Thank you so much for your great work :) just a very friendly optimization idea: filming yourself more in the middle (the upper end of your head closer to the upper end of the video) would look better (btw the background already looks so much better than the green screen). And an outro would have been nice. Please keep the amazing work going, I really enjoy your dedication 🌻🌻
Appreciate you highlighting the achievements and leadership of Sherpa mountaineers, especially Cami Rita by name. The fact that over 30% of people who die on the mountain are Sherpa, the fact that in most cases Sherpa people's accomplishments aren't even mentioned Everest stories and the individuals aren't named there, that they're almost treated like equipment in these tellings even from the people they practically have to drag to the summit, is so crazy disrespectful. The dependence on yet disregard for Sherpa people is piece of Everest nonsense that indicates so much about the overall culture of climbers who go there
Well said. I couldn’t agree more. The Sherpa’s are treated like they are subhumans by some of the climbers. I’ve noticed that when books are written about their Everest experience they don’t have the common decency to use the Sherpa’s name. Also, in one video one climber admitted that he convinced his Sherpa’s to accept $12.00 a day. $12.00 a day to set up their tents, cook, carry their toys/clothes from base camp to camp 4 , then possibly have to drag them down the mountain when they get in trouble.
Your dry sense of humor wins me over every time! Very informative and excellent story -telling, sprinkled with dry humor, is the best kind of story telling. Keep up the good work!!
As a sports medicine doctor it seems very easy to stop the insanity and unnecessary deaths by simply requiring proof of the fitness qualifications of each climber before they are permitted on any 8K meter peak. Any world controlled by money and profit has a future consistent with war, death, and eventual destruction of all things beautiful and sacred..
People have destroyed this planet maybe its time for humanity to end. Theses people made a choice I do not feel bad for them all that money they paid could gave been used for animals and the environment
The 2 governments involved are supposed to limit permits, but they let things slide bc they need/want the money. Both countries are very poor. The companies that arrange these expeditions need to be held accountable too. You can have all rules you want, but when large sums of money's involved, all bets are off unless the government's get super strict and enforce the limitations and health restrictions.
I’m not sure this would work. Altitude is weird. I did a climb in Bolivia, 21,000 feet. I was in ridiculous shape. I had just spent 8 weeks on the Colorado section of the Continental divide trail. 12-13k feet regularly. On our ascent day, I got really sick near the top and struggled, while a Dutch duo who lived their entire life at sea level and had probably half as much climbing experience as I, made it. Sometimes even the fittest climbers don’t last the altitude, and the least fit climbers can somehow deal with it. But obviously the fitter you are, the higher percentage chance of success. But that was eye opening to me. You never know who’s going to come down with symptoms.
I've read both Anatoli & Krakauer's book and now I'm team Anatoli all the way. I still really love Krakauer's book but a lot of Krakauer's observations seemed assumptive and judgmental when he doesn't have all the information / isn't the most experienced climber of them all. I'm glad that it seems like history has been kinder to Anatoli after his passing; he is a hero.
Yes. Krakauer has the undeniable advantage of just being an actual good writer, so no wonder his words have a farther reach and a bigger impact. But that has nothing to do with how accurate what he wrote is. I don't consider him a liar, I think the contradictions are down to earnest mistakes, but he does (in my opinion) have the fatal flaw of over valueing his personal opinions and thoughts. And this is again just my personal opinion, but I could also imagine that his view of everything might have been especially skewed by trying to find the _story_ inside all the disperate facts and events. You need a narrative if you want to write about it well, but real life is so increidbly messy, and the knowlege from the word go that this would have to be a story in the end is maybe not the best perspective for an observer to have.
Krakauer is a victim of the cold war red scare propaganda - to him Soviet/Russian people were evil by nature thus he tried to depict Tolya as the villain, and well failed at it :)
Anatoli undoubtedly saved lives by helping those on the South Col. But Anatoli also ploughed on ahead of his team to summit just after 1pm, whilst the team he was supposed to be guiding was some 40 minutes behind him. His priority was to get himself to the top, when she should have been assisting those in his team. He spent 1.5hours at the summit of Everest, without oxygen. This meant that he was forced to descend ahead of others too because he needed to get to camp 4. If he had been wearing oxygen, and if he hadn't climbed on ahead of his group, the timings might have been quite different and more might have made it back to Camp with his assistance.
The idea of climbing and having to stand in line for hours like the lines for rides at an amusement park is just bizarre to me. Hiking, climbing, outdoor adventures are surely about the feeling of being in nature, the spiritual feeling, the isolation and so on is an almost religious experience. All those people, all those lines, just looks like a horrendous time and goes totally against the spirit and nature of climbing or anything of that nature.
Right! Ever since I learned this is how it is, I can't get over how bizarre and just stupid that makes the situation!! The pictures of those lines especially in steep parts horrify me! Needless to say what if one person fell and knocks everyone in the line down behind them, an accident waiting to happen, I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet! Even if I'm outside hiking, I don't want other people around me, why would I on a majestic mountain?! No way!
Hey! You showed us the doggos! Thank you! But you should know, you're a great storyteller! There aren't a lot of women in the disaster storytelling niche, and you are so good at it! Do not give up! Love what you do!
How long does it take you to build an episode like this one? I’ve consumed a lot of the available sources on the May 1996 crisis on Everest (was a 30 yr old climber at that time) and learned a lot of facts - and considered more nuance - due to your coverage. Much appreciated.
My cousin, Charlotte Fox, was on this expedition. She survived, thankfully. She has since passed away… that being said I remember when she came home and she had a slideshow from this expedition and told us all the stories. I was 16 years old and was absolutely captivated by the entire thing. Such a crazy and sad story. Also I am writing this at the very beginning of this video. Very excited to see the whole thing. 😁
I just read more about her and her life - it’s inspiring in a way that once she left home she never returned after finding the mountains. That was her home, and although some may think the way she passed was ‘anticlimactic’ for the adventurous life she led, from what I read her home was on a mountain. The way articles described her home sounds absolutely beautiful but I couldn’t find any photos so I’m not sure if what I’m imagining is true to what it looks like. In the end, she will live on in the mountains and be an inspiration for countless woman.
@@adventuresgonewrong I LOVE hearing that!! She was a total badass. And she went through so many trials in her life… and just carried on being an adventurer! She was also just really fun to be around. Very vivacious. Truly captured the room ❤️
@@GardeninGrace thank you for this! ❤️ she was awesome. And yes, I remember when she passed, being surprised at how it happened… I thought for sure it would have been on a wild adventure at some point. But sadly I think she did have some issues with alcohol later in her life ☹️ which may have contributed to how her passing happened. Alcoholism runs pretty rampant in that side of my family. I’ve been sober for 10 years because of it! Still her legacy is amazing and in her will she was incredibly generous - even my kids will benefit from it. Just goes to show how much heart she had ❤️
I've always found your channel to be the most even keeled, well researched ones out there. You don't sensationalize, you don't treat anyone like a villain, and you're more than willing to point out when common "knowledge" of an event is flawed. But this video? It's your best. The amount of researched you've done, the way you've broken down and explained basically everything, without going into superfluous information... it's all amazing. This is one of, if not the best, videos on youtube regarding deep dives into a major tragedy. Thank you for putting it together and I can't wait for part 2!
