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These photos with hundreds of people lined up kinda defeats some of the purpose of being on Everest. This is supposed to be the most alone place on Earth that's not in water. All those people really messes up the emersive experience. After getting to the top it's such a kick in the dic to not be able to spend a lot of time up there. You need to leave pretty quickly or you will die. The lucky ones get up there well before noon so they can embrace that Godly moment. How the heck was she laying there saying save me to people that were still ascending? I thought you can't keep going up once it's dark during the last leg at night. I'm sorry to my family but if I was to die on the mountain I would not want my body brought down for burial. In my opinion, to be immortalized on the top of Mount Everest is the second coolest way to be put to rest. Imagine what the next dominate species on earth will think finding alien human bodies on top of the earth lol. My top way though would be to get let out into outer space. I guarantee sending bodies into space as a burial will become a thing someday. TBH I think this might already be a thing rich people do. I mean the Amazon guy took a trip to outer space and commercial flights are a very near future.
@@aaronburratwood.6957No, actually you can't. There are far too many variables to list in this comment but a few of the primary reasons are obviously altitude and weather (hurricane-force winds and sub-freezing temperatures). Another is the air is just too thin for most helicopters to generate enough lift to remain airborne and a single landing is enough to spark an avalanche that would kill everyone attempting the climb.
@@Montana-Native May 14, 2005, Didier Delsalle became the first and only person to land a helicopter on the summit of Mount Everest. Now hovering over the summit is very possible. The heli will just have reduced power and lift so it can't be overloaded OR it could have more powerful engines with more rotor head speed.
I'm thinking of climbing Everest as well. The only drawbacks are I hate the cold, I get dizzy looking down from great heights, I'm kind of old and out of shape (I can barely bend over and touch my toes), I get really impatient being held up in crowds, and I don't like camping or hiking. But other than that, I'm good to go. Wish me luck!
I cannot fathom the thought process of someone who says "I have absolutely no experience climbing mountains but I'm going to choose Everest as my first".
Apparently she wasn't interested in any other peaks or mountain climbing in general, she just had an obsession with Everest. It's like finding the deepest cave to go diving in after trying on fins in a pool.
They say this woman was "determined". She was no such thing! A determined person is one who is willing to put in the necessary work. She never bothered even to get herself to the necessary fitness level; constantly slowing everybody down, the only thing she displayed was entitlement: "I've paid my money, now you must all pander to my uselessness". There is a huge abyss between "determination" and "delusion".
The fact that she chose to ignore everything required to reach her goal is correct when described as determined. Willingness is someone who does what is needed step by step to achieve their goals.
She was determined. Your definition is wrong lol but I see your point. One can be both determined and foolish, determined and lazy, determined and willing to cut corners. Determination in this context is the act of deciding (or determining) to do something and remaining resolute and unchanging in that decision. The point is that she was irrationally determined. She was too determined. Determining to do something no matter what even when it risks your life for selfish reasons is obviously foolish and egotistical, but it is what it is. She was a clinical narcissist, it seems so to me.
I climbed Kilimanjaro about 15 years ago. Looking back it was nothing more than a circus of performers. The tourist climbers, as I was, in all our little parties with guides, porters, cooks etc. All lead guides striving to get maximum numbers to summit in order to gain bragging rights in the cut throat marketing efforts to gain future clients. Any notion of solitude and tranquillity in that environment was well and truly shattered and any further notion I had toyed with about doing any Himalayan peak, never mind Everest, died on the trip home.I can only imagine the Everest experience would be like Kili on steroids. When I see pictures of a huge line of 10s of dozens of multi coloured climbers strung out waiting for hours on end for their shot on the Hilary step and the sight of the trash strewn over the mountain of abandoned camps kit, equipment and waste just makes me despair. We humans invade nature’s treasured spots then set about corrupting then destroying it.
@@adventuresgonewrong Sorry to shatter your dreams but the reality of adventure tourism is that it creates the antithesis of enjoyment of wilderness and wild spaces by drawing the in the masses. There’s many in these ranks who target the big iconic peaks without experiencing the lesser ones. Discarded litter which has to be collected by porters or “clean up teams” who are sent periodically up the mountains shows that there are a few who have no regard or respect for wild places and leave much more than their footprints. I’m not criticising everyone who goes on these trips (as I’m as culpable as anyone) as for many provide memories for life experiences and the jobs they create are huge economic contributors to local communities, it’s just my disillusionment that when we humans get busy “taming” mother nature and “conquering ” high mountains we have the uncanny knack of desecrating wild places by “Disneyfying” it with signs, handrails and “comfort stops”. I’d say to you, go do Kilimanjaro if it is your dream and enjoy it on your own terms, respect the mountain and if you’re lucky enough to get to the summit, savour that moment. ( but never say you conquered it!😉)
This makes me so sad and it's spot on unfortunately. It's the monetization of everything that's ruined our society. The funny thing is you can find solitude and adventure by climbing a fourteener by yourself or with a buddy. They're challenging as hell for the average Joe and even someone in decent shape. But that's not very glamorous or IG worthy and it's not going to generate revenue for you as a "guide".
It’s so incredibly sad what adventure tourism and entitlement to natural wonders has done to our planet. The people indigenous to these beautiful places watching as something once beautiful turns into a trash heap littered with bodies of people that went there for bragging rights at dinner parties and nothing more.
It’s not that they told her that she would die that is bad, but they also said she WOULD KILL sherpas if she went up and STILL did it tells me everything I need to know about this person.
It’s common. I have quite a few friends from Nepal. One is a trek guide. People who climb Everest are usually inexperienced ego driven selfish humans who step over the bodies of sherpas every single climb.
As Ed Viesturs once said "Getting to the top is optional. Getting down is mandatory” People who ultimately decide to come back despite not reaching the summit are way wiser than those who persist and die
There’s signs like that all over the gran canyon in the USA. “Going down is optional, coming up is mandatory” with graphic images of people throwing up and dying.
I understand what the husband meant by saying that she was looking for something up on the mountain and it would have changed the way she saw herself. But at the same time it’s just a mountain, if you feel incomplete before you climbed Everest, being on the summit isn’t going to change that feeling.
Climbing the highest mountain in my home state (Idaho) elevated my spirit, reminded me who I am, and gave me a level of confidence I didn’t have before. But it’s not worth dying for. It takes more guts to turn around than it does to keep going.She had summit fever, pure and simple.
One day I hope to be the first green eyed man from the UK who was born on my birthday to climb Everest. I have very little climbing experience other than Mt Snowdon in Wales which was quite easy and I got a cup of coffee and a cream cake at the top. Anyone know what the cafe at the top of Everest is like?
Yes, I went there for lunch last weekend. They have this addictive burger made out of something called “solent (soylent?) greens” sorry, my spelling isn’t the best.
A major problem is that the self-help/motivation industry pushes the idea that you can do ANYTHING if you are determined enough. If people are realistic about problems and shortcomings then they are called weak because they lack self-belief.
My lack of self-belief is what keeps me alive. As much as I’d love to climb a mountain taller than 800m, it ain’t going to happen. I hiked up my local mountain, did some rock scrambling, and went back down. I conquered the mountain but it’ll be the only one I do. I’m not cut out for uphill slogs. Knowing my weaknesses is what makes me strong.
you gotta be determined enough to get physically fit, get proper training, experience, and of course be mentally prepared for the stresses of Alpine climbing. iguess she missed those parts of the equation.
The leader tried to save her life by stopping her from summiting in the first place. By going against advice, she put not only herself but also the sherpas in extreme risk. It's one thing to have determination, but it's another to refuse to see the obvious obstacles and warnings in front of you.
Exactly! He has a responsibility to his family to get home alive too. He gave up some of his oxygen for her, I certainly don't think he owed her any further risk of his own life.
She truly had a death wish. I applaud those who warned her, but she was unfortunately, a fool. 30 minutes of lollygagging on the summit? I'd have taken a photo & took off back down. It seems as if everyone knew she was walking dead the moment she arrived. From the penthouse suite of tents, complete with rugs on the floor shows someone who is out of touch with reality. The organizers of these treks should make each person sign off on allowing the decision to be made to end their trip to the summit when it is pretty obvious there is little chance they'll survive.
true. This is recklessness. I understand that she has the drive and determination but she should also be considerate of others. This is not a walk in the park or some fancy touristy thing
I wonder why he couldn't just say "You're not ready and we're not taking you to the summit"? He knew she was likely to die up there so couldn't he just refuse to guide her?
When I was a child in the 60s, Everest was still one of those places that only the most intrepid and experienced would attempt to climb. Nowadays it's a free-for-all, and frankly, I feel it would just be like any other over-hyped, over-crowded tourist destination, full of obnoxious foreigners leaving garbage everywhere.
I remember it being like that in the 80’s when I was first fascinated with it. The skill of the few people who made it was cool to watch, because it wasn’t like today - pay a ton of money and you get to go. No skill needed now.
bunch of obnoxious tourists ready to kill themselves and their guides (that are very much exploited) on an ego trip. I want to go to Nepal to learn the culture, see the animals... not to leave my plastic covered corpse as an eternal reminder of my hubris.
Yes. You basically pay a ton of money for some professionals to babysit your sorry, unprepared ass all the way up a mountainside so you can do the immature "I triumphed over all the odds" ego dance. It's a bit sad really...
And the crowds just make it more dangerous for everyone. Stuck in lines, getting cold from not moving, wasting oxygen, . . . Yes, novices should be excluded.
I remember watching the Everest movie and getting super pissed at everyone of those morons with families dying on the top of a mountain for no reason but ego.
@@forsaken841 Nothing wrong with climbing Mt Everest. It’s an adventure. But you definitely have to know when to stop and turn back, as well as if you’re even able to climb in the first place. She should’ve listened to her guides instead of her ego
Some were likely also fool hardy. Chasing a "dream" (except the Sherpas) which ended up claiming their lives. Mt. Everest can be a "beast" when it wants to be. Climb at own risk
Her leaders saying if she climbed she would kill them....and she went?!! That's so incredibly selfish. I already am opposed to the business of climbing Everest but this woman was near sociopathic levels
I have no trouble thinking she would have forced the sherpas to carry her back down the mountain and sacrifice their lives if necessary so she could glory in the magnificence of her achievement, never giving them another thought. Sherpa don't play that game.
People's lack of respect and regard for sherpas never fails to annoy me. If a sherpa tells you not to climb, listen. If a sherpa tells you that you are not only endangering yourself but also others, listen. I'm only halfway through the video but I think it's pretty obvious how the story ends. Toxic positivity and self help is a huge issue today. It encourages people to use magical (delusional) thinking and to believe that they can do anything. Not everyone is capable of everything. Knowing and acknowledging your limits is extremely important, especially in life and death scenarios. This story is so sad, so common and so incredibly avoidable. Some people are so mired in magical thinking that they cannot be reasoned with, no matter what. No company should have taken her on in the first place, not only endangering her but also the sherpas assigned to her. If she had trained for a few years and been patient I have a feeling that this story would have ended very differently. Very sad overall. I wish that someone could have gotten through to her. Don't let anyone convince you that you are being "negative" simply by acknowledging reality. Acknowledging reality could have saved this woman's and many other's lives.
A woke tendency to genuflect. In every video there must be multiple comments indicating a fervent desire that all Sherpas receive anilingus. They are the rock stars of their community, and they are also paid very well by the standards of their community. Maybe they should be paid better, different issue. They can and have unionized. How much would they be paid if there were no self-important douche climbers, maybe 0, maybe they would be riding the back of an ox.
I think what's especially sad is that people really are capable of quite a bit. But not everything. She could have accomplished what she wanted if she had practiced a little bit of patience and self-control. Which I think are more admirable qualities than simple hardheadedness and perseverance. Those qualities are what got her up the mountain. But also got her killed. They have to be balanced out with self-control, objectivity and patience.
@@R2Bl3nd So true, especially the patience part. We live in a society where everything should happen at once and we want to see instant results. Training for 5-10 years to get up the mountain safely wont cross as many peoples mind this day and age.
@@barbarakauppi9915can you blame them? A small place like Nepal that is mountain locked with not much in the way of commerce. People just try to make most of the cards they're dealt with. Try to understand situations before chalking everything up to greed.
@@stevo728822They lug equipment and advise their clients on the best ways to stay alive -- they're not really paid to deal with entitled people, alas, it's the same throughout all service industries.
@@jet6110 But their objectives were different. She wanted to go to the top of the mountain ignoring the sherpas life. They didn't want her killed (they already have the money cause "no refound"). So one is out of toxic determination, the other about empathy.
A lot of people don't understand that when you're climbing an 8,000er, you're on your own. No one forced you to climb, it is a dangerous and a super extreme sport. Sometimes I see people commenting on TH-cam regarding how inhumane others were to leave someone behind, plenty instances. But fail to understand that to save one person you're risking other's lives too.
I agree, you'll climb it or you won't, don't expect others to help you. they will if possible, but most of the time, it's just pointless. they can barely do one step let alone carry someone especially after such a long time spent on the mountain already, as it was also said in this video, everybody above 8k meters is slowly dying and it's a race against the clock. there will be many people risking their lives to bring your body down. so just don't be ridiculous, get a reality check. there's no reason to die for nothing. I mean what is the prestige anyway, look at the crowd, look at the queue. what's the point
Yeah, when it's too dangerous to attempt dragging two thirds of the dead people down, I imagine it's even more dangerous trying get those who are barely alive safely down.
I wouldn't go to a night club at sea level named the, "Death Zone". And then expect a person as dumb as me to save me. Which is to say, those imbeciles have confused the death zone with the rescue zone. And on top of that, more lives were risked to save her lifeless body to satisfy what? Now I'm off to watch videos of rescue divers that died trying to recover the bodies of inexperienced divers tresspassing in underwater caves of certain death.
She lived in Canada for pete's sake, she should have gotten actual experience on big mountains in Alberta and British Columbia not just caring a heavy pack up her office building. You need years if not a decade to lay the cardio base that is necessary to tackle the tallest mountain on earth. It's really the guiding services that need to set minimum fitness and experience standards and not just take peoples money.
Hell you could train anywhere. Weighted cardio, long endurance training, winter trips up summits. Living in socal I'm blessed because I can train in Sierras and along the PC. Over the course of a few season I trained enough to do Rainer, Whitney face, Shasta and Denali.
This might sound extreme butI genuinely think it takes a huge sense of self importance and narcissistic tendencies* to do what she did. She put others in danger, it wasn't like she went there and got out by herself. She made people climb with her, forced them to babysit her and ultimately recover her body all because she wanted to. It takes a certain lever of delusion and sense of grandiosity to do that.
