I have always been captivated by Gospel drumming, but have felt intimidated. I always told myself that I would never be that good, so I played it safe. After stumbling on your channel, I feel very excited to try these exercises!!! I am impressed with your methods. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God Bless!!
I hear fills like this all the time and never could work out exactly what it was , and really wanted my fills to have that type of sound to it, gona practice this like mad! Awesome video your an amazing drummer!
Watched a ton of videos pertaining to gospel fills but yours is by far the most educational. More like giving a someone a fishing rod rather the fish. The end result is not only the chop, but the understanding to create gospel chops. In that was this lesson is unique and extremely practical. Thanks!
Took a concept I learned from Derek Roddy and applied it to triplets to help improve my double stroke. Turned out, it helped open a whole new door into my fills and sticking around the kit. Instead of 2 minutes of singles with alternating hands like Derek does, I did 1 minute per hand. One minute RLL RLL RLL... and then one minute LRR LRR LRR... After those 2 minutes I increased the tempo 10 BPM and did it over. I did this 5 times over, for a total of 10 minutes a day. Each day was a little faster. A little easier. Out of boredom I started to displace my notes around the kit. Worked so well I started changing the sticking. I added in LLR LLR LLR... and RRL RRL RRL... Also started doing it with my feet. Pretty soon I found it easy to maintain the feel around the kit, and I was able to swap single or double strokes on the kick whenever I wanted with ease. Kick speed and hand speed improved with singles and paradiddles as well. I am still improving daily and it has been a huge game changer.
ROB! I've been practicing some fills including the bass drum and that gospel type of fills. But this way of doing things really is that simple! Thanks a lot for the step by step concept! It really helps to be more free and creative, and not just learning licks and combos on youtube lessons. Great channel bro, thanks a lot!!!
Rob: Love your videos :) One thing that I use to explain to drummers when they ask about real fast licks and what exactly am I playing, is that I see it as Binary code. Instead of 0s and 1s, it´s 1s and 2s. Most of the times (as you say) playing fills/licks usualy is done using 1 or 2 strokes. So I feel the next progression from your excersice would be to write out some combinations of 1s and 2s and make the last beat end up on 1 (if the musical accent is there of course). Don´t have to be done in musical notation, just L, R, K to start. So 4 bars of 8th note triplets give you 12 beats (13 with the accent on 1 in the next bar) to split up into 1s and 2s. And then just go to 16 note triplets and do the same thing. It´s always easier to learn if you get things down on paper and get it visualized that way. I feel that this sometimes takes peolpe out of the thing where they just want to copy mine or other fills and start getting a set of their own fills.
Agreed you're a great teacher Rob! Each video I've seen has been straight down the line simple ways (or at least simply explained concepts) that actually work! Really enjoying your stuff! Thanks very much!
i gotta say im most jealous of the gospel drummer kids. they're amazing. i know i lose count of where the 1 is when i hear them do the triplet fills and i just theow up both my hands. this is a great way to break it down and get a good start. there's a few guys i live on youtube and rob is definitely one of my top faves. i really dig that he doesnt go on to long about things,is calm and gets to the giat of it. thanks bro keep on
Great video bro. Honestly, I've been trying to figure this out for years and you just made it so simple. Thanks for shattering my glass ceiling. Time to practice now.
Hey Rob, once I discovered where to play the hihat, especially when you start playing accents, it all became clear! Awesome stuff, Rob, and thanks a LOT! Greetings from Brussels, Belgium
Thanks for not just giving us the quick "how to play a nasty lick in under 30 seconds video" and instead taking the time to really thoroughly explain the concept!
If you notice on this video, which he explains in 15 minutes what I have been trying to learn for the last 15 years , is that he kind of stresses the word TASTEFULLY! Lol! Iv'e seen those young guys drop sticks, miss the one, freeze etc. playing at 100 mph. Yes I am one of the OG's . I choose not to hate on fast chops though and embrace them. I'm just gonna go one step slightly ahead of tasteful and maybe play using 16 ths. Love You Rob! you are a God send for a lot of us out here!
Great Drummer as I always said and great Drum teacher, thanks Rob :-) I got to take my courage and make a video I owe you : about the beat down brown with the six stroke roll, that u broke down for us man :-) I got it but I never made a vid of it ;-)
Thanks brotha no one has ever broken it down to me like that before. I will be able to create my own fills instead of spending weeks learning others drummers fills.
hey rob the ted reed syncopation book has a triplet section i am going to start with the triplets in that book it has many combinations of accents thanks
Mr. Brown, I really enjoyed the video. As someone who just started playing drums again, this information is really useful to me. I just became a subscriber. Do you have videos on building confidence and authority when playing? Thanks for your time.