Thanks so much! I had many questions on my last Everest video about details I assumed were common knowledge (they weren't!), so I decided to break it down for the total newbie.
I read Bukreev’s book about this expedition, and the end of the video made me feel so sad for him. The guy was a true legend and he really showed that he was an amazing human being by coming back and saving people. He bitterly blamed himself for not doing even more when it would’ve been perfectly acceptable for him to stay down in the first place... I hope those who mocked him ate their words.
I recall reading John Krakauer’s excellent book (Into Thin Air) on this drama and thinking how utterly corrupted mountaineering had become. It’s gotten even worse since then. It’s now all about money, power, ego, and expected bad weather. Midway through your video, excellent storytelling as usual.
It’s interesting, it was all just kind of beginning then. And to see those lineups today, it’s just wild. And as I mentioned in the video, even Krakauer looked at the Everest climbers in the early days with contempt. Then he became one and later regretted it.
@@adventuresgonewrong Indeed. I think Krakauer was at least one of the few with enough integrity to admit when he was wrong. That year, 1996, truly was a harbinger of things to come.
@@SongsforSleepwalkers Agreed. Wasn't Krakauer meant to be a journalist, initially intended only to go to base camp? I read his book many times in the pre-TH-cam era, an excellent recounting of utter chaos, and l agree he has integrity. His book was published a scant year after the tragedy and must have been written in a state of shock or PTSD. In the most mundane situations, as they say, "accounts may vary".
The amount of care and effort you've put into this video is amazing. I particularly appreciate how you've tried to get a handle on all the available sources (instead of just taking the word of one or two people) as well as giving a detailed description of what the route actually consists of. Really looking forward to part 2!
I just found your channel. I have never climbed a mountain summit, never had a desire to, and I personally don’t understand the draw to risk your life to summit a mountain, but I find the subject fascinating and I’m very appreciative of how you explain things thoroughly to someone who knows nothing of the topic. Thank you and I can’t wait to watch the rest of your videos.
I read into Thin Air in the late 1990s and got hooked with everything Everest. Not a climber, but have now made three treks to Everest base camp, via different routes. I’m now 65 and preparing for my 4th trek in October. Once you experience the Himalaya in person, it grabs you and doesn’t let you go. It’s just so spectacularly beautiful . The Nepali and Sherpa people are best you will meet. Great work 👍🙏Namaste..
Wow! I'm 65 too and thought just selling everything, moving to Mexico and traveling all over central Mexico in a used RV was pretty adventurous...haha.
To me, that's the correct way to do Everest. Climb up as high as you can safely do, enjoy the view, and then come back down to celebrate with your friends and family.
I lost my nerve when you said, “moving ice” and “ladder” in the same sentence. Sorry my comment is lengthy with good reason. My friend, who told about “Into the Thin Air” when it came out, has since died due to a heart attack. Frank died just walking out of his apartment in NYC. Totally unexpected, dropped dead in his lobby. After hiking and climbing alone for many years, he dies surrounded by people who could do nothing to save him. Weird. I loved hearing about Frank’s adventures. I am fascinated by people who risk their lives in search of physical/spiritual fulfilment. I find fulfilment in helping other people. The physical quest holds no reward for me. But I interested in those who are different from me. Frank was very different to me and loved him for it. Thanks for an amazing channel and reminding me of a good outdoorsman and a great man.
Anatoli Boukreev seemed to be the only person involved here who had a solid understanding of the world and a innate common sense of what this undertaking all entailed. That clarity and keen understanding of life in general is a rarity that few people possess. He was probably one of the only climbers who were qualified and deserved to be there. He survived this tragedy only to die in an avalanche on Annapurna the next year. RIP to a true hero and legend, the kind you only hear about in stories ❤
Absolutely, he was a true mountaineer and lover of climbing, with true understanding and respect for the mountains. Although I do give much respect to expeditions' leaders who both died in sacrifice. But Boukreev was the hero.
It was interesting to me that Boukreev climbed without supplemental oxygen, not to prove he could do it, but because he truly believed it gave him a better chance. Whether he was correct or not, it does cast his climbing without oxygen in a different light.
And Krakauer felt it necessary to character assassinate a dead man to this day. Anatoli didn't deserve that , god knows how much worse that day would have been without Anatoli
@@tomlonghofer7552 100% I really believe it is better to train yr body not to need the oxygen to do such climbs as the majority of people die because their oxygen runs out
I like it how they all made fun of Anatoly's footwear, while there was a guy at the team whose extra, super, ultra-modern, experts-recommended new boots gave him multiple blisters, and another got a foot frostbite during first few climbs. So happy you are telling this story, can't wait for part 2!
He didn't have a lot of money. I vaguely recall him telling in his book that after some expeditions in the himalaya he would have to sell his climbing gear/boots to have enough money to get back home and live.
@birgit he accepted the job because he had little money. That's the case of most guides, otherwise plenty of them wouldn't get involved in these commercial operations for badly or downright unprepared amateurs with huge egos.
I just discovered this channel and I LOVE this new episode! You obviously do a ton of research! Thank you for covering this topic - Everest has been, dare I say, ruined due to the amount of death and garbage - all from us.
First video I've ever seen from you and now this is a never miss channel for me! Love your inflections, pace, and sense of humor. I've watched a lot of everest climbing videos and this is one of the best summaries of 1996 I've seen.
I'm only 5 mins in but already seriously impressed. A huge amount of research and work has gone into this! And not one but possibly 2 hours of this quality on the most interesting of the everest disasters? I'm so excited 🎉
Maybe 3 parts lol! It's so much info and people seem to like the longer ones so I may have a really long part 2 or 3 parts. We'll see how long it takes to cover the storm!
Very well researched & details I didn’t know bout some of the climber’s experience. That tragedy was so complex to explain & breakdown, but you nailed it 🎯
Sandy Pittman hiring multiple extra yaks to carry her stupid computer equipment and an espresso maker is the epitome of this - she had experience but she was one of the people that caused huge problems on this expedition.
I wrote a section of my PhD thesis on this expedition and after months of research and reading and interviews and articles read and consumed and performed I thought I knew it all. Yet you’ve surprised me with new info! Amazing. Keep up the HARD work. It looks good on you😊
I've watched several documentaries and read several books on the 1996 Everest tragedy, but I still learned some new things from you. Looking forward to part 2.
I love your storytelling. It feels like a special treat to get an extra long two parter. ☺️ I love to see your adorable doggos, too. They're so cute! 🥰
I’ve heard this story before, but your attention to detail and storytelling abilities make this the best version I think I’ve heard so far! Excited for part 2.
Your work on this story is amazing. When we topped out on Mt Asgard in ‘96, I had 2 bottles of Bollinger and a tin of caviar. We knew what a tool Krakauer was . He had that reputation among the climbing community since the late 80’s. So we knew John’s book was bs. Thank you
Cool fact about Sherpas: they’re uniquely adapted to high altitudes because they inherited genes from a now-extinct human species called the Denisovans. Homo Sapiens replaced the Denisovans, but some interbreeding took place and their genes live on to this day.
This is such an excellent summary of the mess in 1996. I am subscribing in hopes of learning as much excellent information about other adventures gone wrong. Thank you!