The whole process looks completely grotesque at this point! It looks like no one learned any lessons after 1996 disaster, thanks for the video it's fantastic
This woman was from Toronto. She took to the streets and (illicitly) claimed to be raising money for the local Hospital for Sick Children, which is how she funded her climb. She was a con beginning to end. Even after her death her local fan base tried to keep up the scam. I do feel sorry for her husband, but regret she was not stopped early in the game.
"The summit is optional. Getting down is mandatory." is a great quote from Ed Viesturs. There's another one from a comic book Alan Ford: It's better being a living coward than a dead hero.
Never heard of Alan Ford, but that line is actually very old (so far, the earliest I've found a claim for is around 1900). The concept is an easy one to think of--I'd be willing to bet that, in one form or another, it's been around for thousands of years. The concepts of coward and hero have been around forever....
@@TheEudaemonicPlague So is a "Coward" really just a Person who wants to Live at all costs? That seems to be the Norm for everyone. Who wants to Die other than the Suicidal? 🤔
This was insane. I actually did a course in ice climbing and was a casual hiker. And, I would NEVER even think about climbing MT Everest without years of training.
30 minutes on the summit when you're exhausted and very low on oxygen is totally crazy and completely ego driven. I have compassion for all who lose their lives on the mountain but it's harder when people don't listen to advice, especially on the descent which is apparently the most dangerous time. It's sad that this sacred mountain has become a tourist attraction for those want a notch in their belts. You present a very important message here, and highlight valid points.
True, but lots of people say lots of things….and without hindsight, hard to tell if it is good advice, or if their concerns never come to pass. Like my sibling bought a started home in their 20s and my parents thought it was a terrible idea and to wait, but it happened to be about 2003 in the US, just before the huge housing bubble….and they did very well after fixing it up and would likely have been priced out and lost money if they waited a couple more years as my parents advised. I sure wouldn’t climb against the advice of guides, but many are seduced by the “just believe in yourself….you can do anything if you really try” message.
Never underestimate the mountain. Every year, many tourists go to Mt. Fuji without doing their research, dressed as if they were going shopping in the neighborhood, and get lost. Even after the climbing season is over and the mountain is closed, people continue to slip through the barricades and get into the mountain, causing problems.
@@nami4978At the peak of Mt. Fuji you still have ~70% of the oxygen concentration compared to sea level. It is way different to Mt. Everest. If you act braindead - it can still be dangerous. But you kind of have to be suicidal and really try to die there.
Her husband is wrong. Once you're in the death zone, no one else is responsible for you because it's so incredibly dangerous, you're lucky to make it out yourself. Suggesting that the expedition leader wait for her is absurd. Everest isn't like taking a hike through the woods.
@@Loki431 Absolutely. Even recovering bodies is dangerous as they are frozen and often weigh in excess of 200 lbs--after being chopped free of the ice that basically cemented to the mountainside. It is very tragic the number of individuals who have lost their lives during these rescue attempts.
@@pe4153 For most people, we’re proud of our determination for our own sake. Not everybody lives and breathes to impress the rest of the world. But I would agree that in this case, this lady definitely just wanted the accolades, not to impress herself by doing anything actually meaningful
I have been a mountain rescue operator for over 35 years all over the world as a civilian and an instructor at the Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center for a decade before that and I have no desire to attempt Everest. Not because I'm afraid of it, but because of the amount of inexperience that is allowed on that mountain. I believe it's just another deadly by-product of social media and the need to feed ones narcissism.
Previously, the desired reward was the sense of accomplishment for doing something in the real world. Now the goal is to get a zillion Facebook Likes and TH-cam views.
The problem with "strong willed" people a lot of the time is that they tend to ignore glaring warning signs of impending doom in pursuit of their goals...
This isn’t strong will witness let’s get that clear right off the bat this is narcissism. This is like a severely flawed character and disordered personality to put it in plain kind clinical terms people like this, you can’t help their perception is always incongruent with reality, their beliefs and characterization of themselves is not accurate and they don’t care about other people they care about her own image they don’t have self-awareness they don’t have integrity
@@jordanalandry1866 I couldn't agree more. I think people confuse 'strong will' for narccistic personality disorder. It's the determination to get home and over exaggerate how the experience was but the mountain did not her off easy and took her life as a result.
I always wanted to be the first red headed American who was 1/8th Cherokee Indian and a gingivitis survivor to reach the summit of Everest but then I found out there was not an escalator to the top as I had thought and since I was also very adverse to physical exercise my dream was shattered.
I know someone (friend of friend) who attempted Everest. The guy in front of him on the ladder stopped for 2 hours. Realizing that too much time had been wasted, he wisely aborted his attempt. Look at that graph for the simple-math answer-the more climbers, the more deaths. The incredible lines and bottlenecks didn't exist 30 years ago.
The fact she made it to the top shows how unskilled the entire climb is. Anyone can climb it ...the Sherpas haul your gear, lay the ropes, show u where to step, you just walk up the mountain being guided. " I climbed mt everest" no you didn't, you hiked up it. Theres no romance or triumph in getting to the summit.
well you can’t make that conclusion by judging one single person not considering thousands of others making it only to Advanced Base Camp on South Col. (Camp 2)
She wanted to find herself at the summit, but I think donating those $50k to a charity would be much more impressive than being carried to the summit of Everest.
Yep!! I think it should be donated directly to people in need rather than to charities, who typically aren't transparent about where the money is going. But it sounds like she lied about raising the money for charity, which is horrible.
I have always found the opposite, I can usually descend in about half the time as the ascent. That said my experience is hiking rather than mountaineering.
You're referring to the increased risk of faling down and twisting or breaking an ankle as you descend. That's not the issue with Everest. The countdown clock to your death starts after you reach a certain altitude. You have a limited amount of time to get to the top and back down before you die.
That's the opposite for me 😭 In my parent's childhood home, there is a river downhill. I am out of shape, but the descent is really easy. I am even skipping and stuff 😭 It was the ascent back that is hard, I have to literally crawl my way up because it was slippery 😭 Lately I am not even attempting to go to the river anymore because of that lol 😭
The level of selfishness required to put yourself in that position where you were entirely unprepared, ill-equipped, and willfully ignorant about the process, and to then expect everyone else to save your ass while putting their own in jeopardy is absolutely astronomical.
It is absolute insanity that unqualified, inexperienced individuals are even allowed on the mountain. They risk as you state not only their own lives but those of their sherpa guides who let's face it drag their unqualified clients up & down the mountain. This is so wrong! Thank you for your excellent content. Really enjoy your respectful informative commentary.
Having grown up just below timberline ( that line where trees cannot grow due to altitude) in the Rocky Mountains (60's, 70's) I have truly mourned and become horrified through the years watching the glory of nature be perverted by money, ego, tourism. I've seen so many of my fondest memories of (at the time) mostly inaccessible realms of nature ruined by the elite or arrogant (movie stars and politicians are the culprits). From the Rocky Mountains, to Bryce Canyon, so much of the "old west" is now ruined or regulated. I always think of that old Joni Mitchell song, "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."
I am struggeling with that too. Ive been doing a lot of different activities and trips. Usually with guides as I find that the most rewarding. And I have been turned away for not having proof or certificates proving I am experienced enough. Ive got several certificates from known and well reputed courses and training facilities that I have either gotten on my own or as preparation. Such as kayak,horseriding and diving with logged hours for example. Why this isnt done for trips like this is bizarre.
Kudos to the group leader for leaving her, honestly. It's tragic but that's a difficult call to make and he acted in the best interest of the group. It must be awful to know you left someone there to die but it was his job to keep everyone else safe and he did what he had to do.
I mean... He didnt. He was 100% clear and that she didn't even tell her husband shows, that she knew. He tried to save her, but she was to arrogant to listen to a guide that has been doing this for a few years already and knows how it works.
Exactly, she was utterly selfish. She had done no real training, refused to listen to anyone, was taking other people's oxygen and expected Sherpas to carry her down. She didn't care who she traumatised or if she caused the death of others.
The climbing group leder should never have taken her on, due to her almost total lack of climbing experience. Then a responsible group leader would have turned her back while they were training at base camp... she was obviously having trouble. The big Everest climbing guide companies have tough rules for a reason. She had found a small, local less expensive guide company. Nome of the big ones would take her, for obvious reasons.
9:38 as someone with no climbing experience whatsoever, I appreciate this sort of explainer of pace, as obvious as it likely seems to people who do climb. It closes that little loop in my head that wondered why exactly that stretch would take 10-12 hours. Thank you!
"I spent my money, I'm going to reach the summit" is an amazing motivational slogan. They should put it on T-shirts and give everyone who goes to Everest one to wear
To be fair - she actually did end up achieving her goal, which was to reach the summit. But the ultimate cost of her perilous trek - which was her very life - turned out to be quite a bit steeper (no pun intended), than the substantial amounts of money she had to dish out.
Can't imagine the frustration of waiting in that line, feeling your energy sap away minute by minute, knowing there's some unqualified person up there whining and holding everybody back.
Exactly. I am one of those person who like to do things fast and effective manner and if I have to wait for somebody to move I feel I'm burning fuel for nothing. I couldn't climb the Everest ever, not because of the mountain but because of the people.
I’m surprised she was allowed to stay at the summit for 30 minutes: I understand that every climber would want to stay up there longer but 30 minutes in the death zone, with scores of people waiting for you to get down so that they can get up there- that’s so selfish. Leaving 20 minutes earlier might have been enough to get her out of the death zone and saved her life.
@@mindrolling24I was shocked at that part too! I had seen other videos and I knew that the toughest part is coming down and she wasted so much time when she needed to beat the weather, have less oxygen, be tired as hell, and she tested it like a sight seeing experience. I do wonder if anyone died because she caused them to be delayed being able to go back down.
That long line alone should be enough to persuade any sensible mountaineer that climbing Everest has gone to shit. The only reasonable thing to do is cross it off your list.
If a leader says, "Hey, my man, you will die if you try to climb this." I am going to trust his judgement and respect it. Some people are too stubborn for their own good
Well people who would listen are smart enough not to be on the mountain to begin with. Or take it serious enough to train much more and be ready to climb.
Not only "she will die" but "you'll kill us all!" Unbelievable someone would continue after hearing you could not only kill yourself but others...the hubris of this woman is unbelievable!
As a relatively experienced mountaineer (I live in the Alps) the pictures of Mount Everest are just so shocking, the best thing about climbing (IMO) is the solitude and connection with nature, It seems like that aspect is just lost there. Also everyone who's actually had experience in mountaineering can attest, that It docent really matter which summit you pick because the feeling is always amazing (gets better with the physical challenge of course but it does not have to be Everest is what I'm trying to say)
Yes! I’m not even a mountain climber, but what’s great about nature is exactly the solitude! A place for just your thoughts. It’s a spiritual experience that most people don’t care about anymore
I am committed to being the first American to summit Everest whose first name starts with a J, was born on a Sunday in June of ‘89, while wearing a tuxedo, clown shoes, and a monocle. I am going to break barriers for soo many people who can relate to my exact circumstances.
You gotta make sure you have the monocle dude- an American with a J name who was born on a Sunday in June of ‘89 while wearing a tuxedo and clown shoes has already climbed Everest 🤷🏻♀️
I put more effort into my preparation to climb Mount Adams in Washington state than this women did to climb Everest.. the loss of life is sad but it’s also a warning to others that being determined is not enough in life.
I’m not going to try to compete at elite level in epee. I’m not 6’ with long arms. Sometimes it’s something else that best suits a person. Determination doesn’t change physical reality. Nor magically imbue someone with years of training and years of experience in different conditions. Often an experienced person is observing and processing many small & subtle things in their environment in a fraction of second, all going into their decision making, many things that an inexperienced person isn’t even aware of.
@@sorbabaric1 Maybe she had just watched the recent live action version of Disney's 'Mulan' and identified a bit too strongly with the 'Asian female protagonist'.
Any caring and honorable person would “Think “ others would help their fellow human being. But, at the end of the day these are egotistical fools daring to go where they aren’t meant to be. Only locals belong there. You don’t get my respect unless you go without oxygen, and without Sherpas. And even then I think it’s foolish and prideful.
I grew up at 10000 feet, and I have summited numerous mountains. No matter how prepared you think you are, you are only as strong as your body is. And most of all, you cannot stop moving. The minute you stop to take a “small break” you are done for. I almost made the mistake of stopping waist deep in snow after I had gotten lost from the trail. If I had stopped for a break that day I’d be frozen in the white forest.
I've spent my entire life in the Canadian Prairies, went to Utah several years ago and could barely even handle being 5000 feet higher than usual. My mom and I just felt really weird the whole time. I can't imagine trying to climb a mountain without properly training.
This is a very good thing to remember. I'm not planning on climbing mountains or going to the snow, it hardly snows in some regions in my country, but it's still a good survival tip to remember, thanks. I'm so glad you're here with us and share your experience.
@@snorttroll4379 it doesn’t matter how warm your clothes are. I was plenty warm, it’s more that no matter what if you stop generating heat and blood flow you will succumb to hypothermia.
The narration, backdrop, video clips and views of Everest and surrounding peaks made this exceptional viewing for me, even though I was already familiar with Shariya’s story. How she traversed the Khumbu icefall is beyond me. Great content!
I had 2 classmates of mine die at a treacherous mountain in Peru. They were only 21 and 23. They were athletic and thought of themselves as "experienced climbers" . But they had no guide with them and only made it half way up when they disappeared. 8 days later a rescue group found their bodies in a 100 ft crevasse . They think an avalanche happened or they both fell into it. So tragic. But when you're that young. You think you're invincible and smarter than you actually are.
Sometimes I think about the unnecessary risks me and friends took outside when we were in our teens and early twenties. Makes my skin crawl. You just don't properly get that risk is real and can affect you.
There was a veteran climber who had made the summit several times before doing so became so "trendy". He basically said (and I'm paraphrasing here) that the only truly remarkable thing someone could do on Everest nowadays is to essentially make the summit alone and never tell a soul. In other words you would forfeit all notoriety, bragging rights and make the climb for yourself and the experience alone and nothing else.
I think a big problem, aside from lack of experience, is that a lot of these people are so hyper focused on getting to the summit, they are forgetting they still have to go back down. Once they reach the summit and realize this, they are already too physically drained to make it down.
