i upload them, did i not talk about the long throw polisher like the Rupes 21????...i hope that helps with your confusion but I'm also sure i talked about the issue of long throw polishers as well and how they heat up the surface of the paint and how this pad will help with that issue...let me know Mark if i failed to mention that point within the video:)
Mark Silverman the Harbor freight polisher and the one in this video are two completely different machines. The one in the video is a long throw polisher that builds up more heat, now he’s talking about an issue with the backing plate and pads for the rupes machine which is not an exact fit. He brings up the Americana global pads which ARE an exact fit for the rupes backing plate, even has the same holes in the same location to reduce heat greatly. This has nothing to do with harbor freight machine or using 5.5” pads. Different set up for different application.
Hey guys I'm new to the detailing world here. My question is what sealant would you guys recommend for newbie like me. I'm currently stuck between Griots Garage Boss Sealant, Meguiers Ultimate comound wax/sealant and, Jescar sealant??
i know guys that drill holes into lets say microfiber cutting disks..i would not recommend drilling holes into your backing plate because it will be out of balance...they do make many backing plates with holes in them, even for smaller dual action polishers..i loved the question:)
Hey Scott. Thanks again for the informative video. I assume the orange pad is a “medium cut” pad? So, could it still be used as a 1 step with Correcting cream? Or say with Fast correcting cream or perfecting cream?
yes orange is Medium Cut pad...yes you could use it as a 1 step and that depends on your desired results and the paint you're working on..remember not all paints respond the same:)
the shurhold comes with a 6 inch backing plate and you will need a washer mod if you desire..im a 5 inch backing plate user and when i use the torq 5 inch long throw backing plate you will not need a washer mod.
Hey Scott great content. Always! I had a question I wanted to start a side gig washing truck and trailers I was looking into getting a hotsey pressure washer. I was wondering if you had any tips into buying soap and what pressure I sure use during the wash
Cool vid Scott! Awesome pad info! Well....my NDSU Bison will be in Frisco the week of January 1!!! You'll be seeing a lot of Green & Yellow that week!!!! National-Championship on Saturday Jan 6. Merry Christmas to You & yours Sir! Faron
Scott, I've been using the harbor freight DA for about a year now, I was wondering if there is any benefit to moving to a more expensive machine or a mainstream brand?
that depends on how often you're doing paint correction...if you're a DIY and taking care of 1 or 2 cars in your driveway, i would say there is no reason to upgrade...if you want to upgrade from a harbor freight i would look at the griots 6 inch orbital, only because it has less vibration and a little more balanced but it doesn't have more power than the harbor freight...if you wanted to play with a long throw polisher than i would recommend the shurhold 3500 because it has a lot of power, more power than the rupes or griots boss long throw polishers plus its only about 180 dollars:)
Dallas Paint Correction & Auto Detailing what's the difference between say a normal DA and a long throw DA? Always confused when someone says it has an X throw. I work on my own personal car plus like one car a week for a client.
the harbor freight polisher has a 8mm throw..it not only spins at the pad but it has a 8mm orbit..when we talk about long throw polishers, we are talking about polishers that have a 15-21mm throw..this translates into a polisher that can remove defects off the paint twice as fast during the buffing cycle vs a small polisher that only has a 8mm orbit
Hey Scott, Was looking at the pads by Americana and couldn’t quite figure out what color pads are for what type of cutting. Can you guide me a bit and explain what color does what best. Thanks again and Merri Christmas!
Fern, Yellow is "Heavy Cut" M105, D300, Jescar Correcting Compound, M100, Fast Correcting Cream etc. Orange is "Medium Cut" (typical orange pad) same compounds as yellow. Black is "Polishing" M205, Hyper Polish, Jescar Polishing, Perfecting Cream, etc. Red is "Ultra/Fine Polishing" Can either use as a jeweling pad, or use it to apply waxes/sealants to the surface.