My teacher made us read "Into Thin Air" for our reading assignment but I really wish we would have the option to read all the other books written by survivors, I remember the end of the reading and how everyone's opinions had been formed based on what was written in that one book. I dunno feels like teaching a bunch of high schoolers about an important event only using 1 frame of reference ain't the best thing, especially when the views of the author weren't challenged in most the reading. HELL my teacher didn't show us the entire IMAX film of the thing so when I was watching that in my own time I was shocked when I saw the scene with Hall's last message... what a thing to leave out
This is the best video I’ve seen on TH-cam regarding this incident. The research you did is impressive. Most videos glossed through details and often time it’s the details that form a more complete picture of what really happened including possible mindset of Rob and Scott. Bravo!
These videos are so highly underrated. After going on a deep dive and watching a few documentaries/movies on the 1996 disaster your videos capture all the details spread across all the people who shared their experiences. Hope to read into thin air next Amazing job with these videos - I stayed up late because I couldn't turn part 2 off
The only problem with this video is that it's so interesting to watch and listen to that it's killing me to have to wait for part 2 to come out. Will be checking everyday.
Hi from Australia 🦘 you're a great story teller! I'm absolutely NOT an adventurer but I am hooked on these stories and I'm so glad I found your channel
I reallly appreciated the depth and thoroughness of your research! I have read about this event extensively over the years and yet still discovered new info. from your report. Thank you for this job well done and, as usual, for the great storytelling!
So well researched and interesting as always. I have watched quite a bit of stuff on this, but it still feels like a new story in many ways, you script your videos so well. Thanks for all the work you have put into this, it is no small task gathering all the different perspectives on this particular adventure gone wrong and presenting them in a really balanced way. Kudos!
thank you for making this! I never realized Everest was a "challenge" rather than a scientific expedition since all the way back during the first attempts! and frankly, that puts alot of what I already knew about Everest into better perspective. The additional information about how much pressure the leads were under to make this "successful" really shows exactly how far people are willing to go to boost their personal goals :/
Wow! I can't wait for part 2. I can't believe all the different expeditions there were! You really tie everything together in a way that makes it easy to process.
Thanks! I wanted to do it to keep it all straight for everyone, that way we can see all the factors that may have gone into decisions that were later made.
I have to commend you for having one of the best videos on this tragedy that I’ve seen here on TH-cam. I am thoroughly impressed, absolutely a job well done 👍🏻
Thank you for your passionate narration and in-depth research. I really like that you went into the different vocabulary, which are often skipped over in other videos of this ilk. 😊 Hope all is well with you 👍 I really look forward to your videos.
Kudos for a great video. It’s a fascinating topic and you’re a great story teller. Your dry humor makes it even better. Can’t wait for the second part.
You just made my Sunday! loved Krakauer’s book Into Thin Air. I became kind of obsessed with mountaineering disasters. I read Alive when I was in Grade 8 and it started my love of disasters of all kinds, but Into Thin Air was fantastic. ❤️🇨🇦
Who's REALLY To Blame? NO ONE. No one is to blame. Anyone who decides to climb Everest has made a choice to put their own life at incredible risk. If the mountain takes that life, it is no one else's fault or responsibility. It's simple: don't want to die on a mountain then stay off the mountain.
Just found this channel yesterday. Binging what I can. Absolutely great stuff, we’ll explained and detailed research. Excellent for people like me who like to learn new things and want it explained.
This is your best video....cannot wait for part 2. I never realized 200 bodies were left on Everest. Thats crazy climbing and camping with dead bodies littering up the place. One is too many. Ugh. My friend made a trip to Everest and was happy to make it to base camp. Any further was just not an option. She got a $$$ loan againt her home to pay for the trip. No old lady cruises for her she said. Cheers CD.
Whenever one of your videos gets posted our entire family gets excited! We absolutely love them and appreciate the time and effort you put in to do the research. Thank you - they’re better then anything on TV.
Mallory is a personal hero of mine - seeing the video of when his body was found for the first time was incredibly moving to me. After 80 plus years - and his clothing etc was very identifiable. They also saw that he appeared to have broken a leg when he (and his climbing partner Sandy Irvine) slipped. Also great storytelling!
You would probably like Thom Pollard's channel Everest Mystery. He has several videos on Mallory, and he was part of the expedition that found poor Mallory's body at last.
I’d suggest first watching Michael Tracey’s videos on Mallory & Irvine’s 1924 expedition to understand the context of the current discussion. His content is called out in another video on this channel addressing the 1996 Everest disaster.
@@retriever19golden55 Be sure to ask Thom about the photo of Mallory's face he took after digging him up flipping him over, after the first group took time to cover him in rocks and have a burial/consecration ceremony. Ask Thom why, after the first group, they dug up the grave and stripped Mallory of his underwear. Ask Thom why he didn't note the time on the watch or if there were traces of the watch crystal in Mallory's pocket. Ask him why the just threw rocks over top of him and left him with his leg sticking up in the air. Supplemental question, ask him why he thought it was OK to just climb over distressed climbers and leaving them to die when he summitted Everest. At first glance on his channel Thom comes across as a nice, hippy type guy. Scatch the surface and it just ain't so.
Really appreciate your approach, especially including those of us that are unfamiliar with the lingo, terms, and the locales. So thanks for including the basics, and sharing great pics/footage. Great job! A+
I know someone who worked with Beck Wethers at the time of the disaster. After he recovered enough to go back to his job, his coworkers used to tease him affectionately about his nose. His co-worker described him as a humble, brilliant guy who was great to work with.
Interesting about the teasing lol! He seems like a really good guy, and the fact that he realized after this whole thing that he was abandoning his family for his own selfish pursuits, looking for an ego boost, is pretty remarkable.
From his book and various interviews I’ve determined that Beck is not a nice guy….but then, many mountaineers are jerks. They are narcissistic, egotistical and totally self centered.
@@adventuresgonewrong He was at least honest enough to admit that depression/ mental health issues were what was driving him to get involved in such a risky pursuit. A huge number of those who go to Everest and K2 have never been honest enough with themselves to take inventory of what is motivating them to engage in something so risky as well as the potential negative effects that their death would bring upon their families.
This is the most informative video I've seen yet when it comes to the 96 disaster, or Mt Everest exploration in general, and I'm not even half way through. I love the way you put your sarcasm into it as well. I've always had a fascination when it comes to mountain climbing, especially Everest. I'm certain that need for whatever it is will never be me, but it is fascinating.
@adventuresgonewrong So true! I've watched videos and / or read things that I hadn't realized were something I had already read or watched videos about simply because it was from a different perspective!
I’m not sure why this video was recommended to me but I love it. I don’t climb or watch climbing content. However I am finding this video to be interesting and cozy to listen to while I work (despite some of its sad subject matter). The video is simple without being overloaded with transitions and TH-cam narrator voice. Like being back in school LOL. Thanks !
Excellent video as always! 🙌 I was glued to my screen, captivated by all the details you gave on everyone involved and by the building tension of the story! Not to mention your adorable dog! 😊 Can't wait for part II!
You are such a great storyteller ! I was listening with deep attention, I was living it. Bravo for the deep research, it’s a really great job. Cheers from France !