Yes! very cool but i think you should have played a couple examples of the fills VERY SLOWLY to give us a better idea... Also when you are adding bass drum hits within a fill, are they played in between a snare or tom hit or is the bass drum hit played at the exact time you are hitting a tom or snare..? Id appreciate an answer. thank you
I haven't been able to figure out how the single paradiddle works well for applying triplets around the kit because it's a 4 note grouping instead of 3. Can anyone help with this?
eternallyminded7 some of the coolest stuff i seen in a book regarding paradiddles played in triplets was in the david garabaldi book future sounds, Now I aint going to pretend like I can rip it up like this gentlemen, but any 4 note style grouping can be felt in 3 as with any 3 note grouping felt in 4. play RLRR LRLL but count in triplets, it will take 3 times to come around before it resolves, then work through all the others the same way. Not sure if that helps
Three paradidles equal a measure of triplets. It's hard you have to play paradidles but count triplets out of them. For example the first beat will be rlrr and will be counted 1 trip let 2. Then the next paradidle starts the on the second triplet partial. So the next beat would lrll and counted trip let 3 trip. Then next one rlrr and counted let 4 trip let.... It takes three paradidles only to make one measure of triplets. Because there is 12 triplets in a measure and 12 notes in 3 paradidles. Hope this helps at all. Play slow and count it until eventually u feel it
Rob Crawford i been screaming "get to the point" in my head so many times watching videos. It's amazing how ppl talk atound a point they're trying to make. I guess it's something not everyone learns well enough.
+Natan Gonzalez There's a video on my channel called 'How To Improve Your Speed Around The Drums'. The exercises there will help build up your improvisation & endurance.
This is a great lesson. The problem i have is i lose the "1" easily when i'm playing and lose my place. Any tips on how to be able to play over the bar line without losing my place?
The hardest part about jumping over bar lines is feeling the 1/4 note pulse while playing accents. One good exercise is to just turn on a 1/4 note click and play a single paradiddle, but start it on a different 16th note subdivision in the bar. Do all three...first on the 'E', then on the 'AND' and on the 'AH'. You're basically taking a four beat phrase and shifting it around the bar. Practice pad first, then take it to the kit.
Hey question I'm pretty advanced drummer can do chops and Latin beats but I do a lot of single strokes my problem all these years is I can't do doubles stroke rolls on my left I tried practicing it in my head to capture the sound but it doesn't come out smooth my left had won't get it any tips
Here are some rudiments I practiced to get my left hand to a good level for double stroke (start slow). R L L - R L L - R L L - R L R - L R R - L R R - L R R - L R L (Repeat) Alternating six stroke roll (Counted as 16th notes) R L L R - R L R L - L R R L - R L L R - L R R L - L R L R - R L L R - L R R L (Repeat) These alternating exercises force your left hand to pull off the complex stuff the right hand is usually doing.
Larry Tate PHX with a 14x5.5 Sensitive Series snare, yea. I'm normally the first one to say that drums are drums, for the most part. Put a blindfold on me and I couldn't tell you the difference between a birch, maple, mahogany, bubinga or whatever shell. And don't really care. When a kit is tuned well, it's tuned well and any well tuned kit sounds great. HOWEVER...The first time played a PHX kit, I immediately noticed it was clearly the tightest, punchiest, fullest, sounding kit I've ever heard. Then I asked a friend to play my kit while I stood in front of it, and learned it was also the loudest. Given the design and precision, performance and the fact that not a single shell touches a factory line, I'd say PHX is the Bugatti of drum kits.
That's an 22x18 with an Evans EMAD Heavyweight on the batter side, and it's empty. I strongly recommend using a head with some sort of provided muffling on it so you can allow it to completely breathe on it's own. PHX kicks are the tightest on the planet and happiest with nothing in 'em.
Thanks a lot! I agree about using an EMAD. That's the feel I'm used to anyway on my current bass drum (which is also 22x18). Before going with the 22x18, did you try a PHX 22x16 and decide it was missing something? Last question, I promise.
Rob, why is it a gospel fill? Matthew Mark Luke and John ever play drums like that. In the old days we used to call it over playing. I'm just kidding. I understand.
I have always been captivated by Gospel drumming, but have felt intimidated. I always told myself that I would never be that good, so I played it safe. After stumbling on your channel, I feel very excited to try these exercises!!!