I climbed a much smaller mountain this year, and had to back out and get back to base due to a friends elevation sickness. Let me tell you, I wasn't prepared for how long it took to get back down. The paths were much less steep, more winding and serpentine, we started demounting at 2 AM and arrived at base way past sunrise. It would've taken us two more hours to get to the summit. Now, as I said, that mountain, the Fujiyama, is very safe and not that high, it would've taken a lot of effort to die on it, so we were fine. But that's exactly why climbing smaller mountains before tackling something like the Everest is important.
And the adrenaline rush is ebbing after reaching the summit. So they are exhausted, the body struggles to function in the Death Zone--but they need energy & alertness to make it back down safely. It is a recipe for disaster if ALL you focus on is the ascent.
Theres a saying in aviation that kills pilots its called Get there Itis which means pilots are so focused to land a plane even when it isnt safe to do so, for weather or w.e that instead of an alternate airport they kill themselves trying
This whole "the first this and that" is getting ever more ridiculous. Soon it will be "the first left-handed Asian 24 yr old woman from New Zealand with 5 kids and 3 degrees who likes dolphins and has met Kevin Bacon once to summit Mt. Everest".
Right. First Asian woman from Canada? Who cares. Hundreds of Asians and Asian women have summited. Is being a Canadian citizen meant to be some kind of major life handicap?
Yeah- notice how none of the dead people are from Aotearoa? We aren't like that here- people like that woman get schooled before it gets out of hand. If she started fundraising here for her holiday to Everest 😒😬 no- we would eat her... and it turns out that little bit of humanity, and humbleness that gets beaten into you in our country that doesn't in the places like the USA & Canada, actually saves lives... breeding 5 kids anyway- Jesus- we don't need more fuckers doing that kind of reckless, shelfish shit in our country anyway... again- people can go be over-consumptive climate deniers in Canada or USA or Britain or something... stay away from Aotearoa, we already have enough stupid & selfish & disgusting people trying to move here.
She literary is a prime example of the saying: „haughtiness comes before the fall“. She was so caught up in her self delusion that having second thoughts or even terminating the climb was no option. It’s sad to see how a person carelessly not only risks her life but rather dies than to be sensible…for what? To bathe in some fancied glory?
This is where you have to listen to your husband. I had to stop my wife a few times from doing something that would have killed her. She later thanked me.
Her determination was fueled solely by her desire to reach the summit. Once she achieved that goal, she didn't have anything left to make it back down. She had essentially burned the entire candle of her life just to make it to the top.
I’ve never been as thankful for not being strongwilled. I’d get to base camp, get cold and tired and think “what a beautiful place, it is worth some discomfort and hard work. To a limit. Let’s go home.”
Visiting a stress free country like the uk for a few weeks is enough for me. I’m not physically or medically strong due to no fault of my own, and I know my limitations. I never like to slow others down or make them responsible for my care. Hubs and I do our own thing. 😊
The saddest thing about this death is how extremely avoidable it would have been with more preparation. The fact that she was still able to get so far with so little experience just shows that she could have completed the climb successfully if she trained properly. She didn’t even need to be talked out of it, just better preparation.
Ummm…do you climb or know anything about climbing? Or just assuming you know? And “properly trained” means “spend 7k to fly home, forfeiting the 40k you just paid, then practice hours per day for 2 years, then repay our 50k fee plus another 20k in airfare, travel, gear, etc? That isn’t bad advice, but how many would do that? Less than 1 in 100 is my guess.
@Itried20takennames well.. you know.. usually people would train properly before they paid the money and showed up.. This chick went on a couple hikes and hit a climbing wall. Lmao.
@@Itried20takennamesI would expect someone, who wanted to climb Everest, to have at least climbed half a dozen other mountains maybe in the Alps, the Andes or the Rocky Mountains, including some glaciers.
Imagine if she has succeeded, her story would probably become a great inspirational story that would bring more deaths to Everest. Unfortunately we just don’t make enough movies to warn people about the danger of having unusual level of “determination” and “dedication”.
Her goal was to summit Everest. She did. But she died because she spent too long in the death zone when she should've turned back many hours before she continued to the top. She was already dying well before she summited.
I had read this girls story. Onr thing not mentioned here that was in this story was that Shriya believed that because she was Napalean (?) she had the genes to climb up Everest successfully. It turned out that genes plus no experience was not a good recipe to do the climb..A few human groups like dwellers of the Tibetan plateau and Andes mountains have developed a few better adaptations to elevation; but experience is needed on Everest. There should be a requirement that climbing experience and proficiency must be demonstrated and witnessed before being allowed to climb Everest
There's something that many people don't realize going up there. If one gets into trouble it's a slim chance they'll be saved. The other expedition members are already doing all they can just to keep _themselves_ alive.
The guys we went with you had to have experience with them, or show a resume with refrences and literally tryout. They declined more people than they brought. When we got there it became very clear not everyone there had been similarly vetted. That was really one of the scariest part of the whole thing, we might have our lives put at risk by people like this chick. It's unbelievable that a guide would take someone with zero alpine climbing experience.
She reached the summit, so she clearly did have the required minimal technical skills by the point of the climb... what she ended up not having enough of is stamina... also she might have had no experience to tell her what her condition was, but that happens even to seasoned climbers with a drive...
@@stanislavkostarnov2157 Well there you go. She barely possessed the strict minimal requirements to make it to the top, while having to be 'carried' heavily by her team, and slowing everybody else down. But once she finally reached it, which as you say, was 'the point' of her climb, she had forgotten to factor in another major component : GETTING BACK DOWN. So the way I see it, she was either completely blinded by her own hubris, or she just happened to have a very expensive & adventurous death kink.
I can’t even imagine what that was like. I am not a climber, but when a group of us turned 50, we did a live aboard dive trip to the Galápagos Islands. The dive masters wouldn’t allow anyone with less than 70 dives and a thorough checkout dive, and we still had to rescue a few who got bashed against the rocks. The idea of possibly dying because of someone else’s hubris is appalling.
I have the same level of Mountaineering experience as she did (0), and found hiking up Arthurs Seat in Edinburgh a challenge. The fact they even let her start a summit attempt baffles me.
@@greyfells2829 it's not just the person's life, though, in a lot of these cases. One of my college professors went missing on Everest a few years ago. Many people risked their lives searching for him. Eventually, they found his body which was impossible to retrieve without putting people in more danger, so his body is still there. He was an experienced and avid climber, but he still died on the way down Also, the popularity of Everest now means that there are queues on the mountain to get to the top, most dangerously within the Death Zone itself. People spend hours sitting around in very low oxygen. Idiots and noobs like Shriya are making the mountain far more dangerous for those who actually put the work in and have the ability to get to the top Not to mention the guides and Sherpas, many of whom are sort of forced to work in Everest-tourism, because it's one of the only opportunities for employment in that region of the world. Again, idiots are putting their lives at risk as well as their own
They do not have qualifications, if you can afford it then off you go! You can argue it is not just the climbers who are irresponsible, but the places that put together these expeditions. You should have a successful 8000 meter ascend before even being considered to go, sadly all you do is come up with the money and there you go, you are a sudden "climber" ready to ascend to a jetliner cruising altitude on a 29,000 foot mountain!
@@greyfells2829 Sure it's her life but she could've at least gain some level of experience. My brother and my sister love to climb mountains but they prepared by starting small and not get too ambitious the first time. They were able to ascent several mountains gradually and two years ago have successfully climbed Mt Kinabalu. They were planning to go climb Mt Kilimanjaro but Covid hit so they postponed that. My brother plans to climb Mt Fuji in the future. Experience can matter. If I was the owner of the guiding company, I would flat out refuse her.
These stories always cause me to reflect. As a young man I was a pretty active climber and bagged a dozen peaks, the Grand Canyon, and many challenging ascents but nothing above 16,000'. I know first hand how challenging a 20 hour ascent can be and would never attempt Everest. The risk/benefit is simply too high. So many folks with zero experience seem to think Everest is a Disneyland ride or something. It is heart-breaking to watch and I expect it will continue.
I love hiking Adirondack high peaks in the winter, hiking Mt Katahdin Knife Edge etc...and I have no interest in climbing Mt Everest. Maybe it’s our experience that gives us the humility that some of these inexperienced “adventurers” don’t have.
Yes, exactly. They get an idea in their head, but they don't have years of hard work under their belts that would give them the awareness of the difficulties involved.@@stellashepherd3229
That's pretty much the gist of it, lack of experience. There is absolutely zero replacement for it, no matter what field or topic. The internet - especially social media - is completely overrun by the peanut gallery who love to claim knowledge they do not possess, while selling each other on so-called "feel good encouragement".. Harkens back to debate and critical reasoning classes that ask you to provide and explain examples of when positives become negatives and vice versa - apparently a thought process rarely taught, or grasped. That same media has distorted so much of reality, hyping pretty pictures, etc., to make everything look like a video game or amusement park ride. That said, what restrictions can be put on whom and by whom and for what reasons? People die in all manner of mild pursuits every single day, yet they normally garner sympathy in one form or another.
Disney actually has an Everest ride too 🤦♀️😮💨 In my experience, its the perfect slice of thrill and adventure for these wannabes. They even have a Yeti to keep you on your toes! 😂
Im sorry but the owner leaving her was on her. She'd been warned by pros not to continue but she did. He can hardly be expected to commit suicide with her
Agree 💯 with this comment . Absolutely hypocritical of Russel Bryce to condemn him . Why should the owner risk his own life when he had given her the right advise but she refused to comply .
Agree but. 1. Nepal is a poorer country, 2. Permits and fees from climbing generate a lot of money in Nepal, and reducing permits to only the best climbers would cost Nepal significant income and the loss of many jobs. Should still be done, but those are jobs and money that Nepal would not have a replacement for currently. And even limiting climbers would not make it “safe” …you could only allow the top world climbers and you would still have deaths due to falling ice, other falls, HAPE/HACE (which are more common in older climbers, but can and do happen out of the blue in strong, young climbers, even Sherpas guides), sudden storms trapping people above camp 4, etc. If the goal is safety, then no one should climb any mountain…it isn’t safe.
I read (several times) the book “Into Thin Air” by John Krakauer about the 1996 Everest disaster in which 8 people died. It’s a fascinating story about the climbers and their own reasons for climbing despite the dangers inherent in the sport. The single mindedness of some of these climbers is so selfish and it’s hard to muster any sympathy for them. 🇨🇦
I think the issue is that for any extreme sport (which when we are talking about mountains over a certain height I would argue mountaineering certainly becomes) a combination of both sheer bloody minded stubbornness in the face of very real risk AND being extremely aware of your own limitations and safety concerns is required. You have to be that single minded or you'd never attempt the sport in the first place, but the moment that overtakes the other side of the scale people get hurt. Now for most extreme sports that results in a dislocated shoulder or a broken bone (in my case a femur while kayaking), a deep cut, some missing teeth etc, a badly bruised ego and a learning experience...and it tends to only needs to happen once for whatever lesson you needed to learn to really hammer itself home (again in my case its that trying to power through fatigue is a recipe for poor decision making in an environment where you cant afford it, even if its well within your abilities). But on a mountain as dangerous as Everest there is no learning experience as generally the mountain is going to kill you when it all goes wrong
I have no sympathy for people who take risks for excitement and adventure. I've done these things myself (though nowhere near as extreme as climbing Everest) in years gone by but only on my own cognisance. If you're sane, then you take full responsibility for your actions.
Imho people should be forced to read this book before being allowed to climb Everest. Apparently there's too many people who think it's a walk in the park. That environment is as hostile as can be.
That owner really did the right thing. Adults are adults because they are old enough to take responsibility for themselves. She had been absolutely clearly warned of the consequences of her decisions.
@R2Bl3nd I'm 100% sure all the clients are taken to realize very well what the challenges the climb entails. They also sign some form of consent confirming they realize what the dangers are and taking the responsibility for their actions. If she signed it without reading it's her own fault. She was a narcissistic fool and the guiding company is not to blame for that.
@@abuzarov , I agree with you. Whether you reach the top or not, all the people and equipment used to get you to that point need to be paid for. Also the no refunds are for the person that makes it to the last base camp and then gets to sick to climb, sorry but it took two weeks of porters, sherpas, and supplies just to get you to the first base camp. Than more people to get you to the next and so on. This is not a ticket to a theater show, this is a life threatening, physically, and mentally challenging experience. You don't get your money back for a theater ticket after the curtain goes up, same thing with this climb.
@@NadiaSeesItA different large tour operator canceled all his clients. He has an excellent safety record. All the big companies have clear no-refund policies, for having to turn around due to sickness, weather, safety, etc. The company she was with was a pretty irresponsible small local company. None of the big reputable companies would take her, and they cost a lot more $$$.
@@fgdj2000I believe it was Sir Edmund Hillary who said it only counts if you make it back down alive. Which is a good standard, or more people would push for only the summit. You literally have to remind these people to survive 🙄 they care too little.
Ive been climbing for over 40yrs. Ive got a lot of great friends who are into the alpine stuff. They've tried to get me on to numerous mountains with them. I once asked one of them (hes topped out all the highest and hardest peaks) to put in layman's terms what it's like. He thought for a while and said " get dressed in heaps of puffy gear, wrap a scarf around your face , put on a twenty kg pack and go walk up and down the fire stairs of the tallest skyscraper you can find until you can barely move your legs and then keep going up and down the stairs at least another ten times and you will have a slight taste of what it's like". He convinced me to stck with the rock climbing.😂
When I did a much less challenging hike I trained with weights in my backpack on the treadmill and stair machine. I still had trouble just hiking because I’m a flatlander. This was my most difficult hike. I didn’t complete the hike despite the fact I’d just retired from college rugby.
I had my first successful mountaineering trip in the weekend, I'd agree about the concept of hitting your limit then having to keep going. There's often nowhere to rest tired and cramping muscles. It's the first time I've done something where I feel like I need validation from others to justify the risk and effort, it clearly doesn't add up while I still have a wife and kids to look after.
He's fairly accurate there! I've only done some of the easier 14000ft peaks in the French / Italian Alps, and even on those, it's VERY noticable as you get higher that oxygen is in shorter supply than at sea level. Food packages swell up with the lower air pressure, and even walking up a gentle slope becomes a challenge. There is CONSTANT time pressure because as the day goes along, it gets warmer, so stone fall is more likely. The ONLY pleasant part of an Alpine experience is the view, and the end of the experience! Compared to rock climbing in the UK, the dangers are magnified 10X at least. Avalanches, rock falls, and issues created by 'moving together' over steep ground at higher altitude......Once you get to the 'Greater Ranges (Himalayas, Karakoram etc.) the dangers are HUGE. Blocks of ice the size of houses tumbling down the mountain, Crevasses HUNDREDS of feet deep, 100+MPH winds and temperatures far far below freezing. The word 'uncomfortable' doesn't even start to cover it, and 'misery' is only part way. IF you are a massochist, with olympic athlete levels of fitness, who doesn't give a shit about your own life, and the lives of your companions, then the Himalayan Mountains are for you! Otherwise.....Stick with rock climbing, same as I did (After a bit of a play in the Alps).