Since that pad is an "exact fit" and the side wall is straight up and down, I feel you'd run the risk of the backing plate rubbing on part of the car, say the under side of a side mirror or anywhere that something sticks out from the vehicle body. As such, I think I prefer using 5.5" pads on a 5" backing plate.
i have never had that issue..but i suppose some with less experience could get close to areas like you mentioned and damage paint..even with a 5.5 pad, i stay clear of those areas or tape them off...this pad provides so many benefits over other pads so its a no brainer for me
Is the red backing plate the Torq22D ? Since I bought one on your recommendation for the Shurhold, just wondered if the four holes line up with that plate or is it an Americana Global plate ? Also since I now have 10 LC orange FORCE pads are you saying that these thicker pads would get too hot to use with a 21mm throw ? Looks like Santa is going to have to go to the Americana Global website and put in a new pad order. Any pad selection advice to tackle most jobs ? I'm not going to order till I'm sure, based on your advice..............Merry Christmas ! Jeff
just about any pad will get the paint hot when using with a long throw polisher that has a 21mm throw...the americana pad seems to lower the heat on the surface of the paint plus with its design the pad will last longer and stay cooler vs other pads...the torq22d backing plate does have holes that you can line up with the pad but also worth noting is even if you don't line up the holes correctly most long throw backing plates are well vented to begin with so the holes within the americana pads will still work for you as well
OK, thanks. I've been using my heat indicator gun with different pads/techniques and I'll be curious to do a comparison once my pads arrive. I'm going to get just one of the yellow heavy cut pads just to test and 6 orange. I love the LC grey Force pads for "spot" correction and have found the orange LC Force pads allow me cut and finish in one step with GGFCC with a 8mm, for moderate defect removal.
Cool, I have not tried any of the Jescar products, I'll give it a try. I've been loving the GGFCC and Perfecting Cream so much I thought I have found the perfect combination, but always like trying out new products. Hope you had a a great XMass ...Much Love, Jeff
I just picked up the Shurhold long throw and torq 22d 5 and 6 inch backing plates, as well as some Americana Global orange and black pads in each size. I found while giving this machine its first test drive yesterday, that the Shurhold backing plate did the job just fine and heat build up was virtually nonexistent, but it's nice to have that smaller 5" torq plate that I can throw on there if the situation calls for it. The Shurhold is smooth as butter in my opinion. A little loud for the user, but I just threw in my foam tipped headphones and listened to a podcast while I worked and that was enough to prevent ringing. The only odd thing I noticed was that the black Americana Global polishing pad would experience some sinkage where you had applied the drops of polish after a handful of passes. Ended up switching to the orange pad as I had planned to do anyway (was just seeing what the black could do before truly correcting) and found it to be less forgiving over rough terrain leading to some pad stall occasionally that I had to work around (no KB washer mod at the moment), but gave far more feedback as to what was going on at the paint level than most other brands' mid range cutting pads and no sinkage from the polish. The orange pad is very sturdy/stiff, which I like, but it still finishes down really nicely for a respectable one-step with the right polish and technique (I was using sonax perfect finish on softer Japanese paint). I'm a fan. Gotta say thanks to Scott. The Shurhold 3500 pro and Americana orange pads are a great combo.
Everyone starting out in their journey of paint Correction needs to see this video, everything you say is 100% correct, I experienced the pad getting extremely hot and creating sink holes some have gone as far as destroying the pad, the pads with the hole in the middle are the best and only kind I use, once again thank you for sharing your knowledge
you are the man! i love watching your videos and enjoy the fact that you get straight to it no music in the background, no editing, just detailing!
Scott, this video you have made has truly helped me to understand some really important details of properly getting the most from a DA polisher. I am new to this part of detailing & will be purchasing a machine of my own. I'm 68 Yrs. young & getting to tired doing it all by hand. Your my go too guy for all this detailing stuff. I respect your expertise. Bless Ya
Best Auto Detail Channel in youtube for the real world auto detailers!!!
Hey Scott got a little worried wasn't sure if you were still coming back figured you were spending time with your daughter great video keep up the great work and enjoy the holidays with your family and a very merry Christmas lots of love don't stop your mission to help others
Thank you scott! I'm new to paint correction. I got alot of scratches on my car, and you show me the best pads. I'm going to try americana's as you have suggested. I appreciate your videos!