I am impressed with your methods. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God Bless!!
***** It's 16th note rudiments spread out on the limbs with poly rhythmic accents. There's a formula to it for sure.
I hear fills like this all the time and never could work out exactly what it was , and really wanted my fills to have that type of sound to it, gona practice this like mad! Awesome video your an amazing drummer!
You're just what the drum industry needs. Good stuff bud x
Watched a ton of videos pertaining to gospel fills but yours is by far the most educational. More like giving a someone a fishing rod rather the fish. The end result is not only the chop, but the understanding to create gospel chops. In that was this lesson is unique and extremely practical. Thanks!
finally someone on TH-cam who broke it down simple and not all technical thanks man
Another winner Rob. You explain stuff so well that it benefits drummers plain & simple, no matter the level
Took a concept I learned from Derek Roddy and applied it to triplets to help improve my double stroke. Turned out, it helped open a whole new door into my fills and sticking around the kit. Instead of 2 minutes of singles with alternating hands like Derek does, I did 1 minute per hand. One minute RLL RLL RLL... and then one minute LRR LRR LRR... After those 2 minutes I increased the tempo 10 BPM and did it over. I did this 5 times over, for a total of 10 minutes a day. Each day was a little faster. A little easier. Out of boredom I started to displace my notes around the kit. Worked so well I started changing the sticking. I added in LLR LLR LLR... and RRL RRL RRL... Also started doing it with my feet. Pretty soon I found it easy to maintain the feel around the kit, and I was able to swap single or double strokes on the kick whenever I wanted with ease. Kick speed and hand speed improved with singles and paradiddles as well. I am still improving daily and it has been a huge game changer.
Another great lesson. You broke it down and explained it like I was a 2 year old - perfect. I will be donating to the cause!
ROB! I've been practicing some fills including the bass drum and that gospel type of fills. But this way of doing things really is that simple!
Thanks a lot for the step by step concept! It really helps to be more free and creative, and not just learning licks and combos on youtube lessons.
Great channel bro, thanks a lot!!!
+Peter Atum Sweet, man. Thanks for watchin' :)
Cheers from Portugal ;)
Rob: Love your videos :)
One thing that I use to explain to drummers when they ask about real fast licks and what exactly am I playing, is that I see it as Binary code. Instead of 0s and 1s, it´s 1s and 2s.
Most of the times (as you say) playing fills/licks usualy is done using 1 or 2 strokes.
So I feel the next progression from your excersice would be to write out some combinations of 1s and 2s and make the last beat end up on 1 (if the musical accent is there of course). Don´t have to be done in musical notation, just L, R, K to start.
So 4 bars of 8th note triplets give you 12 beats (13 with the accent on 1 in the next bar) to split up into 1s and 2s.
And then just go to 16 note triplets and do the same thing.
It´s always easier to learn if you get things down on paper and get it visualized that way.
I feel that this sometimes takes peolpe out of the thing where they just want to copy mine or other fills and start getting a set of their own fills.
Agreed you're a great teacher Rob! Each video I've seen has been straight down the line simple ways (or at least simply explained concepts) that actually work! Really enjoying your stuff! Thanks very much!
Man you make everything look effortless. And I really loved how you broke it down on a practice pad! Great teacher!
i gotta say im most jealous of the gospel drummer kids. they're amazing. i know i lose count of where the 1 is when i hear them do the triplet fills and i just theow up both my hands. this is a great way to break it down and get a good start. there's a few guys i live on youtube and rob is definitely one of my top faves. i really dig that he doesnt go on to long about things,is calm and gets to the giat of it. thanks bro keep on
Great video bro. Honestly, I've been trying to figure this out for years and you just made it so simple. Thanks for shattering my glass ceiling. Time to practice now.
Great video with easy to understand explanation. Thank you so much.
awesome rob! your tips are a lot helpful on helping me "feel the beat". no books or methods can teach that. thanks!
Great, simple and to the point explanation of the ''Gospel style''!! Bravo!
Hey Rob, once I discovered where to play the hihat, especially when you start playing accents, it all became clear! Awesome stuff, Rob, and thanks a LOT! Greetings from Brussels, Belgium
I love your channel man. I keep watching your back catalog
Thanks for not just giving us the quick "how to play a nasty lick in under 30 seconds video" and instead taking the time to really thoroughly explain the concept!