Well, I don't mind saying rock climbing is plenty scary enough, at least for some of us, with your life hanging upside down by a finger or two. I'll take that skyscraper with those nice stairs, perhaps even throw caution to the wind and not hold the railing. Not that I won't be going back country skiing, but 30-40 deg slope (at 12k elevation) is quite enough, thank you.
You can’t save everyone, and some people put themselves so deep in danger they will easily kill entire teams. To give in to your own emotions in a risky situation is extremely selfish. This is sad, I hope people learn from this.
@@hasslfoot It just looks like that whole entire process, from signing the check to perishing at the summit - assuming you even make it (as somehow, she managed to do) has become a bit too easy. And cheaply done. Just cutting every single corner until there's nothing left.
I walked in 1991 from Jiri to Mount Everest Basecamp, this was a beautiful hike and quite challenging because of the weather and the altitude. Despite resting days (as recommended) I started to suffer from altitude sickness which was so annoying (and painful) that I decided to return - one day before reaching the Basecamp. Going down went so much quicker and I immediately felt better. I was young and fit, and well trained, but not that eager to reach the Basecamp that I wanted to suffer for it. Cannot imagine this woman going so far and I think it is a shame for all the serious mounteneers that are actually able to do this and survive.
Anyone can get altitude sickness. Young, old, fit, out of shape. It can hit one time and not the next. Most people who die from this are young and fit because they ignore the symptoms...and death is close behind.
I believe most people are at their most vulnerable coming down the mountain after summitting, from everything I’ve watched. I’m a bit obsessed with the people that climb Everest as I think it’s weird that people are still doing this after it’s been done. But I would love to go to basecamp only and check it out. Good for you for having a goal of basecamp! I think more people should just be happy with that goal.
I love stories of mountaineering. Both successful and tragic. In the last few years I've stopped watching or reading about Everest expeditions because it always the same old commentary. Because I have come to enjoy your style of storytelling I decided to break that trend. No regrets. This was your typical informative and interesting narrative and I enjoyed it immensely. When I watch you I never seems like you're trying to tell me how I should feel about the story. Thanks so much.
Wow what a compliment! I love mountaineering stories too and have avoided them because I thought they were overdone. But I couldn’t stay away haha! I totally get the obsession to summit the tallest mountain in the world and wanted to share Shriya’s story. Thx for giving it a chance!
Thanks for this. Very interesting. Not something I would or could ever physically do. But I do enjoy vicariously experiencing the adventure through others. So very sad for all those families who have lost loved ones up there. 😢
One of the best preparatory exercises for an Everest attempt is standing in the queue for Taylor Swift tickets. The ability to stand in line for untold hours without any sense of the line moving is more important than altitude training, climbing practice or basic physical fitness. Those who ignore the Taylor Swift ticket line exercises do so at the risk of their very lives
I climbed mount everest way back on the 2000s. I had to train my cardio and body for half a year. Get everything prepared from the smallest equipment to the largest. Got me in contact with the climbing tour company. It was a hard climb and im glad i was able to reach the top ok. My heart goes for those who had lost their lives there. May they rest in peace. ❤
I was humbled by hiking a small ridge in Denali this summer, got altitude sickness I think and I knew if I kept going I wouldn't be able to get down on my own. so i sat down and rested while my dad went the rest of the way up the ridge since we weren't far. The only reason i didn't need help off that ridge was I knew i had hit my limit and didn't keep going to the top. I needed It was eye opening. It showed me how much training I'll need if I wanna get serious about mountaineering, and I was on a small hill next to the road not far from a ranger checkpoint. I can't imagine making that miscalculation on everest
I respect mountaineers and their dedication. I just am not one of those people that look at a mountain and try to figure out the way to the top. I look at it and know that it is beautiful and it can stay where it is and I can stay where I am and the both of us are better for it.
My first trek to the Everest Base camp in 2012 I trained for a solid 9 months to be in the best shape possible. By the time I got to Gorak Shep I was shattered. I wasn't sick, but we all had this nagging cough, and the lack of oxygen made even climbing a few steps an ordeal. I marvel at those that continues on after reaching Basecamp onto Mt Everest. Definitely not for those who are not prepared, or lack in conditioning.
Yeah, she made it to the top, and its portrayed like anyone with money can do it. She accomplished something pretty amazing, despite the outcome. I don't know her whole story, but she had to have been in tremendous physical shape. This video makes it seem like she just jumped off the couch and said lets go.
@@Ryan-jp3mh I don't think she trained properly...the hills in Ontario may be good for some training but even her cousin said she was lazy and wouldn't walk any place. I don't think she trained properly at all...and it showed as she was the slowest and weakest link there.
lol what video did you watch? She failed miserably....amazes me that people think climbing to the top is all it takes...you are only half way to finishing...you still need to get OFF the mountain...this is a clear sign of ego...only getting to the top where people take selfies...you still have to have energy to get back down but your precious little ego doesnt want to take that into consideration
Delusion and determination are completely different. She seemed to be under the impression that if she ever collapsed AFTER she reached the summit, she would be saved by the sherpas she paid thousands to. Her determination was to reach the top, but everyone knew and told her she would not be able to go up and come down. Her determination was blinded by delusion.
@@BlueDuck.-definitely a delusion- she got told repeatedly she could die and to not go, yet she expected others to endanger themselves to save her. It's not some kind of adventure movie.
Hubris and enthusiasm are poor replacements for experience and wisdom. Simply being determined is not enough, and her arrogance in the face of the highest peak in the world is stunning.
I hate that toxic positivity you see these days. "You can do anything you set your mind to!" Its fine if you take that idea to spend years learning and training for something. But not when you take shortcuts, thinking your "I can do it!" mentality is enough.
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That's true of every big mountain on the planet. As every experienced mountaineer knows, the descent is the most dangerous part of the climb. Read Deep Survival by Laurence Gonzales for a peek into that issue.
Everyone who died on Mount Everest , except the Sherpas who live there and are used to this sheer brutality of Nature , deserved his/ her fate!! Dumb foreigners who think money can buy them fame of whatever feeble sort of!
Not everyone. Way too many are locals who die helping the climbers whose "motivation" turned their home into a boom town where the only decent paying jobs mean risking your life.
The photos of those hyper-crowded final ascent routes are absolutely *shocking*. I wish people would admit the top of Everest isn't a place humans belong, and leave her in peace.
Keep the summit tourists coming. Nepal needs the money. Charge double and fine the guide companies if they don't clean up after themselves. Currently the capacity is limited by the single fixed rope. The usual profiteers could establish a second fixed rope parallel to the existing one and charge extra to use the new express line.
Part of the experience necessary with any adventure sports is knowing when to quit and being ok with that... Even when you've spent so much money getting there.
Hiking and outdoor influencers hardly ever film themselves saying “this situation is too dangerous, I’m going to turn around and come back another day’. They may tell you something’s difficult and dangerous, but then they film themselves on top of a mountain, having barely broken a sweat. Some of their viewers may ask themselves “how bad can it really be”?
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Can you just have a helicopter take you to the summit of Mt Everest?
These photos with hundreds of people lined up kinda defeats some of the purpose of being on Everest. This is supposed to be the most alone place on Earth that's not in water. All those people really messes up the emersive experience.
After getting to the top it's such a kick in the dic to not be able to spend a lot of time up there. You need to leave pretty quickly or you will die. The lucky ones get up there well before noon so they can embrace that Godly moment.
How the heck was she laying there saying save me to people that were still ascending? I thought you can't keep going up once it's dark during the last leg at night. I'm sorry to my family but if I was to die on the mountain I would not want my body brought down for burial. In my opinion, to be immortalized on the top of Mount Everest is the second coolest way to be put to rest. Imagine what the next dominate species on earth will think finding alien human bodies on top of the earth lol. My top way though would be to get let out into outer space. I guarantee sending bodies into space as a burial will become a thing someday. TBH I think this might already be a thing rich people do. I mean the Amazon guy took a trip to outer space and commercial flights are a very near future.
@@aaronburratwood.6957 I think there's an elevator on the South face.
@@aaronburratwood.6957No, actually you can't. There are far too many variables to list in this comment but a few of the primary reasons are obviously altitude and weather (hurricane-force winds and sub-freezing temperatures). Another is the air is just too thin for most helicopters to generate enough lift to remain airborne and a single landing is enough to spark an avalanche that would kill everyone attempting the climb.
@@Montana-Native May 14, 2005, Didier Delsalle became the first and only person to land a helicopter on the summit of Mount Everest. Now hovering over the summit is very possible. The heli will just have reduced power and lift so it can't be overloaded OR it could have more powerful engines with more rotor head speed.
I'm thinking of climbing Everest as well. The only drawbacks are I hate the cold, I get dizzy looking down from great heights, I'm kind of old and out of shape (I can barely bend over and touch my toes), I get really impatient being held up in crowds, and I don't like camping or hiking. But other than that, I'm good to go. Wish me luck!
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Someone with no legs could climb it at this point
You'll be fiiine..what could go wrong?
My hips are bad and I can't see so well but I'm down for going too.....
Well at least you didnt complain about stepping in the frozen poop and urine, rubbish and dead bodies.
I cannot fathom the thought process of someone who says "I have absolutely no experience climbing mountains but I'm going to choose Everest as my first".
Apparently she wasn't interested in any other peaks or mountain climbing in general, she just had an obsession with Everest. It's like finding the deepest cave to go diving in after trying on fins in a pool.
Narcissism.
It's that simple.
It's the result of being told you can do anything and backing that up with no accountability for making poor decisions.
Ego and a life time of not being told no and a circle of enablers.
@@penitent2401 but she was told she was going to die
They say this woman was "determined". She was no such thing! A determined person is one who is willing to put in the necessary work. She never bothered even to get herself to the necessary fitness level; constantly slowing everybody down, the only thing she displayed was entitlement: "I've paid my money, now you must all pander to my uselessness".
There is a huge abyss between "determination" and "delusion".
I'm not surprised she had a stint in politics.
The fact that she chose to ignore everything required to reach her goal is correct when described as determined.
Willingness is someone who does what is needed step by step to achieve their goals.
A narcissist trying to show the world what she can do to gain the most attention. I bet she hated every step
She was determined. Your definition is wrong lol but I see your point.
One can be both determined and foolish, determined and lazy, determined and willing to cut corners. Determination in this context is the act of deciding (or determining) to do something and remaining resolute and unchanging in that decision.
The point is that she was irrationally determined. She was too determined. Determining to do something no matter what even when it risks your life for selfish reasons is obviously foolish and egotistical, but it is what it is. She was a clinical narcissist, it seems so to me.
@@soberserotonin1850 pigheaded more like it.
I climbed Kilimanjaro about 15 years ago. Looking back it was nothing more than a circus of performers. The tourist climbers, as I was, in all our little parties with guides, porters, cooks etc. All lead guides striving to get maximum numbers to summit in order to gain bragging rights in the cut throat marketing efforts to gain future clients. Any notion of solitude and tranquillity in that environment was well and truly shattered and any further notion I had toyed with about doing any Himalayan peak, never mind Everest, died on the trip home.I can only imagine the Everest experience would be like Kili on steroids. When I see pictures of a huge line of 10s of dozens of multi coloured climbers strung out waiting for hours on end for their shot on the Hilary step and the sight of the trash strewn over the mountain of abandoned camps kit, equipment and waste just makes me despair. We humans invade nature’s treasured spots then set about corrupting then destroying it.
Well that changes my mind on wanting to do Kilimanjaro!
@@adventuresgonewrong Sorry to shatter your dreams but the reality of adventure tourism is that it creates the antithesis of enjoyment of wilderness and wild spaces by drawing the in the masses. There’s many in these ranks who target the big iconic peaks without experiencing the lesser ones. Discarded litter which has to be collected by porters or “clean up teams” who are sent periodically up the mountains shows that there are a few who have no regard or respect for wild places and leave much more than their footprints. I’m not criticising everyone who goes on these trips (as I’m as culpable as anyone) as for many provide memories for life experiences and the jobs they create are huge economic contributors to local communities, it’s just my disillusionment that when we humans get busy “taming” mother nature and “conquering ” high mountains we have the uncanny knack of desecrating wild places by “Disneyfying” it with signs, handrails and “comfort stops”. I’d say to you, go do Kilimanjaro if it is your dream and enjoy it on your own terms, respect the mountain and if you’re lucky enough to get to the summit, savour that moment. ( but never say you conquered it!😉)
This makes me so sad and it's spot on unfortunately. It's the monetization of everything that's ruined our society. The funny thing is you can find solitude and adventure by climbing a fourteener by yourself or with a buddy. They're challenging as hell for the average Joe and even someone in decent shape. But that's not very glamorous or IG worthy and it's not going to generate revenue for you as a "guide".
Imagine if we spread to other stars. No one elsewhere in the cosmos would want a bar of us.
It’s so incredibly sad what adventure tourism and entitlement to natural wonders has done to our planet. The people indigenous to these beautiful places watching as something once beautiful turns into a trash heap littered with bodies of people that went there for bragging rights at dinner parties and nothing more.
It’s not that they told her that she would die that is bad, but they also said she WOULD KILL sherpas if she went up and STILL did it tells me everything I need to know about this person.
Me too. And to further drive the point home : She's now dead.
_"Me, Me, Me, and meeee!_ 😮
yep and she photoshopped her own pic to as promotion is such an egotistical act.
It’s common. I have quite a few friends from Nepal. One is a trek guide. People who climb Everest are usually inexperienced ego driven selfish humans who step over the bodies of sherpas every single climb.
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As Ed Viesturs once said "Getting to the top is optional. Getting down is mandatory” People who ultimately decide to come back despite not reaching the summit are way wiser than those who persist and die
Wiser - and affluent.
There’s signs like that all over the gran canyon in the USA. “Going down is optional, coming up is mandatory” with graphic images of people throwing up and dying.
Agreed. I think the achievement is climbing as high as you can, coming back down, and then going home to tell your friends and family about it.
I think the statistics are that everyone who turned around made it down. The ones that died are all ones that summited. Not sure if that's true
This fits right in what filmdom's Dirty Harry once said: "A man's got to know his own limitations."
I understand what the husband meant by saying that she was looking for something up on the mountain and it would have changed the way she saw herself. But at the same time it’s just a mountain, if you feel incomplete before you climbed Everest, being on the summit isn’t going to change that feeling.