Merry Christmas Scott! Thank you for all the time you have put into sharing this channel with us!
thank you very much Dan..Merry Christmas and much love my friend:)
You are absolutely right!! Love the Americana Global pads and products!!
Thanks Scott! I am going to try it out! In my opinion it is worth trying, because I have several different 21mm polishers and I like to test! Testing is always worth it when looking for the best results and the best is what I stand behind in my Pro Biz!
I’m a little late watching this but man your information has been so helpful I really appreciate your knowledge and recommendations for products, I have had great experiences with detailing thanks to you
What backing plate are you using that has the holes in it that lines up with the holes in the americana pads? I didn’t see backing plates on their website. Would the griots 5” vented backing plate line up with the holes in those pads?
Is it safe to use Maguire's ultimate compound as a replacement for Griot's complete compound for beginners using 2 step "orange then white" pads ?
@ Scott with Dallas Paint Correction & Auto Detailing: For an amateur detailer using the 6 in. 5.7 Amp Heavy Duty Dual Action Variable Speed Polisher from Harbor Freight, what pads would you recommend?
Good question!!
Robby C whatever you do, do NOT use the HF pads with the 6" installed backplate, the plate extends further than the pad backing and you will chew up pads like crazy. Their are "fixes," but nothing I'd feel comfortable working with.
I'd also recommend you strongly consider buying a 5" backplate, like the $10 Astra on Amazon, and use 5" pads. Smaller surface area gives the budget DA some extra cutting power and they're much more forgiving on curves, edges, small spaces etc..
The HF is a great machine for the money, but not a powerhouse. So for heavy duty defect removal you will need a microfiber cutting pad. Meguiars is a safe bet, and keeping with the simple theme I'd comfortably recommend a set of their compound, polish, seal/wax foam pads as well, along with their 105 and 205 compound and polish. That system is capable of serious defect removal and a fine finish. It's predictable and reliable, widely available, affordable, and has years of proven results. It is still my go to, and I've used it with the HF machine so I know what it is capable of.
What backing pad would you use
Thanks for your input, appreciated
@@jdisdetermined Great and informative answer. As a weekend warrior that's just about to start myself, I highly appreciate it.
Hi Scott,can u give me website for Americana global pads please? I can’t find at eBay or amazon!
Ive driled holes in my pad and yeah u are righg scott
Where you been? Merry Christmas to you and your family, think about you every time I look at my beautiful 5 year old paint job! I've received quite a few compliments on it, your the best.
wow thank you Mark:)...much love my friend
Would u recommend using the americama orange pad as a start and finishing off with americana black pad. My paint is only minorly swirled. Nothing major.
Hey Scott, I’m getting a DeWalt dwp849x which is not a DA it is a Rotary polisher. Would you do a video on one of these? Or, do you or any of your viewers have any words of wisdom on just a rotary polisher? There a tons of videos on DA polishers. Not a whole lot on rotary. I’m just a driveway Joe looking to do paint correction on my neglected car.
Merry Christmas Scott! Keep up the outside the box thinking and sharing with us.
I modified my griots pad ,I put 6 diagonal cuts , at 1/8 inch wide, and 1 1/8 inch long works awesome and don't get hot
I am happy to see you using "the last cut" that stuff rocks.
it is a great compound but its not the best..jace price should be supported but jescar cutting compound is better and cost less than last cut:)
Scott, Good stuff. I just wanted let you know I find your videos very informative and tremendously helpful. In my case the couple that focused on removing road grime with Purple Power Rv and Boat wash then following up with the Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish. The Best to You this coming year and Thanks Again
Were can I get them . PLEASE Let me know I looked on Amazon and eBay I could not find them
Always a lot of fun to watch. Thanks Scott, have a happy/safe new year 🤘🏼
Scott, thanks for bringing us back in, Merry Christmas 🎄
Have you ever tried an infra red thermometer to see the temp of the different pads ?
lot of unanswered questions here?? what backing plate did you use? where do you buy the pads? thanks for all you AMAZING videos
scott....will the americana pads work with a harbor freight da polisher??
Pretty sure they should using the correct backing plate for the pads size.
