We have got to change orientation from high altitude orientation, where altitude is time and CRM, to low altitude orientation where airspeed and not altitude is life on every takeoff and every go around. Another thing we used to teach was, with lots of runway remaining after a bounce just add some power and make a soft field type landing. Neither Vx nor Vy was appropriate with all that runway and free ground effect energy available. But what was he taught? Nothing wrong with bush operations in the bush, but neither Vx nor Vy is ever appropriate on long runways. We have got to get back to teaching flying by feel rather than instruments, the law of the roller coaster, and what the airplane wants to do. Wolfgang had it right. Airmen Certification Standards have it wrong.
So what happens if a student pilot has an accident like this and is deemed at fault? Are they barred from obtaining a licence? Or do they get some form of second chance?
Kind of a natural instinct after bounce with nose up attitude - add power and go around. Hard to override that instinct esp w/ likely student or low time pilot. It was trimmed back with full flaps for landing. When it bounces and you add power, it naturally wants to climb. Should dump the flaps, trim wheel back to neutral, if you're going to try a go around.
@@avflyguy Bad to dump the flaps before gaining speed. This scenario is a busy moment. My move would be full power, a full swipe or maybe 2 of nose down trim, and hold it level in ground effect milking the flaps up while speed builds to around 80 mph. At that point youre probably good to fly it away.
@@lorinkramer5805 I haven't heard what happened officially, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility; so yes, I'm serious. However, it's also possible he forgot the airplane wouldn't climb pitched-up ~ 45 degrees and below stall speed. Seems the former's more likely however -- shocking as it seems.
What a smooth landing l, taxi and park! Did not let anything fluster what he had to do. Professional and good awareness
We have got to change orientation from high altitude orientation, where altitude is time and CRM, to low altitude orientation where airspeed and not altitude is life on every takeoff and every go around. Another thing we used to teach was, with lots of runway remaining after a bounce just add some power and make a soft field type landing. Neither Vx nor Vy was appropriate with all that runway and free ground effect energy available. But what was he taught? Nothing wrong with bush operations in the bush, but neither Vx nor Vy is ever appropriate on long runways. We have got to get back to teaching flying by feel rather than instruments, the law of the roller coaster, and what the airplane wants to do. Wolfgang had it right. Airmen Certification Standards have it wrong.
Make sure the master switch is off and cut off the fuel. Maybe that bird woulda survived without a fire. Live and learn.
Ouch.
Noooo,destruido por el impacto contra la tierra.
So what happens if a student pilot has an accident like this and is deemed at fault? Are they barred from obtaining a licence? Or do they get some form of second chance?
I don't understand the decision to attempt takeoff following the bounce...Insights?
Trying to avoid pio. Mistake was not putting nose down and dropping below DMMS when he started his missed approach.
Kind of a natural instinct after bounce with nose up attitude - add power and go around. Hard to override that instinct esp w/ likely student or low time pilot. It was trimmed back with full flaps for landing. When it bounces and you add power, it naturally wants to climb. Should dump the flaps, trim wheel back to neutral, if you're going to try a go around.
@@avflyguy
Bad to dump the flaps before gaining speed.
This scenario is a busy moment.
My move would be full power, a full swipe or maybe 2 of nose down trim, and hold it level in ground effect milking the flaps up while speed builds to around 80 mph.
At that point youre probably good to fly it away.
Pilot error IMO. Nose high attitude and full flaps created a departure stall.
Maybe pilot's seat wasn't locked and slid aft causing an inadvertent pulling back on the yoke.
Ah…you’re not…really serious are you?
@@lorinkramer5805
I haven't heard what happened officially, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility; so yes, I'm serious. However, it's also possible he forgot the airplane wouldn't climb pitched-up ~ 45 degrees and below stall speed. Seems the former's more likely however -- shocking as it seems.
Hope he/she had renters insurance.
mistakes were made. obviously wasn't taught the primary lesson of aviation. a plane is a glider and stall is not your friend.
Power Power Power, did not have to happen