Great point.
Whatever she was looking for was not on that mountain. It wasn't anywhere external. It was within herself.
It depends what you are looking for. Everyone has different motivations.
Climbing the highest mountain in my home state (Idaho) elevated my spirit, reminded me who I am, and gave me a level of confidence I didn’t have before. But it’s not worth dying for. It takes more guts to turn around than it does to keep going.She had summit fever, pure and simple.
Celeste: Bad ending.
One day I hope to be the first green eyed man from the UK who was born on my birthday to climb Everest. I have very little climbing experience other than Mt Snowdon in Wales which was quite easy and I got a cup of coffee and a cream cake at the top. Anyone know what the cafe at the top of Everest is like?
Yes, I went there for lunch last weekend. They have this addictive burger made out of something called “solent (soylent?) greens” sorry, my spelling isn’t the best.
Yeah it's filled with frozen dead egomaniacs
@@RickP2012 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Best comment on here 👌 top Banana
@@RickP2012 you're kinda in luck because I haven't met that many green-eyed Brits
A major problem is that the self-help/motivation industry pushes the idea that you can do ANYTHING if you are determined enough. If people are realistic about problems and shortcomings then they are called weak because they lack self-belief.
Or movies that show a 115-lb. woman punching out a 225-lb. man.
I despise those self help books and motivators. 👳🏼♂️ “I am ‘Coach Genghis’, and I am here to school you!”
My lack of self-belief is what keeps me alive. As much as I’d love to climb a mountain taller than 800m, it ain’t going to happen. I hiked up my local mountain, did some rock scrambling, and went back down. I conquered the mountain but it’ll be the only one I do. I’m not cut out for uphill slogs. Knowing my weaknesses is what makes me strong.
Maybe if just little respect the Creator and see we are only human
you gotta be determined enough to get physically fit, get proper training, experience, and of course be mentally prepared for the stresses of Alpine climbing. iguess she missed those parts of the equation.
The leader tried to save her life by stopping her from summiting in the first place. By going against advice, she put not only herself but also the sherpas in extreme risk. It's one thing to have determination, but it's another to refuse to see the obvious obstacles and warnings in front of you.
Exactly! He has a responsibility to his family to get home alive too. He gave up some of his oxygen for her, I certainly don't think he owed her any further risk of his own life.
She truly had a death wish. I applaud those who warned her, but she was unfortunately, a fool. 30 minutes of lollygagging on the summit? I'd have taken a photo & took off back down. It seems as if everyone knew she was walking dead the moment she arrived. From the penthouse suite of tents, complete with rugs on the floor shows someone who is out of touch with reality. The organizers of these treks should make each person sign off on allowing the decision to be made to end their trip to the summit when it is pretty obvious there is little chance they'll survive.
true. This is recklessness. I understand that she has the drive and determination but she should also be considerate of others. This is not a walk in the park or some fancy touristy thing
I wonder why he couldn't just say "You're not ready and we're not taking you to the summit"? He knew she was likely to die up there so couldn't he just refuse to guide her?
Don't worry, as you can see the Sherpas didn't have any problems about just leaving her there did they....
When I was a child in the 60s, Everest was still one of those places that only the most intrepid and experienced would attempt to climb. Nowadays it's a free-for-all, and frankly, I feel it would just be like any other over-hyped, over-crowded tourist destination, full of obnoxious foreigners leaving garbage everywhere.
I remember it being like that in the 80’s when I was first fascinated with it. The skill of the few people who made it was cool to watch, because it wasn’t like today - pay a ton of money and you get to go. No skill needed now.
bunch of obnoxious tourists ready to kill themselves and their guides (that are very much exploited) on an ego trip. I want to go to Nepal to learn the culture, see the animals... not to leave my plastic covered corpse as an eternal reminder of my hubris.
Yes. You basically pay a ton of money for some professionals to babysit your sorry, unprepared ass all the way up a mountainside so you can do the immature "I triumphed over all the odds" ego dance. It's a bit sad really...
And the crowds just make it more dangerous for everyone. Stuck in lines, getting cold from not moving, wasting oxygen, . . . Yes, novices should be excluded.
About the equivalent cachet as going to Burning Man or taking a submersible to see the Titanic.
Every frozen corpse on Everest was once an extremely motivated person.
I remember watching the Everest movie and getting super pissed at everyone of those morons with families dying on the top of a mountain for no reason but ego.
@@forsaken841 Nothing wrong with climbing Mt Everest. It’s an adventure. But you definitely have to know when to stop and turn back, as well as if you’re even able to climb in the first place. She should’ve listened to her guides instead of her ego
So accurate
@@forsaken841 It's the easiest way to commit suicide while looking brave in the process.
Some were likely also fool hardy. Chasing a "dream" (except the Sherpas) which ended up claiming their lives. Mt. Everest can be a "beast" when it wants to be. Climb at own risk
Her leaders saying if she climbed she would kill them....and she went?!! That's so incredibly selfish. I already am opposed to the business of climbing Everest but this woman was near sociopathic levels
She also ran for public office.
So was the leader saying that and letting his less experience staff go with her anyway is the most uncomprensible decision.
I have no trouble thinking she would have forced the sherpas to carry her back down the mountain and sacrifice their lives if necessary so she could glory in the magnificence of her achievement, never giving them another thought. Sherpa don't play that game.
"Near"?
Exceeded.
Life can be a bitch, and sometimes you get to meet her in person...
People's lack of respect and regard for sherpas never fails to annoy me. If a sherpa tells you not to climb, listen. If a sherpa tells you that you are not only endangering yourself but also others, listen. I'm only halfway through the video but I think it's pretty obvious how the story ends. Toxic positivity and self help is a huge issue today. It encourages people to use magical (delusional) thinking and to believe that they can do anything. Not everyone is capable of everything. Knowing and acknowledging your limits is extremely important, especially in life and death scenarios. This story is so sad, so common and so incredibly avoidable. Some people are so mired in magical thinking that they cannot be reasoned with, no matter what. No company should have taken her on in the first place, not only endangering her but also the sherpas assigned to her. If she had trained for a few years and been patient I have a feeling that this story would have ended very differently. Very sad overall. I wish that someone could have gotten through to her. Don't let anyone convince you that you are being "negative" simply by acknowledging reality. Acknowledging reality could have saved this woman's and many other's lives.
This goes hand in hand with listening to a cop… right libs?
A woke tendency to genuflect. In every video there must be multiple comments indicating a fervent desire that all Sherpas receive anilingus.
They are the rock stars of their community, and they are also paid very well by the standards of their community. Maybe they should be paid better, different issue. They can and have unionized. How much would they be paid if there were no self-important douche climbers, maybe 0, maybe they would be riding the back of an ox.
Well said
I think what's especially sad is that people really are capable of quite a bit. But not everything. She could have accomplished what she wanted if she had practiced a little bit of patience and self-control. Which I think are more admirable qualities than simple hardheadedness and perseverance. Those qualities are what got her up the mountain. But also got her killed. They have to be balanced out with self-control, objectivity and patience.
@@R2Bl3nd So true, especially the patience part. We live in a society where everything should happen at once and we want to see instant results. Training for 5-10 years to get up the mountain safely wont cross as many peoples mind this day and age.
Kudos to the Sherpa’s having to deal with these types of egos. Brave and patient folks.
They do it for the money.
That's a funny way to spell greedy..
Why do you write "Sherpa's" with an apostrophe?
@@barbarakauppi9915can you blame them? A small place like Nepal that is mountain locked with not much in the way of commerce. People just try to make most of the cards they're dealt with. Try to understand situations before chalking everything up to greed.
@@stevo728822They lug equipment and advise their clients on the best ways to stay alive -- they're not really paid to deal with entitled people, alas, it's the same throughout all service industries.
I am glad to hear the two sherpas made the descent safely. Her own selfishness could have killed two other people forced to summit with her.
They aren't forced...they chose to be there. They can say no lol
@@jet6110 Sherpas are regular people who can't predict how entitled a person they climb with will be. Blaming them is evil.
@jet6110 Spoken like an affluent Westerner who has never experienced hardship
@@jet6110 But their objectives were different. She wanted to go to the top of the mountain ignoring the sherpas life. They didn't want her killed (they already have the money cause "no refound"). So one is out of toxic determination, the other about empathy.
A lot of people don't understand that when you're climbing an 8,000er, you're on your own. No one forced you to climb, it is a dangerous and a super extreme sport. Sometimes I see people commenting on TH-cam regarding how inhumane others were to leave someone behind, plenty instances. But fail to understand that to save one person you're risking other's lives too.
Everest: 8,850 meters (29,035 feet)
I agree, you'll climb it or you won't, don't expect others to help you. they will if possible, but most of the time, it's just pointless. they can barely do one step let alone carry someone especially after such a long time spent on the mountain already, as it was also said in this video, everybody above 8k meters is slowly dying and it's a race against the clock. there will be many people risking their lives to bring your body down. so just don't be ridiculous, get a reality check. there's no reason to die for nothing. I mean what is the prestige anyway, look at the crowd, look at the queue. what's the point
Yeah, when it's too dangerous to attempt dragging two thirds of the dead people down, I imagine it's even more dangerous trying get those who are barely alive safely down.
I wouldn't go to a night club at sea level named the, "Death Zone". And then expect a person as dumb as me to save me. Which is to say, those imbeciles have confused the death zone with the rescue zone. And on top of that, more lives were risked to save her lifeless body to satisfy what? Now I'm off to watch videos of rescue divers that died trying to recover the bodies of inexperienced divers tresspassing in underwater caves of certain death.
Yup Its death zone😮
She lived in Canada for pete's sake, she should have gotten actual experience on big mountains in Alberta and British Columbia not just caring a heavy pack up her office building. You need years if not a decade to lay the cardio base that is necessary to tackle the tallest mountain on earth. It's really the guiding services that need to set minimum fitness and experience standards and not just take peoples money.
It seems she had no love for mountains or nature or mountaineering, she just wanted to show how big she was.
She was from Toronto apparently.
Have you met Toronto people? They're pretty much children.
Weekend warriors have all the confidence and none of the experience.
Whatever that means
Hell you could train anywhere. Weighted cardio, long endurance training, winter trips up summits. Living in socal I'm blessed because I can train in Sierras and along the PC. Over the course of a few season I trained enough to do Rainer, Whitney face, Shasta and Denali.
This might sound extreme butI genuinely think it takes a huge sense of self importance and narcissistic tendencies* to do what she did. She put others in danger, it wasn't like she went there and got out by herself. She made people climb with her, forced them to babysit her and ultimately recover her body all because she wanted to. It takes a certain lever of delusion and sense of grandiosity to do that.
Narcissistic, yes definitely.
Textbook example
You can tell just by looking at her.
but she would've been the first Nepalese woman who lived in Canada to go back to Nepal and climb everest...
Did they recovered her body? Lots of bodies there. It costs a fortune to get a body down. Most dead climbers are just left.
The whole process looks completely grotesque at this point! It looks like no one learned any lessons after 1996 disaster, thanks for the video it's fantastic
Thanks! Stay tuned, I'm working on a DEEP DIVE of the 1996 disaster.
Who puts a poster of themselves up at base camp? 4 minutes in and that tells me everything I need to know about this woman
Exactly. Experienced climbers with multiple summits under their belt don’t even do that.
I thought, "sounds like a GTA person." Surprised not at all that she was.
"Vanity, definitely my favorite sin."
-The Devil
Narcissism kills. Everest doesn’t care.
Who doesn’t? My house is plastered with my face, personally.
This woman was from Toronto. She took to the streets and (illicitly) claimed to be raising money for the local Hospital for Sick Children, which is how she funded her climb. She was a con beginning to end. Even after her death her local fan base tried to keep up the scam. I do feel sorry for her husband, but regret she was not stopped early in the game.
She would have been the first southeast Asian woman from Canada! Wow!
@@matthewbrightman3398 Nepal isn't south east Asia.
She put others life at risk. She sounds like she cared a lot for herself and no one else
@M.T_323 Yes. It is.
Classic pay for death. Doubt she could even lead a 5.8 crack and build a natural anchor.
"The summit is optional. Getting down is mandatory." is a great quote from Ed Viesturs.
There's another one from a comic book Alan Ford: It's better being a living coward than a dead hero.
10 thumbs up for Alan Ford gang! :)
Never heard of Alan Ford, but that line is actually very old (so far, the earliest I've found a claim for is around 1900). The concept is an easy one to think of--I'd be willing to bet that, in one form or another, it's been around for thousands of years. The concepts of coward and hero have been around forever....
Alan Ford is awesome!
@@TheEudaemonicPlague So is a "Coward" really just a Person who wants to Live at all costs? That seems to be the Norm for everyone. Who wants to Die other than the Suicidal? 🤔
Read his books. They were quite interesting.
This was insane. I actually did a course in ice climbing and was a casual hiker. And, I would NEVER even think about climbing MT Everest without years of training.
30 minutes on the summit when you're exhausted and very low on oxygen is totally crazy and completely ego driven. I have compassion for all who lose their lives on the mountain but it's harder when people don't listen to advice, especially on the descent which is apparently the most dangerous time. It's sad that this sacred mountain has become a tourist attraction for those want a notch in their belts. You present a very important message here, and highlight valid points.
Staying up there for that long, would have caused others to have to wait even longer too. It's not like it's huge.
True, but lots of people say lots of things….and without hindsight, hard to tell if it is good advice, or if their concerns never come to pass.
Like my sibling bought a started home in their 20s and my parents thought it was a terrible idea and to wait, but it happened to be about 2003 in the US, just before the huge housing bubble….and they did very well after fixing it up and would likely have been priced out and lost money if they waited a couple more years as my parents advised.
I sure wouldn’t climb against the advice of guides, but many are seduced by the “just believe in yourself….you can do anything if you really try” message.
It has always been climbed to put a notch in a belt. There is no other reason to climb it.
I have compassion for those who died or couldn’t summit despite proper experience and training because of ego driven people like her….
I think she already knew she would die at that point. She was going to enjoy the few hours she had left. Selfish? 100% but I get it
For anyone wanting to climb a famous mountain, choose Mt. Fuji! It’s a fairly easy climb and incredibly fun. I’ve done it twice.
Plus you get to go to Japan and that’s rad
did you meet giant robot up there?
Plus you're (probably) not dying up there!
Never underestimate the mountain.
Every year, many tourists go to Mt. Fuji without doing their research, dressed as if they were going shopping in the neighborhood, and get lost.