If you notice on this video, which he explains in 15 minutes what I have been trying to learn for the last 15 years , is that he kind of stresses the word TASTEFULLY! Lol! Iv'e seen those young guys drop sticks, miss the one, freeze etc. playing at 100 mph. Yes I am one of the OG's . I choose not to hate on fast chops though and embrace them. I'm just gonna go one step slightly ahead of tasteful and maybe play using 16 ths. Love You Rob! you are a God send for a lot of us out here!
Thank you, this is probably one of the more understandable videos on this kind of drumming. Great job, great drumming too.
what a great teacher!
Man, YOU ARE A BLESSING!
Thank you for breaking this down! Excellent tutorial!
Thank you Rob Great lesson! I will apply it this weekend!
Man my drumming life is a lot more simple .........thanks to you!!
Excellent teaching style!
hey brother thank you very much!been looking for this kind of explanation for the triplet.thx.
Thank for very much for this lesson Rob very helpful. Drum fill mystery solved!
Awesome. Boiled it down to the essentials. Great explanation and playing!
This is awesome. Thank you Rob
this lesson is very useful! thanks, man!
Good simple breakdown of this. Thanks for this Rob! Nice to see a new vid from ya;)
Thanks men. You're amazing..!
Really nice dude good explanation especially for beginners keep it up blessings
Very nice lesson man, thank you
Simplest explanation I have seen to date! #salute
awesome lesson man!!!
Great Drummer as I always said and great Drum teacher, thanks Rob :-) I got to take my courage and make a video I owe you : about the beat down brown with the six stroke roll, that u broke down for us man :-) I got it but I never made a vid of it ;-)
Thanks brotha no one has ever broken it down to me like that before. I will be able to create my own fills instead of spending weeks learning others drummers fills.
I subscribed! Great vids & tips! Hope to see more vids soon
Now what's a simple Drum Solo Beat Groove from the Rock classic 80's.
Thank you ! answered my prayers haha.
Thanks Rob.
Thanking God for this opportunity to learn from this jewel.
thank you , great lesson man!!
This is awesome mate!!
Thanks for the tips holmes!
This my good sir is something ive been working on loads before, I just didn't do the third step of it!
awesome insight!
hey rob the ted reed syncopation book has a triplet section i am going to start with the triplets in that book it has many combinations of accents thanks
yarddriver That's a good source, man. Have fun with it. :)
Then the same concept to 32nds. The bass drum involvement is key!
Nice tutorial! Regard from Serbia :)
Mr rob can you please make video on odd times like 7/8 5/4. How to get on those times.
well explained, that´s it!!
Mr. Brown, I really enjoyed the video. As someone who just started playing drums again, this information is really useful to me. I just became a subscriber. Do you have videos on building confidence and authority when playing?
Thanks for your time.
Thank you very much!!!
Yes! very cool but i think you should have played a couple examples of the fills VERY SLOWLY to give us a better idea... Also when you are adding bass drum hits within a fill, are they played in between a snare or tom hit or is the bass drum hit played at the exact time you are hitting a tom or snare..? Id appreciate an answer. thank you
Thanks a lot!
Can you chart it out. I like to you see what you're playing.
How do you know when and how to involve the kick drum, how to place it?
Thanks Rob
Nice Video man !! u use triplets and paradiddle for this solo ?
awesome
Thank
you
I haven't been able to figure out how the single paradiddle works well for applying triplets around the kit because it's a 4 note grouping instead of 3. Can anyone help with this?
Good question. Subscribe to my channel if you haven't already, man. I'll do a quick video on that for you.
Rob Brown Done! Thanks a lot Mr Beatdown!
Rob Brown hey rob brown same problem with eternallyminded7 how is that?
eternallyminded7 some of the coolest stuff i seen in a book regarding paradiddles played in triplets was in the david garabaldi book future sounds, Now I aint going to pretend like I can rip it up like this gentlemen, but any 4 note style grouping can be felt in 3 as with any 3 note grouping felt in 4. play RLRR LRLL but count in triplets, it will take 3 times to come around before it resolves, then work through all the others the same way. Not sure if that helps
Three paradidles equal a measure of triplets. It's hard you have to play paradidles but count triplets out of them. For example the first beat will be rlrr and will be counted 1 trip let 2. Then the next paradidle starts the on the second triplet partial. So the next beat would lrll and counted trip let 3 trip. Then next one rlrr and counted let 4 trip let.... It takes three paradidles only to make one measure of triplets. Because there is 12 triplets in a measure and 12 notes in 3 paradidles. Hope this helps at all. Play slow and count it until eventually u feel it
When do you start implementing the bass drum in?
What is that crash near the ride ? I love the sound of it! Is it some effect crash perhaps ?