I simply wish to have an English or history teacher like you in high school. You would have made all the kids in class to grow into adults! I waited for 8 days for your part II and since I don’t see it coming today, I simply can’t wait and have watched this video :)
As someone who has periodically been obsessed with mountaineering, I love the way you’ve incorporated so many sources. I’ve read all of Ed Viestur’s books (they were what was available at my local library 🤷♀️) and so his version of this is the one that’s stuck with me the most. It’s really interesting to hear about the clients’ opinions on everything- I tend to think of mountaineering as incredibly risky and so consider the clients risk-takers as well, but you’ve made it very clear how they were aware of and frequently actively taking measures to minimize the risks. It’s made them much clearer as active agents and made the systemic issues with the guide system much clearer. I’m not very familiar with your channel, but a related topic I would be very interested in is a deep dive into the impacts of mountaineering on Sherpa culture and how that interacts with western culture. I know a number of Sherpa-led guiding companies have been started in the last decade or so, but I think they’re largely considered sort of second-class by western climbers, even though I suspect many of them probably have insane numbers for total guide summits. It’s been such a huge impact in so many ways - I’m not sure there’s another comparably sized ethnic group as well known world wide, and it has given so many opportunities while costing so many lives. I also wonder about the handful of Sherpa who wind up living and basing themselves in the west. My impression is that they’re both admired and othered. I don’t know how many Sherpa have written books or articles or done in-depth interviews, but I would absolutely love a break down of that interaction and the tensions that are sort of inherent to it.
Great video! I was recommended your channel and I am really enjoying your content. Into Thin Air was what got me interested into mountaineering books and the people who climb these dangerous peaks. I hope in the future you make a video about the K-2 2008 disaster, what happened to those climbers is terrifying.
This was a great video, very interesting and absorbing. You have a talent for narration. Like your previous Everest video, l really appreciate how fair-minded you are. Looking forward to Part 2!
Fantastic video, I enjoy long , in-depth storytelling like this and hope to see more vids such as this. I think your channel will explode if you keep this up. I know it’s a lot of work, editing and finding pics to aid the story (I find pics are so important in these kinds of channels) , but if your consistent, put out a video as interesting as this, at least one a week, you will get the subs, likes and eventually sponsored. I only watch TH-cam, channels such as this , blow up with consistent content that even if it’s been done, finding new info , pics and delivery is why someone would watch something that’s been over told and over saturated on every channel on the platform; New info, on over done cases and if you have nothing to add, just find a story that new and fresh. That’s always the second if not first option. New cases always are preferred, and recent ones…priceless! Good luck , I have subbed because of this video even though I have had another of your vids popping up for almost a week in my feed that I just have not clicked on. Now , I’ll watch it when I finish this one.
Thanks for the support. Videos like this cannot be done in a week, it’s simply too much research, writing and editing. Quality over quantity is my motto.
Hello from England 🏴, currently 4am 😮 Loving the channel, great work. N' aaw looks really cosy there with the doggos 🐾 😊 This is as close as I'd want to be getting to Everest, vicariously from my own cosy spot here with a nice cuppa tea ☕️
Part 2 is now OUT!! th-cam.com/video/n_HvvQQRG5A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2QoSPiYImHZ22chI
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Great work. Keep it coming
Just finished watching all of your vids. They are all great ! What a winner of a channel. Eagerly waiting for part 2 of the death zone. :-)
Thank you so much for your great work :) just a very friendly optimization idea: filming yourself more in the middle (the upper end of your head closer to the upper end of the video) would look better (btw the background already looks so much better than the green screen). And an outro would have been nice.
Please keep the amazing work going, I really enjoy your dedication 🌻🌻
Great job on part I. Looking forward to part II
Appreciate you highlighting the achievements and leadership of Sherpa mountaineers, especially Cami Rita by name. The fact that over 30% of people who die on the mountain are Sherpa, the fact that in most cases Sherpa people's accomplishments aren't even mentioned Everest stories and the individuals aren't named there, that they're almost treated like equipment in these tellings even from the people they practically have to drag to the summit, is so crazy disrespectful. The dependence on yet disregard for Sherpa people is piece of Everest nonsense that indicates so much about the overall culture of climbers who go there
100%! And in my next video, it’s told pretty much from the Sherpas perspective
Well said. I couldn’t agree more. The Sherpa’s are treated like they are subhumans by some of the climbers. I’ve noticed that when books are written about their Everest experience they don’t have the common decency to use the Sherpa’s name. Also, in one video one climber admitted that he convinced his Sherpa’s to accept $12.00 a day. $12.00 a day to set up their tents, cook, carry their toys/clothes from base camp to camp 4 , then possibly have to drag them down the mountain when they get in trouble.
What climber is this?! That is so disgusting!!😡
Your dry sense of humor wins me over every time! Very informative and excellent story -telling, sprinkled with dry humor, is the best kind of story telling. Keep up the good work!!
Haha thanks!
Totally agree. Great presence you have.
Totally agree! Wonderful to listen to. Loved the dog in the background at the start too 😂 ❤️. Great video, great channel
it's not Tibet, it is China. It is like someone would call all south states in US Mexico.....
@@adventuresgonewrong You're keeping me company when I study. You're the best!
As a sports medicine doctor it seems very easy to stop the insanity and unnecessary deaths by simply requiring proof of the fitness qualifications of each climber before they are permitted on any 8K meter peak. Any world controlled by money and profit has a future consistent with war, death, and eventual destruction of all things beautiful and sacred..
People have destroyed this planet maybe its time for humanity to end. Theses people made a choice I do not feel bad for them all that money they paid could gave been used for animals and the environment
The 2 governments involved are supposed to limit permits, but they let things slide bc they need/want the money. Both countries are very poor. The companies that arrange these expeditions need to be held accountable too. You can have all rules you want, but when large sums of money's involved, all bets are off unless the government's get super strict and enforce the limitations and health restrictions.
No one would be allowed. They all need Sherpas to bring them up
I’m not sure this would work. Altitude is weird. I did a climb in Bolivia, 21,000 feet. I was in ridiculous shape. I had just spent 8 weeks on the Colorado section of the Continental divide trail. 12-13k feet regularly. On our ascent day, I got really sick near the top and struggled, while a Dutch duo who lived their entire life at sea level and had probably half as much climbing experience as I, made it. Sometimes even the fittest climbers don’t last the altitude, and the least fit climbers can somehow deal with it. But obviously the fitter you are, the higher percentage chance of success. But that was eye opening to me. You never know who’s going to come down with symptoms.
@@MacawAviculture based off what qualifications tho? Sounds great on paper, not in reality!
I've read both Anatoli & Krakauer's book and now I'm team Anatoli all the way. I still really love Krakauer's book but a lot of Krakauer's observations seemed assumptive and judgmental when he doesn't have all the information / isn't the most experienced climber of them all. I'm glad that it seems like history has been kinder to Anatoli after his passing; he is a hero.
krakauer has been proven to have lied multiple times in the story and it's generally full of contradictions.
Yes. Krakauer has the undeniable advantage of just being an actual good writer, so no wonder his words have a farther reach and a bigger impact.
But that has nothing to do with how accurate what he wrote is. I don't consider him a liar, I think the contradictions are down to earnest mistakes, but he does (in my opinion) have the fatal flaw of over valueing his personal opinions and thoughts.