Even after the climbing season is over and the mountain is closed, people continue to slip through the barricades and get into the mountain, causing problems.
@@nami4978At the peak of Mt. Fuji you still have ~70% of the oxygen concentration compared to sea level. It is way different to Mt. Everest.
If you act braindead - it can still be dangerous. But you kind of have to be suicidal and really try to die there.
"Saving lives is really the only job the expedition leader has" that's what he was trying to do by stopping Shriya from continuing to climb.
Her husband is wrong. Once you're in the death zone, no one else is responsible for you because it's so incredibly dangerous, you're lucky to make it out yourself. Suggesting that the expedition leader wait for her is absurd. Everest isn't like taking a hike through the woods.
Guy even gave her his spare oxygen tank. He put himself at serious risk to give her the slimmest chance.
@@Loki431 Absolutely. Even recovering bodies is dangerous as they are frozen and often weigh in excess of 200 lbs--after being chopped free of the ice that basically cemented to the mountainside. It is very tragic the number of individuals who have lost their lives during these rescue attempts.
What did her husband want him to do? Pull her down the mountain kicking and screaming that she wouldn't turn back? She failed to heed his warning
Yeah, i hate this arrogant shit.
People are so proud of their determination. You're one person, your determination means nothing to the world
@@pe4153 For most people, we’re proud of our determination for our own sake. Not everybody lives and breathes to impress the rest of the world. But I would agree that in this case, this lady definitely just wanted the accolades, not to impress herself by doing anything actually meaningful
I have been a mountain rescue operator for over 35 years all over the world as a civilian and an instructor at the Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center for a decade before that and I have no desire to attempt Everest. Not because I'm afraid of it, but because of the amount of inexperience that is allowed on that mountain. I believe it's just another deadly by-product of social media and the need to feed ones narcissism.
Spot on
Previously, the desired reward was the sense of accomplishment for doing something in the real world. Now the goal is to get a zillion Facebook Likes and TH-cam views.
Idk, some of the really famous bodies are from before social media. Rich people have always been stupid.
Someone tell Trump he's a mountaineer!
@@1515candomountain of bs, yes!
The problem with "strong willed" people a lot of the time is that they tend to ignore glaring warning signs of impending doom in pursuit of their goals...
The problem with “strong willed” people is they are too ignorant to realize they are a danger.
It's arrogant too
This isn’t strong will witness let’s get that clear right off the bat this is narcissism. This is like a severely flawed character and disordered personality to put it in plain kind clinical terms people like this, you can’t help their perception is always incongruent with reality, their beliefs and characterization of themselves is not accurate and they don’t care about other people they care about her own image they don’t have self-awareness they don’t have integrity
@@jordanalandry1866 I couldn't agree more. I think people confuse 'strong will' for narccistic personality disorder. It's the determination to get home and over exaggerate how the experience was but the mountain did not her off easy and took her life as a result.
@@jordanalandry1866 Well said Jordan, sums the whole situation up perfectly.
I always wanted to be the first red headed American who was 1/8th Cherokee Indian and a gingivitis survivor to reach the summit of Everest but then I found out there was not an escalator to the top as I had thought and since I was also very adverse to physical exercise my dream was shattered.
A gingivitis survivor! 😂😂 Such a golden comment, thanks for the laughs!
Good, at least you are still alive and not another frozen stiff dead bodies that littered that mountainside.
Sooooooooo funny 😂
LOL'ing. That gingivitis can be a killer.
80s rock star Billy Squire tried to hire a helicopter pilot to drop him onto the summit. They said no lol
I know someone (friend of friend) who attempted Everest. The guy in front of him on the ladder stopped for 2 hours. Realizing that too much time had been wasted, he wisely aborted his attempt. Look at that graph for the simple-math answer-the more climbers, the more deaths. The incredible lines and bottlenecks didn't exist 30 years ago.
The fact she made it to the top shows how unskilled the entire climb is. Anyone can climb it ...the Sherpas haul your gear, lay the ropes, show u where to step, you just walk up the mountain being guided. " I climbed mt everest" no you didn't, you hiked up it. Theres no romance or triumph in getting to the summit.
I know, like let’s see them all lay the ropes, ladders over the crevasses, etc. Then they might deserve some respect.
The real adventure and test of human endurance is climbing back down.
really.....have you checked the death ratio to attempts? perhaps you should walk up it....stupid response
If you "hiked" up everest I guess you wouldn't feel accomplished. Bs lol
well you can’t make that conclusion by judging one single person not considering thousands of others making it only to Advanced Base Camp on South Col. (Camp 2)
She wanted to find herself at the summit, but I think donating those $50k to a charity would be much more impressive than being carried to the summit of Everest.
Foolish and selfish
They said she stole the money she raised for charity
Yep!! I think it should be donated directly to people in need rather than to charities, who typically aren't transparent about where the money is going. But it sounds like she lied about raising the money for charity, which is horrible.
A huge percentage of the money donated “to charity” just ends up paying the bloated salaries of bureaucrats. There are better ways to spend it
Anyone who's hiked even a small hill knows that coming down is always more treacherous than going up. Exhaustion and complacency can be deadly.
Absolutely. If it takes everything you've got to get to the top then you are in a lot of trouble.
Indeed. At least with climbing your have more control.
I have always found the opposite, I can usually descend in about half the time as the ascent. That said my experience is hiking rather than mountaineering.
You're referring to the increased risk of faling down and twisting or breaking an ankle as you descend. That's not the issue with Everest. The countdown clock to your death starts after you reach a certain altitude. You have a limited amount of time to get to the top and back down before you die.
That's the opposite for me 😭 In my parent's childhood home, there is a river downhill. I am out of shape, but the descent is really easy. I am even skipping and stuff 😭
It was the ascent back that is hard, I have to literally crawl my way up because it was slippery 😭 Lately I am not even attempting to go to the river anymore because of that lol 😭
The level of selfishness required to put yourself in that position where you were entirely unprepared, ill-equipped, and willfully ignorant about the process, and to then expect everyone else to save your ass while putting their own in jeopardy is absolutely astronomical.
It is absolute insanity that unqualified, inexperienced individuals are even allowed on the mountain. They risk as you state not only their own lives but those of their sherpa guides who let's face it drag their unqualified clients up & down the mountain. This is so wrong! Thank you for your excellent content. Really enjoy your respectful informative commentary.
anything for the almighty dollar-money talks
Look the Sherpas just left her there....they didn't have any problems about prioritising their own safety
Having grown up just below timberline ( that line where trees cannot grow due to altitude) in the Rocky Mountains (60's, 70's) I have truly mourned and become horrified through the years watching the glory of nature be perverted by money, ego, tourism. I've seen so many of my fondest memories of (at the time) mostly inaccessible realms of nature ruined by the elite or arrogant (movie stars and politicians are the culprits). From the Rocky Mountains, to Bryce Canyon, so much of the "old west" is now ruined or regulated. I always think of that old Joni Mitchell song, "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."
I am struggeling with that too. Ive been doing a lot of different activities and trips. Usually with guides as I find that the most rewarding. And I have been turned away for not having proof or certificates proving I am experienced enough. Ive got several certificates from known and well reputed courses and training facilities that I have either gotten on my own or as preparation. Such as kayak,horseriding and diving with logged hours for example. Why this isnt done for trips like this is bizarre.
@@colinluckens9591 Then they could have had 3 dead bodies instead of 1. There was no way for them to bring her down from that height alive.
Kudos to the group leader for leaving her, honestly. It's tragic but that's a difficult call to make and he acted in the best interest of the group. It must be awful to know you left someone there to die but it was his job to keep everyone else safe and he did what he had to do.
I mean... He didnt. He was 100% clear and that she didn't even tell her husband shows, that she knew.
He tried to save her, but she was to arrogant to listen to a guide that has been doing this for a few years already and knows how it works.
Exactly, she was utterly selfish. She had done no real training, refused to listen to anyone, was taking other people's oxygen and expected Sherpas to carry her down. She didn't care who she traumatised or if she caused the death of others.
The climbing group leder should never have taken her on, due to her almost total lack of climbing experience. Then a responsible group leader would have turned her back while they were training at base camp... she was obviously having trouble. The big Everest climbing guide companies have tough rules for a reason. She had found a small, local less expensive guide company. Nome of the big ones would take her, for obvious reasons.
Imagine her ego had she made it down successfully.
Well if her ego hadn't been so big she'd be alive
every time she sat down she stopped everyone behind her.
great.
Right.....
9:38 as someone with no climbing experience whatsoever, I appreciate this sort of explainer of pace, as obvious as it likely seems to people who do climb. It closes that little loop in my head that wondered why exactly that stretch would take 10-12 hours. Thank you!
Thanks! That's why I try to explain most things, most of my viewers aren't hardcore climbers.
"I spent my money, I'm going to reach the summit" is an amazing motivational slogan. They should put it on T-shirts and give everyone who goes to Everest one to wear
It's a death sentence to those people who feel entitled to reach the summit.
Put that on a motivational poster with her last pic “
DETERMINATION
_I spent my money and I’m going to summit_
To be fair - she actually did end up achieving her goal, which was to reach the summit. But the ultimate cost of her perilous trek - which was her very life - turned out to be quite a bit steeper (no pun intended), than the substantial amounts of money she had to dish out.
*sell one to everyone that goes
it's sad.. she didn't consider in that moment her life was worth more..
Can't imagine the frustration of waiting in that line, feeling your energy sap away minute by minute, knowing there's some unqualified person up there whining and holding everybody back.
Exactly. I am one of those person who like to do things fast and effective manner and if I have to wait for somebody to move I feel I'm burning fuel for nothing. I couldn't climb the Everest ever, not because of the mountain but because of the people.
I’m surprised she was allowed to stay at the summit for 30 minutes: I understand that every climber would want to stay up there longer but 30 minutes in the death zone, with scores of people waiting for you to get down so that they can get up there- that’s so selfish. Leaving 20 minutes earlier might have been enough to get her out of the death zone and saved her life.
@@mindrolling24I was shocked at that part too! I had seen other videos and I knew that the toughest part is coming down and she wasted so much time when she needed to beat the weather, have less oxygen, be tired as hell, and she tested it like a sight seeing experience.
I do wonder if anyone died because she caused them to be delayed being able to go back down.
That long line alone should be enough to persuade any sensible mountaineer that climbing Everest has gone to shit. The only reasonable thing to do is cross it off your list.
I don’t feel sympathy for people being frustrated. They paid for this.
If a leader says, "Hey, my man, you will die if you try to climb this."
I am going to trust his judgement and respect it. Some people are too stubborn for their own good
Well people who would listen are smart enough not to be on the mountain to begin with. Or take it serious enough to train much more and be ready to climb.
Not only "she will die" but "you'll kill us all!" Unbelievable someone would continue after hearing you could not only kill yourself but others...the hubris of this woman is unbelievable!
The company gladly took her money.
@@renerocha6334 so what?
@renerocha6334 That's what companies do... what's your point?
It’s crazy that there are traffic jams on Mt Everest. Our world is insane.
Just bought a bicycle and starting slow by riding around the neighborhood. It's important to know your limits.
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Not buying one today then register for tour de france tommorow🤣
I appreciate that this is said with a light touch, but it is fundamentally the issue here - you've nailed it.
Why would you do that??? If you have the will like Shira, you can race the tour de France,just pay the race fee and a hire a coach !!!
No, you should join the tour de france straight away...that's the ill spirit these days
I'm stunned to see hundreds of people standing in line on the way to the summit. It's like waiting for an amusement ride at Disney World.
Actually, the lines at Disney seem to be much shorter these days
It's a very sad sight.
I heard Disney world is nearly as expensive to visit.
@@vinnynj78the problem with Disney World is that it’s in Florida, and nobody wants, or should want to go to Florida.
As a relatively experienced mountaineer (I live in the Alps) the pictures of Mount Everest are just so shocking, the best thing about climbing (IMO) is the solitude and connection with nature, It seems like that aspect is just lost there. Also everyone who's actually had experience in mountaineering can attest, that It docent really matter which summit you pick because the feeling is always amazing (gets better with the physical challenge of course but it does not have to be Everest is what I'm trying to say)
Yes! I’m not even a mountain climber, but what’s great about nature is exactly the solitude! A place for just your thoughts. It’s a spiritual experience that most people don’t care about anymore
It looks like they are standing in line to ride a rollercoaster at an amusement park instead of climbing a mountain!
Isn't the climbing experience is better if you are not in the death zone and your brain got enough oxigen?
I am committed to being the first American to summit Everest whose first name starts with a J, was born on a Sunday in June of ‘89, while wearing a tuxedo, clown shoes, and a monocle. I am going to break barriers for soo many people who can relate to my exact circumstances.
Thank you🤟
Not if I do it first
Don't forget the jester hat. 😂
You gotta make sure you have the monocle dude- an American with a J name who was born on a Sunday in June of ‘89 while wearing a tuxedo and clown shoes has already climbed Everest 🤷🏻♀️
The best comment of my day on TH-cam. Thank-you. 😎
I put more effort into my preparation to climb Mount Adams in Washington state than this women did to climb Everest.. the loss of life is sad but it’s also a warning to others that being determined is not enough in life.
How as it? I'm thinking about trying, we did Rainer last year.
Had a friend who started with Mount Adams, then moved up to The Matterhorn, then Mount Kilimanjaro, before finally moving on to Mount Everest.
I’m not going to try to compete at elite level in epee. I’m not 6’ with long arms. Sometimes it’s something else that best suits a person. Determination doesn’t change physical reality. Nor magically imbue someone with years of training and years of experience in different conditions. Often an experienced person is observing and processing many small & subtle things in their environment in a fraction of second, all going into their decision making, many things that an inexperienced person isn’t even aware of.
@@sorbabaric1 Maybe she had just watched the recent live action version of Disney's 'Mulan' and identified a bit too strongly with the 'Asian female protagonist'.
@@rigelb9025 Mulan went through a training montage where, by the end, she was at the front of the pack not still lagging behind it.
Shriya knew others would feel inclined to risk their lives to save hers if something went wrong. She counted on it. It's sick.
Some say ego and other day Narcism
Obviously, that didn’t happen. I believe she is now a permanent fixture on that infamous mountain.
She didn’t “know,” she “thought.”
Any caring and honorable person would “Think “ others would help their fellow human being. But, at the end of the day these are egotistical fools daring to go where they aren’t meant to be. Only locals belong there. You don’t get my respect unless you go without oxygen, and without Sherpas. And even then I think it’s foolish and prideful.
@@kaze_cat she knew. That's what normal human instinct is. Empathy.