Glad your back. Great Video!! Thanks for your thoughts on the Americana Global Pad. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on The Last Cut Compound and Jescar Correcting Cream.
I actually bought a 5/8 inch hollow punch and started punching out a center hole in ALL of my lake country and meguiars microfiber pads because of issues associated with heat. But the 4 extra cooling chambers on the Americana Global pad makes more sense because the air is actually flowing through the backing plate. I'm amazed more companies aren't doing this.
Also, I know it's an expensive initial investment but the new Buff & Shine Uro-fiber pad is not only an exact fit pad but it's also BY FAR the coolest running microfiber pad on the market. I've been testing a single 5" uro-fiber pad on my Boss G15 for the past 5 months and after using it on 20+ vehicles it is showing zero signs of degrading. The fibers, the foam interface, and the velcro might actually be indestructible.lol. It's already paid for itself 10x over.
Merry Christmas Scott!
americana global also makes microfiber cutting pads that run very cool..im sure buff and shine microfibers are awesome but i tend to just use a rotary and wool pad for deep defects..i get tired of constantly having to clean the microfiber disks..lol
I know what you mean. I most likely would never use microfiber if I was mobile. Fortunately I have a shop with compressed air and even have a dedicated trash can for blowing out microfiber pads.
I use for all my projects only rotary. Obviously the heat is a problem with rotaries. Would americana pads be suitable for any rotary machines
Always good to see new content like this, Merry Christmas!
Hey Dallas. I have a question. I got all the colors for Americana global. I have the Koch Chemie Polishes and Compounds. Which color pad and Koch Chemie would go together.
Always great informational videos with equally great thought process explanation.
As usual, a very intriguing and informative video. Thank you Scott and Happy New Year everyone. May your days be blessed
Scott just been doing some reseach on wool pads for cutting and they are not pure wool! Most of them are synthetic man made wool, is there a difference between natural wool and synthetic wool when it comes to the buffing outcome?
What pad do you use to polish down to your original color of your vehicle. I used a wool buff pad and it didn't work good it generated more heat when I put pressure to the pad and I had my Ultimate polisher I got to 6 and I saw a little spot that I got my paint polished to where it looks like the original color but it took too long on a small area. I need a pad that cuts down to the point fast. I was using Meguairs Ultimate polish too. I just want to get the right pad to use.
Thanks for the iinformation.I truly appreciate your advice and insight. Thanks
Hey there Scott, i have a question. What backing plate do you use with the 5" Americana pads?
Thinking about just drilling holes in pads with a backplate template as a guide. Scott did you just have a crush on these pads or do you still think they are great? It is between these and the LC HDO pads for me, not sure which.
Hey Scott, my gfs car has some water spot that have been etch on her car for awhile now. What pad would you recommend and compound?
Are these also a buy for the smaller 8 mm throw, typical Harbor Freight 6" polisher too? Or are you saying just use these on the larger throw polishers?
Scott 4 minutes 34 seconds of your video what kind of backing plate is that, i paused the video too see if i could see the brand of the backing plate, that might work for what i need
thanks Marty
sierra2562 probably too late of an answer, but it looks like a Griots Vented Backing Plate
How about the best pad for heavy oxidation for a 7 inch polisher. Am looking for one that will remove the heavy oxidation or medium oxidation. I have yellow and orange pads at home but they not branded and I am using a rotary polisher so I can't go to high with the speed. 3 speed is pretty good though.
Great video thanks Scott and have a Merry Christmas from Pittsburgh PA
Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year
From day one, the biggest problem is that Rupes developed a system for people only interested in the tool technology (large orbit).
If they try the "system", the end user has no clue how to approach it. None.
So the end user does what comes natural, and tries to use their system in a manner that's familiar, often with less than remarkable results.
The only reason I figured out how to use it, was because of forums, and interfacing with people from the company on FB, and finally practicing on scrap panels.
So without that insight, it's a long road to hope.
I guess it's a moot point if someone hasn't even experimented with it. I mean, the first thing people do with it is put a washer in it, and then wonder why the pads are shredding, and compound is slinging with their blue combo. From there they quickly move on to more familiar territory.