And this is again just my personal opinion, but I could also imagine that his view of everything might have been especially skewed by trying to find the _story_ inside all the disperate facts and events. You need a narrative if you want to write about it well, but real life is so increidbly messy, and the knowlege from the word go that this would have to be a story in the end is maybe not the best perspective for an observer to have.
Krauker & Sandy Pittman 's presence caused unnecessary stress & tension in both teams
Krakauer is a victim of the cold war red scare propaganda - to him Soviet/Russian people were evil by nature thus he tried to depict Tolya as the villain, and well failed at it :)
Anatoli undoubtedly saved lives by helping those on the South Col. But Anatoli also ploughed on ahead of his team to summit just after 1pm, whilst the team he was supposed to be guiding was some 40 minutes behind him. His priority was to get himself to the top, when she should have been assisting those in his team. He spent 1.5hours at the summit of Everest, without oxygen. This meant that he was forced to descend ahead of others too because he needed to get to camp 4. If he had been wearing oxygen, and if he hadn't climbed on ahead of his group, the timings might have been quite different and more might have made it back to Camp with his assistance.
The idea of climbing and having to stand in line for hours like the lines for rides at an amusement park is just bizarre to me.
Hiking, climbing, outdoor adventures are surely about the feeling of being in nature, the spiritual feeling, the isolation and so on is an almost religious experience.
All those people, all those lines, just looks like a horrendous time and goes totally against the spirit and nature of climbing or anything of that nature.
Totally agree, I would run the other way if I saw lines in the outdoors.
It's meaningless
By modern standards, the often reported “congestion “ on the 96 climb DID NOT EXIST..
Right! Ever since I learned this is how it is, I can't get over how bizarre and just stupid that makes the situation!! The pictures of those lines especially in steep parts horrify me! Needless to say what if one person fell and knocks everyone in the line down behind them, an accident waiting to happen, I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet! Even if I'm outside hiking, I don't want other people around me, why would I on a majestic mountain?! No way!
@@sweeneytodd011 not to mention the tons of trash and all the poo. Disgusting
Hey! You showed us the doggos! Thank you! But you should know, you're a great storyteller! There aren't a lot of women in the disaster storytelling niche, and you are so good at it! Do not give up! Love what you do!
Just wanted to let you know that dogs are everywhere. And even you could have one. Hope this helps with your dog excitement.
I 100% agree! First video and only a few mins in; loving it!
I’m having a blast so not giving up haha
The research behind your voiceover/narrative and the amount of visuals and clips you do is impressive - and so very appreciated. Thx!
How long does it take you to build an episode like this one? I’ve consumed a lot of the available sources on the May 1996 crisis on Everest (was a 30 yr old climber at that time) and learned a lot of facts - and considered more nuance - due to your coverage. Much appreciated.
My cousin, Charlotte Fox, was on this expedition. She survived, thankfully. She has since passed away… that being said I remember when she came home and she had a slideshow from this expedition and told us all the stories. I was 16 years old and was absolutely captivated by the entire thing. Such a crazy and sad story.
Also I am writing this at the very beginning of this video. Very excited to see the whole thing. 😁
Oh my thank you for your contribution here and I’m sorry to hear of her passing.
Very cool! Charlotte was my favourite of this whole group. Such a badass!
I just read more about her and her life - it’s inspiring in a way that once she left home she never returned after finding the mountains. That was her home, and although some may think the way she passed was ‘anticlimactic’ for the adventurous life she led, from what I read her home was on a mountain. The way articles described her home sounds absolutely beautiful but I couldn’t find any photos so I’m not sure if what I’m imagining is true to what it looks like. In the end, she will live on in the mountains and be an inspiration for countless woman.
@@adventuresgonewrong I LOVE hearing that!! She was a total badass. And she went through so many trials in her life… and just carried on being an adventurer! She was also just really fun to be around. Very vivacious. Truly captured the room ❤️
@@GardeninGrace thank you for this! ❤️ she was awesome. And yes, I remember when she passed, being surprised at how it happened… I thought for sure it would have been on a wild adventure at some point. But sadly I think she did have some issues with alcohol later in her life ☹️ which may have contributed to how her passing happened. Alcoholism runs pretty rampant in that side of my family. I’ve been sober for 10 years because of it! Still her legacy is amazing and in her will she was incredibly generous - even my kids will benefit from it. Just goes to show how much heart she had ❤️
I've always found your channel to be the most even keeled, well researched ones out there. You don't sensationalize, you don't treat anyone like a villain, and you're more than willing to point out when common "knowledge" of an event is flawed. But this video? It's your best. The amount of researched you've done, the way you've broken down and explained basically everything, without going into superfluous information... it's all amazing. This is one of, if not the best, videos on youtube regarding deep dives into a major tragedy. Thank you for putting it together and I can't wait for part 2!
Thanks so much! I had many questions on my last Everest video about details I assumed were common knowledge (they weren't!), so I decided to break it down for the total newbie.
I read Bukreev’s book about this expedition, and the end of the video made me feel so sad for him. The guy was a true legend and he really showed that he was an amazing human being by coming back and saving people. He bitterly blamed himself for not doing even more when it would’ve been perfectly acceptable for him to stay down in the first place... I hope those who mocked him ate their words.
I recall reading John Krakauer’s excellent book (Into Thin Air) on this drama and thinking how utterly corrupted mountaineering had become. It’s gotten even worse since then. It’s now all about money, power, ego, and expected bad weather. Midway through your video, excellent storytelling as usual.
It’s interesting, it was all just kind of beginning then. And to see those lineups today, it’s just wild. And as I mentioned in the video, even Krakauer looked at the Everest climbers in the early days with contempt. Then he became one and later regretted it.
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Indeed. I think Krakauer was at least one of the few with enough integrity to admit when he was wrong. That year, 1996, truly was a harbinger of things to come.
@@SongsforSleepwalkers i wholeheartedly agree. i read his book in 1998, have been more interested in the growing debacle called Everest ever since.
@@adventuresgonewrongi love your videos, they are always fascinating!
@@SongsforSleepwalkers Agreed. Wasn't Krakauer meant to be a journalist, initially intended only to go to base camp? I read his book many times in the pre-TH-cam era, an excellent recounting of utter chaos, and l agree he has integrity. His book was published a scant year after the tragedy and must have been written in a state of shock or PTSD.
In the most mundane situations, as they say, "accounts may vary".
Ahhhhh! My Saturday night just got way better! So happy you posted :)
Woop! It took half the day to upload, glad it came at a good time!
The amount of care and effort you've put into this video is amazing. I particularly appreciate how you've tried to get a handle on all the available sources (instead of just taking the word of one or two people) as well as giving a detailed description of what the route actually consists of. Really looking forward to part 2!
Thanks! I know many folks don’t know the intricacies of climbing it. Plus it helps understand why it’s so difficult and dangerous!
I just found your channel. I have never climbed a mountain summit, never had a desire to, and I personally don’t understand the draw to risk your life to summit a mountain, but I find the subject fascinating and I’m very appreciative of how you explain things thoroughly to someone who knows nothing of the topic. Thank you and I can’t wait to watch the rest of your videos.
I read into Thin Air in the late 1990s and got hooked with everything Everest. Not a climber, but have now made three treks to Everest base camp, via different routes. I’m now 65 and preparing for my 4th trek in October. Once you experience the Himalaya in person, it grabs you and doesn’t let you go. It’s just so spectacularly beautiful . The Nepali and Sherpa people are best you will meet. Great work 👍🙏Namaste..