I grew up at 10000 feet, and I have summited numerous mountains. No matter how prepared you think you are, you are only as strong as your body is. And most of all, you cannot stop moving. The minute you stop to take a “small break” you are done for. I almost made the mistake of stopping waist deep in snow after I had gotten lost from the trail. If I had stopped for a break that day I’d be frozen in the white forest.
I've spent my entire life in the Canadian Prairies, went to Utah several years ago and could barely even handle being 5000 feet higher than usual. My mom and I just felt really weird the whole time. I can't imagine trying to climb a mountain without properly training.
Scary 😳
This is a very good thing to remember. I'm not planning on climbing mountains or going to the snow, it hardly snows in some regions in my country, but it's still a good survival tip to remember, thanks. I'm so glad you're here with us and share your experience.
So your clothes were not warm enough
@@snorttroll4379 it doesn’t matter how warm your clothes are. I was plenty warm, it’s more that no matter what if you stop generating heat and blood flow you will succumb to hypothermia.
The narration, backdrop, video clips and views of Everest and surrounding peaks made this exceptional viewing for me, even though I was already familiar with Shariya’s story. How she traversed the Khumbu icefall is beyond me. Great content!
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it!
I had 2 classmates of mine die at a treacherous mountain in Peru. They were only 21 and 23. They were athletic and thought of themselves as "experienced climbers" . But they had no guide with them and only made it half way up when they disappeared. 8 days later a rescue group found their bodies in a 100 ft crevasse . They think an avalanche happened or they both fell into it. So tragic. But when you're that young. You think you're invincible and smarter than you actually are.
was it Huascaran? just curious
Past a certain altitude, your experience doesn't matter. Only your luck does.
In defense, you can die, slipping in the shower. Also, we all die, eventually.
To her credit she did surprisingly train for 2 years
Sometimes I think about the unnecessary risks me and friends took outside when we were in our teens and early twenties. Makes my skin crawl. You just don't properly get that risk is real and can affect you.
There was a veteran climber who had made the summit several times before doing so became so "trendy". He basically said (and I'm paraphrasing here) that the only truly remarkable thing someone could do on Everest nowadays is to essentially make the summit alone and never tell a soul. In other words you would forfeit all notoriety, bragging rights and make the climb for yourself and the experience alone and nothing else.
I think a big problem, aside from lack of experience, is that a lot of these people are so hyper focused on getting to the summit, they are forgetting they still have to go back down. Once they reach the summit and realize this, they are already too physically drained to make it down.
I climbed a much smaller mountain this year, and had to back out and get back to base due to a friends elevation sickness. Let me tell you, I wasn't prepared for how long it took to get back down. The paths were much less steep, more winding and serpentine, we started demounting at 2 AM and arrived at base way past sunrise. It would've taken us two more hours to get to the summit. Now, as I said, that mountain, the Fujiyama, is very safe and not that high, it would've taken a lot of effort to die on it, so we were fine. But that's exactly why climbing smaller mountains before tackling something like the Everest is important.
And the adrenaline rush is ebbing after reaching the summit. So they are exhausted, the body struggles to function in the Death Zone--but they need energy & alertness to make it back down safely.
It is a recipe for disaster if ALL you focus on is the ascent.
Most people die on the way down....
Exactly
Theres a saying in aviation that kills pilots its called Get there Itis which means pilots are so focused to land a plane even when it isnt safe to do so, for weather or w.e that instead of an alternate airport they kill themselves trying
There's fine line between determination and life-ending stubbornness.
This whole "the first this and that" is getting ever more ridiculous. Soon it will be "the first left-handed Asian 24 yr old woman from New Zealand with 5 kids and 3 degrees who likes dolphins and has met Kevin Bacon once to summit Mt. Everest".
So true! I was reading an article that said just that ‘all the firsts are pretty much gone on Everest”
Right. First Asian woman from Canada? Who cares. Hundreds of Asians and Asian women have summited. Is being a Canadian citizen meant to be some kind of major life handicap?
Lol
Yeah- notice how none of the dead people are from Aotearoa? We aren't like that here- people like that woman get schooled before it gets out of hand. If she started fundraising here for her holiday to Everest 😒😬 no- we would eat her... and it turns out that little bit of humanity, and humbleness that gets beaten into you in our country that doesn't in the places like the USA & Canada, actually saves lives... breeding 5 kids anyway- Jesus- we don't need more fuckers doing that kind of reckless, shelfish shit in our country anyway... again- people can go be over-consumptive climate deniers in Canada or USA or Britain or something... stay away from Aotearoa, we already have enough stupid & selfish & disgusting people trying to move here.
Haha thats exactly what I was thinking
She literary is a prime example of the saying: „haughtiness comes before the fall“. She was so caught up in her self delusion that having second thoughts or even terminating the climb was no option. It’s sad to see how a person carelessly not only risks her life but rather dies than to be sensible…for what? To bathe in some fancied glory?
This is where you have to listen to your husband. I had to stop my wife a few times from doing something that would have killed her. She later thanked me.
Yes, I agree. She was so arrogant and self-important that she caused herself and others to die.
Hey, but they took the money!
for the likes and the followers
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Her determination was fueled solely by her desire to reach the summit. Once she achieved that goal, she didn't have anything left to make it back down. She had essentially burned the entire candle of her life just to make it to the top.
Absolutely.
I knew climbing Everest was challenging but didn’t completely understand it until I saw this video. You explained this brilliantly. Thank you
Stay tuned for my next video where I break it down into more detail. It's really interesting and fascinating stuff!
I’ve never been as thankful for not being strongwilled. I’d get to base camp, get cold and tired and think “what a beautiful place, it is worth some discomfort and hard work. To a limit. Let’s go home.”
Visiting a stress free country like the uk for a few weeks is enough for me. I’m not physically or medically strong due to no fault of my own, and I know my limitations. I never like to slow others down or make them responsible for my care. Hubs and I do our own thing. 😊
you would get to basecamp?
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The saddest thing about this death is how extremely avoidable it would have been with more preparation. The fact that she was still able to get so far with so little experience just shows that she could have completed the climb successfully if she trained properly. She didn’t even need to be talked out of it, just better preparation.
And who had to pay for the rescue team to go up there? The family?
Recovery team, nobody to rescue.
Ummm…do you climb or know anything about climbing? Or just assuming you know?
And “properly trained” means “spend 7k to fly home, forfeiting the 40k you just paid, then practice hours per day for 2 years, then repay our 50k fee plus another 20k in airfare, travel, gear, etc? That isn’t bad advice, but how many would do that? Less than 1 in 100 is my guess.
@Itried20takennames well.. you know.. usually people would train properly before they paid the money and showed up..
This chick went on a couple hikes and hit a climbing wall. Lmao.
@@Itried20takennamesI would expect someone, who wanted to climb Everest, to have at least climbed half a dozen other mountains maybe in the Alps, the Andes or the Rocky Mountains, including some glaciers.
Imagine if she has succeeded, her story would probably become a great inspirational story that would bring more deaths to Everest. Unfortunately we just don’t make enough movies to warn people about the danger of having unusual level of “determination” and “dedication”.
I don't feel bad for her. Her "determination" got herself killed.
So true.
Her goal was to summit Everest. She did. But she died because she spent too long in the death zone when she should've turned back many hours before she continued to the top. She was already dying well before she summited.
@@jaxsazerac4904your lack of empathy for human life doesn’t make you better person. What she did was wrong but she is still human
Survivor bias
I had read this girls story. Onr thing not mentioned here that was in this story was that Shriya believed that because she was Napalean (?) she had the genes to climb up Everest successfully. It turned out that genes plus no experience was not a good recipe to do the climb..A few human groups like dwellers of the Tibetan plateau and Andes mountains have developed a few better adaptations to elevation; but experience is needed on Everest. There should be a requirement that climbing experience and proficiency must be demonstrated and witnessed before being allowed to climb Everest
There's something that many people don't realize going up there. If one gets into trouble it's a slim chance they'll be saved. The other expedition members are already doing all they can just to keep _themselves_ alive.
Anyone attempting Everest is aware of this. It's very common knowledge. But desperation will make people do strange things.
The guys we went with you had to have experience with them, or show a resume with refrences and literally tryout. They declined more people than they brought. When we got there it became very clear not everyone there had been similarly vetted. That was really one of the scariest part of the whole thing, we might have our lives put at risk by people like this chick. It's unbelievable that a guide would take someone with zero alpine climbing experience.
Thanks for sharing, I think people forget about the experienced folks who train hard to take it on.
@@adventuresgonewrongthanks, great video!
She reached the summit, so she clearly did have the required minimal technical skills by the point of the climb... what she ended up not having enough of is stamina... also she might have had no experience to tell her what her condition was, but that happens even to seasoned climbers with a drive...
@@stanislavkostarnov2157 Well there you go. She barely possessed the strict minimal requirements to make it to the top, while having to be 'carried' heavily by her team, and slowing everybody else down. But once she finally reached it, which as you say, was 'the point' of her climb, she had forgotten to factor in another major component : GETTING BACK DOWN. So the way I see it, she was either completely blinded by her own hubris, or she just happened to have a very expensive & adventurous death kink.
I can’t even imagine what that was like. I am not a climber, but when a group of us turned 50, we did a live aboard dive trip to the Galápagos Islands. The dive masters wouldn’t allow anyone with less than 70 dives and a thorough checkout dive, and we still had to rescue a few who got bashed against the rocks. The idea of possibly dying because of someone else’s hubris is appalling.
I have the same level of Mountaineering experience as she did (0), and found hiking up Arthurs Seat in Edinburgh a challenge. The fact they even let her start a summit attempt baffles me.
It's her life, she knew the risks. It really shouldn't be the burden of society to stop the process of natural selection.
@@greyfells2829 it's not just the person's life, though, in a lot of these cases.
One of my college professors went missing on Everest a few years ago. Many people risked their lives searching for him. Eventually, they found his body which was impossible to retrieve without putting people in more danger, so his body is still there. He was an experienced and avid climber, but he still died on the way down
Also, the popularity of Everest now means that there are queues on the mountain to get to the top, most dangerously within the Death Zone itself. People spend hours sitting around in very low oxygen. Idiots and noobs like Shriya are making the mountain far more dangerous for those who actually put the work in and have the ability to get to the top
Not to mention the guides and Sherpas, many of whom are sort of forced to work in Everest-tourism, because it's one of the only opportunities for employment in that region of the world. Again, idiots are putting their lives at risk as well as their own
They do not have qualifications, if you can afford it then off you go! You can argue it is not just the climbers who are irresponsible, but the places that put together these expeditions. You should have a successful 8000 meter ascend before even being considered to go, sadly all you do is come up with the money and there you go, you are a sudden "climber" ready to ascend to a jetliner cruising altitude on a 29,000 foot mountain!
@@greyfells2829 Sure it's her life but she could've at least gain some level of experience. My brother and my sister love to climb mountains but they prepared by starting small and not get too ambitious the first time. They were able to ascent several mountains gradually and two years ago have successfully climbed Mt Kinabalu. They were planning to go climb Mt Kilimanjaro but Covid hit so they postponed that. My brother plans to climb Mt Fuji in the future. Experience can matter. If I was the owner of the guiding company, I would flat out refuse her.
@@greyfells2829 but the problem is, that she not only put her own life at risk, but also those of the people who were with her.
The photos of the hundreds of people on Everest is unbelievable
These stories always cause me to reflect. As a young man I was a pretty active climber and bagged a dozen peaks, the Grand Canyon, and many challenging ascents but nothing above 16,000'. I know first hand how challenging a 20 hour ascent can be and would never attempt Everest. The risk/benefit is simply too high. So many folks with zero experience seem to think Everest is a Disneyland ride or something. It is heart-breaking to watch and I expect it will continue.
I love hiking Adirondack high peaks in the winter, hiking Mt Katahdin Knife Edge etc...and I have no interest in climbing Mt Everest. Maybe it’s our experience that gives us the humility that some of these inexperienced “adventurers” don’t have.
Yes, exactly. They get an idea in their head, but they don't have years of hard work under their belts that would give them the awareness of the difficulties involved.@@stellashepherd3229
That's pretty much the gist of it, lack of experience. There is absolutely zero replacement for it, no matter what field or topic.
The internet - especially social media - is completely overrun by the peanut gallery who love to claim knowledge they do not possess, while selling each other on so-called "feel good encouragement".. Harkens back to debate and critical reasoning classes that ask you to provide and explain examples of when positives become negatives and vice versa - apparently a thought process rarely taught, or grasped. That same media has distorted so much of reality, hyping pretty pictures, etc., to make everything look like a video game or amusement park ride.
That said, what restrictions can be put on whom and by whom and for what reasons? People die in all manner of mild pursuits every single day, yet they normally garner sympathy in one form or another.
Disney actually has an Everest ride too 🤦♀️😮💨
In my experience, its the perfect slice of thrill and adventure for these wannabes. They even have a Yeti to keep you on your toes! 😂
Im sorry but the owner leaving her was on her. She'd been warned by pros not to continue but she did. He can hardly be expected to commit suicide with her
The notion that reaching Everest's summit would 'complete something in her' is ludicrous.
100% agree with you he should throw away his life because her ego.
Agree 💯 with this comment . Absolutely hypocritical of Russel Bryce to condemn him . Why should the owner risk his own life when he had given her the right advise but she refused to comply .
Limit the amount of people who can climb. Don't allow inexperienced people to climb who put others at risk and cause them to die. Madness
That is much overdue!
There is no incentive to do this unfortunately, quite the opposite in fact.
the permit is 11k usd so yeah, why limit the suckers
The country makes good money selling permits to climb, unfortunately. However in the end, it's up to the climber to know if they can make it or not.
Agree but. 1. Nepal is a poorer country, 2. Permits and fees from climbing generate a lot of money in Nepal, and reducing permits to only the best climbers would cost Nepal significant income and the loss of many jobs.
Should still be done, but those are jobs and money that Nepal would not have a replacement for currently.
And even limiting climbers would not make it “safe” …you could only allow the top world climbers and you would still have deaths due to falling ice, other falls, HAPE/HACE (which are more common in older climbers, but can and do happen out of the blue in strong, young climbers, even Sherpas guides), sudden storms trapping people above camp 4, etc.
If the goal is safety, then no one should climb any mountain…it isn’t safe.
I came here after the death of Cheruiyot Kirui, a Kenyan who died on Mt Everest on 22.05.2024. May his soul rest in eternal peace.
Its hard to feel deep compassion for someone that ignores danger to this extent and then pays the ultimate price.
Nature doesn’t forgive the careless.