To be clear, this isn't a slight on the end user, but an illustration to where Rupes could have better educated technicians on EXACTLY how they intended the use of the "system" in it's entirety.
I'm comfortable now with it to use it in a production environment, but if I can get away with the PC, I'll do it. For the record, I've never had the plate on a Rupes cut in to the pad. There might be a millimeter from the edge of the plate to the outside edge of the pad backing - on the Duetto.
I also brought back the Flex 3401. I did too many R.V.'s, and industrial trucks with a rotary/PC last season, where the 3401 would have gotten me home faster.
Hey Scott will these work with 8-9mm and 15mm Polishers
What backing plates are you using that match up with those pads?
Code Ronin looks like a rupes backing plate
Merry Christmas.Scott.
Which american pad color is good for a 1 step??
Merry Christmas Scott, hope you enjoy your holiday. God Bless You and Your Family Much Love To You From Me And My Wife ✌🏼
Marry christmas scott and thanks for your great videos!
Merry Christmas to you Scott and all your viewers. Keep up the great videos and all the best for 2018.
Thank you very much for sharing so much important information 🙇🏽♂️
Naive question... Why can't we drill a few holes in a lake county SDO pad and save a few bucks per pad?
Hey scott,thanks sharing the video and happy new year
about time ,we were worried.
Hi from wilmington Nc. I’m trying to find 6” pads for my orbital. Can you recommend any? This machine takes pads with elastic to fit over the foam
Great channel, Scott. If I am ONLY using polisher to remove light scratches (desert pinstriping on my Jeep), should I go with smaller pads (say 3") instead of the usualy 5-6"? Or am I risking too much concentrated pressure in my unskilled hands?
Merry christmas best
wishes for you and your daughter, be safe happy. Greetings from Athens Greece
I’m trying to understand what you are recommending. I don’t do this for a living. Accordingly I listen to other more experienced people. You recommended the harbor freight polisher but told us to throw away the backing plate, buy a 5” backing plate and 5 1/2 “ force pads. This video says to use the same size pad and backing plate with a thinner pad. As a result I’m confused and need clarification.
oh now i understand your confusion...i was sure i mentioned long throw polishers like the Rupes 21MM throw and how they can heat the surface of the paint and how that could be a problem...i don't watch my videos after i upload them, did i not talk about the long throw polisher like the Rupes 21????...i hope that helps with your confusion but I'm also sure i talked about the issue of long throw polishers as well and how they heat up the surface of the paint and how this pad will help with that issue...let me know Mark if i failed to mention that point within the video:)
Dallas Paint Correction & Auto Detailing Begs the question as to whether the pads offer advantage for the Harbor Freight (?)
Mark Silverman the Harbor freight polisher and the one in this video are two completely different machines. The one in the video is a long throw polisher that builds up more heat, now he’s talking about an issue with the backing plate and pads for the rupes machine which is not an exact fit. He brings up the Americana global pads which ARE an exact fit for the rupes backing plate, even has the same holes in the same location to reduce heat greatly. This has nothing to do with harbor freight machine or using 5.5” pads. Different set up for different application.
Bought the Harbor Freight pads. The heavy cut orange pad DIDN'T LAST ONE CAR. Actually lasted about 1/3 of a car before it started falling apart.
Another great video, Scott !...love ya, man !
the holes are blocked by the head of the machine , there's no where for the heat to esacape ???? so how does this dissipate heat ??
Great Video; will definitely have to get me a set of those pads
Merry Chistmas, Scott!
Hey guys I'm new to the detailing world here. My question is what sealant would you guys recommend for newbie like me. I'm currently stuck between Griots Garage Boss Sealant, Meguiers Ultimate comound wax/sealant and, Jescar sealant??
What are your thoughts on drilling holes into the backing plate? Drilling holes into a pads that I may already have?
i know guys that drill holes into lets say microfiber cutting disks..i would not recommend drilling holes into your backing plate because it will be out of balance...they do make many backing plates with holes in them, even for smaller dual action polishers..i loved the question:)
Hi Scott, are you still doing business? Your website link no longer works and I have not seen a new video in a long time.