Wow! I'm 65 too and thought just selling everything, moving to Mexico and traveling all over central Mexico in a used RV was pretty adventurous...haha.
sounds like you will possibly make some great entertainment for everyone on the internet someday.
It's funny, I've never had any interest in climbing Everest but I'd _love_ to spend a season at base camp.
To me, that's the correct way to do Everest. Climb up as high as you can safely do, enjoy the view, and then come back down to celebrate with your friends and family.
Great!! I want to go next spring & it’s gonna be my 1st time. What month is best in spring?
Eagerly awaiting part 2. Thank you for explaining the history of Everest and the basics of mountaineering.
I enjoy your storytelling style.
Your channel is terrific, it’s like listening to a really cool and knowledgeable friend tell interesting stories.😊
Thanks so much!
I lost my nerve when you said, “moving ice” and “ladder” in the same sentence. Sorry my comment is lengthy with good reason. My friend, who told about “Into the Thin Air” when it came out, has since died due to a heart attack. Frank died just walking out of his apartment in NYC. Totally unexpected, dropped dead in his lobby. After hiking and climbing alone for many years, he dies surrounded by people who could do nothing to save him. Weird. I loved hearing about Frank’s adventures. I am fascinated by people who risk their lives in search of physical/spiritual fulfilment. I find fulfilment in helping other people. The physical quest holds no reward for me. But I interested in those who are different from me. Frank was very different to me and loved him for it. Thanks for an amazing channel and reminding me of a good outdoorsman and a great man.
Yeah, that ladder thing would have been a tough one for me....me who has a hard time on log crossings over streams, haha.
I share that same fascination! RIP Frank.
Anatoli Boukreev seemed to be the only person involved here who had a solid understanding of the world and a innate common sense of what this undertaking all entailed. That clarity and keen understanding of life in general is a rarity that few people possess. He was probably one of the only climbers who were qualified and deserved to be there. He survived this tragedy only to die in an avalanche on Annapurna the next year. RIP to a true hero and legend, the kind you only hear about in stories ❤
Absolutely, he was a true mountaineer and lover of climbing, with true understanding and respect for the mountains. Although I do give much respect to expeditions' leaders who both died in sacrifice. But Boukreev was the hero.
It was interesting to me that Boukreev climbed without supplemental oxygen, not to prove he could do it, but because he truly believed it gave him a better chance. Whether he was correct or not, it does cast his climbing without oxygen in a different light.
And Krakauer felt it necessary to character assassinate a dead man to this day. Anatoli didn't deserve that , god knows how much worse that day would have been without Anatoli
@@tomlonghofer7552 100% I really believe it is better to train yr body not to need the oxygen to do such climbs as the majority of people die because their oxygen runs out
I like it how they all made fun of Anatoly's footwear, while there was a guy at the team whose extra, super, ultra-modern, experts-recommended new boots gave him multiple blisters, and another got a foot frostbite during first few climbs. So happy you are telling this story, can't wait for part 2!
Right!? Anatoli knew what he was doing, hiking around in his shot-putting shoes.
He didn't have a lot of money. I vaguely recall him telling in his book that after some expeditions in the himalaya he would have to sell his climbing gear/boots to have enough money to get back home and live.
@birgit he accepted the job because he had little money. That's the case of most guides, otherwise plenty of them wouldn't get involved in these commercial operations for badly or downright unprepared amateurs with huge egos.
Anatoly Boukreev would have made do with hob-nail boots & tweed.
I just discovered this channel and I LOVE this new episode! You obviously do a ton of research! Thank you for covering this topic - Everest has been, dare I say, ruined due to the amount of death and garbage - all from us.
Welcome! Yes it took me a month to do! Thanks for the support!
I agree. Photos and videos from Mt Everest are terrible, trash everywhere 😤 Humans pollute every single place on our Earth 😓
Leave us out of it. I've never been there so I didn't litter mount everest😹😅
Everest-sized egos will get you killed...
Great story telling - learned a few new things too. Very much looking forward to Part 2!
First, I love that you’re covering this story, and secondly, your dog is cute!
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First video I've ever seen from you and now this is a never miss channel for me! Love your inflections, pace, and sense of humor. I've watched a lot of everest climbing videos and this is one of the best summaries of 1996 I've seen.
I'm only 5 mins in but already seriously impressed. A huge amount of research and work has gone into this! And not one but possibly 2 hours of this quality on the most interesting of the everest disasters? I'm so excited 🎉
Maybe 3 parts lol! It's so much info and people seem to like the longer ones so I may have a really long part 2 or 3 parts. We'll see how long it takes to cover the storm!
Very well researched & details I didn’t know bout some of the climber’s experience. That tragedy was so complex to explain & breakdown, but you nailed it 🎯
What went wrong? Treating Everest like it's a for profit tourist attraction for rich people is what went wrong.
Well said
Sandy Pittman hiring multiple extra yaks to carry her stupid computer equipment and an espresso maker is the epitome of this - she had experience but she was one of the people that caused huge problems on this expedition.
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@4Mr.Crowley2 The coffee maker was a small hand held device.
@@sarahwales6276 You are correct. It was pretty small and lightweight.
You've really done a great job with this story and describing the people involved.
Thanks! I hadn't seen it ever described in detail so I thought I'd take a stab at it.
I wrote a section of my PhD thesis on this expedition and after months of research and reading and interviews and articles read and consumed and performed I thought I knew it all. Yet you’ve surprised me with new info! Amazing. Keep up the HARD work. It looks good on you😊
I've watched several documentaries and read several books on the 1996 Everest tragedy, but I still learned some new things from you. Looking forward to part 2.
Always Happy when I get a Notification from Adventures Gone Wrong!!!!!!
Edit:…And It’s an Hour long 2 Part series?!! Very Nice!!!!
I swear, I could do a 5-parter on this but am trying to keep it to two! The next one may just be 2 hours though...😂😂
@@adventuresgonewrong nobody will complain!
@@adventuresgonewrong We're here for it!!
Currently viewing your back catalog. This deep dive is really great! T.Y. ~
I love your storytelling. It feels like a special treat to get an extra long two parter. ☺️ I love to see your adorable doggos, too. They're so cute! 🥰
Happy people are liking a two-parter, it’s the only way to do it justice. I agree, the dogs ARE so cute! 😆
I’ve heard this story before, but your attention to detail and storytelling abilities make this the best version I think I’ve heard so far! Excited for part 2.
Your work on this story is amazing. When we topped out on Mt Asgard in ‘96, I had 2 bottles of Bollinger and a tin of caviar. We knew what a tool Krakauer was . He had that reputation among the climbing community since the late 80’s. So we knew John’s book was bs. Thank you
Cool fact about Sherpas: they’re uniquely adapted to high altitudes because they inherited genes from a now-extinct human species called the Denisovans. Homo Sapiens replaced the Denisovans, but some interbreeding took place and their genes live on to this day.
Hey! I like your stories. You have a good voice. Interesting to listen to. Keep more of these coming!
It’s the storytelling that keeps me coming back. Great video! 😃🫶🏻
This is the most detailed, comprehensive coverage of this tragedy that I have ever watched! Fantastic job!! BTW, your dogs are beautiful!