I read (several times) the book “Into Thin Air” by John Krakauer about the 1996 Everest disaster in which 8 people died. It’s a fascinating story about the climbers and their own reasons for climbing despite the dangers inherent in the sport. The single mindedness of some of these climbers is so selfish and it’s hard to muster any sympathy for them. 🇨🇦
Love that book, the 1996 disaster is what really piqued my interest in Everest.
Especially that filmmaker socialite, Sandra Hill Pittman. What a narcissist.
I think the issue is that for any extreme sport (which when we are talking about mountains over a certain height I would argue mountaineering certainly becomes) a combination of both sheer bloody minded stubbornness in the face of very real risk AND being extremely aware of your own limitations and safety concerns is required. You have to be that single minded or you'd never attempt the sport in the first place, but the moment that overtakes the other side of the scale people get hurt.
Now for most extreme sports that results in a dislocated shoulder or a broken bone (in my case a femur while kayaking), a deep cut, some missing teeth etc, a badly bruised ego and a learning experience...and it tends to only needs to happen once for whatever lesson you needed to learn to really hammer itself home (again in my case its that trying to power through fatigue is a recipe for poor decision making in an environment where you cant afford it, even if its well within your abilities). But on a mountain as dangerous as Everest there is no learning experience as generally the mountain is going to kill you when it all goes wrong
I have no sympathy for people who take risks for excitement and adventure. I've done these things myself (though nowhere near as extreme as climbing Everest) in years gone by but only on my own cognisance. If you're sane, then you take full responsibility for your actions.
Imho people should be forced to read this book before being allowed to climb Everest. Apparently there's too many people who think it's a walk in the park. That environment is as hostile as can be.
That owner really did the right thing. Adults are adults because they are old enough to take responsibility for themselves. She had been absolutely clearly warned of the consequences of her decisions.
No, he was a scammer. Not refunding canceled trips that HE canceled, then letting her go anyway? He is a weak coward
He should never have taken her on or let her go in the first place. He was just there to take the money of naive people based on how things appeared.
@R2Bl3nd I'm 100% sure all the clients are taken to realize very well what the challenges the climb entails. They also sign some form of consent confirming they realize what the dangers are and taking the responsibility for their actions.
If she signed it without reading it's her own fault.
She was a narcissistic fool and the guiding company is not to blame for that.
@@abuzarov , I agree with you. Whether you reach the top or not, all the people and equipment used to get you to that point need to be paid for. Also the no refunds are for the person that makes it to the last base camp and then gets to sick to climb, sorry but it took two weeks of porters, sherpas, and supplies just to get you to the first base camp. Than more people to get you to the next and so on.
This is not a ticket to a theater show, this is a life threatening, physically, and mentally challenging experience. You don't get your money back for a theater ticket after the curtain goes up, same thing with this climb.
@@NadiaSeesItA different large tour operator canceled all his clients. He has an excellent safety record. All the big companies have clear no-refund policies, for having to turn around due to sickness, weather, safety, etc. The company she was with was a pretty irresponsible small local company. None of the big reputable companies would take her, and they cost a lot more $$$.
The first south Asian woman from Canada to climb Everest. I like how many qualifiers they needed to make her special 😂 and she still failed.
Well, she did reach the summit... she just never made it down... so, does that mean she broke the record?
@@fgdj2000yeah. For the richest woman to fall into a debt crevice while attempting to raise Mt Everest
@@fgdj2000I believe it was Sir Edmund Hillary who said it only counts if you make it back down alive. Which is a good standard, or more people would push for only the summit. You literally have to remind these people to survive 🙄 they care too little.
Girl boss gets hit with reality
@@rschmidt93 Haha lol😂😂.
Ive been climbing for over 40yrs. Ive got a lot of great friends who are into the alpine stuff. They've tried to get me on to numerous mountains with them.
I once asked one of them (hes topped out all the highest and hardest peaks) to put in layman's terms what it's like. He thought for a while and said " get dressed in heaps of puffy gear, wrap a scarf around your face , put on a twenty kg pack and go walk up and down the fire stairs of the tallest skyscraper you can find until you can barely move your legs and then keep going up and down the stairs at least another ten times and you will have a slight taste of what it's like". He convinced me to stck with the rock climbing.😂
That’s good enough for me to know I couldn’t do it.
When I did a much less challenging hike I trained with weights in my backpack on the treadmill and stair machine. I still had trouble just hiking because I’m a flatlander. This was my most difficult hike. I didn’t complete the hike despite the fact I’d just retired from college rugby.
I had my first successful mountaineering trip in the weekend, I'd agree about the concept of hitting your limit then having to keep going. There's often nowhere to rest tired and cramping muscles. It's the first time I've done something where I feel like I need validation from others to justify the risk and effort, it clearly doesn't add up while I still have a wife and kids to look after.
He's fairly accurate there! I've only done some of the easier 14000ft peaks in the French / Italian Alps, and even on those, it's VERY noticable as you get higher that oxygen is in shorter supply than at sea level. Food packages swell up with the lower air pressure, and even walking up a gentle slope becomes a challenge. There is CONSTANT time pressure because as the day goes along, it gets warmer, so stone fall is more likely. The ONLY pleasant part of an Alpine experience is the view, and the end of the experience! Compared to rock climbing in the UK, the dangers are magnified 10X at least. Avalanches, rock falls, and issues created by 'moving together' over steep ground at higher altitude......Once you get to the 'Greater Ranges (Himalayas, Karakoram etc.) the dangers are HUGE. Blocks of ice the size of houses tumbling down the mountain, Crevasses HUNDREDS of feet deep, 100+MPH winds and temperatures far far below freezing. The word 'uncomfortable' doesn't even start to cover it, and 'misery' is only part way. IF you are a massochist, with olympic athlete levels of fitness, who doesn't give a shit about your own life, and the lives of your companions, then the Himalayan Mountains are for you! Otherwise.....Stick with rock climbing, same as I did (After a bit of a play in the Alps).
Well, I don't mind saying rock climbing is plenty scary enough, at least for some of us, with your life hanging upside down by a finger or two. I'll take that skyscraper with those nice stairs, perhaps even throw caution to the wind and not hold the railing. Not that I won't be going back country skiing, but 30-40 deg slope (at 12k elevation) is quite enough, thank you.
Spending 30 minutes on the summit when you're already running late? Madness
Just insanity!
You can’t save everyone, and some people put themselves so deep in danger they will easily kill entire teams. To give in to your own emotions in a risky situation is extremely selfish. This is sad, I hope people learn from this.
Once you’re in death zone you know it’s each for his own. It can be cruel but it’s a reality.
Indeed. Nothing worthy of glory in selfishly risking other people's lives for your own inflated ego.
@@hasslfoot It just looks like that whole entire process, from signing the check to perishing at the summit - assuming you even make it (as somehow, she managed to do) has become a bit too easy. And cheaply done. Just cutting every single corner until there's nothing left.
Terrific Narration and reporting. Thank you, this was very interesting
I walked in 1991 from Jiri to Mount Everest Basecamp, this was a beautiful hike and quite challenging because of the weather and the altitude. Despite resting days (as recommended) I started to suffer from altitude sickness which was so annoying (and painful) that I decided to return - one day before reaching the Basecamp. Going down went so much quicker and I immediately felt better. I was young and fit, and well trained, but not that eager to reach the Basecamp that I wanted to suffer for it. Cannot imagine this woman going so far and I think it is a shame for all the serious mounteneers that are actually able to do this and survive.
Anyone can get altitude sickness. Young, old, fit, out of shape. It can hit one time and not the next. Most people who die from this are young and fit because they ignore the symptoms...and death is close behind.
Are you really asian
Good for you. You gave it a good try and were smart enough to realize your limits. Smart cookie. You're still here. Smart. God bless.
I believe most people are at their most vulnerable coming down the mountain after summitting, from everything I’ve watched. I’m a bit obsessed with the people that climb Everest as I think it’s weird that people are still doing this after it’s been done. But I would love to go to basecamp only and check it out. Good for you for having a goal of basecamp! I think more people should just be happy with that goal.
Looking at her "training" efforts, she seems to have taken this whole expedition almost literally "a walk in the park"
She would probably be good for a class 3 14er.
I love stories of mountaineering. Both successful and tragic. In the last few years I've stopped watching or reading about Everest expeditions because it always the same old commentary. Because I have come to enjoy your style of storytelling I decided to break that trend. No regrets. This was your typical informative and interesting narrative and I enjoyed it immensely. When I watch you I never seems like you're trying to tell me how I should feel about the story. Thanks so much.
Wow what a compliment! I love mountaineering stories too and have avoided them because I thought they were overdone. But I couldn’t stay away haha! I totally get the obsession to summit the tallest mountain in the world and wanted to share Shriya’s story. Thx for giving it a chance!
@mfsperring Well said! I feel the same way!
Agreed 💯
Thanks for this. Very interesting. Not something I would or could ever physically do. But I do enjoy vicariously experiencing the adventure through others. So very sad for all those families who have lost loved ones up there. 😢
One of the best preparatory exercises for an Everest attempt is standing in the queue for Taylor Swift tickets. The ability to stand in line for untold hours without any sense of the line moving is more important than altitude training, climbing practice or basic physical fitness. Those who ignore the Taylor Swift ticket line exercises do so at the risk of their very lives
That's good! 😀
Who's Taylor Smith? Skiff? Whiff?
I climbed mount everest way back on the 2000s. I had to train my cardio and body for half a year. Get everything prepared from the smallest equipment to the largest. Got me in contact with the climbing tour company. It was a hard climb and im glad i was able to reach the top ok. My heart goes for those who had lost their lives there. May they rest in peace. ❤
I was humbled by hiking a small ridge in Denali this summer, got altitude sickness I think and I knew if I kept going I wouldn't be able to get down on my own. so i sat down and rested while my dad went the rest of the way up the ridge since we weren't far. The only reason i didn't need help off that ridge was I knew i had hit my limit and didn't keep going to the top. I needed It was eye opening. It showed me how much training I'll need if I wanna get serious about mountaineering, and I was on a small hill next to the road not far from a ranger checkpoint. I can't imagine making that miscalculation on everest
I respect mountaineers and their dedication. I just am not one of those people that look at a mountain and try to figure out the way to the top. I look at it and know that it is beautiful and it can stay where it is and I can stay where I am and the both of us are better for it.
My first trek to the Everest Base camp in 2012 I trained for a solid 9 months to be in the best shape possible. By the time I got to Gorak Shep I was shattered. I wasn't sick, but we all had this nagging cough, and the lack of oxygen made even climbing a few steps an ordeal. I marvel at those that continues on after reaching Basecamp onto Mt Everest. Definitely not for those who are not prepared, or lack in conditioning.
Yeah, she made it to the top, and its portrayed like anyone with money can do it. She accomplished something pretty amazing, despite the outcome. I don't know her whole story, but she had to have been in tremendous physical shape. This video makes it seem like she just jumped off the couch and said lets go.
@@Ryan-jp3mh I don't think she trained properly...the hills in Ontario may be good for some training but even her cousin said she was lazy and wouldn't walk any place. I don't think she trained properly at all...and it showed as she was the slowest and weakest link there.
The worst part about this is that she was right-she made it with sheer determination. And it killed her.
lol what video did you watch? She failed miserably....amazes me that people think climbing to the top is all it takes...you are only half way to finishing...you still need to get OFF the mountain...this is a clear sign of ego...only getting to the top where people take selfies...you still have to have energy to get back down but your precious little ego doesnt want to take that into consideration
@@damianplasencia2708 Okay…..
Delusion and determination are completely different. She seemed to be under the impression that if she ever collapsed AFTER she reached the summit, she would be saved by the sherpas she paid thousands to. Her determination was to reach the top, but everyone knew and told her she would not be able to go up and come down. Her determination was blinded by delusion.
@@BlueDuck.-definitely a delusion- she got told repeatedly she could die and to not go, yet she expected others to endanger themselves to save her.
It's not some kind of adventure movie.
Hubris and enthusiasm are poor replacements for experience and wisdom. Simply being determined is not enough, and her arrogance in the face of the highest peak in the world is stunning.
I hate that toxic positivity you see these days. "You can do anything you set your mind to!"
Its fine if you take that idea to spend years learning and training for something. But not when you take shortcuts, thinking your "I can do it!" mentality is enough.
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Amazing. People have money and think that they can buy anything they want. Experience and knowledge is priceless.
The more I learn about Everest, the more I realize that the great feat isn't making the summit; it's making it back down again.
That's true of every big mountain on the planet. As every experienced mountaineer knows, the descent is the most dangerous part of the climb. Read Deep Survival by Laurence Gonzales for a peek into that issue.
I think it’s the crowds.
Everyone who died on Everest was a well motivated person
Everyone who died on Mount Everest , except the Sherpas who live there and are used to this sheer brutality of Nature , deserved his/ her fate!! Dumb foreigners who think money can buy them fame of whatever feeble sort of!
I guess when you die on that mountain, neither an epitaph nor a tombstone are required, for they are freely provided as a matter of fact.
@@rigelb9025motivated by their own egos. That energy could be directed toward something of use to more than a single individual.
Not everyone. Way too many are locals who die helping the climbers whose "motivation" turned their home into a boom town where the only decent paying jobs mean risking your life.
The reward is you've become the new landmark of Everest.
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0:19 … when the fire nation attacked
The photos of those hyper-crowded final ascent routes are absolutely *shocking*. I wish people would admit the top of Everest isn't a place humans belong, and leave her in peace.
Keep the summit tourists coming. Nepal needs the money. Charge double and fine the guide companies if they don't clean up after themselves. Currently the capacity is limited by the single fixed rope. The usual profiteers could establish a second fixed rope parallel to the existing one and charge extra to use the new express line.
That's the award make it to top and return home alive. Not all are able to do it. High price prize.
@@fuglbird problem is at the very top to my knowledge there is only one feasible way up to the summit, so it would just make two lines twice as short…
Exactly this! Leave Chomolungma alone, like the indigenous people did before these westerners started to colonise it and named her Mount Everest.
@@fuglbird do you know who puts those ropes up in the first place? And how do climbers know if those are new ropes or old?
Part of the experience necessary with any adventure sports is knowing when to quit and being ok with that... Even when you've spent so much money getting there.
Yep, I have more respect for those who admit defeat and turn around than those who summit and die.
Hiking and outdoor influencers hardly ever film themselves saying “this situation is too dangerous, I’m going to turn around and come back another day’. They may tell you something’s difficult and dangerous, but then they film themselves on top of a mountain, having barely broken a sweat. Some of their viewers may ask themselves “how bad can it really be”?
THAT is the problem.