Merry Christmas, Scott
Hi Scott Please help me. I am a keen Car inthusiast Bought Duren DA Polisher comes with 5'' & 6'' Back plate Do I need to buy Excatly 5'' & 6'' pads?
Thats interesting about the 21mm vs 15mm polisher. If I put a 15mm on my 21mm Rupes will that be a good idea?
Marry Christmas 🎄 Scott and everyone bless.. Boston MA
Thanks Scott, and Merry Christmas!
i see this video is 5 years old what brand is the machine that you are using in this video ? or are you using some else ? ( this is june 23 2023 )
*Merry Christmas Scott!*
Do they make polishing pads along with compounding pads?
Scott, its going to be a better christmas, after watching this video, your just so Awesome!!!! from Marty
much love my brother:)
Scott this pads works well with long throw polisher? Which one you recommend for maxshine 15mm? Great video
Happy Christmas Mr. Talking hands
What pads do you recommend for must haves from Americana Global? i.e. yellow, orange, and micro fiber?
i own them all:)...orange and black would be a good start and used about 75% of the time
Merry Christmas Scott
Hey Scott. Thanks again for the informative video. I assume the orange pad is a “medium cut” pad? So, could it still be used as a 1 step with Correcting cream? Or say with Fast correcting cream or perfecting cream?
yes orange is Medium Cut pad...yes you could use it as a 1 step and that depends on your desired results and the paint you're working on..remember not all paints respond the same:)
Yes sir, thanks.
thank you sooo much for this video. cant wait to get these in.
Hi Scott, where did you find the “perfect fit” pads? I looked on Amazon couldn’t find them. Is Americana the same as TCP global? Thank You
americanaglobal.com
Scott I have a question about your shurlhold. do you have a washer mod on your machine. Sorry for my English is very rusty.
the shurhold comes with a 6 inch backing plate and you will need a washer mod if you desire..im a 5 inch backing plate user and when i use the torq 5 inch long throw backing plate you will not need a washer mod.
Scott Thanks for your fast response appreciated
Sweet, will have to try these next time I'm in the market, thanks Scott!
Merry Christmas Happy New Year !
Hey Scott great content. Always! I had a question I wanted to start a side gig washing truck and trailers I was looking into getting a hotsey pressure washer. I was wondering if you had any tips into buying soap and what pressure I sure use during the wash
Jo Scott. I wonder if you have a polisher for sale?
Really thanks for your videos 👌
Cool vid Scott! Awesome pad info!
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Merry Christmas to You & yours Sir!
Faron
Scott, I've been using the harbor freight DA for about a year now, I was wondering if there is any benefit to moving to a more expensive machine or a mainstream brand?
that depends on how often you're doing paint correction...if you're a DIY and taking care of 1 or 2 cars in your driveway, i would say there is no reason to upgrade...if you want to upgrade from a harbor freight i would look at the griots 6 inch orbital, only because it has less vibration and a little more balanced but it doesn't have more power than the harbor freight...if you wanted to play with a long throw polisher than i would recommend the shurhold 3500 because it has a lot of power, more power than the rupes or griots boss long throw polishers plus its only about 180 dollars:)
Dallas Paint Correction & Auto Detailing what's the difference between say a normal DA and a long throw DA? Always confused when someone says it has an X throw. I work on my own personal car plus like one car a week for a client.
the harbor freight polisher has a 8mm throw..it not only spins at the pad but it has a 8mm orbit..when we talk about long throw polishers, we are talking about polishers that have a 15-21mm throw..this translates into a polisher that can remove defects off the paint twice as fast during the buffing cycle vs a small polisher that only has a 8mm orbit
Hey Scott,
Was looking at the pads by Americana and couldn’t quite figure out what color pads are for what type of cutting. Can you guide me a bit and explain what color does what best. Thanks again and Merri Christmas!
Fern,
Yellow is "Heavy Cut" M105, D300, Jescar Correcting Compound, M100, Fast Correcting Cream etc.
Orange is "Medium Cut" (typical orange pad) same compounds as yellow.