Love your dog in the background 😍. Thanks for another great video!
I agree. They seemed to really like making the C-54 Skymaster video. They got lots of exercise with the local topic.
This is such an excellent summary of the mess in 1996. I am subscribing in hopes of learning as much excellent information about other adventures gone wrong. Thank you!
What a great video! You're an excellent story teller thank you for all your hard work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
My teacher made us read "Into Thin Air" for our reading assignment but I really wish we would have the option to read all the other books written by survivors, I remember the end of the reading and how everyone's opinions had been formed based on what was written in that one book. I dunno feels like teaching a bunch of high schoolers about an important event only using 1 frame of reference ain't the best thing, especially when the views of the author weren't challenged in most the reading.
HELL my teacher didn't show us the entire IMAX film of the thing so when I was watching that in my own time I was shocked when I saw the scene with Hall's last message... what a thing to leave out
This is the best video I’ve seen on TH-cam regarding this incident. The research you did is impressive. Most videos glossed through details and often time it’s the details that form a more complete picture of what really happened including possible mindset of Rob and Scott. Bravo!
Thanks! There’s so many rumours that have persisted for years, some of these folks simply shut those down because they were there.
These videos are so highly underrated.
After going on a deep dive and watching a few documentaries/movies on the 1996 disaster your videos capture all the details spread across all the people who shared their experiences.
Hope to read into thin air next
Amazing job with these videos - I stayed up late because I couldn't turn part 2 off
Thanks for watching the series!
The only problem with this video is that it's so interesting to watch and listen to that it's killing me to have to wait for part 2 to come out.
Will be checking everyday.
Hi from Australia 🦘 you're a great story teller! I'm absolutely NOT an adventurer but I am hooked on these stories and I'm so glad I found your channel
Just discovered this channel, so stoked! Glad this exists (and that the sound equipment improved!)!
It’s a work in progress 🤣
This is by far the most comprehensive explanation of Everest that I have ever encountered. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and enlightening us.
You're very welcome!
I reallly appreciated the depth and thoroughness of your research! I have read about this event extensively over the years and yet still discovered new info. from your report. Thank you for this job well done and, as usual, for the great storytelling!
I love how your videos go in depth
So well researched and interesting as always. I have watched quite a bit of stuff on this, but it still feels like a new story in many ways, you script your videos so well. Thanks for all the work you have put into this, it is no small task gathering all the different perspectives on this particular adventure gone wrong and presenting them in a really balanced way. Kudos!
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it! Yes the research is a lot but it helps that I'm slightly obsessed with it.😅😅
Fantastic video as always, can’t wait for part 2!
Very informative! You have amazing oratory skills! Crisp, precise, and clear. It was an absolute pleasure to watch your presentation!
Thanks so much!
Another great video! Thanks so much for tying together all the different perspectives. Can't wait for the next one!
thank you for making this! I never realized Everest was a "challenge" rather than a scientific expedition since all the way back during the first attempts! and frankly, that puts alot of what I already knew about Everest into better perspective. The additional information about how much pressure the leads were under to make this "successful" really shows exactly how far people are willing to go to boost their personal goals :/
This is so informative! Great job, fantastic reporting!🌻🌼🐝 Keep it up 🙌
Just stumbled over this video. This is very well done. Clear, concise, entertaining, informative. This is how it should be done. Good stuff 👌🏻
Much appreciated!
You have me hooked on this story and I'm eagerly awaiting the next installment. Thanks.
Glad to hear it!
Wow! I can't wait for part 2. I can't believe all the different expeditions there were! You really tie everything together in a way that makes it easy to process.
Thanks! I wanted to do it to keep it all straight for everyone, that way we can see all the factors that may have gone into decisions that were later made.
I have to commend you for having one of the best videos on this tragedy that I’ve seen here on TH-cam. I am thoroughly impressed, absolutely a job well done 👍🏻
Thanks!
Thank you for your passionate narration and in-depth research. I really like that you went into the different vocabulary, which are often skipped over in other videos of this ilk. 😊 Hope all is well with you 👍 I really look forward to your videos.
Not even three minutes in and I can tell this is gonna be super well researched, I’m glad you read more than just into thin air
It is! I tried to find and read/watch EVERYTHING on it! I know a lot about it but learned some new things this time around. Hope you enjoy!
Kudos for a great video. It’s a fascinating topic and you’re a great story teller. Your dry humor makes it even better. Can’t wait for the second part.
Love your channel! Keeps me away from dangerous adventures. Thanks for uploading.
Amazing! Love your videos & your great narration. Can’t wait for part 2.
You just made my Sunday! loved Krakauer’s book Into Thin Air. I became kind of obsessed with mountaineering disasters. I read Alive when I was in Grade 8 and it started my love of disasters of all kinds, but Into Thin Air was fantastic. ❤️🇨🇦
Thanks a lot for your videos - now where is part 2 of this? ;)
Who's REALLY To Blame? NO ONE. No one is to blame. Anyone who decides to climb Everest has made a choice to put their own life at incredible risk. If the mountain takes that life, it is no one else's fault or responsibility. It's simple: don't want to die on a mountain then stay off the mountain.
That’s right. And anyone who expects rescue from the death zone is a know nothing fool.
If Hall had turned everyone around at 2pm would anyone have died?
This is THE 1996 Everest Disaster breakdown! You are so thorough and well-researched- this is an excellent, in-depth look of the entire thing.
Thanks! It was a total passion project, a comprehensive breakdown that I felt was missing. Glad others are enjoying it!
I am so bummed i have watched all of your videos and am now on the edge of my seat for pt 2!😢🎉😂
Just found this channel yesterday. Binging what I can. Absolutely great stuff, we’ll explained and detailed research. Excellent for people like me who like to learn new things and want it explained.
Spectacular, as always. I was saddened to hear of David Breashear's passing a couple of days ago.
This is your best video....cannot wait for part 2. I never realized 200 bodies were left on Everest. Thats crazy climbing and camping with dead bodies littering up the place. One is too many. Ugh.
My friend made a trip to Everest and was happy to make it to base camp. Any further was just not an option. She got a $$$ loan againt her home to pay for the trip. No old lady cruises for her she said.
Cheers CD.
Shed been better off taking a cruise.
@@giggiddy hi, as an old lady, I'd go for neither and move to the tropics.
I would go on a Trek to base camp. Besides airfare, it’s actually not that expensive. It all depends on if you hire guides and porters.
Everest Base Camp is on my my post retirement bucket list. I'll be 61 or 62, but feel confident and definitely up for the challenge!
Whenever one of your videos gets posted our entire family gets excited!
We absolutely love them and appreciate the time and effort you put in to do the research. Thank you - they’re better then anything on TV.
Love it! Thanks for the support!
Love from Alberta! You’ve got a great voice for storytelling and I love the stories you choose!
Even though I've heard this story a million times, your presentation is both refreshing and well researched.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Mallory is a personal hero of mine - seeing the video of when his body was found for the first time was incredibly moving to me. After 80 plus years - and his clothing etc was very identifiable. They also saw that he appeared to have broken a leg when he (and his climbing partner Sandy Irvine) slipped. Also great storytelling!