That's a 20" Sabian O-Zone Ride.
Rob Brown Nice , great video by the way ;)
Your great at cutting the bs Rob, appreciate your vid's
Rob Crawford i been screaming "get to the point" in my head so many times watching videos. It's amazing how ppl talk atound a point they're trying to make. I guess it's something not everyone learns well enough.
thanks, very much
perfect !
I didn't even know how to do triplets i had to go back and look how to play triplets i got The triplets down now. Then i went back to your video
"It Aint Nothing But A Triplet…..Thats It" lol
great explanation! I've been in need of this but how do you keep the momentum for such a long fill and how can you not get lost in your own fill?
+Natan Gonzalez There's a video on my channel called 'How To Improve Your Speed Around The Drums'. The exercises there will help build up your improvisation & endurance.
+Rob “Beatdown” Brown alright thanks!
The hardest thing for me is adding the bass drum with the accents. I wish I could have a lesson on that
This is a great lesson. The problem i have is i lose the "1" easily when i'm playing and lose my place. Any tips on how to be able to play over the bar line without losing my place?
The hardest part about jumping over bar lines is feeling the 1/4 note pulse while playing accents. One good exercise is to just turn on a 1/4 note click and play a single paradiddle, but start it on a different 16th note subdivision in the bar. Do all three...first on the 'E', then on the 'AND' and on the 'AH'. You're basically taking a four beat phrase and shifting it around the bar. Practice pad first, then take it to the kit.
Rob Brown Thanks I will definitely try that. Also I can try playing a paradiddle as a triplet. The accents throw me off sometimes.
+Punk Drum Covers Get a metronome that counts. You'll be amazed and can then coordinate your patterns to land where you want.
What’s a triple and assent?
Hey question I'm pretty advanced drummer can do chops and Latin beats but I do a lot of single strokes my problem all these years is I can't do doubles stroke rolls on my left I tried practicing it in my head to capture the sound but it doesn't come out smooth my left had won't get it any tips
practice, practice practice.
watch all the videos you can on it.
Here are some rudiments I practiced to get my left hand to a good level for double stroke (start slow).
R L L - R L L - R L L - R L R - L R R - L R R - L R R - L R L
(Repeat)
Alternating six stroke roll (Counted as 16th notes)
R L L R - R L R L - L R R L - R L L R - L R R L - L R L R - R L L R - L R R L
(Repeat)
These alternating exercises force your left hand to pull off the complex stuff the right hand is usually doing.
And use a metronome to practice them.
Is that the Yamaha phx? Beautiful kit. How do u like it compared to other high end kits?
Larry Tate PHX with a 14x5.5 Sensitive Series snare, yea. I'm normally the first one to say that drums are drums, for the most part. Put a blindfold on me and I couldn't tell you the difference between a birch, maple, mahogany, bubinga or whatever shell. And don't really care. When a kit is tuned well, it's tuned well and any well tuned kit sounds great. HOWEVER...The first time played a PHX kit, I immediately noticed it was clearly the tightest, punchiest, fullest, sounding kit I've ever heard. Then I asked a friend to play my kit while I stood in front of it, and learned it was also the loudest. Given the design and precision, performance and the fact that not a single shell touches a factory line, I'd say PHX is the Bugatti of drum kits.
Nice! Yeah I love Yamaha. I have a Yamaha maple absolute nouveau kit. Sounds rly good.
Rob Brown I'm ordering a PHX kit and would love to know if you're using a 22x18 or a 22x16. Whatever it is, it sounds great.
That's an 22x18 with an Evans EMAD Heavyweight on the batter side, and it's empty. I strongly recommend using a head with some sort of provided muffling on it so you can allow it to completely breathe on it's own. PHX kicks are the tightest on the planet and happiest with nothing in 'em.
Thanks a lot! I agree about using an EMAD. That's the feel I'm used to anyway on my current bass drum (which is also 22x18). Before going with the 22x18, did you try a PHX 22x16 and decide it was missing something? Last question, I promise.
gr8 foundation
What Drumheads do u use on ur drums ?
+Tatianna Carter On this kit, Evans G14 clear on the toms, Evans Heavyweight on the snare and Heavyweight EMAD on the kick.
#Salute
Time?!?!
Rob, why is it a gospel fill? Matthew Mark Luke and John ever play drums like that.
In the old days we used to call it over playing.
I'm just kidding. I understand.
Can you play lil bit slowly dude? Hah?
Gospel chops .......hmmmmm....... To me it just sounds like massive overplaying and doesn't support the music.