Black is "Polishing" M205, Hyper Polish, Jescar Polishing, Perfecting Cream, etc.
Red is "Ultra/Fine Polishing" Can either use as a jeweling pad, or use it to apply waxes/sealants to the surface.
Trent Hallmark thank you so much!
Thanks for the info Scott
you're welcome and thanks for watching...much love my friend and Merry Christmas:)
I bet Rupes and Griots are gonna jump on this and start punching 4 holes in there pads now! hahahaha!! Merry Christmas brother!
Yea you right , they probably will, this does make sense, for long throws and heating issues, this video just lays out plain and simple
mad wax....cool name
Scott backin plate flexible or ridge.
Wouldn’t take much to drill holes in any backing plate and pad to make your own cooling vents. A step bit would make clean holes.
Is is better than meguiars pads?
Since that pad is an "exact fit" and the side wall is straight up and down, I feel you'd run the risk of the backing plate rubbing on part of the car, say the under side of a side mirror or anywhere that something sticks out from the vehicle body. As such, I think I prefer using 5.5" pads on a 5" backing plate.
i have never had that issue..but i suppose some with less experience could get close to areas like you mentioned and damage paint..even with a 5.5 pad, i stay clear of those areas or tape them off...this pad provides so many benefits over other pads so its a no brainer for me
Is the red backing plate the Torq22D ? Since I bought one on your recommendation for the Shurhold, just wondered if the four holes line up with that plate or is it an Americana Global plate ? Also since I now have 10 LC orange FORCE pads are you saying that these thicker pads would get too hot to use with a 21mm throw ? Looks like Santa is going to have to go to the Americana Global website and put in a new pad order. Any pad selection advice to tackle most jobs ? I'm not going to order till I'm sure, based on your advice..............Merry Christmas ! Jeff
just about any pad will get the paint hot when using with a long throw polisher that has a 21mm throw...the americana pad seems to lower the heat on the surface of the paint plus with its design the pad will last longer and stay cooler vs other pads...the torq22d backing plate does have holes that you can line up with the pad but also worth noting is even if you don't line up the holes correctly most long throw backing plates are well vented to begin with so the holes within the americana pads will still work for you as well
OK, thanks. I've been using my heat indicator gun with different pads/techniques and I'll be curious to do a comparison once my pads arrive. I'm going to get just one of the yellow heavy cut pads just to test and 6 orange. I love the LC grey Force pads for "spot" correction and have found the orange LC Force pads allow me cut and finish in one step with GGFCC with a 8mm, for moderate defect removal.
a compound like Jescar Cutting Compound used with these americana global pads really drops the temperature of the paint as well:)...just a tip
Cool, I have not tried any of the Jescar products, I'll give it a try. I've been loving the GGFCC and Perfecting Cream so much I thought I have found the perfect combination, but always like trying out new products.
Hope you had a a great XMass ...Much Love, Jeff
I just picked up the Shurhold long throw and torq 22d 5 and 6 inch backing plates, as well as some Americana Global orange and black pads in each size. I found while giving this machine its first test drive yesterday, that the Shurhold backing plate did the job just fine and heat build up was virtually nonexistent, but it's nice to have that smaller 5" torq plate that I can throw on there if the situation calls for it. The Shurhold is smooth as butter in my opinion. A little loud for the user, but I just threw in my foam tipped headphones and listened to a podcast while I worked and that was enough to prevent ringing.
The only odd thing I noticed was that the black Americana Global polishing pad would experience some sinkage where you had applied the drops of polish after a handful of passes. Ended up switching to the orange pad as I had planned to do anyway (was just seeing what the black could do before truly correcting) and found it to be less forgiving over rough terrain leading to some pad stall occasionally that I had to work around (no KB washer mod at the moment), but gave far more feedback as to what was going on at the paint level than most other brands' mid range cutting pads and no sinkage from the polish. The orange pad is very sturdy/stiff, which I like, but it still finishes down really nicely for a respectable one-step with the right polish and technique (I was using sonax perfect finish on softer Japanese paint).
I'm a fan.
Gotta say thanks to Scott. The Shurhold 3500 pro and Americana orange pads are a great combo.