You would probably like Thom Pollard's channel Everest Mystery. He has several videos on Mallory, and he was part of the expedition that found poor Mallory's body at last.
I’d suggest first watching Michael Tracey’s videos on Mallory & Irvine’s 1924 expedition to understand the context of the current discussion. His content is called out in another video on this channel addressing the 1996 Everest disaster.
@@retriever19golden55 Be sure to ask Thom about the photo of Mallory's face he took after digging him up flipping him over, after the first group took time to cover him in rocks and have a burial/consecration ceremony.
Ask Thom why, after the first group, they dug up the grave and stripped Mallory of his underwear.
Ask Thom why he didn't note the time on the watch or if there were traces of the watch crystal in Mallory's pocket.
Ask him why the just threw rocks over top of him and left him with his leg sticking up in the air.
Supplemental question, ask him why he thought it was OK to just climb over distressed climbers and leaving them to die when he summitted Everest.
At first glance on his channel Thom comes across as a nice, hippy type guy.
Scatch the surface and it just ain't so.
This is a fantastic effort with a great story. I never get tired of learning more about it. Thank you so much!
Thanks for watching!
excellent presentation! looking forward to part 2
I have been waiting for this upload for so long.... please more !! thank you. 🥰
Really appreciate your approach, especially including those of us that are unfamiliar with the lingo, terms, and the locales. So thanks for including the basics, and sharing great pics/footage. Great job! A+
I know someone who worked with Beck Wethers at the time of the disaster. After he recovered enough to go back to his job, his coworkers used to tease him affectionately about his nose. His co-worker described him as a humble, brilliant guy who was great to work with.
Interesting about the teasing lol! He seems like a really good guy, and the fact that he realized after this whole thing that he was abandoning his family for his own selfish pursuits, looking for an ego boost, is pretty remarkable.
@@adventuresgonewrong Yes I think it’s remarkable too. He got a second chance to treat his family like he ought to, and I hope he made the most of it.
From his book and various interviews I’ve determined that Beck is not a nice guy….but then, many mountaineers are jerks. They are narcissistic, egotistical and totally self centered.
@@adventuresgonewrong He was at least honest enough to admit that depression/ mental health issues were what was driving him to get involved in such a risky pursuit. A huge number of those who go to Everest and K2 have never been honest enough with themselves to take inventory of what is motivating them to engage in something so risky as well as the potential negative effects that their death would bring upon their families.
This is the most informative video I've seen yet when it comes to the 96 disaster, or Mt Everest exploration in general, and I'm not even half way through. I love the way you put your sarcasm into it as well. I've always had a fascination when it comes to mountain climbing, especially Everest. I'm certain that need for whatever it is will never be me, but it is fascinating.
Thanks! I love the deep dives, there's always SO much more to the story than we usually see/hear.
@adventuresgonewrong So true! I've watched videos and / or read things that I hadn't realized were something I had already read or watched videos about simply because it was from a different perspective!
Excited for part 2!
Me too!!
I’m not sure why this video was recommended to me but I love it. I don’t climb or watch climbing content. However I am finding this video to be interesting and cozy to listen to while I work (despite some of its sad subject matter). The video is simple without being overloaded with transitions and TH-cam narrator voice. Like being back in school LOL. Thanks !
my first time on this channel....great storytelling and research...love your doggie !...subscribed!
Excellent video as always! 🙌 I was glued to my screen, captivated by all the details you gave on everyone involved and by the building tension of the story! Not to mention your adorable dog! 😊 Can't wait for part II!
I've not long discovered your channel and I just love it. You're a great storyteller ❤ Waiting to watch part 2
Welcome aboard!
You are such a great storyteller ! I was listening with deep attention, I was living it. Bravo for the deep research, it’s a really great job. Cheers from France !
Thank you so much!
I simply wish to have an English or history teacher like you in high school. You would have made all the kids in class to grow into adults!
I waited for 8 days for your part II and since I don’t see it coming today, I simply can’t wait and have watched this video :)
Wow, just stumbled upon this. Love your wicked sarcasm. Am an immediate fan. Interesting, informative and entertaining.
If you are in Mt Everest and constatly need somebody to "hold your hand". You are in wrong place.
As someone who has periodically been obsessed with mountaineering, I love the way you’ve incorporated so many sources. I’ve read all of Ed Viestur’s books (they were what was available at my local library 🤷♀️) and so his version of this is the one that’s stuck with me the most. It’s really interesting to hear about the clients’ opinions on everything- I tend to think of mountaineering as incredibly risky and so consider the clients risk-takers as well, but you’ve made it very clear how they were aware of and frequently actively taking measures to minimize the risks. It’s made them much clearer as active agents and made the systemic issues with the guide system much clearer.
I’m not very familiar with your channel, but a related topic I would be very interested in is a deep dive into the impacts of mountaineering on Sherpa culture and how that interacts with western culture. I know a number of Sherpa-led guiding companies have been started in the last decade or so, but I think they’re largely considered sort of second-class by western climbers, even though I suspect many of them probably have insane numbers for total guide summits. It’s been such a huge impact in so many ways - I’m not sure there’s another comparably sized ethnic group as well known world wide, and it has given so many opportunities while costing so many lives.
I also wonder about the handful of Sherpa who wind up living and basing themselves in the west. My impression is that they’re both admired and othered. I don’t know how many Sherpa have written books or articles or done in-depth interviews, but I would absolutely love a break down of that interaction and the tensions that are sort of inherent to it.
I too have read Ed Viesturs' books...he had his head squarely over his shoulders & is am excellent mountaineer
Great video! I was recommended your channel and I am really enjoying your content. Into Thin Air was what got me interested into mountaineering books and the people who climb these dangerous peaks. I hope in the future you make a video about the K-2 2008 disaster, what happened to those climbers is terrifying.
This was a great video, very interesting and absorbing. You have a talent for narration. Like your previous Everest video, l really appreciate how fair-minded you are. Looking forward to Part 2!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic video, I enjoy long , in-depth storytelling like this and hope to see more vids such as this. I think your channel will explode if you keep this up. I know it’s a lot of work, editing and finding pics to aid the story (I find pics are so important in these kinds of channels) , but if your consistent, put out a video as interesting as this, at least one a week, you will get the subs, likes and eventually sponsored. I only watch TH-cam, channels such as this , blow up with consistent content that even if it’s been done, finding new info , pics and delivery is why someone would watch something that’s been over told and over saturated on every channel on the platform; New info, on over done cases and if you have nothing to add, just find a story that new and fresh. That’s always the second if not first option. New cases always are preferred, and recent ones…priceless! Good luck , I have subbed because of this video even though I have had another of your vids popping up for almost a week in my feed that I just have not clicked on. Now , I’ll watch it when I finish this one.
Thanks for the support. Videos like this cannot be done in a week, it’s simply too much research, writing and editing. Quality over quantity is my motto.
So much research and details in your videos. All that work shows in your videos! Keep’em coming! ❤
Thanks friend!
Hello from England 🏴, currently 4am 😮
Loving the channel, great work.
N' aaw looks really cosy there with the doggos 🐾 😊
This is as close as I'd want to be getting to Everest, vicariously from my own cosy spot here with a nice cuppa tea ☕️
Yay! Ive been checking for this all day!
Excellent job! I’ve read several accounts of this but it’s still intriguing.